2010-2011 Player Evaluations - Bryan Bickell
by Killion on May 20, 2011 11:30 AM CDT
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Bryan Bickell, yet another guy who has spent years in the Hawks system but only had sporadic and brief call ups to the Hawks but finally got his first full year after the great purge of last summer. Is anyone else getting sick of reading the same old story? Because I'm getting sick of writing it. Much like Jake Dowell, a quick look at Bickell and you see a guy built to make life hell on the forecheck (hey, just like that blog!), get in the goalies space and maybe add a few goals. We got some of that...
Contract Status: Signed through 2012-13, ~542K Cap Hit
Positives: There's actually a lot to like about Bickell's first full season. As Hockee Night points out, Bickell had just as many goals and more assists than another recently departed big guy (who's now a Jet evidently, ain't that some shit?) that is oft lamented in many circles. Bickell's 37 points may be one of the more under-talked about aspects of last season. While the praise heaped upon Crawford (and now all the monies) is much deserved, Bickell himself had a hell of a rookie campaign. No one's going to confuse him with Jeff Skinner (especially because Bickell looks like he actually needs to shave) but his 37 points put him 12th overall among rookies this year. A few of those goals came on some pretty nice sniper wrist shots from the circle... but more on that later. Bickell also proved to be pretty versatile, getting time on just about every line and even grabbing a little power play time. Bickell is obviously best suited for a third line role and he seemed to find himself at home with Dave Bolland when he was healthy. Lets hope we see more of that next year.
Negatives: The biggest complaint about Bickell far and away is that he just doesn't play up to his size. Maybe his locker was next to John Scott and he lost perspective or something but at 6'4 and 225, Bickell is by far one of the largest Hawks. He did rack up plenty of hits but apart from the borderline run on Bieksa, none of them really stand out in my mind. It may take a little time for Bickell to develop some confidence in his physical game but he doesn't have a ton to spare. He'll need to step this up next year. Apart from just laying out punishment on other players, Bickell needs to drop the notion that he's ever going to be a sniper in this league. It's true that he's got a great wrister... it just takes an hour to unload. If the space is there, great. It's not there often though and Bickell would be much better off just crashing the net or better yet, finding space to park himself in front of the goalie and create some chaos in the crease.
Defining Moment: As much as I'd like to just pick Bickell walking around Bieksa in the playoffs, that hardly defines his season, does it? No, instead goals like this were far more common
Given the time and space, Bickell could be deadly...Though again, just in case he's reading, it's not common enough for him to think of himself as a sniper. Please, take the puck to the net.
Outlook: Well, there is that whole pesky wrist surgery Bickell is going to have to deal with this summer. After suffering a laceration from a skate in Game 2 (or was it 3?), Bickell had to leave the Hawks early to make sure there was no lasting effect to his hand. From all accounts though, this should be something easy to recover from and he won't be likely to miss any time next year. This is very good news for Stan as Bickell's super low cap hit and high return make him very valuable for a team that's still going to have to scrimp and save to stay under the cap. Bickell also seemed to find his own in the playoffs too, scoring 4 points in just 5 games. Bickell isn't going to be going anywhere next year and could be a very large piece to the puzzle that is the bottom 6 on this roster. Also, he was born in a place called Bowmanville... do you really think Stan's going to trade a guy from there?
Final Grade: B-, Hey! A grade above a C, that's a welcome sight, ain't it? It may even be a little low for a rookie who put up those points when no one expected it. I just can't get over a player his size not using it to his full advantage on a team that desperately needed it. Still, for his price, Bickell is key for the Hawks next year, especially if he can continue to improve.
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I like Bickell a lot
He’s big, he’s got a wicked snap shot, he’s responsible defensively, and he’s signed for just-barely-above-minimum for 2 more years. He had some really nice chemistry with Bolland at the end of the season, here’s hoping he can build on that and keep developing going into the fall.
Responsible defensively?
Either you or I need a new TV.
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I don't think it is you, McClure. My TV says... He needs to work on that particular aspect of his game.
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541,000
He can stay at his price. Infuriating that he doesn’t play up to his size, but Ill take the goals he pots.
