Blood and Whiskey - Stars 5, Hawks 0
by McClure on Mar 17, 2011 10:30 PM CDT
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PrintIf you aren't already hammered due to the day's festivities, the Hawks certainly provided more than enough reason to drink this evening. Whether they thought that magically via the transitive property that because they porked the Sharks on Monday 6-3, and the Sharks turned around and took out their frustrations the following night on the Stars to the same score they'd just be given 2 points, they were already drunk, or just couldn't wait to go and pound some sweet Irish Car Bombs bro, this was far and away the worst effort of the year given the circumstances. It figures that it comes against a team pronounced all but dead on this very website in the preview. This is the most reckless, irresponsible, and embarrassing loss since game 4 against Scum in the 2009 Western Conference finals. There was stupidity abound from the first period on, and despite being absent one Loui Eriksson, the Stars made the Hawks pay at every turn. Time to pass the fuck-you's around.
Observations
- The pinching. Oh sweet baby Jesus, always with the pinching. The first 3 Dallas goals came on odd man breaks, first a breakaway, then a 2 on 1, then a 3 on 2, none of which Corey Crawford had a chance on. Brent Seabrook, who had been playing superior hockey since finally getting the contract situation resolved, was guilty on all 3. That's not to mention the almost-break that Alex Goligoski had during a Hawks power play. I understand the desire to get the defensemen involved in the offensive game and get low, but to take stupid chances in that way is just absurd.
- Does anyone remember Jonathan Toews' name being called tonight? Me either.
- On a similar note, who missed Bryan Bickell?
- Think Corey Crawford's a bit tired?
- Steve Ott - I know he's a huge pain in the ass and all of his extra-curricular activities get the majority of the attention, but goddamn can that guy play.
- Even though Jake Dowell has been a non-factor since about the start of 2011, he still can't give Brandon Seagal that fight, and for little to no reason, particularly with the Hawks bench shortened.
- I'm not going to get too down on Marty Turco for thoroughly dicking the dog on the attempted home run pass that resulted in Jason Williams' goal, because the team needed to generate some offense in anyway possible at that point being down 3-0, but he's got to find a safer angle than the one he chose.
- While Duncan Keith assuredly deserved the stupid fuck penalty he took during the 4-minute power play, how the refs didn't take Ott as well during the ensuing scrum for either a charge or a rough is beyond me. It probably wouldn't have mattered, though.
- Not even the spectators escape my wrath tonight. To the dickwad in the Toews jersey that kept standing up and waving to the camera toward the right hand goal on the TV angle (and I hope you're a reader), do us all a favor and set yourself on fire. At the very least, improve the way all the rest of us look by never attending a game again in Hawks gear, and castrate yourself so that you may not procreate. Thank you.
- Hey, at least the Hawks won 34 of 59 draws, with every Hawk who took one better than 50%.
- After all this, there's no point dwelling on tonight. Yes, the Hawks thoroughly filled their diapers tonight. But had they lost 4-3 it'd still be the same result, and the same amount of points from here on out would be necessary. The only thing left to do is let it go and go out and kick Phoenix in the nuts on Sunday.
- Oh, and get well soon Soupy and Bolls.
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I'm the guy in the Toews jersey!
Look at me!
The fourth dimension will collapse in upon itself, bitch.
theToews jersey guy and the idiots who keep banging on the glass
should never be allowed at games again….ANNOYING !!!
by vitoduhawk84 on Mar 17, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
That guy was an absolute tool. It wasn’t bad enough we had to sit through one of the worst hockey games I have ever seen in my life, but that guy making Hawks fans look like complete retards really drove me crazy.
Disgusting effort.
It’s going to be hard for us to forget about that one even though I know almost everyone in that locker room has already put it past them the second the buzzer sounded.
by dangles we can believe in on Mar 18, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Thankfully I missed this game
I was all exicted to watch but duties call w/ family sometimes. Oh well. Fucking shit all around and get it back agains the yotes
Damn McClure, that was a great summary!
