Gallows Pole - Canucks 3, Hawks 2, Canucks Lead Series 3-0
by McClure on Apr 17, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
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It should be telling that for controlling the majority of the play this evening, the Hawks still couldn't top the Canucks, or even muster much at even strength. The names were heard from with goals from Keith and Sharp, and Jonathan Toews had two assists, but again the Hawks were exposed for what they have been for the entirety of the season, which is a middling, mediocre team. This wasn't about want. Names and bums alike, the drive and will was there. But skill prevailed. Fifty four seconds in the middle fram was all it took to get the Hawks chasing again, and the Canucks gave next to nothing 5 on 5. Now the Hawks find themselves at the gallows, noose around the neck and bag over their head, with the lever about to be pulled.
Observations
- For all the forced plaudits Konroyd et al subjected the viewing masses to regarding John Scott's 4 hits in the first, all it took was a dumb fuck penalty behind the play which of course resulted in a red light behind Crawford to end his night. His 5:20 of ice time was augmented by the ill-conceived idea of putting him on the power play. "John Scott on a power play" is in the team photo in the most offensive phrases a Hawks fan could ever hear, along with "Captain Alex Zhamnov" and "Alexander Karpotsev". Never. Again.
- The Canucks won the "Sedins held off the scoresheet" game, and the "March to the Box" game. That should tell you all you need to know about how this is going to end.
- Speaking of those power plays, for having two goals, the advantage once again reeked of disorganization and poor choices. Even though Luongo made two consecutive huge saves on Toews and Kane during the 2-man advantage, the Hawks still refuse pull their heads out of their ass on the 5-on-3. The point men have to at least walk the puck to the middle of the ice. Standing stationary makes the sticks in the lanes all that much more useful. If the point men ever walked the puck to the middle and/or criss-crossed to get a one-timer, I'm pretty sure my anus would prolapse. And again, the ultimate irony is how much the coaching staff stresses their importance.
- Duncan Keith needs to be re/de-programmed in the off season. His goal notwithstanding, his insistence on forcing things, be it a shot into shinguards, or a pass that isn't there, his decision making has been wretched for the last 7 months. It's no better exemplified than when he's lugging the mail from the Hawks' end on the power play, every defenseman running a power play learns from the age of about 10 on that you don't make a pass until you're pressured. Without fail, by the time he reaches his own blue line, that puck will be forced into traffic.
- Corey Crawford saw the Erhoff goal the whole way, and has to make that save.
- On the Torres hit: he probably should have gotten 5 and a game, but I'm sure he's going to sit down for a pecker slapping from Toronto tonight or tomorrow. Unfortunately, he's not one of the guys that truly matter for the Canucks.
- Ryan Kesler's performance tonight makes me long for Dave Bolland of last year. It's a shame Bolland probably won't get a chance to recreate it, and it's a coinflip at this point whether or not Bolland himself can even remember last year.
- While Nick Leddy got pantsed on the second goal getting crossed up on the outside by Edler, Viktor Stalberg has to stay with Daniel Sedin as he was breaking down to the far post, as Keith was actually doing his job staying at home in front of the net.
- Some cartoonish ice times for everyone: Kane - 26:15, Toews - 23:55, Ben fucking Smith - 20:29. No offense to Smith, but if the team is leaning on him this hard at this stage of the season, then the Hawks are in the exact position they should be in.
- Only Mason Raymond was even at an even 50% (4 of 8), with everyone else taking it hard at the dot, and yet still the Hawks couldn't manage the puck well enough to muster a goal at even strength.
- Even with the Flyers' miraculous comeback last season against the Bruins, history is not on the Hawks' side, and they should know it. All they can do on Wednesday is come out and skate their asses off and hope for the best. But do not trust to hope.
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But then who's going to beatbox at my wedding?
The fourth dimension will collapse in upon itself, bitch.
Oh well
I love this team and will never stop. Tough year.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
I agree, but we need to edit that
I love this franchise and always will, but I hate this team.
"What is icing?"
"Well, uh... icing appen when uh the puck come down... bang, you know, before the other guys, nobody there, you know. My arm go comme ça then the game stop then start up."
by anActiveStick on Apr 17, 2011 11:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Is it okay
for me to love 2009-10 Duncan Keith and absolutely abhor 2010-11 Duncan Keith? (actually that is a little extreme, the guy ate so many minutes this year so I’d cut him a lot of slack)
With Duncs, it's a matter of minutes - if he goes over a certain amount, his decisions are affected.
Can we roll 6 D men next year?
It looked like San Jose only had 2, and they’re doing OK… (meaning better than I thought)
If we don’t get more centers, Towes will die trying – we’re a helicopter team – one center, and a bunch of wings (or something like that)
Regarding cap space – how the fuck did Vancouver stack so much depth around a 10 mildo goalie? (Stan, are you taking notes? – Dale is)
Thank god for Rum – let’s go win one!
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
hey will lose alot of depth this off season.
Bieks 3.7, Salo 3.5, Ehrhoff 3.1, Alberts 1.0, Higgins 1.6, Torres (Douchebag) 1.0, Glass 625,00, Tambellini 500,000 are all UFA
With Lapierre 900,000, Hansen 825,000, & Sweat 650,00
They will have about 16 mil to spend but they are gonna have to give out a lot of raies and not everyone is coming back. It may not be as bad as the Hawks situation, but it will hurt when they have to bring newbies in to fill holes like we did.
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
Not necessarily
The UFA targets will probably be Bieksa (who was supposed to be trade bait last offseason) and Ehrhoff. Salo certainly won’t be getting a raise, considering his age and rather checkered injury history. However, the Canucks have some very good defensive prospects on their farm team (Tanev probably leading the pack). There was a point during the season where the Canucks D was Ehrhoff + 5AHLers, so they could probably afford to lose one guy or two guys on D.
As for the offense, Tambellini hasn’t gotten a point in about 25 games, and he’s been a healthy scratch the whole series so far. Who knows if he gets re-signed. Hansen should definitely get a raise though. Glass probably will as well. Higgins/Lapierre were trade deadline pickups, so that’s that.
Series is probably over
But dammit Hawks, please don’t let them clinch at the UC. Force those bastards to earn the victory in their own rink.
Never Die Easy.
Apt Write-Up
I think you hit the nail right on the head with nearly, if not all, the things to take away from this game and this series. It’s always nice to see my thoughts put into words by someone else.
Jumping on with you!
Chicago sports fans- we understand disappointment.
Go 2010-2011 Chicago Blackhawks- and hug a Minnesota Wild player when you see him!
Go 2010-2011 Philadelphia Flyers!
by Hawks&Flyers on Apr 17, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
And to everyone who hates on Frolik
There is definitely a lot of heart. Granted his play is a little choppy, but he is young and there is plenty of talent. Give it some time.
I just don’t know if it will be here. The ‘Hawks need a another centre moving forward and he’s not the answer there and with Smith and Morin coming up, there really is no spot for him at the price tag of $1.6 million (which he’ll ask for more as he’s an RFA).
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I agree it might be a coinflip on Frolik
I really like the kid and has has two-way talent, but the Hawks have other needs. He might end up being a luxury they can’t afford to keep.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 17, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Between him or johnson
who would you choose?
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
...I think I may have to go with Fro
Because he’s younger and hasn’t had the injuries RJ has.
Though, I love what Johnson has brought to the team this year. He’s money at the dot.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 17, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You fill the fourth line centre position with the return of John Madden.
It will be an inexpensive pickup and a return of a guy that helped win the Stanley Cup in Chicago.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
hm interesting
Drop both RJ and Fro, acquire madden, and what are our looks for a second line center?
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Pavelski.
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Frolik
Every day of the week, twice on Sunday, and four times on Monderday.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 17, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
New Buff!
Like a stout fire hydrant!
by VerStig on Apr 17, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
needs more ass in front of net
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
I am a fan.
I didn’t get to yell about him being a stout dude tonight though.
by transienthawk on Apr 17, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Love Ben Smith - natural born glass cleaner
Always wins the board battles – the scoring is gravy.
Loved his work ethic when was up for 3 games – cried when he left – can’t believe he wasn’t back waaaayyy sooner.
Go get ’em kid!
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
Seriously
I feel like I mentioned my love of his play when I got to see him live here in NY… not sure if anyone remembers.
The thing that strikes me the most about him is that he doesn’t look like a rookie out there. Plays with confidence, backchecks hard, and is (mostly) positionally sound. He could’ve had a goal in the 1st when he got a little room in the slot.
He might make some rookie mistakes next year, maybe even lose us a game, but honestly watching him I feel like I’m watching a mature player, a guy who knows how to play hockey. Might not be a superstar but a solid part of our team.
I like him right now
I want to see what he’ll be like next year before I get on the Ben Smith bandwagon.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
I like that kid
and Morin
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 18, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I liked Morin when he was up here
but I’m worried about his injury/concussion history
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
This.
I’m feel numb after this loss, but watching Smith over the last few games makes me excited for next year.
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by Hawks&Flyers on Apr 17, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I really would like Leddy to get some time in Rockford next year and Smith is a small sample size
But I think Leddy will be very good someday and Smith will be a solid third liner
Could potentially be the next Versteeg. I like his game and attitude. Stepped up when other didn’t and that should be taken into account.
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Leddy stays here
The kid has shown he belongs – some rough patches when he was first called up (of course), but he’s played beyond his years. Shows maturity, makes mostly good decisions with the puck, takes defenders out of plays and off the puck, is rarely caught out of position, has shown flashes offensively, has proven his mettle in difficult situtations. Sending him back to Rockford will only retard his growth, IMHO.
Ri-TARD
I agree. Kid’s gonna be awesome in a couple of years.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
well, actually
it would be preferable if they came out TUESDAY and skated their asses off. Otherwise, day late and several game short.
Campbell, Campbell, Campbell…
You didn’t clear the puck on the rebound. Then you coasted back when Kesler raced to the puck, taking a dumb penalty and negating a powerplay. Two huge mistakes when the game is on the line. It’s gonna be hard to justify your 7 mill.
And where were you, Hossa?
Yeah, it looked a little soft to me
Especially since it was exactly the same penalty called on Raffi Torres.
Just a piece of my own perspective
My best friend is serving in the Navy on the U.S.S. Enterprise which is currently on tour in the Mediterranean, which means he’s right near a lot of volatile areas.
I got a phone call from him today, the first call in a long time since he has been deployed; if it wasn’t for his infectious love of hockey I doubt I would be the Hawks fan I am today, something for which I am (despite present circumstances) eternally grateful.
Despite the loss, just knowing he is safe and hearing from him has made this a good day.
by CubsFan87 on Apr 17, 2011 10:35 PM CDT reply actions 11 recs
Rec'd.
It’s easy to get caught up in your team. But there’s a world bigger than this game out there.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Apr 17, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawks hockey cures whatever ails you.
Tell him we said, ‘Stay safe, warrior.’
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for a healthy does of perspective...
…on an otherwise depressing night.
by bluekoolaide on Apr 18, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
""Captain Alex Zhamnov""
[shudder]
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 17, 2011 10:40 PM CDT reply actions
Anything I can do to help.
Who doesn’t need a laugh after that game?
by David Verdier on Apr 17, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
That Erhoff goal hasn't really been discussed
Crawford has done great this year and been very good, but I worry that the Hawks do something stupid and sign him to ridiculous contract. He surprised the shit out of me this year, because I never saw anything all that impressive from him in Rockford. Seems like he has been shaky at certain points of the series. Which happens, Niemi wasn’t very good last night either.
Maybe they won't?
He hasn’t won the shiny thing yet, plus we finally have a good goaltending prospect in our system (other than Crawford himself).
ah yes
Salak!
Crawford is still a boss though, we can cut him some slack every now and then, its not like he asks for a lot of it.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Theodore would be a nice asset to have as a backup … that and he’s one of the reason why we made the playoffs.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
lol, least we could do for him right?
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s played awfully well for us, but I just don’t see how the numbers add up to a big contract for him. He deserves a raise and will get one, but I don’t think he’s going to get a large contract.
www.mjt.org
They also let a Stanley Cup winner walk, though … I think we’ve learned our lesson here.
www.mjt.org
Yup. We did and it almost took us down to the lottery clock as Turco was just plain awful as a ’Hawk.
Crawford stays for a Howard price tag and I’ll be happy with that.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
I'm not sure that's entirely fair
Turco played most of his games when our defense was still on vacation. He was by no means stellar, but, like Crawford later on, he kept us in a lot of games we had no business contending in.
Granted, I’m a huge Turco apologist, so take that with as many grains of salt as you wish.
Granted our defence wasn’t good, but he wasn’t either and it was clear that the team had lost faith in him to the point where Crawford played 20+ games in a row at the season’s end.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
I don't know
I think any team would have ridden their #1 for 20+ games when during each of those 20 games they were a game or two out of missing the playoffs.
That said, much as I like Turco, I have no difficulty admitting that Crawford was the better goalie this season.
I like Turco's antics
and he had some great years. This was not one of them. Neither was last year or the year before. I doubt you’ll see him in the NHL next year. The avg goalie has about a .930 even strength SV%. When your SV% is below .900 at EV, you’re not an NHL goalie, no matter how bad your team plays in front of you.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 17, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
Can’t much argue with that.
I just like Turco about as much as Hack likes Brouwer. I think if he had a .500 SV% I’d still think he could turn it around.