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Bickell and Hjammer
They need to take a retreat out into the woods and find their inner tough guy. When Bickell did hit people it was nice. I do remember when he flattened Hornqvist from Nashville, it was a nice site. Hopefully more of that will happen.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
i hope he learned from his first full season
could be 1 of 3 things happen
1- plays to size and we reap the rewards
2-continues to score but not hit and we continue to bitch about him not playing to his size
3-does neither of above and were bitching about him not scoring and playing to his size calling for meatheads to insert Scott at forward
A little more checking on the checking line please
plus the goals, yeah and it’d be a good deal for the money. That highlight happened so fast I had to watch it a couple of times to actually see the puck go into the net. Not sure if that is just poor camera work or what, but more of that (and the aforementioned hits), and he’d be rated an A next year. Love to hear us all say Andrew Ladd who?
Is a Sedin trying to say something from Dave Bolland's back pocket?
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Best 3rd line in hockey next season. Im calling it.
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by HjammerTime on May 20, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
One other thing about Bicks
He seems to have a lack of… ahem, personality. As a fan, it’s often their emotions on-ice (plus performance of course) that endears players to me. So, I would love to see something more in that department too. Right now, he seems more like a robot out there.
Toews doesn't have any personality. Really most the Hawks dont.
Kaner pretty much carries the water in the personality department.
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by HjammerTime on May 20, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah Marty certainly does (soon to be did)
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by HjammerTime on May 20, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
at least bicks looks like a pirate.
thats kind of cool, right?
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the picture up above makes him look like Crazy Guggenheim.
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
I think having Toews
to counter-balance the sheer amount of personality Kaner has works out pretty well.
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
But that IS his personality!
And I love him for it! See the following for more:
Toews makes funny faces – no one tries harder than Captain Serious
Hossa is IMHAYN
Keith and Seabs are still Days of our Defense bromance
Kane is, well Kaner
Kopy is like the goofy little brother everyone makes fun of
And so Bickell is….. what? I got nothing. That’s all I was saying :)
Sorry, should have used the sarcasm flag. :)
I love the fact that Bolland’s reactions to things often seem nonsensical to normal humans.
Bickell gives off a bit of a “country bumpkin” vibe to me.
Sarcasm noted!
And bicks with the missing tooth def has that vibe… it’s just not that endearing.
Trust me, I’ll take solid play with lots of nice goals over personality anytime, but still….
Well, we did rid ourselves of "Country Stupid" less than a year ago.
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well there has to be some reason they call him bickallicious
right?
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Infuriating
Bickell was 2nd among rookies in hits with 178 hits (40 more than the 3rd place finisher). He was 2nd on the team to Brouwer in Hits/TOI.
It’s amazing to me that Brouwer was 5th in the league in Hits, but I didn’t notice anyone here singing his praises. Everyone wants the highlight reel hits, but no one seems satisfied with guys who can effectively hit and not leave themselves out of position.
For a team who got regularly outhit and wasn’t built to be physical, the Hawks had 3 guys in the league’s top 40 – and all three are also skilled players. That’s impressive. It’s the weakness of the majority of the rest of the team that hurts the Hawks.
The next person who bitches about Brouwer, Bickell (or Seabrook) “not playing to his size,” I’m going to put into the boards.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
but let me ask you
how often did you notice him being physical. The hits stat can be mis-leading to me at least but just because he and brouwer out there with hits i rarely noticed it much. Im not saying he can but more often than not i would notice him not finishing a check
please no checking me, i only have 1 good hand
there's a problem with just looking at "hit" numbers
It’s way too subjective and generously favors the home team and is relative to how much caffine the scorer has consumed. It’s not something like goals or PIM that have an exact number behind them. It’s great to have high numbers but you have to question how much impact they have and there’s no good scale for that. It’s a lot of eye test here so I think it’s perfectly acceptable for someone to question Bicks or Brouwer playing to their size
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by Killion on May 20, 2011 1:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sure Hits are subjective
but it all pretty much averages out, especially since 41 of those games are on the road.
Plus, if someone is going to state “home team bias,” well there’s 18 other skaters out there for the home team. You would have to claim that the scorer had a bias for giving Bickell credit for hits and not other players.
What this adds up to is people overstating “Hits are subjective and discountable.” Yes, they are subjective, but a large majority of players will fall well within an acceptable margin of error.
Again, I’ll take a guy who routinely and effectively hits to separate a player from the puck over a player who hits to separate a player from his head but gets left out of position to do so. It’s extremely difficult to do both.
I know McClure claims that Bickell is not defensively responsible, but I don’t remember any other forwards putting guys into the boards in the defensive zone to gain possession more than Bickell. No, they seldom were monster hits, but they were quite effective. He may have his weaknesses in open ice, but he was well above average along the boards where he tied up the opposition. That’s where he used his size. He was difficult to get around or get away from.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
my turn ons include
CNS in a Bickell lather.