Damn shame it’s all true.
When I wake up tomorrow with a HUGE hangover, hopefully this game was just a bad dream, and there is no nuclear crisis in Japan.
But please, no Unicorns this time!
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
totally agree
this re Turco:
thoroughly dicking the dog on the attempted home run pass
verges on Shakespearean.
After the egg laid last night, this is exactly what SCH needs.
That transitive property thing- so funny, it’s part of why sports are so great. Put down the pencil Poindexter and watch the game.
We like our people!
well when he's right, he's right
WILDCARD BITCHES!
by justforkicks on Mar 17, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
well when he's right, he's right
WILDCARD BITCHES!
by justforkicks on Mar 17, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
you can say that again!
Jersey Standings:
Fake WC Kane: 16-10-2 Home Hjalmarsson: 10-8-6 Away VERSTEEG! 12-7-0
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I was a spectator
But, alas, not the guy in the Toews jersey. I was in the Platinum Club level, like a douchebag, with the rest of the rich pricks. Surrounded by young children so I couldn’t even unleash the profanity at the tip of my tongue.
As painful as it must have been to watch on TV, it was agonizing in person. Two games I’ve attended this year, two losses. Tonight looked like a preseason scrimmage.
I will say this. All of the Dallas fans were super cool, especially to my wife in her future fan t-shirt. The fans in New York were the epitome of classless while the Dallas fans, even in a blowout victory, were the exact opposite. A small consolation I know but I appreciated it nonetheless.
by it'snotsomuchmeasitisroenick on Mar 17, 2011 10:52 PM CDT reply actions
You know...
I went to Chicago to watch the Stars play at the United Center, and found myself saying the exact same thing. Chicago fans reminded me a lot of Stars fans as in we don’t give a shit who you root for, as long as you do it in a way that’s not classless and makes us real hockey fans look like dicks. And just an FYI, Platinum Club is the epitome of douche. The only reason to go up there is to see hot chicks with huge knockers. After that, there isn’t a level at the AAC that is less interested in the action on the ice. I’d recommend either sitting in the lower bowl, or the 300 levels. Avoid Platinum at all costs unless you like sitting with a bunch of pricks that couldn’t give two shits about the game. And trust me, the guys sitting there in their sport coats and jeans, aren’t rich. Credit card millionaires is more like it and don’t represent the Stars fan base as a whole. I’m from Dallas and even I hate those assholes.
"GET YOUR ASS HUNG UP ON NOW YOU IDIOT!"
by bigtill2002 on Mar 17, 2011 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I sit in the Platinum section all the time...
So…….crap.
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 18, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
DOUCHE!!!!!!!
I kid Brandon, you’re the exception to the rule and I know you know what I’m talking about.
"GET YOUR ASS HUNG UP ON NOW YOU IDIOT!"
by bigtill2002 on Mar 18, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I definitely know.
The atmospheres are completely different.
But I enjoy the viewing angle from those seats more than any other.
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 18, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
You being an analyst I completely understand...
But the day I quit sitting in Platinum is the day I was at a game and said to the two guys next to me, “We’re going to a shootout” And one of them looks over to me and asks “Is that like, a big deal?” Swear to God I wanted to throw him over the edge of the balcony.
"GET YOUR ASS HUNG UP ON NOW YOU IDIOT!"
by bigtill2002 on Mar 18, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Hawks fan in Dallas
and I love to see Danny Boy Balis referenced in your tag. God bless the li’l Ticket!
Disciplina Praesidium Civitatis.
My favorite Ticket personality.
The Dark Cloud/Terlingua Comic
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by bigtill2002 on Mar 18, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm actually an acquaintance of Dan Paul's.
He’s truly good people.
Disciplina Praesidium Civitatis.
Seems to be...
Never met the guy but he’s audio gold. Especially the drop that’s my tagline. That entire sequence makes me laugh out loud every time they play it.