I truly wish it wasn't the case
I had high hopes for what he could add to the breakout with his ability to play the puck. Unfortunately a goalie’s #1 priority is to stop it first. Like Huet, he seems like a great teammate, wish he could’ve gotten a Cup.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 17, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, pains me to say it
but I get the feeling he’s in “Hey, we are same… brothers!” territory next year.
Yeah, Huet and Habby.
I don’t think they’re going to make that mistake again.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 17, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
goaltending is overrated
IE luongo… one of the most talented goaltenders in the league, yet if the team and defense sucks in front of you, what are you going to do?
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 17, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Goaltending may be overrated
but I also believe we tend to underrate it here. Bad goaltending will sink a good, even great, team.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 17, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
but can it win a stanley cup without a great team?
See again: Montreal Candiens
I'm wondering if Rozner's column tomorrow...
…will be that the Hawks lost because Scott didn’t play the second-half of the second or the third.
I realize we were shallow to begin with and the injuries have mounted, but you can’t tell me Klinkhammer wouldn’t have killed us more tonight than a guy who grinds a power play to a halt, causes the penalty that leads to the tying goal, and couldn’t skate fast enoguh to actually hit someone (regardless of what the stats say), and does this in only 8 shifts, forcing everyone to skate even more the second half of the game.
by GenPabloSecobar on Apr 17, 2011 10:46 PM CDT reply actions
Scott did completely kill that PP
Everyone else skating around trying to wait for his big ass to get in position instead of skilled players simply controlling puck possession.
Awful experiment – but we knew it was fucking coming.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 17, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Win or lose on Tuesday
this series will help the youngsters and the guys who never really got any playoff ice time with other teams to see what it takes to compete in the post season, and to show the Hawks powers-that-be what is out there and what is needed.
I didn’t watch a hell of a lot of the game, but even when the Hawks were pressuring in the offensive end, I never got the feeling that the ’Nucks were fearful or not in control. It helps that they took our miserly 1-0 lead and bitch-slapped it very quickly in the mid-second period. As much fun it would be to see this team turn into the 2009-2010 Flyers, I feel the Hawks will be on the links by next weekend.
As great the Scum have been for over a decade, even they only repeated once in 14 years. The Hawks will continue to retool and will be even better next year.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
You can say that about the Torres penalty again.
How he got away with that elbow is fucking beyond me. He left his feet. He stuck out his elbow. He fucking demolished the defenseless head of Brent Seabrook. He was given a minor penalty. The NHL will attempt to jizz all over my face by saying it takes concussion saftey seriously, but tonight they let a fucking worthless piece of shit coming off a two game suspension and nearly decapitate one of the games great defenseman. The Bieksa elbow to the back of Sharp’s head could have also been called an intent to injure.
The Canucks are not only outscored us, tonight, they began rubbing our face in shit. They ran Seabrook his two shifts after the elbow in the second period until he had to leave the bench. Watching the Hawks lose to a good team is one thing, watching them get absolutely railroaded by cheapshots is another. The Hawks do not play a retaliatory game, the league wants more of that. For that kind of game to work, it requires the league to have competent officiating and for the league to be very very serious about concussion safety which they constantly assure us they are. For teams to feel comfortable easing out the enforcer/dirty SOB style, they need to know the league is going to hold the line. Tonight it did not.
/have neve blamed a game on officals.
// Hawks should have converted their chances.
///This Torres shit needs to be aid.
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Lets see how Toronto responds
Like all things NHL, the concussion reforms have been a clusterfuck. But I do not really think you can say those refs speak collectively for the NHL.
I do not really think you can say those refs speak collectively for the NHL.
A 5 min major might have better voiced their opinion.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 17, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
That hit was one of the most flagrant
of the year, and by a repeat offender. That fact that he was not tossed is joke. I suspect he could get 10 games once the league looks at it.
10 games?
Was there and missed it live, haven’t seen a replay but didn’t realize it was that egregious
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by OMFS88 on Apr 18, 2011 8:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah? check this out
TrevorBierema Absolutely, keep your head up Seabrook RT"@DaveShreeve: Ummmm, that’s a clean hit by Torres people. #canucks #blackhawks"
I don't know what this means.
Are you saying people think it was clean?
We have those people here too, right? When our guy does something bad, like Hossa vs NSH in the playoffs, or Hammer.
They just don’t get it. That is a bad hit in today’s NHL. Like Roenick said last night. 10 years ago, that’s a good hard hit, but not now.
What were we talking about?
LOLZ
So because some Canadian college student and and a Packers fan in Ontario agree with each other makes it so?
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I just think
some people are still judging the validity of the hit based on as recent as halfway this season. I hope that’ll change.
But if we’re gonna call on the implementation of the new rules, why did they let Seabrook on the ice so soon after such a hit?
Coconuts go.™
"Things may come to those who wait, but only what’s left behind by those who hustle."
If a head hit is a madatory "miss a few shifts"
than a delayed penalty is going to be blood bath. Hit the other teams best D man/forward in the head during the DP, get him off the ice, etc.
Seabrook got right up, that’s why he was back in there. Should he have been? Don’t know, but Torres is gonna get murdered. I would go for his legs and hard. Like they have done to Kronwall. He wants to mess with others heads and lives after hockey, then he pays for it. Oh! I hope he gets to play Shea Weber.
What were we talking about?
That's a ridiculous point
Sid didn’t lay down on the ice after one of his severe concussions, he skated another period, for Chrissakes. The reason why concussions are so insidcious is that often the injured player isn’t aware of how badly his brain is damaged, and oftentimes his body works just fine. The leading expert on concussions in sports is Dr. Robert Cantu (he’s working with the NFL), and you can check out his work on the subject if you need more information.
I agree with 87 though
Seabs probably shouldn’t have been out there. The guy looked glossed over and out of it. He had the same lost look he had after the Wiz hit (where he got right back up too). Tough as nails doesn’t mean not injured.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
But that's not what he's saying (I think)
He’s making the point that he couldn’t have been that badly injured since he kept on playing, and you’ve just reiterated my point that that’s a terrible indicator of the severity of a concussion.
No no
I didn’t bring up the point to imply that I thought he wasn’t badly injured, for the record.
Coconuts go.™
"Things may come to those who wait, but only what’s left behind by those who hustle."
by eightyseven on Apr 18, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
OK, thanks for the clarification
Which proves that you’re good people.
And it's
she, haha
Coconuts go.™
"Things may come to those who wait, but only what’s left behind by those who hustle."
by eightyseven on Apr 18, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
The officials are agents of the league.
They do literally speak for the league. So I think I can blame this one them.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
It was seriously worse than anything I’ve seen from the St. Louis Blues. Vancouver may get past the second round but once they see the Winged Wheel it will come to a crashing halt.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Thank you for correcting. The officials tonight gave a motherless fuck coming off a four game suspension the benefit of the doubt on a headshot.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
but don't worry, player safety is their first priority
SCH's resident 8 year old
by LanceFister3 on Apr 17, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh Im not worried. They were very serous when they suspended Hjammertime at the beginning of the year.
Im sure, like any civilized organization, that they rely on precedent for such things….
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
So much this
This wasn’t about want.
I don’t know what team some people are watching but if this team looks bad, it’s because they’re struggling. Nobody’s perfect, and we have guys who are having down years. That’s not going to change overnight. But their “want” is always there, and I’m sure it will be well into next year.
I think they are simply totally physically spent
Combine that with a one line team and you are going to have some very tired players
yeah like I posted in some thread some morning
for the love of, well, anything — Q, don’t play anybody 30 minutes a game for the first 10 games of next season, PLEASE!
No depth
and 3 key players out (Bolland, Bickell, Kopecky – basically one full line). I’m not so sure so much separates these two teams (aside from class) when the Hawks are fully healthy. But that’s where depth comes into play.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 17, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
remember last year when we rolled 4 lines?
yea, that was great. I would like more depth for next season plz. Which aisle is that in?
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
I'm pissed off and I'm struggling to figure out who to be pissed off at.
I think the Canucks are just that good this year. Yes, I’m looking towards next year now. Let’s get Keith re-programmed as was said, and see Leddy, Kruger, and Smith mature over the summer for a real treat next season.
The only question is… if it’s ’Nuck v Scum in the Conference final, who in the name of Mikita do we root for in that junkyard scenario?
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 10:55 PM CDT reply actions
Scum
Keep it in the Central I say. I think most of us feel like VAN is the bigger rival now as well, but perhaps I’m in the minority there.
I also think they’re the only team that can stop Vancouver. San Jose will eventually resort to their old losing ways and it doesn’t seem like Boston’s gonna make it out of the east. Philly might be able to beat them but I don’t really trust their goaltending.
Red Wings
They’re going to win it all, especially as they’re giving Zetterberg all the rest he wants moving into the second round.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Scum. Fuck Vancouver.
Red Wings are worthy fuckin opponents. The Canucks are trash.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was leaning this way.
You just pushed me over. Scum it is.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad I could help.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
The thought of that coach lifting the Cup and then bitching about Hawks PP's late in the game...
Too much. Scum it is.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Bingo. Ill hate the Wings until the day I die.
But at this juncture, I would rather see Vancouver fail.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
It's like the Twins v the Yankees or Red Sox.
Twins it is.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
More bingo. Rec'd
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i might hate the wings with a burning passion
but i still respect them. I cannot respect the Canucks, bunch of trash.
Heh
You know, I didn’t really hate on that many of their players, given that Burrows and Kesler (America, fuck yeah) cleaned up their game… but now that you mention the coach gets to lift the cup…
Kevin Bieksa too. Raffi Torres. Alex Burrows.
No thanks. The Hawks, maybe you could see someone being disgusted that Burish lifted the Cup. But the Nucks, the list just fucking goes on…..
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
The Scum? Really?
I never thought I’d see the day when any Hawks fan would actually root for the Red Wings. I mean that’s like me rooting for Calgary. Granted, their playoff rivalry has been absent for awhile.
Also, the series is not over and I expect a little more sand from Hawks Nation!
by QatarCanuck on Apr 18, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Sand?
Other than Bertuzzi, SCUM doesn’t go out with intent to injure on every freaking play – they really went over the line in this series, and if they meet up with SCUM they’ll find out what happens when you attempt to take liberties with the game’s best players. If they face the Ducks Kesler’s head will be torn clean off in the first period, and Bieksa will have his hip shattered in short order.
Sand
We have a lot of it where I live and I find that the word is making its way into everyday sentences. Aside from that, you and I both know that NHL is physical and we both have differences with the way it’s enforced by Campbell an co. I think the Torres hit was bad and he probably should have gotten 5 and a game. For the sake of safety and rules he should be given a suspension. However, I don’t believe that the canucks are playing a dirty series, they’re just playing physical, tough, playoff hockey.
by QatarCanuck on Apr 18, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
OK
But if they face the same in the second round from their opponents then AV better shut his blowhole about ANYTHING happening on the ice from there on out. They’re going to get it back in spades, and they’ll have no one to blame but themselves.
From your lips...
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 17, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
SJ is getting past Los Angeles? O.K. then.
Take Detroit people.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
I think San Jose will win that series
The Kings gave the Nucks a scare last year too but they lost in the end. I would agree with you if they had Kopitar in the series, but I can’t see them taking it without him.
If DET plays VAN in the finals
then I start cheering for someone from the East to beat VAN.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 17, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Have to pull for Scum
One hell of an organization and a team that can win with class (with the exception of Bertuzzi. Fuck him).
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 18, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
He’s paid his dues.
Let’s not take Burke, Marc Crawford, and the Vancouver media off the hook that wanted their pound of flesh after the elbow to Naslund’s head. Plenty of blame to go there.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
I think a lot of the anger
is directed at the fact that he wasn’t punished more severely. But you do have to admit that he’s cleaned up his game substantially.
He should have received the full year in 2005-06. But he did face the public execution while Burke, Crawford, and the rest of the Canuck organization just faded into the sunset claiming no wrong-doing.
It’s them I’m more upset about than Bertuzzi who did club him, but it was his own teammates jumping on top of Moore that really did the most damage.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Marc Crawford is a cockhole
I never liked him.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 18, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Detroit is the team to beat especially with all that playoff experience and that they’re well rested after a short playoff run last season.
Babcock vs. Vigneault would be a clown car of a mismatch.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Datsuk is a beast out there
Did you see that move he made on the goalie last game? Sicker than anything in the playoffs so far, and it looked like he wasn’t even trying that hard on the shot. I think he’s also used primarily on the checking line these days – if so, forgettaboutit.
That through the leg shot on goal?
It was nuts. Players don’t often try that kind of stuff in a regular season game, yet alone the playoffs. The man is skilled. No doubt about it.
Yeah. Windows Vista doesn't run well on him.
Back to Windows 95.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
XP.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 17, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
7 man
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
As long as it isn't ME!
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 17, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
dont forget jeremy morin
hopefully that concussion didn’t do to much damage to his game.
oh and we root for Detroit, I at least respect detroit…I dare say I will kind of like them if the destroy the nucks….god help me.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, shit.
I forgot about #27. Well done. Exciting for next year.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I would have to go with the Canucks
I like the city of Vancouver alot, the Canucks are a fun team to watch and they are not the Blues or the Wings. I really would like to see a Ducks v Nucks series, good clash of styles.
Vancouver fans are bitchy, whiny malcontents.
Scum fans are self-assured fucktards.
I’m rooting for my alcoholism.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
people are people
The only fanbase you can really stereotype are sports fans from Philly IMO. I cannot stand Babcock and the Blues.
