2010-2011 Player Evaluations: Nick Leddy
by McClure on May 3, 2011 12:05 PM CDT
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When Cam Barker was traded last year, we all felt that GM Stan Bowman clearly won the deal, and it wasn't due to the electric playoff performance of Kim Johnsson. In that trade Bowman acquired Minnesota's 2009 first round pick, the home-grown Nick Leddy, a former high school Mr. Hockey of his native state. Expectations were high for Leddy, but for possibly a year or two down the road as a potential replacement for Brian Campbell, as they are similarly built and play similar games. However, due to The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald that was John Scott, Nick Boynton, and to a lesser degree Jassen Cullimore, Leddy was pressed into detail both at the beginning and the end of the year. Predictably, this led to more than a few moments of of both awe and apoplexia as Leddy tried to navigate the blue line, frequently paired with head case Duncan Keith. And, as has been a recurring theme this year, we find another player who was forced into a position he should have never had to be in to begin with.
Contract Status: RFA after 2013 ($1.117 million cap hit, including bonuses)
Positives: It was clear from the pre-season that Leddy had all the tools to eventually succeed at the pro level. As a very swift skater who does so with his head up always looking to make a play on a rush, it was no shock as to why the Hawks' braintrust wanted him in the Barker trade. Additionally, for being on the smallish side, Leddy was not shy to initiate contact, both in the neutral zone and in his own end. And when given the opportunity, he did not fall prey to the affliction of finding opponent shin guards on shots from the point; it seemed like any time he unloaded from the line the shot would have eyes. Toward the end of the year and into the playoffs, there was visible improvement in his positioning and decision making, though they were still anything but 100% sound.
Negatives: The old warhorse of a hockey adage states that it takes about 200 games in the big show for young d-men to "figure it out", and Leddy certainly isn't an exception to that rule. Even through the playoffs, Leddy had numerous difficulties maintaining an appropriate gap between himself and a rushing forward, which often led to him being crossed up trying to turn as a puck carrier blew by him. This was exacerbated by playing with Duncan Keith who was slogging through issues of his own, and was anything but a safety net for the rook to work with, which led to the two yielding a shocking amount of breakaways against in spite of their collective speed. And for all Leddy's willingness in the physicality department, the fact of the matter is that he was often a boy competing against grown-ass men who had no problem swatting him aside.
Defining Moment: Leddy and Keith paired together proved to be a consistent adventure, very infrequently resulting in what Quenneville desired, which we're only speculating was a more concerted defensive effort from Keith, or a killer transition game with two puck-moving blue liners. Unfortunately, there were far too many breakaways against as a result of missed pinch attempts or miscommunication, none more sadly comical than Chris Stewart's late season goal where both Keith and Leddy were beat. Badly.
Outlook: Here's where it gets dicey. Leddy clearly has all the tools to be a top-4 defensemen in the league for a long time, and needs true top-pairing minutes in Rock Vegas to hone all of them. At this stage in his development, along with the Hawks' championship window being as open as it can possibly be, having him at the adults' table is a lose-lose. Any top-4 minutes aren't going to give him the margin for error he needs to make mistakes and learn from them. If left in the bottom pair, it's a risk of severely stunting his development due to a simple lack of ice time. However, because Stan Bowman already let his contract vest and started the clock on his pending restricted free agency, he'll be about as likely to leave Leddy in The A as I am to pen a dissertation on how awesome Radiohead is. This also has a ramification throughout the roster, because if we assume that Chris Campoli is returning, that leaves 4 guys that want to free-wheel from blue line, and the Hawks still light in the ass as a team. But don't worry, John Scott is supposed to get more playing time, the physicality department should be covered with yet another doubled-down-on managerial mistake.
Final Grade: C+. It's difficult to give too high or low a mark to Leddy, who pretty much was exactly what he was supposed to and could be under the circumstances. He still appears to have a solid NHL career ahead of him, and for right now the experience this year, particularly in the playoffs, can only help. But if the Hawks continue to jerk him around, they're risking negatively impacting both the player and the organization as a whole.
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Seems I was far more impressed with Leddy than you
but I’d still end up with a C+. Funny how that works – unlike Scott, I think Leddy grades out about the same whether you use a relative scale or an absolute one.
I found the Leddy move puzzling too
we needed a sizeable stay at home guy to pair with our mobile puck movers, and instead brought up a not ready for prime time small mobile puck mover.
Leddy showed well – for a 19 year old in over his head, but why he was put in that position is beyond me
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
Puzzling indeed ...
The same goes for Campoli. That vancouver series could have shaken out differently if the 5 and 6 guys were blue collar crease clearers. Instead we ended up with the first cuts from Lion King on Ice. Not that anybody wasavailable. I’m just saying is all.
by Billy Charlesbois on May 3, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Leddy=Kid A
Little by Little Leddy will develop. I can feel it in my Bones. You hang him out High and Dry here. His was a Scatterbrain at the beginning and had many of us Climbing up the Walls. At least he didn’t give the the Troy Brouwer act on How to Disappear Completely. He will never be a SuperCollider like Seabrook but I am Optimistic that he can Bloom into a Campbell-like defenseman in the future, thats a Nice Dream.
This Hawks team is just a touch away from having Everything in its Right Place. Its not a House of Cards. Leddy is going to be part of this teams success going forward. But who knows, I Might Be Wrong.