"GET YOUR ASS HUNG UP ON NOW YOU IDIOT!"
by bigtill2002 on Mar 18, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
It's genius.
I hope people around big D realize what we have with The Ticket. It is absolutely one of a kind.
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I think they do...
1310 owns in pretty much every time slot and every demographic. The majority of ESPN radio and The Fan are unlistenable save for a couple of shows. Check that, all of ESPN is unlistenable and just a couple of shows on The Fan are ok.
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by bigtill2002 on Mar 18, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
there's a problem with enjoying seeing hot chicks with huge knockers?
half of the marketing to males in the “civilized” world is based, some times exclusively, on hot chicks with huge knockers.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
FYI, I sat in the platinum section because the tix were free
Otherwise I was going to buck up for the lower bowl
by it'snotsomuchmeasitisroenick on Mar 19, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I was cool with the dowell fight...
until I thought about the short bench, I can see what he’s trying to do though, getting the team going. he seems to do that sometimes but it doesn’t seem like the team responds to it.
by joedl42 on Mar 17, 2011 11:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think the only well-timed fight I've seen him engage in
was the one before this one (totally forget which game)… it seemed like Seabs caught some heat from Q for his fight, so I wonder why Dowell would go out so soon and pull one himself.
Ditto.
I suppose it’s the right general idea… the team’s playing like shit, so why not try to spark them.
But with the injury ravaged bench being an issue in this game, it was dumb as rocks.
I think overall, Dowell has decent hockey IQ, but his fights are almost never a good idea. I wish Q would pull him aside and tell him that if he’s solid defensively, chips in on offense, and brings positive energy to the game, he’s not going to be sent to the minors.
by transienthawk on Mar 18, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Just curious about 2 things since I still don't fully understand why some things are called or why they are not:
the hit on Kane where he almost went into the boards headfirst – was that a “legal” hit? I didn’t think he was playing the puck and not sure he knew the guy was coming – if he hadn’t been able to keep his feet, it could have ended very badly. Also, why was Scott tossed? Was it a preemptive strike? And if Ott (as the annoucers said) had his stick up, implying he was going to wack Scott, would that not be a penalty as well?
WILDCARD BITCHES!
I saw a lot of sticks to the face from Stars players
they happened well away from the puck so may not have been seen on TV.
by it'snotsomuchmeasitisroenick on Mar 17, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah i didn't see that
but obviously our guys got a really rough ride tonight, and I was glad to see them mostly uninjured. Glad Sharpie was ok also after he went down, looked like he hit his face into the boards.
WILDCARD BITCHES!
by justforkicks on Mar 17, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Regarding Steve Ott
Checked capgeek out of curiosity….he’s signed for the next 3 seasons at $2.95 mil.
Stars fan here...
Thanks for the Ott comment. Probably one of the most unappreciated players in the league. Every other fan base talks shit about him, but I can think of 29 other teams that would love to have him. He’s a spark plug that plays right on the edge, and puts asses in the seats. And if you’re not wearing the opposition’s sweater, one of the nicest guys in the league. Not a fan in Dallas that has met him, has a negative thing to say about him.
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I love his nickname of "Otter" too.
He kinda looks like one to me. Weasel-y but innocent, all at once.
I’d love for him to be on the ’Hawks. Anyone who says otherwise is nuts in my opinion.
by transienthawk on Mar 18, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
They even sell stuffed otters in a hockey helmet and #29 jerseys....
Seriously, I never even knew what an otter looked like until they started selling those. I bought one for my girlfriend’s daughter. She loves it. They even sell T-shirts with said otter on them. It’s really quite the phenomenon here in Dallas. After the warm up skate, he looks for little kids in either that T-shirt, or an Ott jersey and hands them his stick. He’s good people.
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by bigtill2002 on Mar 18, 2011 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I can think of worse shirts to own than an Otter shirt.
by transienthawk on Mar 18, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Totally...