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by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
CNS
Id reply since I guess it was my comment you were referring but it looks like Killion pretty much said what I would have but better.
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I'm a Brouwer fan
….Seabrook and Brouwer were the only two that hit consistently. Brouwer would even answer the bell for team-mates. Bottom line is/ was we lack scorers and hitters—-something we gave up with Ladd, Eager, Buff, Burish and Versteg. Those roles were never filled. Bickell scored but really didn’t hit. Skille, Stals, Dowell Johnson, Pisiani….the list goes on ….had no scorer’s touch and no grit. Just fabulous skaters :)
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This is
how I felt about Buff last year, and I agree, just cause all the hits aren’t memorable, doesn’t mean they aren’t effective.
Too many commas
but by the same token just because he's hitting a lot (2nd most among rookies)
doesn’t mean they are effective either
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
yup. plus i already had this convo about brouwer
so i’m good with moving on
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
So in order to not believe the believeable
we’re gonna say that the number 2 hitter among rookies is not an “effective” hitter? How do you possibly justify or define that?
I’d bet that if any player that’s 6’4" and 225 lays a hit on a you, it’s gonna be rather effective, simply based on the laws of physics.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
brouwer had the most hits this season for the hawks
I had a conversation just the other day with Hjammertime (I think it was Hjammertime) who said while that may be the case it doesn’t mean he was doing it effectively. So that can be true of Brouwer but not Bickell?
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
And I'm not seeing he's not effective, I'm saying not all his hits were
stats don’t tell the whole story, right?
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I never said it wasn't true of Brouwer
The whole problem with this argument is that the incorrect definition (IMO) comes from the top down. We’ve read this so many times and it appeared again today. From Sam, " He did rack up plenty of hits but apart from the borderline run on Bieksa, none of them really stand out in my mind."
It’s playing both sides of the fence. We see write-ups complaining about guys running around to make highlight reel hits but leaving themselves out of position. But then when the hits aren’t of the spectacular variety the comments are “Well, I really didn’t notice him.”
By my definition, an effective hitter isn’t necessarily someone who blows guys up. He picks his spots for those, but in the meantime uses hitting to gain puck possession and to wear the opposition down. I think Bickell did that pretty well.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
You're assuming that by "effective" everyone means mean "big" hits
As Killion said:
It’s great to have high numbers but you have to question how much impact they have and there’s no good scale for that. It’s a lot of eye test here so I think it’s perfectly acceptable for someone to question Bicks or Brouwer playing to their size
And by impact I don’t mean the strength of his hit, I’m taking as what the hit did for the play. Your eyetest tells you he did. Great. Seems not everyone’s does though.
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Well then I guess the Hawks had 3 of the top 40 hitters
but only one was effective.
I wonder if I could win an argument stating that the Hawks had 3 of the 40 top scorers in the league, but only one was an effective goalscorer because the other two, I don’t recall their goals much.
/shrugs
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought this was a conversation, not an argument
Again, I’m not saying HE wasn’t effective. I’m saying that while he had a lot of hits, not all of the HITS were effective. Maybe not even most of them were. Maybe most of them were. I don’t know. But what’s so wrong about asking the question?
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
you keep reiterating the same point
about hits and your eye test.
Bickell was a rookie. A big body, on a small team. He hit a lot, on a team that didn’t.
He scored a lot, without being surrounded by talent (except for Bolland for half the year).
He was a + player.
why the need to harp on this subjective opinion about hit quality?
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by cliffkoroll on May 21, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
how is asking the question or wondering about it harping
I’m done talking about this since obviously there’s no chance of there being actual dialogue about it.
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by justforkicks on May 21, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
scoring is ... by definition ... effective. Hitting is not
The purpose of checking is to separate the other team from the puck (ideally with your team acquiring possession).
It is certainly possible to rather indeiscriminately run into a lot of people and really pad your hit numbers without a great many of those hits doing much of anything o help the team. Think of a lot of the “finishing the check” hits you see – the guy has already gotten rid of the puck and gets a light, rather late hit. Just about worthless to the team.
I am not saying that either Bickell or Brouwer are not useful players for their physicality – they both are, and I would be happy to see both back (assuming Brouwer’s price is right) but there are a fair number of their hits that come off rather superfluous.
