The Balcony Is Open
Sam:
That time again young sir. While we wait to find the energy to dig out our cars, I have something I'd like to discuss. Last week, our friends Bob and John from the Fifth Feather joined Chris Block on his Third Man In radio show. While it would seem a total waste to have that much handsomeness on the radio, it did make for some excellent Hawks discussion. There was one point that John brought up that I found intriguing and wrote about on NBC but I think could merit further discussion. It was John's contention that Stan Bowman is in over his head as GM.
The evidence is there. There's the filling of the 50-man roster to the brim, as well as hitting the veteran limit in Rockford so that Nick Boynton is still part of our lives. There's the promotion of Nick Leddy who clearly isn't ready, as well as the yanking of Brandon Pirri out of college when he clearly is not a pro player. There's the constant Rockford shuffle, which only seems to be a tool to prove how throbbing his brain is.
We don't have much to judge Stan on, really. He had the great summer purge, and just getting Jeremy Morin out of it was probably more than we could have hoped (though I still think if Stalberg were properly coached the Hawks could be getting more out of him). He's only made one in-season move, that was the acquisition of Leddy and Kim Johnsson and it's hardly Stan's fault that Johnsson's brain wasn't up to the task. He re-signed Daydream Nation and Keith, but I still contend that was done in far too much haste at a slightly too high number, but we don't know what pressure he was under from those who market this team with Toews and Kane as the face. Look at how much more deliberate things are going with Seabrook, not quite the face that the other two are. This team has needed a move for a while for a jump, and Stan has tied his hands to make one. Jamie Langenbrunner cost a third round pick, wouldn't he look good?
So I turn it to you, Mr. McClure, is Stan over his head?
McClure:
While I don't think he's necessarily in over his head, he's certainly wading waist deep through it, to make yet another timely reference to the absurd amount of snow we've received in the last 24 hours. Yes, that he got the return he did during the summer while everyone under the sun knew he had to unload salary is commendable, but there have been missteps. That John Scott was given a contract on a team whose style is about as antithetical to what Scott brings is a severe knock against Bowman, though it wouldn't surprise me if Quenneville's input was heavily taken into consideration for that one. Between that move, retaining Nick Boynton and Jassen Cullimore, and prematurely keeping Leddy on the roster, Bowman realistically could have still had Brent Sopel on the third pairing with Jordan Hendry. Sure it's revisionist history, but it could have provided some stability to a slot on the team that's been in a constant state of flux since opening night.
Stan has obviously gone for quantity over quality, maxing out the allowable contracts on a roster chock full of at-or-near league minimum, but let's not forget that this situation is also exacerbated by the over $4 million in bonuses currently counting against the cap, in the last year of Kane and Toews' entry level contracts. We've gone over numerous times what that additional space could have provided, but the fact of the matter is that it exacerbated what was already going to be a very dicey situation for Stan.
As you stated above, a move or two could have been made to jump start the team, and having cited Langenbrunner, there are bargains to be had out there, but Bowman's been hamstrung. It will be interested to see what, if anything he's able to pull off as the deadline approaches. I think that this deadline will start to give more of an indication of whether or not Stan can pull himself and the team out of it, or whether he's going to get submerged. The Hawks clearly have needs and are dry humping the cap, so if he can get a contributor under those circumstances it would seem to be a step in the right direction for the future, especially with that $4 mildo coming off the books. These next few weeks should be paid close attention to as a result.
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Stan Bowman has been good.
Tomas Kopecky has great.
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Feb 2, 2011 3:06 PM CST reply actions
Has great what?
HAS GREAT WHAT?!
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-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Feb 2, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Bob, I think the cabin fever is getting to you.
Someone dig Bob out of house, which I have to assume is covered in snow, because he’s going insane.
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
The jury is still out, but the odds aren't in Bowman's favor
Successfully building a Stanley Cup champion isn’t an achievement to be taken lightly. What Tallon was able to do will always be the standard for Bowman and odds are he will fall short. Even if the Hawks win again this year, most of the GM credit will have to go to Tallon, unless someone Bowman picked up like Stalberg, Leddy or Scott somehow manages to be the hero during the playoffs. We learned after the Bears fired Jerry Vanisi that you don’t mess with a good GM, especially since we’ve yet to hear a good reason why Tallon was fired other than corporate BS (lack of communication and messing up paperwork). This is a professional hockey team not an HR department where you ding good employees on their performance review with BS like “lack of communication” to keep their raises down. I personally think the real person we should be asking questions about is not Bowman, but McDonough. What has he contributed to the hockey side? Anything?