But an actually animated otter wearing a Stars sweater and helmet? I find it kind of funny.
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by bigtill2002 on Mar 18, 2011 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions
It's almost like he's his own brand.
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by bigtill2002 on Mar 18, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Its a great selling point for kids
and certain people, I’d think.
My mom is a Hawks fan, but I know she’d go crazy over a picture of an otter in hockey gear.
by transienthawk on Mar 18, 2011 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions
True...
Now that I think about it, my girlfriend’s kid can’t go to bed without “Ottie”. He replaced her Elmo at the top of her list of stuffed animals she can’t go to bed without.
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by bigtill2002 on Mar 18, 2011 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Otters are just absurdly cute animals
and tacking hockey gear on is almost unfair.
If the Stars were in an area that actually had otters, they’d have an amazingly marketable product. But the dude’s talent is enough for now.
by transienthawk on Mar 18, 2011 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I just google imaged otters...
They’re effing adorable.
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by bigtill2002 on Mar 18, 2011 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Seriously?
You didn’t know what an otter looked like?
They'll have to pry the cup out of our cold, dead hands
I'm not going to stand here
and listen to you bad mouth the United States of America.
by Scott13 on Mar 18, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
...when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor ...
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
Aslong as he plays against the Hawks
I would love to see him hit by a Mack truck or Fluffy
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Mar 18, 2011 5:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone remember Jonathan Toews’ name being called tonight?
I do! When he was being hit by Stars players.
He definitely
had an off night. Invisible in all the wrong ways. Really, you can say that about all of them.
They are 9-2-2 in their last 13.
They'll have to pry the cup out of our cold, dead hands
and 1-2-2 in their last 5
I like your approach but that 8-gamer? It is now no longer applicable given the total bag of shit we had to watch on one of my favourite days of the year!
Just win the next game...!
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doing us a large right now. 4-0 on the Kings late in the 3rd. All is not lost!
They'll have to pry the cup out of our cold, dead hands
that helps but what's with the 'yotes?
They think their play will keep them out of Winnipeg, that’s gotta be it.
Just win the next game...!
Very concerned about Keith
He’s obviously been hurting (hand) and tonight he had 3 episodes that probably didn’t help him much either; the high stick, the tussle with Ott, and whatever happened that had him in agony on the bench. Whatever was wrong with his hand is probably now worse. Not good.
Other than that, move along. Nothing to see here tonight.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 18, 2011 12:24 AM CDT reply actions
I think when he went to the bench
that one time and just kind of sat there with his head down was him losing his air after taking that shot right in the gut area.
I’m not sure if it was his hand again because when they showed him, he had both hands up on the dasher.
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Ah, that's good to know
I had missed that play and didn’t know what happened but read on twitter comments that he took another puck to the hand. If we were to lose Keith, ya’ll would be wondering who replaced CNS with the raving lunatic. Um, wait a minute…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 18, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions
he's a tough sumbitch
but yes, a couple days on the shelf might do wonders here, not the Hawks are close to being able to even contemplate this now.
what about the 2 on 1? I don’t care what Justin Bourne thinks, you fucking deny the pass there. period.
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I don’t care what Justin Bourne thinks
Nor should anyone.
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That whole column on 2 on 1's was absolutely retarded.
If you are a player in a 1 on 2 scenario and you play either the passer or the extra man at the NHL level the guy you don’t play is going to make you look like a complete asshole and dangle the jock off your goalie into the rafters. Some players are just waiting for your foot to move and the second it does there is a bullet pass right where it was on the other guy’s tape. People figured this shit out over the course of 50 years of competitive hockey and there is a reason you play that pass and stay between the guys.
by dangles we can believe in on Mar 18, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
But godman Bourne said good passes are the exception not the rule, that is why you should take the puck handler.
Are you insinuating Bourne is incorrect and a freaking idiot?
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Mar 18, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
No, its more stating it outright
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
The wrap summed everything up pretty well.