I do not really get all that wrapped up in rivalries. I respect the Canucks, they are good. I even like Vigneault up until an hour ago.
If I agreed with you anymore on Filthidelphia fans, we'd be the same person.
Fuck Philadelphia sports fans. Fuck them in their faces.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
lol i go to school in philly
I was the only hawk fan i knew, watching those games were brutal.
I walked out with a hossa jersey on and within 30 minutes I got shit from 3 different people.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I wore a Toews sweater on a flight stop in Philadelphia BEFORE the finals...
And they were already being dickish. Fuck Philadelphia sports fans.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
My dad wore a Buff jersey in Vancouver and said that people were laughing about it and really nice
BC weed is just that good, very laid back people
You mean like Dodgers fans do
And Philly will never be able to live down cheering while a paralyzed football player was taken off the field (bad cheering, not concern cheering)
Or booing Santa Claus.
Or throwing batteries. Or vandalizing a reporter’s car during the Montreal series. Or generally just being violent, sadistic, small-dicked fucktards.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
And the fans haven't changed one bit
It’s a tradition for them, let’s act like the massive douches we’ve always been.
Vancouver
is a bunch of dirty whiny bitches. I dread the thought of the Sedins on the cup. Wings.
by Esquire02 on Apr 17, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll take it over V.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Babcock has been a douche for a longer period of time
The Wings win it all the time, I do not want them to win another damn cup… whatever though, different strokes for different folks
At least Babcock is a good coach
He gets a lot of shit because he comes across as a douche, but the man knows what he’s doing. AV though…I hope he never lifts the cup.
by Ban on Apr 17, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Babcock is the best coach in the business and probably would’ve won the division had he had the talent of this team this year.
Q is nowhere close to the terms of coaching prowess as Babcock. Even Scotty Bowman knows this.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Agreed
I think Q is very reactionary in what he does. If something doesn’t go well, he jumbles the lines and hopes for the best. Thing is, that doesn’t work without depth. Babcock is more composed and realizes that a season is a marathon, not a sprint. A comment was made earlier about our top guys not playing 30 minutes a night from the get-go. I don’t think Babcock would have ran them into the ground the way Q did to start the season.
by Ban on Apr 17, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm a Canucks fan...
So I’m biased, but I’ve been surprised by the amount of “Vigneault is a lousy coach” sentiment on this site. Babcock is really top of the class, and Quenneville has outcoached AV in the past, but that’s not really proof that he’s a crap coach.
AV won coach of the year in 2007, and has produced a series of good (though obviously not great) teams. Lastly, he managed to comfortably win the league while his team was in the top-ten of man games lost, and his top six defencemen lined up in exactly one regular season game.
I’m not claiming the guy’s a mastermind, but what are others seeing that indicates he’s a poor coach?
be pissed at the salary cap
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 17, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Stay classy.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Your team will not win the finals this year
and there will be much rejoicing and merriment.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Roberto Luongo … meet Tomas Holmstrom. Enjoy.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
This.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
come talk to me when you have that shiny cup in your hand
which means i’m pretty sure you won’t be back
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Apr 17, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome, douche
Now get the fuck out of here
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 17, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
It's unfortunate, but that has to happen - I guess
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
OK,
Hawks didnt play good hockey, and I was in a skybox with a bunch of people who were HAPPY John Scott played. Jesus hates me.
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
I faithfully promise to add absolutely nothing of value to this conversation whatsoever.
"in a skybox with a bunch of people who were HAPPY John Scott played. Jesus hates me."
How are you here and not in jail awaiting murder charges?
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 17, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
meditation
and a steady diet of beer
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
And a steady supply of puppies
Or was it baby seals?
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
John Scott's just about as a good a hockey player as a paraplegic with skates.
Why on earth was he activated?
by David Verdier on Apr 17, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
My argument the whole night
Then when the light went red on the Scott penalty………anger
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
the sad thing is it wasnt too bad until that point
then it all crashed
SCH's resident 8 year old
by LanceFister3 on Apr 17, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
If only Scott was the reason they lost.
Let’s just hope they play a complete game on Tuesday night, this wasn’t close to their best collective effort.
not even close
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish I knew what it takes for them
to turn up the fire. Last Friday at the Joe, they were all over Scum, sticks working crisp passes, turnovers galore. I would like to see that team at least once more this season.
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
I agree. I don't understand it...
The inconsistency is maddening and confusing. How did that eight game streak occur, they looked invincible, how does it clap on and clap off?
"Don't look at me in that tone of voice, you've gotta BE the puck, Johnny"
Still think we're gonna hear about a lot of injuries.
Toews doesn’t look like anything close to 100%, Hossa looks to be injured again, Sharp and Campbell we know are playing injured, Keith is completely gassed.
All of this, and Bolland being out and Bickell, Kopy, and probably Johnson knocked out of the series with injuries, yet these games have been incredibly close.
This gives me some hope for next year, and it makes me seriously question how good Vancouver really is. I don’t see them winning it all.
At what point did you turn gun away from the dog and point it towards yourself?
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
that second Vancouver goal
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Im not even hammered
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You are a no-go at this station.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck, I know right?
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not a failure until you quit.
Go get that bottle.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
thank goodness the booze was free then.
you didn’t murder anyone, did you? because I’d like to use the bail money to pay my rent…
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
your rent is safe
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, if Buff gave hime trouble, wait till Homstrom parks his ass in the crease.
In fact, he spends about as much time in the crease as most goalies
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
Wow
You guys are already talking about the Canucks next opponents like the series is over. That’s just pathetic! Quitting on your one hit wonders. There’s still one or two games left.
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS, FOLKS.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 17, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
the mods are watching
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
and remember people
use your flag buttons – it’s there for a reason
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
Oh wow...
I completely haven’t even noticed we have those…I’m so used to just rec’ing the awesome shit people post here.
Hello, new best friend (I’m kidding…I won’t abuse it).
respectfully
go away
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Apr 17, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
This is why you I say go Wings
they dont come here and act like dbags…remember something…Vancouver hasnt won shit. You are up 3-0 on a team that backed in and you won the president’s trophy. Bobby Lu will be crying without a cup again.
Serious question
you’ve never gotten Detroit trollage in these parts?
Coconuts go.™
"Things may come to those who wait, but only what’s left behind by those who hustle."
Not the like of which we've seen from some of your brethren tonight
"What is icing?"
"Well, uh... icing appen when uh the puck come down... bang, you know, before the other guys, nobody there, you know. My arm go comme ça then the game stop then start up."
by anActiveStick on Apr 18, 2011 3:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure we have - this is just an unfortunate thing you have to deal with -
Please know that many of us enjoy your posts – but there’s gonna be some turbulence in the next couple of days…
I’m kinda stunned to see people pulling for Detroit – but it’s a free country. Live long and prosper.
What was the name of that Scotch you were drinking last year? – I need to go buy some.
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
Yup
There’s trollage on both sides, comes with the territory.
I left after the 2nd period. I didn’t wanna have to put up with potentially distasteful comments towards me. Saying that emotions were coming to head is an obvious understatement.
Coconuts go.™
"Things may come to those who wait, but only what’s left behind by those who hustle."
I don't post in GDTs for the most part
But I can see where hanging around would have caused issues, even if you were posting innocuous, or slightly hawk-positive things.
That said, I have generally enjoyed you/semi_/canuckles/kesrow posting here this series.
They'll have to pry the cup out of our cold, dead hands
Likewise
and please let me know if and when I cross any boundaries. I may call things how they are sometimes, but in the end of the day, I’m still a visitor and I’d like to carry my conduct as such.
Coconuts go.™
"Things may come to those who wait, but only what’s left behind by those who hustle."
by eightyseven on Apr 18, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Funny thing is
I know a bunch of people who jumped on Vancouver’s bandwagon this year. Don’t worry, unlike the Hawks, the Canucks won’t be one hit wonders, because they’ll never get a single hit.
by HattrickKane on Apr 17, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
One hit wonders are better than nothing … which is what you have.
You even have a statue commemorating your franchise’s success over the past 40 years and that’s Roger Neilson waving the white towel.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
one hit wonders?
didn’t the Hawks win the series two years in a row? And this one still ain’t over…
Second City Hockey
June 9, 2010
Better to be one-hit wonders, than never-hit wonders
Don’t even think the Canucks will win the Cup.
by maxachium27 on Apr 18, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I went to the game so I missed all the usual internet pre-game. Where the fuck was Johnson?
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
injured i read somewhere on these boards
don’t know for sure though, the only people the reporters have been mentioning are bickell and kopecky
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Apr 17, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
he got scratched
methinks it has to do with that knee, but unconfirmed
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Geez...
I knew Bolland, Kopecky, and Bickell were out – but I had no idea we had scratched our Johnson too…
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
There's an ointment for that
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 17, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I posted once during the intermission of Game 1 while I was waiting outside a bathroom.
I was home about 15 mins after the game ended.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
whoops...posted once during 1st intermission.* obviously had a few beers at game.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Canucks
1st in points
1st (and 4th) in scoring
- Power play
- Penalty Kill
Lou – Has not let in more than 3 goals in a game since Dec
Why does me coming on here and sharing my thoughts make me a troll? This make me a hockey fan. A troll hides their intentions, I am straight up with mine. I am trying to show you guys that the Canucks are a team that deserves respect. Maybe you think they can’t win but Vegas puts them at #1. (Before they went up 3-0 on you)
It's the way you are sharing your thoughts
Play nice – you know tensions are high here right now.
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
Golly Stacie you play too nice.
"Don't look at me in that tone of voice, you've gotta BE the puck, Johnny"
well I do like my tea parties
pinkies up everyone
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
Because of your new MOD status, i decline to comment further...
"Don't look at me in that tone of voice, you've gotta BE the puck, Johnny"
OH, WHAT A LOVELY TEA PARTY!
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 17, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
the tea party was in the pregame thread
SCH's resident 8 year old
by LanceFister3 on Apr 17, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
From what I've seen
many people, including the ones here, had the Canucks winning the series, whether it was in 4 games, or 7. Your team doesn’t get respect because of the general douchebaggery that is associated with the team and part of it’s fanbase.
by HattrickKane on Apr 17, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
This.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't get respect until you earn it
Canucks have earned shit. And again feel free to share your pro-canucks thoughts on NM. We don’t need to see them here.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Apr 17, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Deserve respect?
Lou, maybe.
The rest of the team is full of dickbags and fuckheads that resort to goonery when things don’t go their way.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm
In the Marines learned you need earn respect. Your demanding it.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
Being an ass about it makes you a troll
Especially after a loss. VAN fans were sensitive after a loss last year and rightfully so.
But you wouldn’t know that. You aren’t even a member there.
I don’t think we need to resort to this esquire. Let’s just stay classy and not throw junk at the guy like some teams fans do.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
He has been told nicely a number of times
I figured this is what he, being a Canucks fan, would understand since he certainly didnt understand the polite suggestions.
Also
not sure anybody wants him to come back even if they do win something.
The fourth dimension will collapse in upon itself, bitch.
You are coming off as a troll because you are trying to get a negative response from people
The Canucks have a site affiliated with SB. Some of us have even gone over there and had conversations, unlike you, who appears to to be goading people into argument over the internet. This comes of to me like a waste of time and energy.
Now have a nice night.
Nobody here has said the Canucks are not talented.
You'll get no respect . . .
Until you lose all the douchebags on your team — the list is too long to write.
by maxachium27 on Apr 18, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyways
we can still do this dammit!
I know history isn’t on our side, but it’s time to make new history.
John Scott....
There you go meatballs. Hope you enjoyed his net presence. His physical ability and all the other garbage spouted about him. And yes I know it is no his fault the Hawks lost or anything.
But please if you’re gonna pine for someone… pine for someone who can skate.
Thank you.
Pine for Andrew Ladd.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 17, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
THIS,
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Apr 17, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
Out fo the guys we let go he was one I didn’t get.
Please, don’t let me go there. Ladd should’ve never left.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
that was one of my points all night
but was drowned out by “Byfuglien never shoulda left”
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Post game show was like a meathead convention by the way
don’t listen if you value your sanity
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Just for my curiosity ....
what was one example?
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A caller citing the lack of Ben Eager as a reason we lost
nuff said
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Guess they didn't see the boneheaded
penalty he took in SJs last game.
by transienthawk on Apr 17, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
You just made a grown man cry.
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by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 17, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
there havent been any "more John Scott" calls, have there?
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by LanceFister3 on Apr 17, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Will anyone else be pissed if the Sharks
go all the way and Ben Eager gets his name on the Stanley Cup for a 2nd time before Toews.
Id kill and skin a flock of puppies
then eat them
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
No. That will mean the Canucks (Wings-Flyers) didn't get their name on the Cup.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
So they’re going to beat a Los Angeles team that has outplayed them since the first period of Game One? I’m not so sure they will.
Doughty and Johnson have been machines back there.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
I will probably put them on my list of teams to root for....
I don’t have a lot of hate for them I like Nemo… (but don’t want to read the dumbshit Hawks should have never let him go Haugh column again.)
Detroit – NO
Nucks -NO
Ducks -NO
I would love to see nashville win
That may be hopeful thinking though.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah....
But I have Wolves tickets and there are a lot of former Ads there I dont like.
I third this,
I respect the hard work they put in
"Don't look at me in that tone of voice, you've gotta BE the puck, Johnny"
and the organization for how they've built their team over the years
definitely my 2nd team. but where the heck has Chris Burton gone?