I think the proof is on the ledger as to why Tallon was releived of his duties
$3.5 million dollar per year contracts for everyone!
Second City Hockey
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
True, but his lack of foresight led to what we're seeing now
And Tallon overpaid for unproven potential. And he could have been more creative with Campbell and Huet’s contracts.
Second City Hockey
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
Only God has that kind of foresight
That’s an unrealistic expectation for someone. Like I said, he rolled the dice and won the bet. Game over. You’re asking for him to not only be an excellent GM and win the Stanley Cup, but to also be absolutely flawless. I’m glad you’re not my boss.
Also
It got Steeger a dusty, moist Audi R8 in Toronto
by VerStig on Feb 2, 2011 3:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Pimpin' sure is great ....

… in an R8!
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February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
Weather looks a lot better in Toronto than here.
"Yet you skate like you think wearing it is enough."
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
The weather outside in Ontario is frightful (40 cm of snow)...
Holy Christ I seen what kind of weather you guys were getting in Chicago on the news … wow! Hurricane winds with snow?
I’m sure our boys will be happy to land in Vancouver very soon.
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February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
Tallon went all in -- and won the bet
You can criticize his spending too much money, but that’s Monday morning quarterbacking at its worst. We’ll never know if he could have won without any of those signees — Bolland, Versteeg, Campbell, etc. If he would have let one of those guys walk, it could have been the difference between winning and losing. And if money is the reason he got fired, then we need to fire McDonough. Because he punished winning behavior, and that’s the worst thing a manager can do.
Re: Tallon
You do make some strong points but have you ever considered that if it was up to Dale, Denis Savard would still be the head coach? Do you think we still win the Cup? Probably the biggest factor in winning the Stanley Cup was the hire of Joel Quenneville. Eventhough I’m not his biggest fan, his puck possession system and creating an uptempo game was ultimately the change that was needed in order to not only get into the playoffs but succeed when they got there.
And who’s decision was that? Do you think it was wrong for McDonough to hire Scotty Bowman as the team’s head advisor? Without Scotty, there’s no Q.
This franchise has made many correct decisions since Dale’s departure. We’ll always be indebted to Dale for all the work he put into this but he was too close and personal with the players to do his job correctly. He’ll always be great at assessing talent, just not managing a team in a cap era.
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February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
Good points
If it’s true that hiring Q was Scotty’s influence over Dale’s objections, and if Scotty’s hiring was McD’s doing.
But I will say that assessing talent is about 10 times as important than managing a budget. We need a hockey person as GM, not an accountant, to win Stanley Cups. I’m not sure that Stan will ever vindicate himself as more than an accountant. I hope he does.
I’m not so sure I agree with your statement that Stan is nothing more than an accountant.
Don’t think for one second that as an assistant to the GM that Stan didn’t have a heavy influence on the talent that came in here through the draft and trades. Ultimately, it was Dale’s decision whether to pick or act upon as he was the GM.
I don’t believe for a second that Stan was a statue and did nothing but figure numbers while Dale was here.
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February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
Sounds like somebody didn't get their raise
funny how under-performing employees always think they’re the best employees. My best employees usually tell me what they feel they could be doing better before they tell me the good they do.
Call in the next deaf end ant!
It was both
hairhelmet is right – the people who are always looking to blame someone else for their trouble, usually can’t accept that their poor reviews are actually their own fault.
And HR departments are far more likely to simply administer pay decisions from the managers than actually make decisions about what employees should be paid. Management decides that.
Dont kid yourself
I’ve seen it and been through it myself. There are too many times where the most productive workers got crapped on while lazy kiss asses got the fat raises. Hell, you even said it yourself, “my best employees always tell me what they could do better”. Please. That’s ass kissing 101.
"What is icing?"
"Well, uh... icing appen when uh the puck come down... bang, you know, before the other guys, nobody there, you know. My arm go comme ça then the game stop then start up."
by anActiveStick on Feb 3, 2011 5:22 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
it certainly could be ass kissing
but it’s also possible (and it’s been my experience) that some people really are like that, and they tend to be awesome workers and people, much better than the clever sods who focus on the inevitable instances of “life is unfair”.
we are the people our parents warned us about
What has [McDonough] contributed to the hockey side? Anything?