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by HjammerTime on May 3, 2011 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 12 recs
Thanks. Glad it wasnt a Let Down.
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a slight 'beg to differ' moment
Leddy gives the Hawks another of what they’re rich in – mobile puck moving guys at D (Keith, Campbell for the foreseeable future, Campoli for the moment, along with some current farmhands) – but a winning team generally has some better balance on the blue line (i.e. a bit more of the Seabrook/Hjallmerson types too).
Over time, the Hawks will need to achieve a better balance of D guys (well, and frontline guys too)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
Which are more valuable?
Can we trade one for the other?
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
they're both valuable - you need an appropriate balance of both
and yes, one can trade from one’s own wealth to address one’s lacks
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
Finding a Paranoid Android . . .
By draft or trade may strengthen the blue line and make the Hawks’ Fitter Happier.
This makes any Radiohead fan blush.
Great job, lets just hope the Blackhawks can find the Codex for next season.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
also rec'd
I bet this makes McClure Just want to Sulk.
Hjammer, I don't want to be your friend...
I just want to be…I mean…say THANKS for making my afternoon.
Does that apply to me?
Haha...I was wondering where that was going!
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Well played.
I rec’d this…then unrec’d it just to rec it again.
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Tremendously tremendous!
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by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
At least he didn't skate with
the Fake Plastic Tree that is John Scott.
Is a Sedin trying to say something from Dave Bolland's back pocket?
All these Radiohead lyrics...
It wears me out.
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by HungryHungryPanda on May 3, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It looked like
towards the end of the playoffs the kid began to hit his stride. i think he will be a lot better next year
Tremendously Tremendous!
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If what you did yesterday seems big, you haven't done anything today.
-Lou Holtz
Agree but
I thin he could do a lot better with some more time in the AHL to develop.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
He Needs to be in the AHL
There should be very few reasons Nick Leddy should be on the Blackhawks roster next year now that “Capocalypse” is over. We don’t need to a stopgap to have the likes of Boynton and Cullimore burn our eyes. Bowman has an offseason to fill out the bottom pair of defensemen and add depth 7-8 guys.
Yes, we all saw the flashes of talent that scream top-4 defenseman, but I don’t see how playing 10 sheltered minutes a game helps. Luckily, the Keith and Seabrook were forced to play in the AHL due to the NHL lockout. And the only reason they were rushed was b/c the Hawks had garbage major-league talent. They got to learn playing significant minutes since no one was blocking them. We don’t need to rush kids anymore.
We all hate the Red Wings, but acknowledge and commend their string of strong player development. They take their time with developing players and teaching them the Red Wings system. We should do the same with Leddy. I don’t really understand why Leddy shouldn’t be playing 20-25 minutes in Rockford learning how to be a top-4 dman. He can learn how to run a PP, develop chemistry with a possible future pair (Olsen?) and bulk up.
Unfortunately, Stan Bowman’s preciousssss will most likely be in Chicago. Let’s hope he can learn on the fly.
by alpo on May 3, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
At the end of the season
Leddy was playing more than “10 sheltered minutes a game” and was doing just fine.
He proved competent at the blue line. True, he did pinch in a little too much at times, leading to an odd man break, and occasionally a pass was made to no one, but he is young. Besides Campbell, I think he is the most exciting defenseman on the hawks to watch. It is good to see him come up ice, take it down to the goal line and make a play out front. Keep him playing with Keith so the two can continue to learn the others game and the vet can account for Leddy’s bumps along the way.
Campbell-Seabrook
Keith-Leddy
Hjalmarrson-Campoli
(and i have not looked this up, but someone please tell me that #6 is a ufa this year)
Hendry is likely gone
especially with the arrival of Campoli. I don’t see any likely scenario that moves Leddy back down to the AHL, hopefully the hawks can pick up a bigger bodied stay at home defenseman who can actually skate to keep John Scott in the press box
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on May 3, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Playing Up in the NHL
Offers very little opportunities in learning how to become a top-4 defenseman when you have Campbell, Keith, Seabrook and Hjalmarrson as the top-4 defenders. Who is he going to supplant to learn how to run a powerplay or pick up some possible PK experience?
If the Hawks are serious about “reloading” next year for a Stanley Cup run he better not be playing instead of Keith, Seabrook or Campbell on the PP. Or Keith, Seabrook or Hjalmarrson on the PK.
Right now, and likely next year, compared to our current defensemen he’d be considered a 3rd pairing defenseman. Playing him as a top-4 dman is a disservice to the team because it doesn’t field the best pairing. It’s sacrificing the success of the team for the development of Leddy. We are in a currently in a championship window so why are shouldn’t we field the best roster possible. But if we play him as a 3rd pairing dman its a disservice to him as he’s better served being groomed in the “A”.
Yikes grammar
We are in a currently in a championship window so why shouldn’t we field the best roster possible.
If Leddy goes down to the AHL
Who comes up to take his spot? Or do you think Stan would go out and get someone. If we had the money or the reserves I would not be opposed to sending him to Rockford. But Leddy seems like a decent gamble that permits the front office to save some cash that can be better spent on a quality center.
i think he needs to stay up. 15+ minutes of ice time at the NHL level, practicing with top talent is > than playing 22 minutes in the A. While it would have been nice to see him stew in the A this past season, he came a long way.