You have to eat lots of fiber, then... nevermind - that's Mr. Hankey
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
I wouldn't even care
once the Hawks go out, I completely shut off hockey. Besides, SJ has an extremely tortured fanbase, and I think they would deserve it. That would also mean the Nucks and Red Wings won’t win it.
Also, it’ll go a long way in getting new fans in the warmer areas.
by HattrickKane on Apr 17, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup
San Jose fans are pretty good about their hockey too. They’re pretty passionate and I respect them for that. Putting up a good team year after year after year, only to be disappointed…I wouldn’t mind them winning it.
But like you, my biggest problem with a San Jose cup would be all the Niemi garbage, but that can be easily remedied by disconnecting from hockey for a few months.
I would like to see niemi win again
He really wanted to stay in Chicago.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not completely convinced he wanted to stay, but I love what he did here.
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I think his agent fucked him
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by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 18, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Disconnecting form hockey is always a bad idea.
Watch the playoffs. They are fantastic. Then get ready for the insane offseason the Hawks are about to have. Like last offseason, it will likely feature a lot of turnover, but this time for the positive! Also, there will be trades!
Can you feel it!
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Expanding salary cap + no Conn Smythe bonus.
Hjammer possibly moved for center?
There is a lot of room.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Whatever. As my first post stated, lots of turnover and more wiggle room for Stanley.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Thought Scott
Had another year on his deal.
Well (I hate playing GM anymore) there are several options.
What about Los Angeles and their lack of a scoring threat? Hossa would be a nice fit. Who would they be willing to give up? Jack Johnson could be one name with Doughty still to be resigned.
If the Sharks go down to the Kings does Wilson look for a defenceman and move one of his centre’s? Pavelski would be a nice fit here but would have to part way with Hjalmarsson.
A plethora of options out there.
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I would trade Hammer for Pavelski if that was an option,
can’t really see it happening though. I think Wilson wanted Hammer as much for his D as he wanted to hurt the Hawks and that trade would work for the Hawks much better than the Sharks
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100% on Campoli which is why Hjalmarsson will be gone.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
They play a different style
But I am a firm supporter of the “Sign Campoli (to a reasonable time/salary) Campaign”
…perhaps at the expense of Hjammy
by transienthawk on Apr 17, 2011 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Campoli has been a pleasant surpise
Torn about TOFTBO, though
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by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 17, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too.
He’s one of 2 stay at home defenders.
Which are not to be undervalued, in my opinion.
His shot blocks are huge. Exhibit A being his block on that shot that would’ve been the nail in the coffin.
by transienthawk on Apr 17, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
He’s a tough sumabitch. He filled the Catfish role quite well.
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by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 17, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
And with the inflated market for D men
I’m not convinced he’s easy to replace. I would say the decision point is whether he can revert back to his physical self again. If he can, well, we thinned out in that department this year and we can’t afford to lose more.
I still believe there's a better than avg possibility Hjammer gets traded
but you’re right, he wouldn’t easily be replaced. If the Hawks are gonna keep:
Keith-Seabs
Campbell-?
Leddy-Campoli
Who’s blocking shots, can play in the Hawks system, and aside from Seabs, providing the physical element here?
The Hawks would have to spend more than league min to get 2 solid 5-6 D-men. I’m not opposed, just saying they would need to move the $2M they potentially save on keeping Campoli over Hjammer and spend that on 2 non-Boyntons/Scotts/Cullimores.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Brent Sopel … at a much cheaper cost and can play 15 or more minutes as evidenced in the Montreal and Boston series.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Sopel? There's a lot of mileage on that body.
And it will be that much more beat up after this year’s playoffs.
"Dave was there!"
"Dave's a killer!"
"Dave's a mess."
by Preacher000 on Apr 18, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
a “two years older than he was last year” Sopes, as much as l like him, is not what this team needs next year.
They'll have to pry the cup out of our cold, dead hands
Or Sean O’Donnell. Plenty of options out there.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Trust me, you don’t want SO’D. He looked okay/good at the beginning of the season, but lately he’s quite frankly terrible. I don’t know if it’s the grind of the regular season or the mileage or whatever – bad idea.
"Dammit, Pronger!"
seconded
he stands still a lot. and then when he moves you wish you hadn’t complained about it.
by flyersfaninchicago on Apr 18, 2011 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I would just say
You’d have to be careful not to end up right back where you started — trying to fill the role of a physical, stay-at-home defenseman who can play on the PK, and not pay too much. In today’s market I think that’s a tall order.
I would hope so
He’s done very well so far. I do think Hammer will have a bounce-back year next season, but even then, for a guy that’s as offensively unreliable as him, I do believe he may be overpaid and for a team with so much money tied up in their D, I don’t think we can take his cap hit. Keeping Campoli and Leddy and picking up somebody else to fill up the last spot would work well for us in addressing our depth on offense.
You know what I like about Campoli? Good Ill answer.
This kind of response sometimes get panned around here, but he shows some fucking toughness in front of our own net. When guys crash our crease he will get in their face and forcibly move them out of the crease area and Ive never seen him penalized for it. This guy can stay. The only other one who does anything similar is Seabrook, who is a fucking beast.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, and I think he really enjoys being a hawk
after playing in ottawa.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I was saying the same thing throughout the game tonight
He’s only 6’0" and he’s not afraid to jump in and defend his goalie and team-mates. That’s the kind of passion and commitment you want to see from a player. He also fits in with our style. He’s shifty and a pretty good puck-mover which definitely helps our offense.
And of course, like putmeinthemadhouse said, he’s genuinely happy to be here.
I feel like I'm exaggerating but I'm not sure I am
but Campoli is freaking awesome. I don’t see any weaknesses in his game.
Makes a bonehead pass now and then, but thats in style for our defense this season.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Keeping Canoli & moving Hammer would probably
give another 1- 1.25 in cap space, I think. Hammers @ 3.5 right now correct?
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trades plural?
A lot of these guys are UFAs, Hjammer is going probably…and some prospects maybe.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Beach. Brouwer. Kopy.
Lots of decisions to make. If they dump Brouewr and Kopy thats opening up a lot of space. Its going to be an interesting offseason.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Kopy is a UFA
I like Brouwer though, wouldnt want to see him go.
Call me crazy but for some reason there is a part of me that wants to see beach play a few games, maybe just to satisfy my curiosity lol.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I'll end up watching the playoffs
I usually do that and I even watched 2 years ago after the Hawks were knocked out by Detroit even though I was really disheartened by the series loss. Only if San Jose wins will I avoid hockey for a while…well, anything except for SCH, FifthFeather, and HockeeNight. I’m just not looking forward to reading the “Hawks should have kept Niemi” articles.
I’m very optimistic for next year. I think this loss will help our guys get refocused and more salary cap room will help us big-time. Definitely looking forward to 2011.
Thoughts
-Q has made a lot of questionable decisions this year, but this John Scott bullshit takes the cake. The entire staff can be called into question, as how a team with this much top-flight talent can’t score on 5-on-3’s is beyond me. A lot has been said about Kieth’s decision-making this year, well apparently the apple doesn’t fall far…
-Comments have been made about the kids, and I agree that next year should be fun if theyre around. This is a great experience for them. And, again with the management issues, where the fuck has Ben Smith been all year? He was up for, what, 5 games and now he just played 20 minutes in a “must win” playoff game? Its not like we were log-jammed with un-sittable (I know its not a word, but go with it) talent this year either.
-Toews was a beast tonight, and that’s a huge understatement. Sharp was pretty good. Kane was in the right places but lacked any finish of any kind. Hossa wasn’t very noticeable but for a few forechecks that didn’t amount to much.
-Anyone notice how the hawks had seemingly way more chances, but had one less goal? Call it “timely scoring” or “clutch”, but Van capitalized on chances. The hawks missed on many of theirs. Tough to beat a team that is better than you “on paper” when you don’t take advantage of opportunities. A 2-0 lead in the first makes this a whole different game.
I’m just glad we’re at the dance, but it still sucks to lose. At least pull one out, please. Just so I don’t have to listen to the words “swept in the first round” for the next year. God knows I’ve had enough of that with the Cubs’ recent playoff performances.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 17, 2011 11:29 PM CDT reply actions
I would just like something to remove the image
of Scott trying to methodically plant his ass in front of Lu on that PP. “Uh, how did dat Buff guy do it?”
WOW
What a bunch of dicks! As I said here, the Hawks tore the heart out of Vancouver two years in a row and you guys were loving it. Now its our turn and were a bunch of goons? Come on! I don’t care if you don’t respect the Canucks but when they knock you out of the playoffs you’ll learn to. We might not win the cup but we are certainly going to the second round.
You guys are the worst kinda fans.
The day you see garbage laying on the ice at the United Center you can come back. But until then Vancouver will wear that jacket for a long time.
Enjoy eating octopus.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
You're still here?
I repeat. Get the fuck out of here. You do noting but inflame and agitate.
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by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 17, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
We're not in the best of moods.
Surely you can remember the feeling from the previous years.
Perhaps your timing is not the best to (unintentionally?) rub it in.
by transienthawk on Apr 17, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. Your calmness is, well, calm. Well handled.
"Don't look at me in that tone of voice, you've gotta BE the puck, Johnny"
Your team
certainly has a lot of douchebaggery on it, no denying that.
Worst kind of fans? You are the one on the opposing side who came to this site to lord a win over us, why don’t you go talk with your fellow nucks fans at NM like a good fan instead of goading us?
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way
Getting to the 2nd round has never been Vancouver’s problem. Getting past it however…that’s a different story.
by Ban on Apr 17, 2011 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
That's a rec
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by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 17, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Fucking Rec'd
"What is icing?"
"Well, uh... icing appen when uh the puck come down... bang, you know, before the other guys, nobody there, you know. My arm go comme ça then the game stop then start up."
by anActiveStick on Apr 18, 2011 3:23 AM CDT up reply actions
stacie and other mods
This person is clearly a troll. Show us your powers and make this creature go away forever.
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by LanceFister3 on Apr 17, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Winning this series doesn't get you past the 2nd round.
I hope you draw Anaheim and I hope they pound the living fuck you of you.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's have fun with this
Complete the following sentence.
I don’t care if you don’t respect the Canucks but when they knock you out of the playoffs you’ll learn to……appreciate the taste of calamari?
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 17, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
solve Mr. Rubik's Cube in 10 moves or less?
The fourth dimension will collapse in upon itself, bitch.
so I used the "flag" button for the first time
they actually have a drop down menu and one of the options is “troll”! cool…
what happens when you flag someone
i’ve used it a few times, but is there any real effect?
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by LanceFister3 on Apr 17, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It shows on their profile and we can see how many flags they have
Use the flag if necessary
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
Oh that's actually not that helpful then
My original troll-o-meter works on this one (# of posts on opposing blog divided by # of posts on own blog)
but this one doesnt have a home blog, apparently
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by LanceFister3 on Apr 17, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
we can see the flags & the reasoning
which helps in decision making.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
You've been warned
if you want to talk about hockey, that’s fine.
If you want to cheerlead about the Canucks, go to www.nucksmisconduct.com instead.
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ahhhhh
do you have to point him in our direction? Can’t you just ban him and NOT tell him we exist?
<3 Boobies!
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Sweet revenge ;)
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by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 17, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
well he should belong to you
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
I'm pretty sure his troll tag said he belonged to you
I was just being considerate and returning him to you. :)
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you must be looking in a mirror
because the only dick and worst kind of fan I see here is you.
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by justforkicks on Apr 17, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
THank god
my dad’s friends left, now I am free to make a sandwich and fucking stew in my own anger. If I hear “I can’t wait to see Scott fight” one more time, I may do a nose dive off the Hancock.
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They're really still talking about Scott
in remotely positive ways?
by transienthawk on Apr 17, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
all night, dude
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I am impressed with your patience
I would’ve either gotten so drunk an ambulance would be necessary, or yelled incoherently at them to stop breathing through their mouths so loudly.
Maybe both.
by transienthawk on Apr 17, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
no no, if you nose dive off the Hancock, how will we get inspirational videos?
throw them off the Hancock.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
good point
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
So Tazer's comments
about exposing the Canucks are not going over well on NM.
They’re calling him a crybaby.
As opposed to their goaltender, who actually fucking cried.
These fucking guys have no shame.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only one I recall crying form either of these teams
is Luongo. Toews did and said what a captain should.
Oh indeed.
I’m not really offended.
More amused.
by transienthawk on Apr 17, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
That was me saying that about Toews and I stand by it. I didn’t find his comments founded at all, unless I got the quote wrong.
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by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
A very good team whose numbers were inflated
by having the weakest strength of schedule in the entire league?
Maybe that’s what he meant?
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I guess it’s hard to know exactly what he meant by it.
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by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Just comes across a certain way when you first hear it.
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by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I kind of took it as
“we’re aware of their weaknesses but haven’t been exploiting them”; I’ve read it much more as Toews taking himself and his own team to task, than as a criticism of the Canucks.
Agreed
And Toews is a lot of things. A crybaby is not among them.
They'll have to pry the cup out of our cold, dead hands
I believe he said "We weren't able to exploit them"
So “weren’t able” is either whining or pointing towards injuries IMO. Because if you “weren’t able” it’s because the other team didn’t allow you to (they’re better or injuries).
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
The actual quote
"Everyone wants to look at the stats all year and talk about what [the Canucks] do well and how good of a team they are," Toews said. "That’s whats frustrating. We’re not exposing them for what they really are. I think a lot of people outside this locker room are giving them too much credit. Maybe we are as well. We know that we can be a better team and we just haven’t shown it yet."