He wasn’t brought in for his hockey mind. He was brought in for his marketing genius. He kept seats at Wrigley filled for crappy teams, and he was tasked with doing the same for the Hawks (although the Hawks made it easier for him by doing the opposite of being the Cubs). From what I know (near nothing), he has nothing to do with scouting, player development, roster decisions, etc.
If you really think about it, this comment was actually hockey-related.
He inserted himself into the hockey side by firing Tallon
Therefore, he is now accountable for the hockey side.
he may be over his head
but then again what first time GM’s wouldn’t be under these circumstances? There is some head scratching (john scott) pulling all our prospects into rockford etc. but at least we got the core locked in..I know it’s not saying much currently, but I’d say he’s doing all right, all things considered.
when did you run into will smith!?
I admit I know nothing
But I say there’s a pretty good chance that Scotty is still calling the major shots with Stan doing all of the execution. And if not “calling”, let’s just say “strongly opining”.
I think Scotty gives his opinion when Stan asks for it, but ultimately Stan is the man in charge of the general managing of this team.
Scotty probably plays a larger role in the coaching department as that’s his passion, add to that, Q is a coach that he can relate to and exchange ideas with.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 NFC Champion Green Bay Packers.
February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
Scotty is in Tampa
watching hockey games at any venue he can, any league. I myself doubt he has much of anything to do with daily business in Chicago … Q, Stan, McD or otherwise. I think he’s available to anyone who wants to talk, but there’s no way he’s calling the shots anywhere anymore, or even directing them.
But hawkey, I too admit the same as you.
www.mjt.org
Scotty can be in Tampa
and have a say in big decisions. I’m not talking about when to send Leddy back to Rockford or even to have Purri or Morin where they are or whatever. I’m talking about letting Niemi walk, and matching Jelly etc etc.
So guys when do we get our next podcast?
You’re snowed in – nothing better to do than drink and talk Hawks. Bring it on!
Cheering on the Blackhawks long before "Remember the Roar" in 1993 and beyond "One Goal" which was achieved in 2010.
We're efforting more studio time at present.
Second City Hockey
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
too soon to tell
for good or ill, Stan’s still playing a largely-dealt hand.
what’s gonna hurt is seein’ teams with space add that extra gear down the stretch. Mebbe Stan coulda (could still?) marshalled the roster a wee bit better to squeeze out 1-2 mildo to at least play in the shallow end of this pool.
as it is, the Hawks’ extra gear will have to come from within.
we are the people our parents warned us about
I don't get the question.
Replacements have on average played well. Hasn’t the party line on this site that the stars on this team haven’t been starry enough? Same stars as last season.
"Yet you skate like you think wearing it is enough."
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
This
I mean, Boynton has been offensively bad at times, and Scott is pointless, but neither are the reason the team is underachieving.
I don’t get calling out Stan when the consensus all season has been that the star players haven’t carried this team. Langenbrunner or a slight upgrade on the 3rd pairing would be nice, but it’s not the crux of the problem.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Feb 2, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
Yup.
And I don’t get the man-love over Langenbrunner, he’s a career 15-20 goal scorer that has only 5 to date. He’s far from the fixing any of our current problems as he’s another winger (something the ‘Hawks don’t need right now).
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February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
The Third D pairing has been a major frustration.
Boyton has had a major drop off in his play vs last year. I don’t get why Hendrey was in the dog house so long. He at least has some upside and has speed. Cullimore is a smart player who ought to now be coaching instead. 37 and in the AHL ought to be a wake up call. Scott ought to see the ice only when the other team needs a beat down. I hear the feedback on Leddy, but I think that he ought to allowed the benefit of 8-10 minutes of development. He needs to be ready to replace Campbell in 3 years. If we are going to the wire for a rent a player, I’d like Bryan McCabe’s toughness and experience, but I heard that he will likely cost $1MM for the balance of the year. I don’t think that’ll fir , but I lost track of the cap situation on the way to Rockford.
I dont think this team's problem is the 3rd pairing
It’s more important for us for the 1st/2nd pairing to play like they are capable of, and for our best players to consistently play like our best players. If those things happen, you can have Scott and Edzo on the 3rd pairing and we would still be winning games.