He’ll need to bulk up and get stronger though. I guess I disagree with the initial blog posting which stated he wasn’t afraid to initiate contact. From my couch, I saw a kid that was too meek to even push a mid-sized forward off the puck. Opposing teams only had to dump and chase while Leddy was in and chances were they ended up with the puck, which is exactly what you’d expect from a 19 year old defensemen.
If the Hawks are serious about "reloading" next year for a Stanley Cup run
If they are serious bout that, then they better be serious about retaining/securing depth at positions 5, 6 and 7. Even if we make it through the year entirely healthy at 1 through 4, it’s a rare, rare team that goes deep without a talented 3rd pairing and a serviceable 7th. Philly might have beaten us last year if they had anyone past their top 4.
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Not even
The Hawks forward depth was just too much. Braydon Coburn was a smoldering corpse even by game 3, and he got paid pretty handsomely this past off season.
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It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame
It'll be curious to see what Bowman's plan is
Looking at the free-agent list on Capgeek there aren’t really any affordable names that stick out as 5/6 dmen. Maybe Kent Huskins or Steve Montador if your looking for solid decently sized veterans.
One guy I noticed was a UFA is Joel Ward. He’d be awesome as a depth forward. I always hate hate hate playing against that dude. He’s a hardworking pesky sonofabitch.
No, the inverse is true in hockey, because the sport is full of white guys
Second City Hockey
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame
i noticed him to
thought it might be a nice add for relatively cheap.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 3, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Rock Vegas or bust...
Use em as we need him during next years run. Adding a few pounds wouldn’t hurt either!
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on May 3, 2011 1:17 PM CDT reply actions
I liked Leddy's play
I may be just irrationally optimistic, but I thought he acquitted himself pretty well in the Nucks series. I wouldn’t mind him logging big minutes at Rock Vegas next season, but I guess I’m sort of hoping for Q to start irrationally trusting him ala Boynton so he ends up with solid minutes.
McClure, I don't know that you are being entirely fair to Leddy
Don’t necessarily disagree with the overall assessment, however, I think the kid did admirably considering the fact that Stan essentially threw him to the sharks and sat back to watch how he’d fare.
I think he can be a far more integral member of the team next year, and can easily envisage he and campoli as a workable 3rd pairing at ES that prevents Keith from playing 30 minutes a night. I would also like to see this kid entrusted with more powerplay duty, he’s got a great shot, but just doesn’t have the confidence to trust it, or prefers to differ to another (as evidenced by his 37 SOG in 46 games. Perhaps giving him the keys to one of the PP unit builds up the kids’ ego a bit.
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on May 3, 2011 1:51 PM CDT reply actions
Under normal circumstances, I don't disagree with that kind of plan
But with Hossa aging, and Sharp coming up on unrestricted free agency, this team doesn’t have the luxury of letting the kid learn on the fly at the big leagues. We saw how costly a missed point here or there can be this season. There’s no reason to believe the West will see any separation next year; if anything Vancouver may come back to the pack and other teams will improve.
Second City Hockey
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame
by McClure on May 3, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
True enough
But, considering Sharp already makes 3.9 against the cap, how much more of a cap burden will he likely become? I think the biggest issue with Hossa stems from his not having a real centerman to play with, and we now know that, no, Patrick Sharp is not our second line center. Finding a reasonable priced center that has chemistry with Hossa will also make the Hossa deal worth more “bang for the buck.”Though I agree with you that it can be costly to give up a point here and there, I think the larger issues reside elsewhere. As far as tightening up the D-corps, I am of the opinion that we look no further than having Duncan Keith remember the style of play that won him a Norris Trophy. Often times Keith’s poor play stemmed from standing around rather than moving his feet, he wasn’t skating and looking for open shooting lanes, not using his speed and his stick to play defense. Is this a product of playing altogether too much? I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt there. If anything encouraging came out of the VAN series its this: the 2010-2011roster had MOST of the pieces in place to be a competitive team, and had enough to at least drive the Presidents Trophy winners to the edge. The biggest deficiency I see is the lack of depth at center.
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on May 3, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I'm working under the assumption that "there's no way in hell Stan will send him back the AHL regardless of whether or not that is the best course of action"
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on May 3, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I see Vanouver getting better...
if they add Shea Weber. Even without, they’ll be essentially the same team but with perhaps a less injured Sami Salo (if they decide to resign him).
Vancouver has plenty of cap space to add Weber if he chose to head home. Simply let Salo go and use the increased cap space to bring in Shea at around $7 mil/p/y. Vancouver will then still have more, per player, to allocate the rest of their roster than the Hawks do.
The only way Vancouver gets worse is if they suffer major injuries next season.
There is no way nashville is letting weber go
They have more than enough money to resign their players and are well under the cap at the time being.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 4, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
you might be right...
the compensation Nashville would get would be pretty nice though, and assuming Vancouver wins the S.C., there’s less reason for them to make that move.
I agree that they can't get worse
Unless they go deep this year and have off years from a couple of their big names.
But I also don’t think Nashville let’s Weber go. Who knows though..
He will continue to be a pain in the Blackhawks ass no matter what.
Vancouver, Red Wings or Nashville are probably the most likely Weber destinations.
Hawks lose in all scenarios.
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if Shea Weber goes to Vancouver
I will shoot a kitten.