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Exactly
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by justforkicks on May 22, 2011 3:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
/facepalm
That could be said of EVERY hitter in the league.
I basically stated the exact same thing about hitting, but IMO many of Bickell’s hits were not superfluous when compared to the NHL average. Many of his hits were smart hockey plays to gain possession. The problem apparently is that they weren’t thundering hits and therefore “he doesn’t play to his size.”
Krome, I’m not sure how “scoring is … by definition … effective. Hitting is not” though? That would be like saying a guy is not an effective defender, or he’s not an effective puck stealer. I believe effective play in many areas leads to goal scoring, not the other way around.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 23, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Then what is the goddamn problem?!!
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by justforkicks on May 23, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
/double facepalm
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 23, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
yes that's helpful
bye i’m done
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by justforkicks on May 23, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
the first time i've said it to you bucko
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by justforkicks on May 24, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
/triple falmpalm!
THE OVECHTRICK!!!!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 24, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
i was going to tell you to ignore that but my internet went down
i don’t even know why i said bucko
but “falmpalm” right back at you
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by justforkicks on May 24, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
aight the two of you just stop it
no more of this.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Effective hitter = Brian Campbell?
He definitely has some blow-ups out there on youtube, and I love all of them.
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I think you nailed it with his range of defensive effectiveness.
In this aspect of his game – YES. He uses his size effectively. Not much argument from me.
Open ice though, he does wind up looking clueless more often than not, and nearly pylon-like from time to time.
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What? Those three guys never play to their size!
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Re-edit
The next person who bitches about Brouwer, Bickell (or Seabrook) "not playing to his size," I’m going to put into the boards – aside from Powrfwd37, who I will need to get John Scott to do so for me – if he can catch him.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 23, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
He produces points.....but is not a body checker
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OOHHHHHHH YEAAAAAH
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20 to 25 goals
should be Bickell next season. He’s only a bit of confidence and some consistency away from that. Consistent linemates, consistent TOI, consistent use of his size…..
I don’t know that he can be the second coming of Brouwer when he went off during the year of the Cup, given that Brow had a lot of time on the top line, but Bickell could get close to that kind of performance.
Anyone but Vancouver.
I’m gonna say we shouldn’t expect to see Bickell eclipse the 20 goal mark. 15-20 goals/season would be a fair expectation from him. Going back to what I wrote about him last summer…
Bryan Bickell (1, 2, 3, 4)- He’s tough and has decent offensive skills for a big man. He’s also one of the more versatile players of the new forwards…in that he can play – when he wants – all four lines effectively. If Brouwer doesn’t start off strong, Bickell could battle him for a power forward spot on one of the top lines. Like Byfuglien, Bickell’s biggest weakness is his apparent lack of focus. But whereas Byfuglien often looked lost when he wasn’t parked in front of the net, Bickell’s basically the opposite. He needs to improve his net presence compared to his size, but I have high hopes for Bickell and expect a 30-35 pt season from him if he’s not stuck on the 4th line. Bolland and Bickell together could prove to be a very annoying combination for opponents.
Bickell’s “size” weakness is his lack of net presence. But he spent most of his time on the 3rd line where that isn’t an issue. 3rd liners are going to be regularly out-chanced by the opposition’s top lines and don’t normally have the opportunity to get to the net – at least if they don’t want to be caught down low when the play is going the other way. They’re more of a “hit and run” line.
People complained about Bickell’s long shots, but it worked – last year. I think his numbers were slightly inflated though because one can’t expect that high of a shooting percent from a lower quality scoring chance – unless his wrister is really that incredible, which I doubt.
I think he needs to crash the net a little bit more, even if he’s on the 3rd line, but I’m not going to complain about the results so far. If somehow he finds himself on the top 2 lines, then it could become an issue worth complaining about.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
me too!
(TMI)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
per the twitters
Jesse Rogers is saying the Hawks have signed Salak to a one-way, two-year deal worth 600K
ESPNChiHawks Im reporting this today. The one way clause is the most interesting: http://es.pn/ijeN0G
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
what exactly does one-way detail?
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Means he gets paid 600K by the team even if he's in Rock Vegas
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600K would be a fantastic cap-hit for a back-up goaltender.
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by HjammerTime on May 20, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Fantastic cap hit yes
But a severely unproven commodity. Can the braintrust keep going to that well and come out not smelling like shit?
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Correct me if I'm wrong
But doesn’t 1-way also mean that he would have to clear waivers in order to be sent down from the ’Hawks roster to Rockford?
by FrankStallone on May 20, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I thought too.