If you really think about it, this comment was actually hockey-related.
Regarding Tallon
Remember Pulford drafted: Seabrook, Crawford, Buff, Bolland, Bickell, Dowell, Brouwer, Barker… Other than Barker really pretty impressive.
Tallon drafted: Skille, Kane, Toews and Hammer.
Picking hockey talent doesn’t seem very cut and dry unless you find a very very special player. Other than that you’re drafting athletes and hoping they have more than a handful of brain cells.
I think Bowman is hoping things work out so he can buy what he needs to in the off season and get out of the first round in the playoffs this year, be competitive as it were. Cant judge any of his picks yet but Morin and Leddy look like they will be legit NHL’ers so we will see.
Just no more Boynton. Please. If they need a slow guy who can beat ass at least Exelby can beat ass.
who brought Keith here?
My hockey-related comment: Thowing an octopus on the ice is the dumbest meme in professional sports. I'd rather throw waffles.
by puppetmasterp on Feb 2, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
Mike Smith.
And I believe it was he who also drafted Seabrook and Buff. But I could be misremembering.
Nope, it was Pulford.
But I think all the credit deserves to go to Tallon for that one. At the time (and I’m probably wrong on this) Pulford had the title but Dale had all the responsibilities with Pulford showing him some of the in-and-outs of the business side of things (like how to trade any player daring to ask for salary arbitration).
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 NFC Champion Green Bay Packers.
February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
You're saying Pulford drafted Keith?
Or the other two? I’m pretty certain Smith was the GM who chose Keith. My recollection is that Tallon was the one who convinced Smith to take him but Smith was GM when the Hawks drafted Keith.
Back in those days Pully could have been pulling the strings but I remember Smith drafting Keith (and that being one of the few good moves Smithov made).
Duncan Keith 54th overall in the 2002 draft
HERE’S THE DRAFT IN IT’S ENTIRETY.
Smith wasn’t fired until October 2003. Drafting Keith was probably his only good move.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 NFC Champion Green Bay Packers.
February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
Mike Smith
Was here 3-years too long.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 NFC Champion Green Bay Packers.
February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
I'm honestly ok with the job Bowman is doing
Maybe he’s not as good of a talent evaluator as Tallon, but Tallon did make some misjudgements too. You can say it was Tallon’s team that won the Stanley Cup playoffs by the trades he made and the players he drafted, but you can’t deny that the Hawks shitty standings allowed him to draft the cream of the crop year after year without having to pay top players top money.
I can’t blame Bowman for the fact that last year’s team was ridiculously talented and had the best possible timing, and I acknowledge that each GM doesn’t operate in a bubble. It’s like the presidency…legislation snowballs to the point that it’s like “this wouldn’t have happened if this other thing didn’t happen” and so forth.
As far as I’m concerned Bowman hasn’t done something so egregious for me to say he’s doing a poor job, and I think I need at least another season to form any kind of judgement
with Bowman And Q regarding Scott
He’s a cheap mistake and they know that now. They finally learned after playing the Blues last time. He was in and did nothing. No one was scared of him.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
In fairness to Scott...
he’s like Matt Walker in that he’s big and slow and is better served as a blueliner. Unfortunately, the ’Hawks have a plethora of defencemen on the current roster so he serves of no use. To put him out there as a forward is pointless and if anything he looks awkward playing there.
Solution: WAIVER WIRE
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February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
on Leddy:
I’m wondering if it really was too soon to bring him up. He isnt awful: and is a step up from Fuckin’ Boyton. I guess I’m wondering how other Hawks performed in their first seasons in the big leagues. Also wondering on their timelines. Specifically I’d like to look at Keith and Biscuit. Toews and Kaner are wingers, but their career paths seem to be similar to Leddy’s. Any thoughts?
"I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country." Hale 1776
Keith was, to be kind, rough when he first started in the NHL.
You could tell something was there. I mean, the kid was flat-out fast and he had an incredible work ethic. But he had to work hard on the defensive side of his game to get to where he is today (er, I guess, more to where he was last season). He was all over the place in his first NHL season, moreso than Leddy is IMO. And he didn’t have anybody giving him close to the guidance Leddy has in Keith, Seabs, Campbell, and Hammer.