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
I kind of think its better to give him
more minutes in the AHL and build his ego/confidence there, then give him “the keys” and such in the NHL to build him up and develop here where it can have an impact on our current team and standings.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Isn't the confidence issue a double edged sword?
After a whole season playing in the big leagues, couldn’t a demotion to Rockford have a pretty shitty effect (or is it affect?)on his confidence?
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I wonder the same thing
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on May 3, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Also true
I guess unless they position it correctly – as a way to give him more minutes and develop him in to a player that can get top minutes in the NHL and be utilized more on PP/PK, etc…because right now his development could potentially be stunted. Plus potentially give him support, right? I mean currently he seems to be off on his own all the time, and in the AHL, he might better develop team relationships/chemistry with guys that will possibly come up with him in the NHL.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
I think if I were 19, having just played in the SCP, I would think that my spot on next season's roster was more or lress sown up
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on May 3, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I would think he knows what the team needs
and knows he has work to do in the off season. No spot is a lock unless you are part of the Core, I imagine. I mean I want Smith up here, he was great in the playoffs, but if he is a bust in training camp, we won’t see him. Same for Leddy. He doesn’t have the experience and/or skills to expect to be a lock for next season, imo.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Is confidence really his problem?
I think he just got tossed around a bit. If we bulk him up in the off season maybe he wouldn’t get thrown off the puck so easily.
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
I would hope
that they’d at least be smart enough to explain to the kid that he needs minutes that simply aren’t available with the big club, and do it in a way that doesn’t shake him.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
by 334Rules on May 3, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
this
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Yup.
“Kid, we like what you’ve done up here, but we think you need more minutes to develop into the player we think you should be. Go to Alcatraz, play your ass off, and the more you play down there, the sooner you’ll be up here for good. And don’t let that Beach kid rip your head off in practice.”
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by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
He should get some of the same talk I got as a freshman
Kid … you want to play, and I want you to play, but right now I can’t give you the minutes we cboth want you to have. So, you’re gonna take some time to bulk up … your life is going to be bed, weight room, dining hall, bed, weight room, dining hall, bed, weight room, dining hall … and study some in there too, so you don’t flunk out. WIth some beef on ya, you’re in.
With Leddy, we’re just adding lots of AHL minutes into the mix
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
And less studying.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Just saw the news that Olimb signed back in Europe.
Looks like he didn’t want to face-off with Beach again….
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Beach is no closer to the NHL this year, than he was at this point last year
-23, yikes
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on May 3, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I used to be an advocate for Beach.
I though that his size would make him a valuable asset in front of the net and I figured the vets would fix his on ice issues.
I now concede to the powers that be and apologize for every time I insisted that Beach be given a shot.
-23…that is Nick Boynton bad.
I'd like to look at his numbers a bit more in depth.
That team was awful.
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When Garnet Exelby is wearing the C
you know the team is shit.
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by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
The Hawks realize this
And I think it matters not a whit to them at this point – there has been much discussion about Beach’s attitude, his amateurish regular goon acts after he gets checked hard and then gets sent promptly to the box. Lather, rinse, repeat. The kid is not maturing as they had hoped at one time – he’ll likely be gone before the next season commences. BTW, he absolutely sucks at fighting as well.
Who cares???
…Vic had the balls to give Beiska a go, was picked on earlier in the season until he dropped the gloves versus L.A. and then showed a hell of a lot toughness be going to the front of the net late in the season. I thought the guy was “soft” but he proved to me different.
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by ccm on May 3, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
yea but beach
has a tendency to go after smaller guys. kinda shitty attribute.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 3, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Hence my comment
aka his tearing of Olimb’s limb.
Just remember
At the end of the season the Icehogs put together an impressive win streak.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
he's been doing really well in Worlds right?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
whether it's 200 games
or 100, or 300.. I don’t know exactly how many games it’s supposed to take for a rookie D-man to settle in to his position, according to conventional NHL wisdom (there’s a contradiction for ya). Whatever the number, watching Leddy this season gave us a good illustration of the general truth behind that old adage. You could easily see how a promising young prospect like Leddy could be ruined by throwing him into the deep end of the pool before he’s ready. At times I was holding my breath for the kid.
But Leddy is clearly exceptional in some ways. Yes, he made mistakes, but did you ever see him panic? Lose his composure? I didn’t, and some of his mistakes were costly, as he surely must have known at the time he was making them.
But more than poise and composure, he also showed some genuine big-league chops. McClure mentions his speed and shot, and gives him a C+. I’d agree with that for the regular season, but I’d raise it slightly to a B- based on the way he stepped it up against the Nucks, who really tested him.
Aside from his playoff performance, there seems to be agreement that he developed over his 46 regular season games, and what exactly is "development" if not learning from your mistakes? I see no reason to expect that his development won’t continue, or even increase in pace.
I don’t disagree that it was far from ideal to throw a nineteen year old on the blue line and say "dance, kid." But in doing so, the worst case scenario (hurts the team negatively, doesn’t contribute positively, confidence destroyed) did not materialize in 2011. He got past the riskiest part relatively unscathed.
Regardless of what happens with Campoli and Hendry, Leddy’s going to launch himself into camp a few months from now like a guy determined to play here, not Rockford. He’ll still have to earn it, but it looks like he’s already more than halfway there.
I agree that more time down in the AHL would be nice ...