He can start in Rockford, but if he ever gets called up and they then try to send him back down, he has to clear waivers…
But my understanding of NHL contracts is astoundingly poor, so I’m likely wrong.
by transienthawk on May 20, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
so they're challenging him
to make the team outta training camp
by Canuckslicknutsak on May 20, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't like that plan
He hasn’t played any North American hockey. Even Nemo spent a season in the AHL
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That's not true
He played in Panther’s system for the 2009-‘10 season (including a couple of games with the big club) before being lent out by the Panthers to Färjestad BK in Sweden for just his past season. Granted it’s not a TON of experience by any means, it’s certainly not nothing
by FrankStallone on May 20, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
still only a .900% SV
with a GAA near 3. Niemi went .913% 2.43 GAA in comparison.
I don’t trust him to be better than “omg-i-need-to-drink” level at the NHL level
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Gotta keep age in mind
he’s still only 24, so he was only 22 2 season ago when he spend the season in the Panthers organization. He’s had 2 more years of playing and developing, including last year in Europe where he was starting. I’m not saying I expect him to come in, light the league on fire, and make a serious play for Crow’s starting job; what I am saying is that $600K is a good price for a back-up goalie, especially one who’s still young and will develop and get better over the season as he faces NHL quality shots every day in practice for the first time in his career as opposed to a 35-year-old veteran who’s got the same amount of skill/ability but won’t be getting any better and probably wants a little more money.
by FrankStallone on May 20, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I worry about Q
watching the kid for 2-3 games and then having no faith in him, resulting in Crawford playing 18-20 game stretches and getting completly worn down.
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I think he’ll give more leeway towards a rook than a veteran that is more worried about being the “class clown”.
Although as a fan I found Turco’s antics hilarious, Q might have thought differently about them especially when you consider how Turco’s on-ice performance was vomit inducing.
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we can’t forget the Stephan Waite (sp?) factor that dude seems to be pretty good with Rookie Tenders
apparently not
For goalies, it’s age, number of games played and a bunch of other stuff. but they probably won’t have to put him on waivers to send him up or down. Not that I’m some sort of CBA wizard or anything.
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
Yes
At least one last time.
Can he do any worse than Turco if he’s the backup next year? I highly doubt. Odds are much greater that he will over-perform based on his career numbers and the scouting reports. And for 40% of what Turco was paid, this is a great move and a no-brainer in my book. If he starts in Rockford that too should be a nice improvement for them and he can still get called up.
No way the Hawks should risk letting a potential above-average goalie get away when they are EXTREMELY weak in goaltending depth. This was likely the type of secure contract they had to give him to keep him.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention he reportedly plays angry back there at times
Kind of a cross between Billy Smith and Belfour – don’t take any shit back there, rake ’em with your stick, Salak!
Can he hit?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
how big is he?
does he play to his size?
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by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i heard this
should be entertaining, nothing like having a goalie bring the fire on your team!
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I always enjoy when the goalies get fiesty
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't mind fiesty...
I’ve heard Salak has taken several penalties for being too aggressive, though.
That’s something that he cannot do – the agitators in the NHL will eat him alive.
by transienthawk on May 20, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
feisty-ness and not taking shit are definitely good things, but only so long as he’s able to stay under control and not take stupid penalties. Standing up for himself is one thing, but if it’s easy enough to get in his head and force a stupid reaction there are just too many guys in the NHL that have perfected that “pest” role…
by FrankStallone on May 20, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not advocating for that kind of reaction
But at times that kind of attitude bodes well if things don’t go exactly the way you planned in a game – don’t get too mad, but most importantly, get even.
Well yeah that's a big no
I don’t want him, going crazy on ice and knocking people around. But I’ve always liked watching when the goalies don’t take shit, and will push guys out of the crease if they need to. Crawfords’ done it, and Lundqvist is another who can be aggressive, but not wildly so that they get penalties for it.
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Lundqvist can get a bit over-agressive at times
breaking sticks and taking penalties, but he doesn’t go overboard with it.
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
Yeah but I think more often then not he is reigned in
just very protective of his crease. At the same time though, his team is very protective of him as well.
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
This sounds like fun.
Salak can challenge Luongo to a fight.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
No, that fight would never happen
Because once his fist grazed Lou’s temple, he would immediately go down in a heap.
Experience needed.