This game was a complete no show for the feather heads, and I’m not too sure there is one player who can say they gave it their all tonight.
Q had better wise up and give Craw a rest for a few games because regardless of what Craw says, he is tired. Give Turcs a few starts with the team playing as well as they did during the streak and he will win us some games also. Plus, maybe Craw will get back his energy and focus for the stretch run. He seems to have his best games when he is unsure weather or not the number 1 job is his. I’m not saying the guy doesn’t try, but he is just totally gassed right now.
Anyway, this game is over, and we still need 2 points from the Yotes on Sunday so it’s time to focus and kick ass. St. Louis helped out tonight with a shutout of their own, and the Oil can gave the Yotes all they could handle until the refs called a bullshit dive on Omark in the final 3 minutes that put Phoenix on the PP, otherwise I think Edm ties that game up.
Oh well, 11 more and all will be revealed. Go Hawks!!
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by McClure on Mar 18, 2011 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I AM NOT NEUROTIC! I'm just worried that I might be.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 18, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
This
castrate yourself so that you may not procreate.
I have this very thought at least ten times a day thanks to people like the Toews jersey guy, glass bangers and the overwhelming number of complete morons one encounters on a daily basis.
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
glass banging for me is fine if its a hit right there in front of them
But standing up (think David Puddy in that piece of shit Devils jersey) continuously then turning around for a photo-op should be punished by a public beating using all that games broken PoS composite sticks.
Just win the next game...!
Some places don't allow the glass banging at all
Before I sat down in the front row in Colorado we were given all the rules and glass banging was the number one no-no. Large Marge gave you the evil eye if she even thought you were going to do it. They kicked people out for breaking the rule.
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When puss-bag political correctness goes too far
That’s an example. Can’t show expression of the game. Guess they think Denver-ites would be offended.
Now if it blocks others’ views or involves turning to the camera that douche-bag McClure cites then a thorough ass beating – my personal preference is with a thatch rake – is in order.
Just win the next game...!
I love this rule.
It should be instituted league wide.
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
You know why?
Cuz of douche’s like the one we’re all talking about. They fuck it up for everyone. And hence the rule you cite.
Years ago many years ago, when United Center were two totally unconnected words, many folks did that at Chicago Stadium, myself included. But see no one was turning around for a photo-op back then. Mostly because home games were not televised but then again, cell phones were either not invented yet or when they came out, they were the famous “brick”.
If there was a big hit or a fight RIGHT in front, those people jumped up and pounded the glass. No turning around to wave or crap like that.
Just win the next game...!
what i fear
the two plagues yet to beset the Blackhawks this season: the offensive drought and the goalie meltdown.
mebbe the Hawks took care of both of these with one giant horse pill last night.
We like our people!
do you mean in one game?
or for the season? if you meant in one game i see what you’re saying but if you meant for the season, I could argue that Turco did meltdown and we recovered nicely with Crawford.
I don’t have the #‘s to prove it in fron mof me bu i recall earlier in the season(2010) them going thru an offensive drought. They’ve just been firing on all cylinders now.
Nothing here is fucked….. yet
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No more excuses
Yeah, they were down some key guys last evening, but welcome to the big leagues. I think they actually owned most of that first period, though – seemed like they spent a hell of a lot of time in the opponent’s end. Don’t know what happened after that breakaway goal near the end, though. And for the love of God I wish they’d stop firing shots from the perimeter all the time – what’s happend to their hallowed cycle? How many times must we watch shots banging off shin guards and straying outside of the blue line?
Bad game from Toews
Equals no cycling. He’s the foot that turns the pedal, or something like that.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 18, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I hit the daily double!
A reply fail within a spelling correction.
WOO HOO! What do I win?
(p.s. the spelling correction goes with my comment immediately below.)
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
Similar words had barely finished leaving Pat & Edzo's mouths
when Ott got his breakaway score.
seemed like they spent a hell of a lot of time in the opponent’s end
It was the kiss of death. The game was a complete deaht spiral for the Hawks after this little bit of bad karma.