I don’t think it was a horrible idea to bring up Leddy this season but I always viewed the Hawks’ bringing up Keith and Seabs when they did as an aberration stemming from the fact that the Hawks totally sucked and could afford to train them on the fly. I honestly didn’t think they would bring up Leddy full-time this season. Again, not saying it’s a bad move — just that it’s surprising.
I could be wrong, but i thought that Toews and Kaner came in basically nhl ready, which is rare. I think leddy could use more seasoning, but don’t think he’s been horrible.
They were also given the luxury of quality minutes on a floundering franchise desperate for a rebirth.
Leddy is coming onto a team that just won the Stanley Cup last season and is looking for someone to play 10-12 minutes or less a night. Hence, due to the lack of ice-time and pressure to make minimal mistakes his growth is being stunted right now.
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February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
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February is the month of love; I'd love to have a hug, a kiss, a Super Bowl, and a 'Hawks winning streak.
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by stacie7 on Feb 2, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
he didn't fall because of the punch
he pulled his groin while taking off his mask
If you really think about it, this comment was actually hockey-related.
by LanceFister3 on Feb 2, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
was just signing on to post this
love me some goalie fights
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
Todd Bertuzzi is still an asshole, Sean Avery is still a douchebag, and Pierre McGuire is still the creepiest son of a bitch on the planet
by BigCSouthside on Feb 2, 2011 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
BRENT "THE ONE-PUNCH MACHINE GUN" JOHNSON!!!
Seriously tho:
How much does playing Hockey for Staten Island suck?
Or maybe:
What a waste of talent is John Tavares with the NYI??
OT – hope you all are out from the tundra.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
for the record
Long Island =/= Staten Island
If you really think about it, this comment was actually hockey-related.
by LanceFister3 on Feb 2, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
haha
I can’t take credit for that, I pulled it off Twitter
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
NM's Chief Lady Pleaser. Just ask eightyseven.
but I got it from you
so by the trickle down effect……..
I'm polymerized tree sap and you're an inorganic adhesive, so whatever verbal projectile you launch in my direction is reflected off of me, returns to its original trajectory and adheres to you.
I love Sopel...
but realistically, he’s not much of an upgrade over Boynton.
Boynton is also $1.8 million cheaper than Sopes. That makes Sopel an extremely expensive sand bag.
I see your point
but Sopel played on the PK and took less penalties
(Sopel – 34PIM in 73 games last year, Boynton – 36PIM in 39 games this year)
So Sopel is an upgrade to Boynton. $1.8 million worth of an upgrade? probably not.
If you really think about it, this comment was actually hockey-related.
by LanceFister3 on Feb 2, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
if we trade for him
don’t we only pay half his salary, since we only have him for half a year?
too bad you can’t renegotiate contracts – you know Sopes would totally take a hometown discount, given that his family is still here.
BTW
Buff has been scoreless since January 02 (11 games).
The guys we lost in the off season had a combined 186 points last season. Their replacements are on pace to score a combined 183 points.
A big thing
is what did those people bring to the locker room. Burish, Ladd, Big Buff, Versteeg? They were extremely important to the chemistry and cohesiveness of the team. I know some people here do not like Jesse Rodgers. He did say on ESPN 1000 that the biggest blow to the team was not Buff on ice buy in the locker room. I agree with that statement. Who did Buff hang with at the ASG…The Hawks..i know that know that other thrashers were not there.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
right
but these guys are professionals. While it might suck to no longer play hockey with your bestest buddies who were hilarious and fun in the locker room, they’re still being paid to play with these people. And ultimately, winning builds chemistry.
yea dude
they are paid, and paid well, how many people in real life work with people that suck yet you have to tolerate them and pretend to like them at times so you can have a successful business and keep your job
they should stop being 12 and start playing hockey again, maybe make some new friends and stop floating around in their own zone
No amount of money overcomes whether you like your fellow employees
and, in fact, compensation levels can be especially divisive on a team without chemistry. They were humans long before they were pro athletes. I’ve had work situations that were so enjoyable, productive and fulfilling, the compensation was almost secondary. I imagine the more you like your teammates, the easier it is to get the most out of everyone and thus, to win big shiny prizes.
Call in the next deaf end ant!
If the "star' players played up to thier potential then Scotty is a genius.....
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
bonuses
this article makes it sound like the $4mil bonuses come off the cap in time for the trade deadline. is that true? because it sounds like we could do quite a bit with that.

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