I’d feel much better paying twice that amount for a Conklin/Garon/Labarbera type.
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
i really am wary
of having a sum total of fewer than 70 NHL games experience in net next season
Would you prefer to have a veteran goalie
with much “experience” below .900?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
well no,
I’d prefer to have a veteran with >.9 … it just appears to me that having crawford and salak on the team is begging for a double-meltdown.
what other choices do they have?
with the cap?
unless some sucker takes Hossa
by Canuckslicknutsak on May 20, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
There is the potential of a double-meltdown
but I’m gonna remain optimistic and think of this as a good thing. Having a young, good goalie who’s trying to develop into a quality NHL starter in his own right as a back-up will push Crawford to keep working, keep improving, and never be satisfied much more so than a veteran career back-up ever could.
by FrankStallone on May 20, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
$$$
The picking are a bit slimmer than last summer. A quality veteran goalie, not over 35, would probably want A) closer to $2M and/or B) to go someplace he has a good chance of being the starter. The Hawks can’t offer either option.
There’s no guaranty that Salak is going to be the backup next year, but I assume that is the plan.
And the fact that both were tied up within 24 hours of each other says to me that the Hawks had a number in mind for what they wanted to pay for goaltending next year. Once they were able to get Salak to agree to a lower salary (for the guaranty that he would actually get paid the NHL figure), that likely freed up some extra money to pay Crawford what he wanted and not wait until July to fuck it up.
I highly doubt this was coincidence, and if not, then it was a GREAT move by the Hawks, considering the flip side of waiting for bad things to happen. Hawks need goalies as much as centers. Cross one major need off the to do list. Now to shore up the farm system.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
so
was this the unofficial official boot out the door for turco?
wonder who is gonna pick him up. watched him on nhl network doing some commentating, and it he looked unnatural and goofy. not sure if he can hack it there.
I hope to God it is. I’ve had enough of Turco for one season.
Salak appears to have “the goods” as a quality netminder. I guess we’ll see in September in the pre-season and, if all goes well, beyond.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
i would take turco for salaks price as a back up
vet and not a terrible back up. The team in front was terrible but i like how he seemed with crawford and good interview (not that it matters)
I will give the devil his due and that he served as a wonderful mentor to Corey Crawford this past season. No doubt a small part of the Crow’s success hinged on Turco’s ability to teach him the mental aspect of being a legitimate top flight netminder.
But this upcoming season I’d rather see a goaltender that can battle Crawford for ice-time rather than a veteran that can spot a start or two.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
I completely agree with that assessment
battling for ice time and pushing Crawford to get better is definitely something that having a good, young goalie like Salak backing him up will do. I think it should serve to help Crow stave off a sophomore slump
by FrankStallone on May 20, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Turco can’t be any worse as a colour commentator than what Aaron “DEER IN HEADLIGHTS” Ward has displayed on TSN or Kevin Weekes on CBC.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Yeah, but he'll never be better than Milbury
Think about his competition – if he can talk without dribbling over himself, he’s golden. Another plus – not stating what’s blatantly obvious to a three – year old. Yet another plus – refrain from saying “it’s OUR game” to any proposed rule changes, or refraining from overusage of “that’s just rink hockey…”
Did you just say that somebody WON'T be better tha Milbury?
A mentally handicapped child with a lisp is better than Milbury…
by FrankStallone on May 20, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
It was blatant sarcasm
Note the references to moronic Milbury opinions, which are expressed roughly 1 – 3 times during each game intermission.
Good move with Salak
But I’m kinda hoping the ‘hawks pick-up this guy, and start Salak in the minors. He’s a UFA out of the Preds system. He’s had solid numbers in the AHL for a few years, and the Preds are unlikely to give him his shot with Lindback and Rinne already on the team. Plus, you know, Predators goalies have this thing.
Depends if management is willing to pay $600k to have Salak play in Rockford.
I had heard that the Preds org really wanted to hold on to him
but who wouldn’t? I assume he wants his chance in the NHL. He’s definitely high on the prospect charts.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Eager mania
Media frothing here in BC for his execution
“out to injure every play”
Guess they put glasses on when Torres is on the ice
by Canuckslicknutsak on May 20, 2011 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
They act as though they just figured out who Ben Eager was. Haven't they seen him the last 2 years in the playoffs?