Also, many of those shots that bang off defenders shins and bounce out past the blue line become odd man breaks the other way. For the love of God, if you don’t have a clear line of sight to the goal stop trying to force it through. Just get it down low. Our forwards are good enough to get after it and take it back – usually.
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
Thoughts?
On Pat Foley’s verbal Beatdown of the team with the exception of the Slovaks for not taking care of the training staff. He obviously would have more inside knowledge about it than most of us, But it kinda seemed unwarranted and the timing odd too.
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What?
What was said? I must have missed this one.
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Basically
it was Kudos to the Slovaks for taking out the training staff and Equip managers for their work all year. Then it was a rant about how they don’t get paid much, they do it for the love of the game. They work tirelessely. In the old days the players always took them out for a dinner, thank you night.
I’m not saying the training staff doesn’t deserve it but the timing was odd and who knows if anything was planned for them or not. He could have been on his 3rd double of Jameson already for all i know as he was griping earlier in the game that he was going to get a late start on celebrating St. Pats
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I agree,
I thought it was just weird. The guys are trying to make the playoffs, the Hawks organization takes everybody everywhere, yet somehow the players are selfish because they didn’t take the training staff out for dinner? And you’re right that the timing of the comment was odd at that point in the game.
Honestly, all I could think was that he wanted the team to take him and Eddie and Wiedeman and Troy out for a big dinner and tell them how great they are.
Pat Foley
Irish+St Patricks Day+Booze=odd timed and generally incoherent emotional rants about insignificant things
mystery solved.
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by BigCSouthside on Mar 18, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
right on it
he made mention earlier that he was going to get a late jump on St Pats day becasue of the game. I think he was just pissed he had to be there for the drubbing and missing out on his personal Holiday, not that every day isn’t a drinking day for Pat
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Now I'm trying to figure out
why it was ever a mystery to me! That’s the perfect equation for inanity.
BCS has it dead.nuts.on
Right after Foley went on that marginal rant, I moseyed over to the tub to grab another Guinness – and yes BCS it ALWAYS goes in the proper “jar”.
Just win the next game...!
Wow, we got horsed
kinda glad I missed most of this one. I did learn that one of my friends married co-workers is a total fucking slut while on business trips, so, Happy St Patrick’s Day? And in what kind of sick, fucked up world is it OK to put Killians in a nice glass and Guinness in a plastic cup, cuz thats what the bar was doing last night. Never let co-workers pick the bar ever again…
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And I don't think Sam should be allowed to make bold predictions anymore
I like you Sam, but seriously. Pronounce the Hawks dead, and Toews decides to cock slap everyone into submission and the Hawks are back in it. Say Big D needs to be put to the sword, and we get fisted with no lube. Lets go to Vegas so I can just bet on the exact opposite of what you say. I’m kidding, keep up the good work, this wrap is a prime example of the exceptional writing on this site.(<—-not sarcasm)
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by BigCSouthside on Mar 18, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone who does this
put Killians in a nice glass and Guinness in a plastic cup
should have their cock cut off with a dirty and dull garden tool.
Any video of that slutty biz bitch?
Just win the next game...!
I know, right?
I wanted to take a flamethrower to the place, and they had a bag piper, who I swear the only tune he knew was “Scotland the Brave”. How fucking Irish is that? and I forgot the iPhone had a video feature now.
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by BigCSouthside on Mar 18, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I wanted to take a flamethrower to the place
If only you were the man you were five years ago. Too old, too tired, too fucking blind.Hoo-ah!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 18, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Pacino for the win!
And Harry, Jimmy, Trent, wherever you are out there, FUCK YOU TOO!
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Not even the spectators escape my wrath tonight. To the dickwad in the Toews jersey that kept standing up and waving to the camera toward the right hand goal on the TV angle (and I hope you’re a reader), do us all a favor and set yourself on fire. At the very least, improve the way all the rest of us look by never attending a game again in Hawks gear, and castrate yourself so that you may not procreate. Thank you.