From here. I still read it along the lines of “we know what we should be doing but we’re not getting it done”. But we’re talking about off-the-cuff, unprepared remarks read largely in isolation. There’s all sorts of spin you could try to put on it, but, given that Toews doesn’t have a history of whining of finger-pointing, I’d be surprised if he were starting now.
I must suck at the telephone game
“We know that we can be a better team and we just haven’t shown it yet.”
Well, now would typically be a good time, no?
I know that Toews isn’t a whiner, and yeah, comments often get blown out of proportion, but if Lu would’ve said this last year or the year before, we’d have been all over him – oh, he did and we were?
I’m sure Toews is 100x more frustrated than us. A healthy Hawks team probably makes this one hell of a series. Signing a 2nd line center instead of three 4th liners (Dowell, RJ, Taffe) would’ve helped too.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Except that there is precedent for Toews comments
For one, the Hawks went 2-2 against those sad sacks this year, with 1 being a Hawks dick kicking of them in their barn, and another being a game with atrocious calls.
Second, did you forget the Hawks decimating them the past 2 years? I am 100% with Toews.
"What is icing?"
"Well, uh... icing appen when uh the puck come down... bang, you know, before the other guys, nobody there, you know. My arm go comme ça then the game stop then start up."
by anActiveStick on Apr 18, 2011 3:28 AM CDT up reply actions
This is this year
and this is the playoffs, not the reg season.
Bottom line, if we were winning the series and someone from the Nucks said
We know that we can be a better team than them. We just haven’t shown it yet. . . .That’s what’s frustrating, that we can’t show what we’re capable of as a team right now.without specifying “due to injuries” we’d be laughing at them.
I’m not hating on Toews, just pointing it out.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Toews is saying what he has to say I guess
forget the Canucks, last night’s game was a microcosm of the Hawks season- getting beat in the 3rd period.
I can’t agree with the Captain’s statement here.
We like our people!
Ah, ESPN column has a bit more
“We know that we can be a better team than them. We just haven’t shown it yet. . . .That’s what’s frustrating, that we can’t show what we’re capable of as a team right now.”
(source)
I definitely read that as a self-indictment.
it’s funny how different sources give different reads / takes. Whatevs.
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by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2011 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I won't let it get to me
They are excited, they have a great hockey team, we have done similar things over here. Toews wanted to show he had a little fight left, I am sure the Canucks will use it to motivate themselves.
They will be cheering for him during the next international tournament. Just like we will cheer for Kesler
I still want to know what Tazer means by that comment.
I didn’t see the whole interview so I don’t know what the context was. What is Tazer saying? What is he saying that the Canucks really are? It’s not like him to talk smack.
"Dave was there!"
"Dave's a killer!"
"Dave's a mess."
by Preacher000 on Apr 17, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it does seem out of his character
But as the captain of the team, I would be surprised if he DIDN’T think the Hawks were the better team and just haven’t shown it.
I can’t fault him for that. And I certainly wouldn’t call him a crybaby.
by transienthawk on Apr 17, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
reminds me of last year
when Luongo was saying how the Nucks were a better team, but the Hawks were somehow winning.
shrug I think it’s just a Captain cliche
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Still, kinda out of character
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 17, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
he's frustrated
and thinks their team has the pieces to win. Nothing wrong with that (not that you said there was)
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by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he's really frustrated
this is really the first true team adversity he’s had to face, isn’t it? I mean, he was young when they made him Captain, but no one expected the Hawks to do anything. Then the first year we were serious contenders, it was like the dream team of best friends & buddies going for the prize…and we won.
I think this is the first year he’s had to deal with the idea that we’re mediocre/underachieving.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Why do they even give a shit
given their current position?
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by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
No way I bring him back
Id rather a healthy Dave Bolland next year
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I say we play a bunch of kids
keep the top-flighters, but throw Klink, beach, taffe, whoever out there to get some experience. Can’t be worse than john scott.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 17, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd argue it would be exciting
the kids would come out with fire, and if they get going, imagine the “david v. goliath” type of situation. I’m just having fun with this, but I think playing a couple of them isn’t a bad thing. No bolland, no scott, no pisani. Maybe no dowell either. Dont see how putting kids in over those guys is really unfair?
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 17, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Add Seabrook to that list
I kinda doubt we’ll see him Tuesday.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 17, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Thought he went to the dark room
and came back ok? Isn’t he not allowed back until he’s ok? I don’t know the exact rules, but they were talking about it on VS a little.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 17, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Q didn't want to speak about it in the postgame
Do they make a few “exceptions” in the playoffs? I think maybe. Can’t see how he wasn’t concussed though.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know how he got up
let alone play the rest of the game. That looked almost as bad as the Wiz hit.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I did not think he was selling that hit at all
his eyes rolled up into his head!
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by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
that was Ban's sarcasm
I know it’s usually hard to spot.
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
It's almost too much work following you around in a thread
cleaning up your mess :p
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
ok then that went right over my head.
how can you tell?
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by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
because I remembered what the Ducks announcers said when Wiz hit him
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
oh ok
i’ve got a crap memory so I might need Ban to add a tag going forward :p
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by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe we should create a little sarcasm trademark
is there an emoticon for that?
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
I usually use :P
but im not sure if that is right. I just hope people don’t think I’m licking them all the time or something.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
apparently
(<_<) is
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by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
that's the thing I remember most about that hit
were the ANA announcer going “Is he selling this? I think he’s selling this” as Seabs eyes rolled into the back of his head & you can tell Seabs blacks out for a bit.
If Seabs was selling it, fuck hockey, he should be an actor.
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he has the hair for it
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
seabs and his voluminous har
i’ve always wondered what Keith’s hair looks like when its not plastered down.
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by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
The way he went down was seriously scary
how they could think and actually say that out loud is mind boggling.
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by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
sarcasm, right?
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by LanceFister3 on Apr 18, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Post of the year.
If we get to game 6 or 7 you can reevlauate. I told my buddy on the way home tonight I fear that they panic and put him out there for game 4.
I just want to know who's really running the show.
If it’s Q making the roster choices for the game, John Scott shows he’s an idiot. But I don’t think Q’s an idiot. I’m guessing Little Bowman has more say than Q. The “Kruger coming here was our plan all season” crap was from Stan. Loading the team to the limit with too many players that restricted movement was from Stan. And signing some of these traffic cones in the first place was Stan.
The offseason (which is not here yet!) does NOT give me hope if Stan is making the decisions. Q said last year that game rosters were decided by committee with him and the Bowmans and a couple others in on the discussion. If that’s still the case, we need a new brain trust. (And just to bait all you haters out there, remember, it was Tallon’s talent that won the Cup.)
"Dave was there!"
"Dave's a killer!"
"Dave's a mess."
not to mention
Stan went out and got Scott with some sort of “purpose” in mind…
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe if the reporters in this town asked real questions
we’d have more answers to these type of situations. Too much to ask for I guess.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 17, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
This offseason is the biggest thing the new organization has faced
The first time they have faced adversity and defeat. I do not like they way handled criticism this season. It was very pompous and smug like the Bears always are. They need to put out a good team next year to keep the attendance numbers up. The Bulls are the number one show in town now (rightfully so) and people only have so much disposable income.
You can tell Stan wasn't a good hockey mind
As soon as I saw his first interview, I was disappointed. He really doesn’t seem to know much about hockey and only speaks in generalizations, using vague terms. He may be good with the cap and we may see this a few years from now, but honestly, I have a bachelors in finance and I could have probably done more with the cap room Stan had than he did.
I'm sure he learned nothing
as the son of one of the greatest hockey minds in history.
I don’t like what appears to be Stan’s personality (OK, I think he’s a douche), or the fact that he’s one of the “new breed” of GM’s, but I somehow doubt that he doesn’t have a good hockey mind.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Plus
I’m sure Daddy Bowman checks over everything major that is done, plus some other people. Its a lot like the Presidency, just because he’s top dog doesn’t mean there aren’t 50 other people in on the decisions.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
He might have learned from his father
But he just doesn’t seem like a good GM. I hope I’m wrong though.
Once again it's time to ask all the Stan haters
Just what they would’ve done differently this past off – season. Let’s hear it all, the trades you would have successfully pulled off, and what you would have received in turn. He definitely has some growing pains right now, but I have a hard time believing anyone else could have performed better, given the ridiculous financial constraints he faced and the reality that every other team knew the kind of wall he up against. Talk about being dealt a bad hand, this was a bad hand that all the other players already knew about before the first card was dealt.
Ladd instead of Bolland is my frst thought
But then no center, so as much as I like Ladd, you have to keep Bolland.
Other than that, Scott. No reason to sign him. No reason at all. He brings nothing of value to the team. Might as well have a rookie play, at least there is some potential future value there.
I like this team. They just need healthy players and a better than average center.
What were we talking about?
Agreed
If you read my comments on the pre – game thread yesterday, I was one of the first to point out that Scott dressing was basically a white flag of surrender, he’s just that bad. Terrible signing, no question about it – but he’s not the main reason why this playoff is not going well, just one of a thousand secondary reasons.
I still believe that this team was one piece away (center) from being a solid contender
that, and some more depth. Shouldn’t be too hard to fix what needs to be done in the offseason.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Here's one for y'all "MOAR JOHN SCOTT!"
nyuk nyuk. That’s it, fried, off to work, shit I mean bed.
"Don't look at me in that tone of voice, you've gotta BE the puck, Johnny"
Bob McKenzie with some insight into blindside hits
I was too lazy to type it all out (even with the magic of copy/paste), so its in this image
Its a screenshot from my twitter feed, so start at the bottom one and work your way up.
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but Seabrook didn't even have the puck
I would think if Torres tried to play the puck and incidentally hit Seabrook it would be one thing. But the puck went past Seabrook – without him touching it – and Torres didn’t even make an attempt to touch it, just went to lay the hit. If this ends up legal then I don’t even know.
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by justforkicks on Apr 17, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
My dad was curious about the refs call on torres so he checked something out
The same two refs who didn’t call that penalty on Stoll at the sj/la game were the same to assholes who called the torres penalty a 2 min.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 17, 2011 11:47 PM CDT reply actions
Legit question
The Torres hit on Seabrook. I would have called a 5 minute major, but afterwords, I was having a nice internal debate:
In the current climate of the NHL, should that have been a Game Mis, and as Murray suggested, should there be a suspension?
Personally I think that 3-4 years a go that is a legal hit, but I also think that if I’m wearing the zebra suit, I probably call a 5 minute major on it at least. Given that a Game Mis was not thrown, I can’t see a suspension for that
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They just suspended Bobby Ryan for a foot stomp that nobody saw except TSN. So with that, it’s conceivable that Torres will get suspended for that.
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This will be debated a lot in all circles I'm sure
but I have to disagree with the idea that its not a penalty 3 years ago (irrelevant to the discussion as it may be). It was interference, no matter where Torres was targeting. The puck clearly wasn’t there yet, and he made no effort to play the puck in the slightest. Only legal body play there is pinning/tying seabs up.
Anyway, its certainly a penalty now, and given the intent to blow him up, the targeting the head, the clear contact to the head, that has to be 5. Seabs got up quick and played the rest of the game, so the game misconduct is certainly debatable unless the rules don’t give any leeway on that.
For the suspension, there doesn’t have to be any penalty called on the play to give a suspension, we’ve seen it before this year already. So the lack of a Game Misconduct doesn’t really have anything to do with the suspension part I don’t think. I say at least 6 games (given past history)
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 17, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
If the player gets up & continues playing
has no bearing on the penalty. Eberle got right up & continued playing & Torres got 5 and the game
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Not true at all
I don’t know the NHL rulebook, but I can tell you for a fact that several other rulebooks (USA Hockey, NFHS, NCAA) say specifically if injury occurs you have automatic penalties/severities. In addition, there is a subjective human side to this. If the guy breaks his neck, are you gonna give the same penalty as someone who just takes the hit and moves on? Maybe, but maybe not.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I get that it's impossible to be 100% accurate in using inference
to decide if it could have caused serious injury… but I’d like some effort at least — otherwise you’re not creating much of a deterrent.
I'd like to agree, and maybe I do agree (I'm not completely sure exactly what you said)
but I’m just trying to give perspective on the “culture” of officiating’s response to that type of play. A major penalty is an absolutely HUGE swing, especially in a playoff game of this magnitude. You better be absolutely sure it was worth a major or your job is gone. If the guy pops back up, its a really tough sell to call it a major. Should you in this particular case? Yeah, probably. Does that mean it happens? No.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
The times are a changin'
Yes. It should have been a major.
Part of the frustration probably comes from losing Dave Bolland to a similar hit. The league suspended Kubina for 2 games. Torres, coming off a 4 game suspension should get some sort of lengthy penalty if any sanity were involved in this process. The officials could have ensured this had they tossed him from the game.
The NHL is not serious about headshots and concussions.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
"if any sanity were involved in this process."
And therein lies the problem. Sanity from the NHL offices? You’re kidding right?
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"Dave's a mess."
by Preacher000 on Apr 17, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought for sure it would be Game Mis given the focus on headshots
when only two minutes were dealt, I was extremely confused
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
You should've heard Foley
AS SOON as it happened, he said “and he’s going to be suspended again.” Obviously he was livid when it was called a 2 minute minor.