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
you live in BC?
must be hard being a hawks fan out there
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
media circus
oddly no mention of the canucks 0% PK in this series
and
The missed high stick call at the end of the 2nd period
Gillis has the media completely twisted
by Canuckslicknutsak on May 20, 2011 1:20 PM CDT reply actions
sorry
1st period
sedin on Thorton
woulda be 4 min and …
by Canuckslicknutsak on May 20, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
High stick on Setag...chi too
no clue how to spell his name
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
not that you could tell
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
that Gillis statue
will cost a fortune in brass
and how will they duplicate that ruddy appearance?
by Canuckslicknutsak on May 20, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Each of his 3 chins will require a wheelbarrow full of heavy metal
What a douchecanuck…
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
Did I coun this right?
through two games, SJ has been called for 14 minor penalties, Vancouver 5?
curious how this compares to season totals.
since SJ has the best PP in the league, why isn’t Doug Wilson wetting himself in public over this?
We like our people!
samuelsson
out for season
Canook fans are rejoicing
seriously
by Canuckslicknutsak on May 20, 2011 1:27 PM CDT reply actions
the only half-decent player on that team.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
He's the one who apologized for high sticking Hjammer, right?
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
then i concur your with comment above!
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
canucks fans
are probably happy that a spot opened up for another d-bag
Did not see it mentioned yet, but I think it deserves at least a mention
Rangers’ Derek Boogaard Died of Alcohol, Oxycodone Mix
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, It's not just about Hockey, it's Blackhawks Hockey!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 20, 2011 1:35 PM CDT reply actions
Makes sense in a very sad way
Give credit to his family for ordering the autopsy, can’t be pleasant for any of them right now.
That's so fucked up and awful
Pain-killers always state not to drink alcohol. Most people ignore this and assume “Hey, the worst side-effect is that I’ll get fucked up quickly.” A big physical player like him, especially recovering from the concussion and shoulder injury, likely took them regularly. What a shame.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
As if there were not already a glut of reasons to be pulling for the Lightning...
by FrankStallone on May 20, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds typical doesn't it
They really are a breed apart when compared to other sports – I still remember the story where some of the Caps players stopped at the side of the road late one night while heading home to help a woman who had a flat tire. Just got out of their expensive cars and chipped in – and the kicker was that this was after the final playoff game where they lost to another low – ranked opponent in the 1st round.
Yes, Brooks Laich (love to see him in our sweater next season) stopped after they were
eliminated from the playoffs last season, to help a mother who was on the way home from the game with her daughter.
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
damnit...onion factory must be processing next door..
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
great story
I was sitting at work all teary. Thanks for linking.
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here
they should put a NSFADM tag on stuff.
Not Suitable for Active Duty Military (at least not while you’re at work)
Fortunately, I'm on PTDY and at the house.
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
How is that article link not rec'd?
Thanks Jrs
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
If Bickell was 5'6 160 pds
we would all have a boner.
plain and simple he just ain’t gonna use that size the way we want him to. Very good year at very inexpensive price.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
But that hit on Bieksa
Gives me much hope for the future – just laid that douche out, the look on his face while he starting looking around for a penalty while his helmet was sideways was priceless.
Key phrase
the way we want him to
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 21, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
here
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
heres to hopin the sharks actually put in an effort tonight.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
If they don't
Then DW better batten down the hatches for a unreal shitstorm to follow shortly.
yeah i'm really hoping sharks can put one on the board tonight
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
definitely keeping my fingers crossed
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
and now what's looking to be a clownshoes pp?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
now they just need to hold it
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
did they just say big hit by bieksa?
looked like he was about to fall over.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 8:21 PM CDT reply actions
if that's what they are calling hits these days
no wonder the numbers are skewed
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
refs missing these high sticks again.
fucking ridiculous.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 8:25 PM CDT reply actions
at this point I'm not even expecting them to be called
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
how did you miss that jumbo
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
in other news
everyone see the first official pic of bane?!
And what the hell are they scuffling for?
/hockey’d
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
yes! totally agree!
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
on another note
I am enjoying seeing the canucks getting hogtied during this period.
You can always tell when they are getting creamed, cause Torres just comes out and starts laying all sorts of hits.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 8:42 PM CDT reply actions
yup that is always a highlight. Is torres going to be tonight's ben eager?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Somebody with tech credentials...
Please go to Fear the Fin and copy the “Raffi in a Tree” gif…HILARIOUS
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
by Saskjet on May 20, 2011 8:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
freaking awesome, haha
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hah double the fun
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
oops, i dont even know who did it first it says you did but i didnt see it
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
eh who cares, its just as funny the second time
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys are great, But...