You want incineration and castration?! Here’s hoping he turns into a Darwin candidate. Totally agree. See what happens when morons are allowed out of their rubber-rooms.
Gotta love Tazer’s comment: Crap the bed. That sums it up.
Just win the next game...!
Crawford is not too tired
for the last couple weeks this blog keeps saying that Crawford is too tired and i want to call bull$hit!
He is our legitimate #1 goalie, Q gave both tenders a chance earlier in the year and Craw clearly won the job as Turco was far and away the worst of the two. And that is what you have to do in these times, ride your number 1, for goodness sakes he just had a huge winning streak over the last month. Yes he got worked last night but the first 3 goals were not his fault as they were all odd man rushes and you can’t blame a goalie for a 2 on 1.
Now i am going to throw a stat out there and by no means am i comparing Craw to these guys but it just goes to show how many games a #1 goalie should play when he is leaps and bounds better than the #2:
70 + games played per season:
Brodeur: 12 of 17
Lundqvist: 4 of 5
Kiprusoff: 5 of 5
again not saying Craw is anywhere close to these guys but goes to show that NHL goalies can handle the work load
Maybe, maybe not
but he’s not always thinking clearly and that could be an overall fatigue thing setting in. Not saying it is but could be.
Like when he started out of the net, thought twice and then was out of position on that shot. Maybe a less fatigued Corey doesn’t do that. Maybe not. But to me at least it seems like he’s second-guessing himself from time to time.
Far be it the goal-tending be the ‘Hawks issues overall. Last night not withstanding necessarily since it was really a bed crap like Toews stated, but there’s too many times for my comfort that Corey is not getting the body-clearing work out of his area from his skaters.
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not saying Craw is anywhere close to these guys but goes to show that NHL goalies can handle the work load
This statement, along with the players you cited completely undermined your argument, along with citing three players who have won or at least been finalists for the Vezina.
Crawford has played upwards of 50-60 games for the majority of his pro career, but this is still his first full year in the NHL, and that level of competition will wear on even the so-called elite goalies, such as the ones you cited. Tell me, how many Stanley Cups have those goalies won since the lockout? How many times have they gotten out of the first round?
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The argument is stating that when there is a such a large disparity of talent between the #1 and #2 goalies you have to play the #1 upwards of 70 games a year. and by default those goalies mentioned above are far and away better than the #2 goalies.
Your point that this is his first NHL season has some merit, but the fact of the matter is that i am highlighting the difference in talent level of the two goalies rather than the overall quality of the #1 goaltender.
In this day and age alot of teams have a quality #1 and a pretty good #2, which would almost qualify as a #1a and #1b. The hawks and the goalies mentioned above fall into the clearly defined #1 and #2 goalie roles
For instance last year on the Avs Craig Anderson had a standout season and played 71 games because he was by far and away the #1 tender and there obviously a large difference in talent between him and his back up. He didn’t win the Vezina but he was by far the best goalie on the team.
But if you’re conceding that Crawford’s NHL durability is an unknown quantity, the evidence we’re seeing, as cited by Sam’s stat in the preview, shows that Crawford is wearing down, and narrowing what you are calling an obvious talent gap between Turco and Crawford. That would lead one to conclude that Turco should get a start here or there.
No one is asking to pull the ripcord and give Turco the bulk of the starts for the remaining 11. We’re asking that Crawford be used more judiciously, but given that Quenneville has passed up on opportunities to get Crow rest to this point, it doesn’t seem likely to happen now.
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I agree
that Crow should play the big games, and most of them, but Marty Turco is capable of winning at this level too, and there is no point in burning out your rookie goaltender when you have a pretty decent number 2 that can step in when needed. It has been a while since Crow gave up less than 3 goals, granted, he is not to blame for all of those, but still, give the kid a rest for a game or two, Marty can handle himself.