I wish I would have. Forgot to record the game before I left.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
My biggest problem with the play
is that the puck was in the area and Torres totally ignored it just to hit Seabs. That’s a penalty no matter what.
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
THis is true
I was considering the hit on its own, not in relation to the play
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, lost in all this headshot stuff
is the fact that people practically don’t even talk about whether the puck was in play anymore on these…
Just like I did
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
He left his fucking feet. He extended his elbow. What more needs to be said.
A fucking bum nearly decapitated one of the games young stars. It will be some epic bullshit if that insignificant little fuck isnt given a lengthly fucking suspension.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 17, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw the arm tucked
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed, I dont think he stuck out his elbow
but his elbow did make contact
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by LanceFister3 on Apr 17, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
As pointed out on NHL network
his stick was up. No intent on the puck whatsoever. The refs totally blew the call.
"Dave was there!"
"Dave's a killer!"
"Dave's a mess."
by Preacher000 on Apr 17, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
definitely agree that it was blown call and very dirty
but the elbow wasnt a big issue to me
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by LanceFister3 on Apr 18, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I actually thought it was his shoulder that went into Sebs' head.
"Dave was there!"
"Dave's a killer!"
"Dave's a mess."
by Preacher000 on Apr 18, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Me too
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 18, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure it is the shoulder into the head
which still makes it a headshot.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
A shoulder to the head is far less obvious
than when someone does their best Bertuzzi impression.
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 18, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
He appeared to lower his shoulder
At minimum, Torres made zero attempt to remove his elbow from the trajectory — meaning Seab’s skull.
They'll have to pry the cup out of our cold, dead hands
Sean from NM had this still pic from it
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
I was certain that the nHL would throw the book at Raffi on that until Bob McKenzie mentioned the whole “behind the net” thing. Even so, I’m more shocked that Raffi comes back from a four game suspension and is that reckless RIGHT AWAY
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by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
With all due respect
Why would you be shocked that a guy who laid that hit on Eberle in a meaningless game would do something like he did tonight in a meaningful one?
They'll have to pry the cup out of our cold, dead hands
Because he’s been crushing guys cleanly all season. I thought Eberle was an anomaly and we wouldn’t see something like this again
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by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
To me it's not so much the hit
but on replay you can clearly see Torres doesn’t care about playing the puck at all (stick wasn’t even on the ice) and just targeted Seabs.
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
but on replay you can clearly see Torres doesn’t care about playing the puck at all (stick wasn’t even on the ice) and just targeted Seabs.
So??? There’s no rule against that
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by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
sounds like headhunting to me
When you lay a hit like that, no stick on the ice, and target the head.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Apr 18, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
You would be right if Seabrook had the puck
but he doesn’t, so there is a rule against it. Interference. Add to that the fact that he launched his shoulder at Seabs’ temple and you’ve got reason for major+game+suspension.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Isn't it a penalty to lay out a player that doesn't have puck possession?
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
I understand that, I was just saying that Torres doesn’t have to go for the puck. He can hit Seabrook if Seabrook has possession. I was disagreeing with what stacie said in that regard.
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by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2011 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions
That is true
but did Seabs have possession? He never touched the puck either.
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
Rule 48
Rule 48 – Illegal Check to the Head
48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A lateral or blind side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact is not permitted.
48.2 Minor Penalty – There is no provision for a minor penalty for this rule.
48.3 Major Penalty – For a violation of this rule, a major penalty shall be assessed (see 48.4).
48.4 Game Misconduct – An automatic game misconduct penalty shall be assessed whenever a major penalty is assessed under this rule.
48.5 Match Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent with an illegal check to the head.
48.6 Fines and Suspensions – Any player who incurs a total of two (2) game misconducts under this rule, in either regular League or playoff games, shall be suspended automatically for the next game his team plays. For each subsequent game misconduct penalty the automatic suspension shall be increased by one game.
If deemed appropriate, supplementary discipline can be applied by the Commissioner at his discretion (refer to Rule 28).
The fourth dimension will collapse in upon itself, bitch.
Soorry. I digressed.
Many rules have grey areas within them that allow refs to factor in intent. The relevancy is that RT effectively eliminated practically all other intentions from his action by not maneuvering for any other hockey play. I suspect the 2 minutes was a result of the ref thinking there was some intent to battle for the puck (as he should have since he was in the offensive zone on the boards with position to setup an excellent scoring chance), but the replay shows a completely premeditated and indefensible violation of rule 48. Even if Seabs had touched the puck, it would have been a blindside target of the head.
The fourth dimension will collapse in upon itself, bitch.
Seabrook didn't even touch the puck
it went right past him. So Torres can hit him if he has possession, but Seabrook didn’t have it.
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by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Well
I suspect that he will be suspended. However, apparently you really don’t need him that much. You might want to ask AV to sit him when he gets back.
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M’eh, the NHL might do that for him
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by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I saw it live and Im sure you've seen the video so Ill take as fact he didn't stick it out.
But boy it sure looked like he intended to knock Seabrook right the fuck out.
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by HjammerTime on Apr 18, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Same, when I saw it live, I thought he raised the arm
but the replays were fairly clear. either way, stick was up, and the offended players back was turned and he did not play the puck.
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 18, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Torres can still make a big hit
on the play without endangering Seabrook. Its the type of hit (legal or not) that needs to come out of the game. Suspension deserved. I just have no clue what the NHL will do.
I watched his hit on Eberle when it happened, & that was the exact same fucking hit.
He mad no attempt to play the puck which he easily could have done. 5 minute major & a game misconduct just like he got for his hit on Eberle. How he only got 2 if a mystery!
He will get another suspension I think
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The worst thing I think about the whole thing is you know if Seabs had stayed down longer they would have called a harsher penalty.
by girlphoenix on Apr 17, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, 3-4yrs ago that would be legal
but the game has changed and the rules have to adjust. I think it should’ve been a major. Still think it’s possible he gets a suspension for a game or two.
What bothers me is the people saying that the game is becoming “soft” because of these types of calls. Those hits are dangerous in the new NHL. The risk of ending someone’s career & having them need to sit in a dark room for the rest of their life is just too large.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
I don't think it makes the game "soft"
though I do think that it takes a bit of the responsibility off the players to take care of themselves on the ice
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 17, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
a lot like checking from behind/boarding a few years back
when everyone was getting paralyzed. Players turn towards the boards now in ways that would’ve been completely stupid to do 10 years ago.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Is it just me
or were there worse hits during this game than Torres/Seabs that weren’t reprimanded.
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For example?
(aside from Kane laying out Hamhuis with that blindside flying drop kick ;)
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions
(you would like that) :P
Hamhuis on Krueger comes to mind. And there were zebras with full sight of that one and it didn’t get called.
And I recall both Hjammer and Oreskovich with big ones too.
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Let's just say that this series hasn't been called too tightly
Particularly concerning the games in VAN – that was fairly ludicrous, and we saw what happens when they decide to actually call something, like last night’s tally.
As a proportion of the hits being dished out by both sides
I’d say it’s been pretty badly (loosely) called both ways.
I wonder
what version of officiating will happen tomorrow.
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by eightyseven on Apr 18, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought the Hamhuis/Kruger hit
was perfectly legal, and just an awesome check along the boards.
Poor little Kruger, though.
by transienthawk on Apr 19, 2011 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Was he
trying to duck? =/
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I came very close to flagging this.
Had he scored the game winner then O.K., but not after an elbow to an unsuspecting player’s head. That my friend is just classless.
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by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 17, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you freakin serious?
/sends alms to the Karma gods.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
what is wrong with you
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by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Suck a giant bag of assholes.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Apr 18, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Or more fitting
a giant can of these
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I've banned Go Canucks Go until he joins and comments on Nucks Misconduct
Let this serve as the proverbial head on a pike for any and all Canuck trolls who want to dance on the grave. We have a good relationship with NM and the vast majority of their posters. You’re making your fanbase and that blog look bad.
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Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
agreed
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by Sean Zandberg on Apr 18, 2011 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank you
While I think most of us have pretty thick skins, dickishness has no place here right now.
They'll have to pry the cup out of our cold, dead hands
We see this a lot with various Habs trolls on PPP. They just go and make a new username.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Apr 18, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
jeffgm?
Win it for Manny.
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 18, 2011 4:35 AM CDT up reply actions
the biggest difference i saw between the Eberle hit and Seabrook hit...
when Eberle got hit in less then 10 seconds someone was flying in to fuck the shit out of Torres, when Seabrook got hit i think i saw Campoli come in and hug Torres. What the fuck is this? one of the Top 5 things to do this offseason is find someone who can hit, fight, and actually SKATE!
So, you wanted no powerplay
with the potential loss of Seabs for the game/series? Because if someone comes in and grabs Torres to fight that’s probably what you get thanks to the instigator and the minor penalty call on Torres. That’s exactly what Vancouver wants in that situation.
Games are won by putting the little black thing inside the big red pipes. Not by breaking your hand on someone’s face.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think that's the argument cheese is trying to make
But a lot of our guys don’t seem to stand up for each-other like they did last year, and that’s just not how it should be. You have to stick up for your team-mates and let the opposition know that dirty hits won’t go unpunished.
Then you take a number
wait till he gets the puck, and light his ass up. If he still doesn’t get it, do it until he does. Its legal, and it sends the message.
Plus, in the “new NHL” the officials are supposed to do the punishing, not the players. That’s why the instigator rule is idiotic.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
IMO, Seab's was a target because he is the only physical presence on the team.
Tee him up, and who comes to his defense? We a roster full of 6’0", 175lb players. I hate the old goon game, and hated Scott’s roster spot last night. But the league is moving to 6’3" and 215lb and fast. We have too many small players with no presence.
by NiemiNation on Apr 18, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, it's going the other way, believe it or not
Pre – lockout, players like Kane and St. Louis would have had a much more difficult time to get established, because all of the scratching, grabbing and clawing would have negated their quickness, because their stature was too small to counter it. Look at the trendlines – it was getting so out of hand that Philly had the Legion of Doom goon squad, headed up by (non – goon) Lindros. Post – lockout, the league realized that they needed more speed and quickness, hence the allowance of two – line passes and new rules preventing the slug players and trap systems. When even Lindros had to retire because of one too many hits to the head, that was the end of this kind of game.
Agree with your insight, but evolution is creating kids that can do both.
It’s amazing to me to see how big and skilled some of these players are now becoming. I know that they don’t grow them everywhere, but I’d love to have a Shea Weber on our blueline.
by NiemiNation on Apr 18, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Weber is a freaking monster.
How big are Kane’s balls to even go out there against these behemoths?
What were we talking about?
nah he's chickenshit
We like our people!
by cliffkoroll on Apr 18, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
and to go out there
and quite often completely school them.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Am I in the minority in thinking that people are being too hard on both the Blackhawks and Canucks?
People here are calling out the core of this team, when they’ve been through about as much as hockey players can possibly go through, mentally and physically, in a two year span. The drain of the Olympics, then the effort it takes to win the cup, then the battle all this season just to qualify for the playoffs after losing so much of their depth. Can you really blame the team for not having the energy to win some of these games? There are reasons why there aren’t dynasties anymore, and the Blackhawks are experiencing a bunch of them. Why there are a few people here who go as far to say that core pieces should be traded, young players who have proven that they can win it all, players who are possibly still not yet in their physical primes, is beyond me. Let them have a few months of rest and come back with a better supporting cast and a few lessons learned from this season.
And as for the Canucks, I don’t think anyone should be happy whenever their team loses, but if there’s one team Blackhawk fans should be able to say “Okay, let them have their day in the sun”, it’s the Canucks. This isn’t some team that’s dominated you in the recent past, it isn’t some eternal rival. This is a team the Blackhawks have utterly humiliated and destroyed in the last two playoffs. This is a team that has haunted Vancouver fans for years. If anything, the Canucks are the team that will have the fewest bragging rights over the Blackhawks. If they win this series, they’re one for the last three, if they win the cup, Chicago already did that last year.
I’m sorry, but getting mad at the Blackhawks and hating the Canucks in this situation is like getting mad because the most popular guy in school, after beating the crap out of a nerd for two years, showed up one day hung over and the nerd was able to knock him out. Just let the kid in glasses have his day in the sun, and don’t be so hard on the prom king.
That analogy doesn't work at all
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Apr 18, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Better analogy:
getting mad at the Blackhawks and hating the Canucks in this situation is like building the best soapbox derby car you could possibly afford using all your money and time, only to have the rich kid buy an engineered soapbox derby car that also has a secret engine that the officials can’t detect and don’t care to investigate why it goes 110 MPH while you can only must 12 MPH. And then the girl you’ve always liked sees you picking your nose and totally stops calling you.
Just like that.
The fourth dimension will collapse in upon itself, bitch.
Kane is a drunk/druggie/all-around-party animal and always shows up hung over
and that is why we’re losing.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, and we're also losing because we don't have Buff and Eager, and JScott doesn't get enough minutes
does that help?
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm 1/3 closer to being able to tell
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
We should trade Toews
if you don’t get to 3/3 with that…
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Well if you would have said
lets move the team to Winnipeg I would have been convinced
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
I hear there's a big hockey contingency in Puerto Rico...
plus they probably have better ice down there than at the UC
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Contingency?
I don’t think that’s the right word…there’s my college edumacation rearing its ugly head again…
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe I meant constituancy?