How U do that? Copy the gif?
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
by Saskjet on May 20, 2011 9:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Save it or get the link and then upload it myself to tinypic
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
long way
just right click on the image and click “copy image URL” and paste it in the image box when posting(the little tree button)
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
wasn't sure if its considered hotlinking though since its to someone's photobucket?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
i almost said HONKlinking
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
woot woot!
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
i like it
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by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you also love it and want some more of it?
Because a blog of alcoholics just isn't complete without a Scot.
...I forget the rest, but your mother's a whore.
A Canuck selling it?
Never!
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Nemo
Nice work tonight, so far at least. Get him back on track and who knows?
har har
bieksa’s back in the box, what a douche-nozzle
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 9:26 PM CDT reply actions
STFU AV
Whiny ass – is Eager even playing tonight?
GO NEMO
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
the hell, another penalty?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
wheres the goalie interference call
burrows was sittin on nemo in the crease…
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
THIS! glad I wasn't the only one to see that
Because they didn’t even mention it.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Canucks
Fuck me. Dirty, and then they either full-out dive or at minimum embellish SO. MANY. CALLS.
www.mjt.org
by ChicoMaki on May 20, 2011 9:40 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
its at the point now that it is just expected of them
like, I would be honestly surprised if I saw Burrows NOT embellish a call
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That DEsjardins
penalty just now. It was clearly, 100% a trip, but Kesler basically throws his arms out superman-style like he’s going to take off into the crowd. I just hate that shit.
www.mjt.org
I feel like for a team that is supposed to be so good this season
when they face adversity and are down, instead of digging deep and trying to find a way to get back in it, they start diving, embellishing, and playing dirty to get the win.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep it together Sharks!!
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Gah hope Couture is ok
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Burrows is an idiot
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
SCORE
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Lu fell back like he got shot
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the shit I hate about Luongo
The dagger in my heart dramatics….that is NOT leadership…you gave up a goal, jump back up with authority and act like the game is still winnable….
exactly - not exactly good for the rest of your team to see
you acting like that. Have some confidence!
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
How many penalties have been in this game? oh my god
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 10:17 PM CDT reply actions
9th PP for SJ apparently!
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
you know gillis does
even though the canucks had something like 10 or more for the first two games.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
oh shit
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
they can share the title
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
glad to see him get up and skate off. did not look good at all
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
FUCK
damnit bieksa.
mginn is a total idiot for taking that run at rome.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 10:32 PM CDT reply actions
they have some serious morons on their team
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on Sharks - 1:55 left to go
keep it together
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
vancouver
start and end the game on a penalty.
this game was insane.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 20, 2011 10:41 PM CDT reply actions
insane is right
Sharks finally win though, yay
Vancouver was seriously undisciplined tonight.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
that was a big two handed swing.
fucker
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 20, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
looks like
Edler and Rome out
Ballard and Alberts in
Kesler was 19-8 in faceoffs
unreal
a douche, but unreal
by Canuckslicknutsak on May 21, 2011 3:06 AM CDT reply actions
Marleau
5 goals in 4 games since JR called him out
by Canuckslicknutsak on May 21, 2011 3:06 AM CDT reply actions
NHL / NBC / Versus
obviously want a California team in the finals. Huge discrepancy in penalties.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
Because the disrepancy the other way was ridiculous in VAN
Not even close. Then we have to watch AV AGAIN start whining about the penalties in the post – game comments. Please, please, just STFU and play the game, stop diving, start playing the actual game you whiny limp dicks.
huge discrepancy in penalties..
because the canucks were making them. obvious ones. The discrepancy was the other way before game 3.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 21, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone here for TB vs BOS?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
I didn't realize it was an afternoon game
Come on TB
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
bouncy goal
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
and another one for BOS
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Yikes
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Jeez they keep getting the puck in the other zone by hitting it off the linesman!
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
you got that right
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 21, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah and boston completely lost their heads
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 21, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
i hope so
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 21, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
my roommate turned on the game in the living room
and Purcell scores twice.
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
is it still diving
if he has to go back to the locker room?
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 21, 2011 2:17 PM CDT reply actions
right?
wtf kind of call is that?
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
just wondering - why wasn't that hit "callable"?
seemed high
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
turnovers galore
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
how about that Tomas Kaberle?
best player Tampa Bay has.
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
why wasn't the whistle blown?
he held it for a good few seconds
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
well that's that
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
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