I always felt that being an elite NHL defensive defenseman was the hardest position to learn. Guy’s like Crosby and Ovenmitt have such great natural offensive talent that they aren’t really “learning” it. But to be good defensively you have to be a student of the game. However, I think Leddy will get a break because of his skating and puck carrying abilities to cheat on the defensive stuff and still be an asset to the big club.
Additionally, i agree with the comments about his poise. He handled the good and bad very maturely. Plus, I think Chicago is a good place to be an NHL’er. Unless you’re first name is Crystal-belle Huet, the fans are generally more rooty tooty than angry boo bird towards the players. It’s not a bad town to lose a couple baby teeth in.
All in all, I think being in the AHL is better for him, but I don’t buy the “Booooman is ruuuuuining him!!!” line of thinking.
by Billy Charlesbois on May 3, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
sit him down and tell him he's getting 30 minutes a game until Christmas (in the AHL) to hone his play and mature
and if he uses that time well and profitably, then he’s back to stay
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
Funny
clock is running – he is now perhaps our 3rd or 4th best defenseman on any given night – actually I like our top 5, find a stay at home Sopel type and you are good. He will not progress at Rockford at this point. The fact that we had defensive issues as the season began, was obvious, and that in reality our Cup window wasn’t big this year due to all the turnover, he should have been up here from the start to get 80 of those 200 games under his belt. Unless you get a legitimate number 2 center on this team you aren’t winning it next year so if Leddy isn’t here next year that is a complete waste. You need to see what he has since the contract clock is ticking and you have massive $$ already tied up there.
Anyone thinking he should be in Rock Vegas for any reason is crazy.
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
If we can pick up a decent sizeable stay at home guy, then maybe keeping Leddy up makes sense
that could give us 3 balanced D pairings
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
Not sure I follow...
- There wasn’t cap space to bring him up earlier since he makes more than Scott and Culli (or Boynton) combined.
- Hawks won the Cup last year without a true #2 center. They won’t have the issues of last summer and can afford a better supporting cast. I agree an established #2 or #3 center is needed, but that’s absurd talk.
- Leddy is in no way, shape or form “our 3rd or 4th best D-man on any given night.” And to say he is 3rd you have to put him ahead of one of either Keith, Seabrook, or Campbell.
- I don’t understand why our Cup window has shrunk when EVERY core player they wanted to keep got a contract extension (Sharp TBD).
- There is no reason to start Leddy in the NHL next season. Bring him up mid-season again if necessary. If the Hawks keep Hammer and Campoli, all they need is one stay-at-home #6 guy to be solid. Campoli plays the role of a 3rd pair d-man much, much better than Leddy.
Do you really think Q would have had Keith skating with Leddy if Leddy “fit” on the 3rd line? When the Hawks failed to get a sizable stay-at-home #5 or #6 guy at the deadline, Q had to make due. All those pairing changes were mostly due to compensating for Leddy.
It doesn’t mean Leddy doesn’t have raw talent or that he didn’t perform quite well in the situation he was thrown. He just doesn’t fit if the Hawks fill the 1 or 2 cheap holes that need to be filled on defense. And just as important, he’d miss out on learning opportunities and TOI that he’d get in the AHL.
Oops. Ignore what I wrote. I just realized that I’m crazy.
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(Short sale pending)
by ChicagoNativeSon on May 4, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, you are
perhaps we didn’t have a true number 2 center but we at least had three real centers. We don’t now.
There is little development at this point in the AHL – he was playing meaningful minutes and was successful in the playoffs – he doesn’t look lost. And with the crazy off nights we had throughout the year – including one Duncan Keith who was pretty inconsistent – he was one of our top 4 defensemen more often than he should have been. The fact that our defense played better later than earlier in the season might have something to do with him showing up.
If I understand properly – the clock is ticking on his cheapness – we can’t send him to Rock Vegas and buy time – now if that isn’t true, from a cap management perspective you can probably afford to waste him in the AHL for one more year. But if the clock is ticking on his RFA status- he needs to be here now – that all the injuries made it necessary to bring him up may be the case – and perhaps we couldn’t start him because of cap with the big club. But what is done is done. He developed right before our eyes and right now is better than anybody else we would put on the 3rd pair. He saves you 500K at most – and probably less in reality.
One question I do have – he is Campbell’s replacement as it I have seen people say. When is Campbell up?
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
You’ll have to ask Billy … but I like it too. I’m guessing it’s just the shared first three letters, na?
www.mjt.org
I'm also pronouncing it in my head as "Oh-Ven-Mit"
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by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
They probably will
Sure looked like the Caps threw everything they had out there last game, and still screwed the pooch. I thought our line changes were bad during the VAN series, but that one was beyond awful. TB also had two of their top guys out, didn’t seem to suffer for it.
When you consider that the blackhawks have 12 roster spots to fill for next season
and only about 11-14 million dollars per spot to fill them (pending the rise in the cap), you think that, naturally at least two or three spots will be filled by AHL promotions. Looking at Rock Vegas, how many guys have a legitimate shot at making the big club. Well there is Leddy, whom I’m convinced will have the inside track to a roster spot whether or not we want him to…but other than that, Sure there’s Ben Smith, that’s no guaruntee. Kruger…hopefully not. Morin? Is he alive?