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by BigCSouthside on Mar 18, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Whatever the problem is,
it seems to only occur in the 1st, because after that Craw is usually pretty tight. Those damn 1st period goals though, every game it seems he lets in 3, and there is always one he gives up with around a minute left in the period and those end of period goals are just fucking total morale killers.
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The argument is stating that when there is a such a large disparity of talent between the #1 and #2 goalies you have to play the #1 upwards of 70 games a year.
I not going to rerun the numbers but I posted them a few days ago. During the 8 game win streak Crawford’s stats actually started to decline. No one really noticed because the Hawks were scoring 4-6 goals per night.
Over the past 10 games, Crow has a .884 SV% and his GAA is an even more awful 3.46.
For the season, Turco has a .897 SV% and a 3.02 GAA.
As of late, I’m not seeing this huge discrepancy you speak of.
If Crawford isn’t tired than what might be worse is that he is reverting to his career norm.
As BigC said “No one is asking to pull the ripcord and give Turco the bulk of the starts for the remaining 11.”
Yet.
I AM NOT NEUROTIC! I'm just worried that I might be.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 18, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
than-then, tomato-tometo
I AM NOT NEUROTIC! I'm just worried that I might be.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 18, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I just got incredibaly dumber!
I read Justin Bourne and drinking in Hockey, based somewhat on his NYI Training Camp experience. While I was reading it, I kept thinking about what the guys say (yesterday’s links) about Toews and taking care of himself to be as fit and ready as possible. But really WOW, I’m not a former pro hockey player, but for some reason I am willing to bet Pre-Season and Rookie Camp may be just a little different than when the games count for something!
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Mar 18, 2011 10:17 AM CDT reply actions
Yeah
It’s probably worse, because guys on the team can afford to pay hefty bar tabs.
The premise itself is completely obvious, it has nothing to do with the level Bourne played at. From midgets to college/junior to rec leagues to pros, there’s always beer in the dressing room, and often times a trip to the bar after a game (circumstances permitting).
How it takes anyone 1200 words to say that just shows Bourne’s misguided belief that he is descending from atop hockey’s Mt. Olympus to bestow upon us knowledge from the inner sanctum.
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We know they drink (think 10 minutes after Game 6 until August for the Hawks!)
But I am also willing to bet many also moderate it much more than he implies though, that is why Toews kept popping in my head, though I’m sure some (Kaner) have no issue hitting it hard still. A few here and there is nothing to fret, but to me he was implying most are hammered 20 hours a day. But yes, 1200 words to say what he did, can be done in a 100 words paragraph, or this “Some NHL’s drink hard, some of those most of the time when away from the rink, and some even show up drunk still”.
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Mar 18, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
....and just like that looking at the standings has once again become vomit inducing.
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by HjammerTime on Mar 18, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I know its mentioned alot
but not putting hendry on LOTR and playing 5 d in a huge game is just ridiculous and unacceptable. I get the cap issues and that guys get sick but theres a reason you can carry more then 20 guys on a roster.
by SergeiKrivokrasov25 on Mar 18, 2011 10:48 AM CDT reply actions
Rockford and Mordor aren’t entirely dissimilar.
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I've never been
but I wouldn’t be surprised.
Rockford isn’t going to make it in the AHL playoffs anyway, right? It’s not like our AHLers are busy. Call someone up already, management.
One can't simply walk into Rockford?
I guess you have to take a bus or something?
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Doofus
I applaud the comments about the guy in the Hawks jersey standing up and waving to the camera every three seconds. It was a good night to keep your sorry ass in your seat and not be seen if you were cheering for the Indian head. Sit the fuck down, already. Also, what happened to the captions on the CI? I enjoy them thoroughly and they seem to have gone away. Bring ’em back, please.
you should email sam about the CI captions
he might not read your comment here.
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That game gave me the worst headache ever
Crawford needs a couple of games off. I never though I would say this but put Turco in.
/who said that?
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