I don’t really know, its late and I need sleep. I meant (as a joke) that there are a lot of people willing to pay to watch hockey in Puerto Rico. Fuck this, I’m going to bed.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions
seriously?
why didn’t I find any of those people when I worked in Puerto Rico?
anyway, it’s late. g’night ITE!
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
I'd take 2/3rds, Buff and even Eager
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Buff or Eager is what ails 'em
I think it is some of last year’s studs not playing up to par, and a lack of more than one good center. Don’t think having buff or eager gets us any farther in this dance.
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions
LOLZ
After all the “somebody needs to get their azz in Lu face” comments (not saying from you!), now we don’t need that.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, yes you are
Hating the Canucks comes easy. If they were beating the ’Hawks with talented play, there would be a lot less hate. But when they resort to channeling Bobby Probert, f ’em.
Yes, the ‘Hawks are tired. Didn’t get any time off this summer, the cap issues forced the team to shuffle around, and they look like they’re rebuilding. Fine, it happens. But retarded decisions on the ice are still retarded decisions. Duncs has been doing that all season. For $5.5mil, I expect him to show something.
It's all fun and games until Crosby cries. Then it's frackin' hilarious.
I agree but
I realize you expect a lot from a 27 year old making 5.5 million, but a lot of guys have a stumble year after a career season. You overthink your game, you get too confident, you try to take too much on yourself.
And are the Canucks winning because they’re “channeling Bob Probert”? They’ve been physical but until Torres threw his suspendable hit tonight, I don’t think they’ve been what you would call dirty, and if anything, the Probertish dirty hit tonight cost their team a goal, it didn’t help them win a game. I’d also add that teams that go far in the playoffs generally have a few players that play on the edge, at the risk of throwing bad hits, case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Vz3PZw4DY
That really doesn't wash
Hard hits are one thing, leaping about 20 feet into the boards with both of your skates extended above the ice like Cirque du Soleil is goonish. They got away with that crap in
VAN, but started getting called on all of it last evening. Try that in the next round and see how far you get.
Are the Sedins allowed out in sunlight???
by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Apr 18, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
No. Rumor has it they have cameos in the next Twilight movie.
It's all fun and games until Crosby cries. Then it's frackin' hilarious.
It's called "Breaking Hawks"
Sorry, I couldn’t resist and I know it’s not that funny.
To be honest I thought after spanking us two playoffs in a row you’d take being down by three games a little easier.
by Canuckelhead on Apr 18, 2011 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I would have expected a Nuck fan of all people to know that it is never easy
But, it’s not over yet, and with the Nucks luck over the years, don’t be surprised if Bobby Lu blows out a groin or something and Schneider totally wets the bed.
"What is icing?"
"Well, uh... icing appen when uh the puck come down... bang, you know, before the other guys, nobody there, you know. My arm go comme ça then the game stop then start up."
by anActiveStick on Apr 18, 2011 3:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Can dish it out but can't take it
Keep in mind where you are in the future – you often skirt the edge, and that was over it.
would it be any easier for you
really? come on now
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you, Hobbes.
/shrug
As frustrated as I am with this year, I still have the summer of 2010.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
and my Stanley Cup DVD
and my One Goal book and all my memories
There's always hope you whiny little bitches.
You are going to drink the red kool-aid and like it.
I still have the newspapers from the following day
I came back home early the next day still drunk and full of joy. My sister knew how much I love the Hawks and saved every newspaper for me. Still have them sitting in my room.
Fuck...
You know, last year and the year before, I’d come to this blog and read heady comments about how awesome the Hawks were and I couldn’t really argue it ; they were fucking awesome.
Now that the shoe is on the other foot, many of you are saying you’d rather see the Wings (or whoever else) win. Why? Why wouldn’t you cheer for a wicked team that has had a remarkable year and for an organization with a GM who made some extremely savvy moves and set positive benchmarks with regard t the treatment of his players? The Torres hit was shit and he will rightfully be suspended. The team is unreal. The city has never had a cup. And yet, you’d cheer for Detroit? Fuck, I screamed for Chicago all the way through the Final last year and was happy to see Toews take the cup from Bettman’s Womanly hands.
Please reconsider.
Here's why
Bieksa, Torres, Burrows, Edler, Vigneault, et all, don’t deserve to besmirch the chalice.
"What is icing?"
"Well, uh... icing appen when uh the puck come down... bang, you know, before the other guys, nobody there, you know. My arm go comme ça then the game stop then start up."
by anActiveStick on Apr 18, 2011 3:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But a guy who beats up a cab driver and a poor loser do?
by Canuckelhead on Apr 18, 2011 10:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So you're going to bring up private life
In order to make an erroneous point about on – ice behavior? How many times have we had to endure the many stories about “he may be a goon on the ice but a very caring citizen in real life.” Tell us, how long has it been since you’ve stopped beating your wife?
Waylon, Bertuzzi played in VAN. Stil top 10 in scoring.
Harold Snepsts is in the ring of honor (honour) or some such Bullshit.
What were we talking about?
I'll take a goon on and a gentleman off the ice any day.
The guy whose an asshole off and on the ice. No thanks.
Beating my wife? Maybe you need to put your life in perspective dude. Accusing me of beating my wife because your team is down 3-0 in the NHL playoffs? What’s wrong with you.
by Canuckelhead on Apr 18, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
You must have never heard that expression
He wasn’t accusing you of actually doing it.
They'll have to pry the cup out of our cold, dead hands
There's an expression
Tell us, how long has it been since you’ve stopped beating your wife?
Must be a Chicago thing.
by Canuckelhead on Apr 18, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Tell us about Kaner being a chickenshit
Because that was a real favorite from one of your regulars here a few days ago. That seems to be in line from your other criticism.
I'm just saying
Questioning the integrity of our players is pretty rich coming from a team that won with it’s fair share of guys who “played on the edge” and have off ice character issues.
Besides, all we have is the Canucks, can’t you see that? You guys have the Bulls and the White Sox/Cubs, maybe the Bears. When the Canucks lose all we can do is moan about it all summer.
by Canuckelhead on Apr 18, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
He doesn't get out much
But he knows his hockey, no question about it.
It's a joke - derrrrr
This is a oft – told joke about reporters attempting to get politicians to say something they don’t mean, by asking leading questions that cannot be answered without incriminating themselves. Please look up sarcasm and irony, they seem to be lost on you.
Read down the post and look at some of the comments
and you might see why I was confused. It’s gone a little overboard over here.
by Canuckelhead on Apr 18, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Happened 2 years ago and nothing since
not excusing what he did but let it go
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
eh, this series isn't over.
Ranger fan here. You guys are giving up too fast.
The Canucks – a freakish team with dirty players (Burrows speared Marc Staal in the balls in the one game we played them), annoying twins, a weird fucking name and kind of creepy fans – have done nothing yet. They have to win FOUR times, not three.
The Hawks will rally around Seabrook and murder them in Game 4. Then it’s a matter of getting it back to Chicago. You pull that off, the media angle changes to the Hawks as the comeback kids and the Nucks gagging on the pressure – AGAIN. Get it to a Game 7 and anything can happen.
"To everybody else we're underdogs, but we go in thinking we can handle any team in the NHL."
Brandon Prust, #8, New York Rangers
by Joe1969 on Apr 18, 2011 2:47 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Those
annoying twins! Curse them and their irritating qualities!
Win it for Manny.
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
LW Daniel Sedin #22: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain and 2011 Art Ross Trophy Winner
G Roberto Luongo and G Cory Schneider: 2011 William Jennings Trophy Winners
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 18, 2011 4:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I love how you have all the Canucks awards as your signature and yet the one award my ’Hawks won trumps all of yours.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Huh?
I don’t remember ever mentioning the Hawks winning the Stanley Cup last year. When did I bring that up? Oh wait is this one of those impromptu pissing contests?
Win it for Manny.
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
LW Daniel Sedin #22: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain and 2011 Art Ross Trophy Winner
G Roberto Luongo and G Cory Schneider: 2011 William Jennings Trophy Winners
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 18, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Nuh uh!
Win it for Manny.
C Henrik Sedin #33: Vancouver Canucks Captain, 2010 Art Ross Trophy Winner and 2010 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner.
LW Daniel Sedin #22: Vancouver Canucks Alternate Captain and 2011 Art Ross Trophy Winner
G Roberto Luongo and G Cory Schneider: 2011 William Jennings Trophy Winners
Nucks Misconduct's official black guy and first line center (Twitter's 1st line center also).
by Chuckles Canuckles on Apr 18, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
"a freakish team with dirty players"
That should be rec’d forever.
I particularly enjoyed
“freakish.”
Rock over London,
Rock on Chicago.
Diet Pepsi,
UH HUH!!!!
http://rock-on-chicago.blogspot.com/
What does a New Yorker
know about hockey. Go cheer for the Yankees or whatever.
by Canuckelhead on Apr 18, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Well
we do have to win four, not three.
Coconuts go.™
"Things may come to those who wait, but only what’s left behind by those who hustle."
by eightyseven on Apr 18, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I was kidding
I love New York. Hate the Rangers but love New York.
by Canuckelhead on Apr 18, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
It's not time for ledge jumping...
but I only mean that in the most literal way. Like, I probably will opt not to kill myself by jumping off a high ledge or cliff type thing.
The season though, is dead. It is an ex-parrot.
Rock over London,
Rock on Chicago.
Diet Pepsi,
UH HUH!!!!
http://rock-on-chicago.blogspot.com/
No, no, it's resting
It’s a remarkable parrot, the Norwegian Blue.
POOOLLLLLLYYYYY!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
hehehe...
I can always count on CNS to get a Python shoutout.
Rock over London,
Rock on Chicago.
Diet Pepsi,
UH HUH!!!!
http://rock-on-chicago.blogspot.com/
Well............What are we missing?
this play-off series represents our season. We earned 97 points this season despite being out-muscled many a game.
I really believe the massive turn over this team went thru killed the chemistry. 8 plus guys playing thier full year. The super star core is still young, I am looking foward to next year.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
A center, a big ass in front of the net, and Ladd
We’re a doughnut team
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
Who are our candidate "big ass" for next year?
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
It's over and who really cares if they manage to win 1 game
would it just be better to complete the sweep and go home Wed?
So it’s on to the off-season. When’s the cap number announced or was it already? It should be fun figuring out a roster for the 2nd straight year of the cap-ocalypse. This after Stan foolishly decided to give Seabrook another $2.3M on an already cap-strapped team.
Should see 1 if not 2 of this vaunted “core” be moved this off-season. Can’t wait until June 15th.
Just win the next game...!
Speaking of the power play...
Perhaps Mike Kitchen gets the axe? He’s supposedly in control of that unit and that never seemed to get it together despite being 4th at the end. I also heard that Mikey Haviland might be a hot candidate for a head coach job opening, so maybe two new assistants are in order. I’d hate to see Haviland go though, I kinda like him as Q’s right-hand man.
everytime they intervew Kitchen I fall asleep.........
.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Would like to see Haviland get The Hawks job
Give Q an ambassadorship. Q is a good coach and nothing he has done outside of dressing Scott, points to a firing, but I like Havi. Think he is a great coach
Speaking of Scott. Can he be released during a game? I’ll bet the answer is no, because I think he would have been last night. Watch the replay of his penalty. Head shot?
What were we talking about?
Kitch was in charge of the PK early in the year
Then it went to shit and they put Havi on it, and Kitch got the PP. Then the PP went to shit while the PK improved under Havi. Sense a pattern here? I hope they do.
They'll have to pry the cup out of our cold, dead hands
Wings fan here
Hope the Hawks make a series out of it. I was hoping for the wings and hawks to meet in the playoffs this year. Sadly, it doesn’t look like its in the cars. Those two teams always have the best series’s, even going going back to the early 90’s. Hell, even though the wings won in 09 in 5 games, two or three of them went to overtime. That was a good series. Other than the sedins and kesler the canucks are trash and their coach can’t direct his way out of the streets of chicago let alone direct an NHL team. I despise coaches who bitch about shit after the game (boudreau, therien, this guy). And Torres is an asshole. He needs to be sit down before he kills someone. Same thing with Shane Doan. But because its Doan, its an “emotional, physical play” instead of charging. Anyway, long story boring…..come back on the canucks. The wings want to play you.
Since nobody has responded to your comments here
Thanks, still would love to see a rematch in the playoffs between our two teams. It’ll be epic!
Thanks
a Playoff series between our teams would be great based on the intensity a regular season game can bring!
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Apr 18, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
"Hossa!!! you better be sick or dead in there I shit you not!!"
Where’d you go? Why have you forsaken us?
I’m not going to go all the way into Cookville, but if he doesn’t start producing, we’ll NEVER win another cup with him on the roster. His salary is just too big for him not to show up on the scorers sheet. Two post-season’s in a row is the start of a trend. Sure last year he did a lot of things that didn’t show up, and yeah he scored a few goals. But for the most part he was kept of the sheet and with a team stacked with talent, that wasn’t a problem. This year, he’s been a disappointment. A major disappointment. In fact, it’s even worse than that.
I think Frolic has made a bigger impact in these games than Hossa has, which is nauseating.
Face it none of core superstars produced on the scoresheet.
Young team, lots of turn over, and no team chemistry. Still say 97 pts and playing the best team in hockey tough are get starts for next year.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Yes and no
Part of the issue with him is that he has issues scoring in droves when playing with centers who aren’t legitimate, established top 6 players.
Also he is 2 years removed from 30 so don’t expect another 82 game season or more than PPG stats from him.