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on May 3, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
11-14 million for 12 spots
yeesh
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on May 3, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
The cap is going up, and that's made to look worse than it is due to restricted free agency. No one except Crawford is due for a significant raise.
This summer is not going to be what last summer was.
Second City Hockey
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame
True
still, they’ll be bumping up against the cap especially if rumors of a pursuit of someone like Erik Cole prove true.
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on May 3, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Cole ...225 hits, 25 goals, 26 assists
-1 ….me likely…..
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by ccm on May 3, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not Morin?
Loved what I saw from the kid, however briefly. Went into the corners with gusto, even though he got clobbered a lot. Gotta love that, hope he makes it to the big club next season.
Morin would have been up here this season
…. but his whiplash or concussion ended his season . Look forward to seeing that kid playing up here next season
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on May 3, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm hoping it was whiplash
But this being the Hawks, we’ll probably never know.
it was an upper body injury
somewhere above the waist.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 3, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm curious about the actual makeup of D corps on actual winning NHL teams nowadays
If we look at say all the Cup finalists since the lockout, or maybe it should be all conference finalists, how did their 6-man D pairs actually sort out as far as types of player? Do they in fact as opposed to conventional wisdom actually tend to have more of the bigger stand-and-clear type D (the Seabrook/Hammer model) rather than the smaller fast-skating rusher type (the Keith/Campbell model)? I’ve no idea the answer, just wondering if anyone has ever grounded the question in recent actual results on the ice.
Not sure how, but I didn't take a good look at the Leddy's picture on the main page until just now...
That kid looks almost exactly like Butthead. You can almost hear the ‘uhhh huh huh huh’ just looking at the picture.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
Think Franzen will eventually grab his lip
like he did with Kane’s mouthpiece that was always floppin’ around?
Might mistake Leddy’s lower lip for a mouthpiece…
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
If Leddy was a cement - head then yes to Rockford
… but his game continued to improve through out the season and into the play-offs. If you want to be the best, play with the best. He can hang ………we have seen much worse d-men up with the big club.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
For a 19-20 year old guy playing in the NHL, I think he did fantastic.
He could still be playing juniors for gods (small g) sake. He is the best the Hawks have at the position. Maybe Cullimore can “stay at home more”, but he sometimes stays at home too long and takes to long to get from point A to point B.
Nick Leddy is not the reason VAN beat the Hawks. He played fine, and so did Campoli. You needed to win game 3. Came close, but didn’t happen. AH, but that’s in the past.
Keith – Seabrook
Campbell – Hammer
Leddy – D man x
Maybe it’s someone from Rockford? I think we are going to see a signing and Dylan Olsen next year. Cullimore is 38 YO, so he is not the answer.
Who will they sign? Not what type of player, but who?
What were we talking about?
Mike Modano
He was actually being discussed as playing game 3 for SCUM, as if that will help them get that missing spark, or something. Can’t remember last time I’ve seen that team so flat, unless we’re counting last year. Or maybe SJ is just that effective against them.
Don't know what Modano has to do with my comment, but I agree the Wings look flat
SLOW and OLD. Could be the last hurrah for a great player too.
Come on Wings Do it for Lidstrom (Let’s do it for Johnny!)
What were we talking about?
I think there is talk of Modano actually playing defense tonight.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
...or whenever they play next.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
I have not heard that, but I'm really not paying attention.
That sounds bad. Too bad for them.
What were we talking about?
Nothing would please me more than seeing Vancouver and the Wings go down this round.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
I've been wearing my Preds jersey during the Nashville games
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
It was a joke
and apparently a poor one at that.
no way is Olsen coming up to the main club next season
he needs much more time in the AHL.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 3, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats what they said about Leddy!
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
I don't think we need two of them up here, especially playing together.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 3, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Add the "Scott Formula" into your thinking
… anything is possible
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on May 3, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
ugh...what a situation
I really hope he gets packaged in some sort of trade..
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 3, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we should disabuse ourselves of this Scott trade notion immediately.
There is no way we are getting that lucky.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
where's stacie's avatar?
nothing wrong with hope.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
The hope one has been retired until the beginning of next season
But there is still optimism in my signature :)
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
I need to figure out how to get the indian head on his shirt
photoshop help anyone?
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
I like the lines.
I would put Seabrook and Campbell together though.
Campbell likes to pinch and play an offensive game. When he dips down below the goal line it is nice to see Seabs up top holding the blue line. Also, it balances out the size factor.
Keith and Leddy seems like it could work in the long run.
Find someone for Hammer, preferably a “safety” who plays somewhat of a conservative game.
Who knows, maybe Hammer had an off year and next year plays like he did during the Cup playoffs last year?
sure, Keith and Leddy SEEMS like it could work
but it really didn’t, and I can’t come up with a theory to explain why. But then, Keith himself didn’t work as he recently admitted, and he likewise had no explanation for his lack of effort. So, if Leddy stays and you are Q, do you stick with Keith and Leddy because it seems like it should work? And what’s Plan B if it doesn’t?
by Gate3anuhHalf on May 3, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see Leddy and Keith as a long term pairing
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
Neither do I
because that would suggest to me that the Hawks really screwed up over this coming summer.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet home Chicago!
(Short sale pending)
by ChicagoNativeSon on May 4, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Ditto this
I thought he improved immensely as the year went on. I hope he improves his strength and conditioning in the off season and gives us solid minutes in that third pairing — as long as he’s really ready.