He will be around for another 10 years and if they don’t find another competent player or two to play with him he will continue to “underachieve and underwhelm”
Still a very good player but IMO not worth the coin they are paying him for how long they are stuck with him. Though I don’t really think its fair to throw him under the bus at this point.
by TurdFurgeson on Apr 18, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I understand a scoring slump
I do. I’m not throwing him under the bus, and I understand he does other things that don’t show up on the score sheet, but frankly, he’s not doing those things. He’s been completely invisible. That is not acceptable. It’s just not. Kane has a couple points, which sucks, but he’s been all over the ice. Hossa has been a no-show so far.
I'm not disagreeing it is just that
watching him the last 2 years with the Hawks and 1 with Scum: it is an unrealistic expectation to think he will take over a game and all by his lonesome win you a big game IMO.
He just isn’t that kind of player. He will get his PPG or close to it during the regular season but unless it is Crosby or Malkin distracting the other team you wont see a big playoff performance from him. Ever.
If anyone is to blame it is front office for setting unrealistic expectations that some of these players can’t live up to.
by TurdFurgeson on Apr 18, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmm
Actually, HE IS that of player. I remember game 4 (?) Western Semis… he singlehandedly beat us. And how many times through out the year has took over a game? A bunch. How many times did he dominate play last year’s Cup run? A bunch. He gets into his IMHAYN mode and it’s fuck or walk.
So far, he’s doing nothing. That’s why I said… he better be sick or dead.
Ok so one game the whole 2008-2009
playoff run where Detroit had one of the deepest and best teams in the NHL of which he never had to be the best player on.
Which is my point, you are expecting entirely to much from him. He is actually pursuing the puck well and winning board battles like he usually does. Playing with random, unestablished players does not help.
No where near playing with the likes of Zetterberg or Datsyuk or Crosby or Malkin. He hasn’t had to be the best player on the ice in any type of critical situation ever there was always someone else to carry that load.
So to expect him now to make that type of impact being on the tail end of his prime is an unrealistic expectation and you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
by TurdFurgeson on Apr 18, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, it's the morning after the game and now I feel...
like crap. Still. I hate it when the Hawks lose, and it’s worse to lose to THIS team. How bad has it gotten? People on here are actually rooting for the Scum. All is just wrong with the universe when you have diehard Hawks fans rooting for Scum. I’ll “officially” cheer for the Sharks because of Pavelski (my kid is in his hockey camp this summer) but if the Hawks are done, I’m hoping for a team from the East to win it. Anyone but the Nucks. And the Scum.
But the Hawks aren’t quite done yet. GO HAWKS!
"Dave was there!"
"Dave's a killer!"
"Dave's a mess."
Regarding the dressing of Scott tonight,
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
It could be argued that his ineptness led to the int penalty which then changes the game.
Sadly, we’ll never know because Q did dress him.
What were we talking about?
The Seabrook hit made me sick
From our seats, I saw it coming. Skating behind the net looking back- bad idea.
Of course, Torres absolutely unloaded on him. Very fucking cheap, but if he wasn’t an idiot, he could have delivered a rocking, but clean, hit.
When Seabs came back out, he was wobbly like I’ve never seen him. And they kept running at him- knocked down a couple more times on hits he would ordinarily brush off.
The Canucks came into this series to play physical and target the Hawks skill players- a good strategy against the Hawks. But as the series goes on, they are becoming more and more asshattish- with the charging, the leaving the feet, the elbows.
This surprises me- at this point, an injury would be much worse for the Canucks, but this is how they want to play it, so…
I would use one criterion for Tuesday’s line-up- gimme guys that can skate and hit. I don’t know which IceHogs (if any) fill the bill, but suit ‘em up. Hell, call up that idiot Beach if it’s not too late.
Target the misshapen-skulled twin freaks. Not dirty, but hockey. Go after ’em all game. Give ’em something to remember.
I know this sounds like the panic button, but at this point, the Hawks are quite the longshot, no, and I want my pound of flesh.
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by cliffkoroll on Apr 18, 2011 9:07 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
the decision by Torres not to leave his feet
….saved Seabs life, he had Seabs lined up perfectly
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
WTF?
What, like his dirty hit that concussed a premiere player is something to be admired now, because he didn’t actually kill him? You have a bizarre sense of morality, that much is discerned. I’m with the meatballs on this one, if this is what they want, let’s give it to them, in spades. Put the twins into the seats if you get the chance, and take Kesler’s head off next time he goes into the boards.
Seabrook
should not have been on the ice in the 3rd, IMHO.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
I guarantee he wouldnt have played if it was a regular season game
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by LanceFister3 on Apr 18, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter.
It’s his life.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
Scott's penalty was a BS call by the refs
….some of the shots both sides unloaded were deserving of mis-conducts. Scotts was ridiculous.
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Let me just say
I got damn tired of the Troy Murray apology tour with Memelo last night on WGN’s postgame show.
Yes, Troy, they were working hard. Big fucking deal. They weren’t working smart, which has been a huge part of the problem all year.
And for all the meatheads clamoring for Scott, how’d that work out for you? Worked out pretty much exactly how I figured it would, although I will readily admit that Scott is a much better skater/player now than at the start of the season (which of course still isn’t saying much). But the ridiculous part is — once you’ve dressed him — at least use him for the one thing he’s actually good at and send him after Torres or Bieksa.
Queneville might have had his worst game as a coach last night. From the Scott decision(s) to the TO (really? you need a TO to explain to your team how to handle a 5 on 3 in the 85th game of the season? Oh, because they were tired? Fuck you.).
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
I had no problem with the TO whatsoever.
Q wanted our best players on the ice for the entirety of the 5-3. It wasn’t a bad TO at all.
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other thoughts
Luongo has kicked Kane’s ass this series- a bit of revenge for the Hattie that left Bob face-down blubbering into the ice a couple years ago.
I thought Hammer played very well last night.
Since his 2006-07 season, Hossa’s trajectory is starting to look like the stock market in 1929. I love the guy, and any comparison to Havlat is totally Monday-morning QBing, but damn, Marty knew how to rise to the moment.
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Luongo has played well.
My kids coach is related to the former Wild coach. When he got the job, and they acquired Havlat, Trent Yawney told him Havlat was a coach killer. He sat out their last game injured – upper body – head case. Havlat is interested in Havlat. I like watching Havlat play hockey, but I’m glad he’s not on this team. Hossa will do at least whatever it takes to win. I honestly don’t think Hossa cares who scores or how, so long as they win. This is why the Hossa / Havlat move was good.
What were we talking about?
by laaarmer on Apr 18, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Marty Lapointe never had to punch Marian Hossa in the fact to straighten him out.
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all fair points
no way is Havlat in the same league as Hossa as a two-way player.
But damn, remember that Calgary series two years ago? I don’t care if he was doing it outta selfish reasons or not, JHC carried this team through some big games. I’d just like to see Hoss, once, do this in a playoff game. He’s had 25 chances so far.
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This story follows along the lines of the Sam and McClure stories about Kane’s off-ice drinking problems “a friend of a friend told me” bullfunky.
I’m sorry larmer but this story sounds more like two guys that are upset about losing their jobs and blaming one individual unfairly. Nothing more in my eyes.
Havlat was a far better teammate and clutch performer than what Hossa has ever shown here.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Hossa won the fucking Stanley Cup. Havlat took money.
I did not want to be the name dropper, but it is only once removed from the Wild coaches mouth.
Havlat is a pussy! He kicked a guy with his skate. The players took care of him and now he has a bionic shoulder (twice). Loved watching him play, good player, but he will never win the cup because he is interested in Havlat and doesn’t get it..
BTW – the kids coach is the BROTHER of the Wild coach. I believe it.
What were we talking about?
The Kicking Bird is a bad ass
Who can score in the clutch with out having the benefit of playing with Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Crosby or Malkin.
I am more inclined to believe the coach in Minnesota was clueless and none of their stars played the last game. And all things being equal Hossa is a more complete player with out a doubt.
Similarly, this group of Hawks management clearly wanted to push a brand of puck possession that has made Daytoit dominant for several years. And a player like Hossa with the proper line mates makes sense. Also factoring injury history at that time he was the less risky pick. Then factor in new management wanting to make their mark with a big signing and have “their guy” come in.
It was a business decision thanks for trying to make it a soap opera.
by TurdFurgeson on Apr 18, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Nevr was talking to you dude
Was talking to Hawks 61.
And yes it was a business decision. A very good business decision.
What were we talking about?
other other thoughts
some booing at the end of the game. wtf? whatever you think, the Hawks are still giving their best effort.
IF they come up short Tuesday, and you’re there, please do not boo. I’d like to honor this team and not end the year on a sour note like that.
Finally, when you suit up 8 forwards named: Kruger, Frolik, Scott, Dowell, Pisani, Stalberg, Smith, Brouwer- this is not a championship team.
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by cliffkoroll on Apr 18, 2011 9:37 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Finally, when you suit up 8 forwards named: Kruger, Frolik, Scott, Dowell, Pisani, Stalberg, Smith, Brouwer- this is not a championship team.
DING.
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Pisani was on the ice with 2 minutes left
that says a lot about our depth right there
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by LanceFister3 on Apr 18, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
The good news is that at least half of the players you mentioned will be gone next season.
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Individually, I wouldn't say that's true
but collectively, yeah, I hear what you’re saying.
I just made myself sick thinking about the possibility that Scott could still be on the roster next year.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 18, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll try to keep that in mind.
It’s a good point, but I have to tell you the frustration is difficult for everyone to bear.
I have boo’d a bit recently — but it’s because they appear to be skating around at times with zero clue, and I don’t care how young you might be, you are a professional and getting paid like one (by folks like me, who buy tickets, licensed merch and tune in for TV/Radio).
I will not boo Tuesday, however, and can’t remember ever doing so, in any sport, on the last game of the season. Because at the end, I’m a fan of my teams, and they always bring me as much pleasure in the sheer sport of it as they do frustration in whatever failings I perceive.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
It is kind of frustrating but not if you put it in perspective
If you look at the number of rookies starting (5) the journey men and raw talent that came from shitty organizations it isn’t really surprising they are where they are.
They have kept the games pretty entertaining and haven’t been blown out.
I think they should have changed their style of play a while ago similar to Montreal where they can use their speed to their advantage a little more instead of trying to play puck possession with out the man power to sustain it. Not pretty but could have been more effective.
by TurdFurgeson on Apr 18, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Makes sense with the personnel maybe
but I’m not sure you can win a championship with that style. I’d like to see us upgrade (or refit) the team to bring us back to puck possession land. That’s why we have dat senior hockey advisor, right?
Fair enough
But for those of us of a certain age, we well remember the many dark years, and the years where excellent teams didn’t have a chance to truly fulfill their potential, because of a hateful owner who only cared about counting his $$ from his liquor distribution business/corrupt Chicago/bribe liquor license (and yes, he well – deserved THAT booing on the ice a few years ago). For that reason alone, I have to be quite hopeful for the near future of this franchise, and am looking forward to watching the development of some excellent prospects (with many more to come, starting with this year’s draft). Let’s face it, if this was even four years ago, you’d be quite optimistic about the future if you saw this team on the ice this season.
Got it
and believe me, I’ve been around long enough last year was not the 1st Cup in my lifetime.
I’m hopeful, too (shit, I keep sending Rocky buckets of money every season, including what appears to be a pretty good deposit already on next year’s season). I just want my players to play hard AND smart. At the same time. And to whatever talent level they possess (meaning I expect a lot more out of 88 and 10 than from 28 and 15).
And I wasn’t booing last night, in any event. A little more from our boys isn’t going to make much diff. Van’s a better team, straight up. We needed to steal one there to have a chance, because if they have a weakness, it’s between their ears (and they may have finally conquered that). Doesn’t mean they’ll win the Cup — that’s a long road. But they will advance, and we won’t. Not being a downer, just stating what should be pretty obvious.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
Agree with the point above on the roster.
I am not saying trade everyone… So no “trade everyone sarcastic response needed.” But what is interesting to note watching these two teams this year is that we have a lot of our money spent on smaller, skilled forwards and smaller, skilled d men. We are really missing strong/ big/ fast centers (we have really missed a strong Bolland all season) and have had no response for the combination of Sedin and Kesler as their 1&2. I was really surprised to see Q match Kane and Toews to the Sedins all night last night, but in hindsight there was no other option when he decided to sit R Johnson. And while I like each of our D individually, i don’t think we will like our results if we stick with the current 5 some that is all 5’11"/ 175lbs with average shots from the point. Campbell’s output in the offensive zone was particularly brutal to watch last night on the PP. We really have NO consistent offensive threat from the point. Last summer’s parade out the door was frustrating but we all still had the happy hangover. This summer’s needed makeover is going to be very interesting.
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by Saskjet on Apr 18, 2011 11:02 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Do charging penalties count as a hit?
‘cause Oreskovich wasn’t credited with a hit yet had a charging penalty.
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charging is like what a bull does
so i think this is classified as bulls hit.
see what i did there?
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by cliffkoroll on Apr 18, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Did Torres get credit for a hit?
Like a goal doesn’t count on goalie interference does it?
What were we talking about?
I take that as a no then.
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by eightyseven on Apr 18, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
i meant it as
“does it really fucking matter?” it’s a pretty inexact stat anyway.
but c’mon, my comment was a little clever, no?
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by cliffkoroll on Apr 18, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Hahha, NO I won't appease you :)
I only wanted to know for m’self.
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by eightyseven on Apr 18, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
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