Wouldn’t it be just fine to see ice times even out such that the top guys are around 23, and the bottom guys around 16, with the second pairing somewhere in the (creamy) middle?
Is a Sedin trying to say something from Dave Bolland's back pocket?
Is Campoli not coming back?
Not that I would pair those two together, but I was under the impression that the Hawks have/had a decent shot at resigning him.
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
Leddy is by far the most interesting Hawk on this team.
When Leddy is on the ice he is only behind Campbell on D for “goals scored in 60 minutes of play”. He is seventh overall on the team.
When Leddy is on the ice he is also the first Hawk D in “goals allowed per 60 minutes of play.” He is second overall in that department.
So when I watch him play I have NO idea which team is going to score, I just know somebody is…
So he's the exact opposite of Scott, eh?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on May 3, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
makes sense
if I’m the opposing team’s coach, I would have my team pinch harder and generally be more aggressive with Leddy on the ice.
Kind of a dick move by Ovenchicken
Sticks Roloson in the throat
by CjSax on May 3, 2011 7:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I thought it looked accidental
but the announcers stating how those accidental plays happen all the time pissed me off – sounded like they were just trying to justify the fact that it was Ovie who did it
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
Puck was nowhere near the net; he stuck it under his mask
by CjSax on May 3, 2011 7:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Trust me I'm not sticking up for Ovie
I just didn’t think it was on purpose. Could have been. I didn’t rewind it to watch it again.
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
They've been doing those dick moves all series long
Glad to see them going down in flames.
Wow.
2 goals in like 20 seconds for the ’Ning.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 7:42 PM CDT reply actions
geez stamkos is a stud
Tremendously Tremendous!
Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.
If what you did yesterday seems big, you haven't done anything today.
-Lou Holtz
They like golf more than hockey it seems
Tremendously Tremendous!
Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.
If what you did yesterday seems big, you haven't done anything today.
-Lou Holtz
by Mr. CheeseHead on May 3, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I can hardly stand to look at the screen
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
gah that's awful
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Preds on the board
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
with a shortie
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
and so the undisciplined play begins
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Shortie on delayed penalty for Preds
I feel like they should still play 4 on 4 after this until the Nashville penalty expires and they go on a PP. It’s kind of like when a team scores on a 4 on 4. No one comes out of the box then. So basically my confusingly worded question is why doesn’t the Nucks player go to the box then?
I think
It’s because it technically becomes 5 on 5 in that situation. Though I agree I feel that they still should go to 4 on 4 even with the goal.
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
That's got to be the only justification
My thought though is that the Preds had no advantage in that situation. Even with Rine on the bench it was still 5 on 5.
by Indian_sweaters on May 3, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I know
It doesn’t seem right because why score the goal (yeah, that’s kind of ass-backwards logic) then go back on the PK if you can skate 4 on 4 for awhile and then to the PP?
Granted I don’t think Nashville has the skaters to go 4 on 4 and succeed, but still…
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
I think the idea is
That if you scored, the penalty didn’t cause you any disadvantage since you scored. So it is waived. It doesn’t have much to do with the game play situation.
I could see that
Being the reason too…I’m sure there is an official reason in the rule book.
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
i was yelling 5-hole at my tv
and I’m not even sure it was open
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
I was thinking 5-hole too
Looked open if he could get it past Lu’s stick
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
When he's face down on the ice
after having given up a 5-hole goal.
Unless you can fire it through his skull Osama-style, I think it’s closed then.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I think a C+ is about right when grading on a curve and taking his potential into account. There were times during the season when I was impressed with his composure when handling the puck. Unfortunately, there were also times when his composure was a glaring liability. this is where the inexperience becomes a problem.
The John Scott twitter link was also the most Depressing thing I have ever read. If the brain fart bowman thinks Scott can become an everyday player, then bring back Polfurd.
by theycannevertake2010fromus on May 3, 2011 8:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Rinne did not look good there.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 9:08 PM CDT reply actions
overcommitted
left the net wide open
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
What's with the orange shirts in Nashville?
White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
My two favorite football teams have a "Gould"en kicker
a gold-out
or something. they gave everyone in the arena a shirt so they could color it out.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
School bus yellow
White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
My two favorite football teams have a "Gould"en kicker
I like the effort, but it came off looking sort of "short bus"
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
I can't believe the 'Green Guys'
are in Nashville.
Is Vancouver adopting them as their sometimes amusing, more often annoying mascots?
Might be better than a whale with legs, now that I think about it…
I hate the Canucks,
but I kinda love their mascot. I dunno but I love a whale on ice skates. Or a whale in a tux over hockey gear. At least it’s not whatever the fuck the Canadiens’ mascot is.
Yeah
It has a perpetual “derp” look on its face in my opinion.
The whale version of Leddy, if you will.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm dumb.
I meant the Canucks one.
The Canadiens one just reminds me of the Phillies Phanatic for some reason… Fuzzy and goofy looking.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the whale has less a derp look and more a "you're delicious and I'm going to eat all of you" look.
The Phillies Phanatic is even more traumatizing than the Canadiens’. Why are mascots so creepy?
The Phanatic is awesome.
White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
My two favorite football teams have a "Gould"en kicker
kinda looks like the Red Sox mascot
only it has a human-ish face
White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
My two favorite football teams have a "Gould"en kicker
not only is that terrifying
his name ends in an exclamation mark.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
actually, i should say IT'S name
cos who knows what the shit that thing is.
This is also terrifying:
On September 16, 2005, the Montreal Canadiens announced that Youppi! would become the first official mascot of the organization, and the first mascot to ever switch from Major League Baseball to the NHL. The terms of acquisition were reportedly in the six figures
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
It looks like a Pacific Northwest logger to me.
Hairy. And slightly crazy.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
At BCS
I am SURE you can guess why! lol
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, It's not just about Hockey, it's Blackhawks Hockey!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 3, 2011 9:37 PM CDT reply actions
Call me crazy...
but I feel a bit sorry for Washington. I don’t think they have the intestinal fortitude to come back the way the Hawks did. It’s got to be hard to be a Caps fan right now.
This from Puck Daddy:
“For all the hype, all the expectations, all the long-term contracts, all the face-time on HBO, all the Winter Classic swag, all the popularity, all the proclamations that this time it’ll be different, the Washington Capitals couldn’t seize on their opportunities to avoid a 3-0 hole.”
Ouch.
by Bobo the Pro Bear on May 3, 2011 9:56 PM CDT reply actions
I don't feel sorry for them
OK maybe for their fans, but that’s the problem. They are all that is talked about in the NHL. I’m sick of hearing just how good the Caps are. What have they won lately? President’s trophy didn’t get them very far last year. I love it that the underdogs have taken them down a peg the last couple of years.
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
by stacie7 on May 3, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes this
I have what may be a completely irrational dislike of Crosby and Ovechkin and their teams because of how hyped up they are at the expense of all the other teams.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
and players
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't really have a problem with Crosby
I just have a problem with how much they (him + Ovi) are shoved down everyone’s throats.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
my problem with Crosby is how much he is shoved down my throat everywhere I turn.
He’s done some things on ice I’m not cool with, but my dislike of him isn’t based on on-ice antics. Like I said – irrational because its based on how the league treats him – so not his fault but I don’t like him anyway.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes yes yes.
I’d rather see Crosby and the Penguins win 6 Cups in a row before the Caps win one.
I used to be a big fan of Ovi, he played with a child-like exuberance…but in recent years that’s turned into recklessness.
Also, Mike Green is massively overrated.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
well you never know
nobody thought the hawks were going to get out of the hole they found themselves in either.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought of that
but I don’t think that TB is going to take a couple of games off. They are just flat outplaying the Caps right now. I’m not saying they will Sw—p them, but you just never know.
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
I think its doubtful - but it could happen
I didn’t see the Caps getting swept (though it certainly looks like its going to happen).
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
I haven’t been able to watch their games much, but whenever I was able to see the Caps were pressing.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
TB just keeps coming back at them
tonight the Caps D looked lost out there in the 3rd
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
so far, every time I've watched the Caps would score a goal
and every time I walked away, TB would score.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
haha
I’ve been doing the whole “leave the TV on so I can hear it, but go wash dishes/do laundry/etc.”
I was nervous watching the last couple minutes because I really wanted to watch hockey but I didn’t want the Caps to tie it up.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
They're a good team but for whatever reason
haven’t been able to adapt to how TB is playing them effectively and consistantly. I think if they simplify and stop making stupid decisions they can get back in this. Or at least not get swept.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Not a great fans of trapping (and that 1-3-1 is just a somewhat less boring trap)
but damned if it isn’t effective so far for TB
Give the rookie coach and rookie GM a lot of credit/respect there – they’re bringing it big time with the tools and budget they had available
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
it's a combination
of the Caps D being GOD AWFUL and Tampa Bay somehow finding it in themselves to press for every single second of the game, despite the fact that Boucher only dresses 11 forwards a game (and in Game 2, after Simon Gagne was taken out with his 8 millionth career concussion, that went down to 10 forwards). idk how the fuck Guy Boucher manages to coach a team that is this fucking disciplined (my money is on his CRAZYEYES, they frighten me through the television) but it’s seriously something to behold.
The Tampa Bay trap makes me want to claw my eyes out though. Stifling as FUCK.
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
I think Backstrom must be injured.
Or he needs to sit a game in the pressbox. He has been god-awful so far in the playoffs.
If Toews was injured, makes you appreciate the kid’s grit even more… He was going 50% on his faceoffs. Backstrom went 39% today.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
they said Green was limping heavily at the end of the game
don’t think he played much in the 3rd if he even played at all
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
Yeah, Green got injured today.
Some lower body injury.
I thought I saw him take a puck to the ankle at one point, but I could be mis-remembering.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Ovie took a shot from Green in the back of the leg
and still managed to be tripleshifted throughout the whole thing. Say what you want about Ovie, the dude is being a workhorse in these playoffs, he just can’t do it all alone.
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
He is a true stud player physically
but in some ways he’s sort of a Ferrari without a driver, if you catch my drift
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
do you think his hockey IQ isn't very high
or just that he’s badly coached? Or some combination of the two?
One good thing that could come of Washington being eliminated is that Boudreau would be on the chopping block. I’d be interested in seeing how that team could change under a different coaching system and maybe some more personnel changes. Also, obviously stripping Ovie of the C.
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
His hockey IQ may be middling/acceptable, he seems to be sort of a brick
we’d have to see how well he can adapt to a system that really required him to be responsible for something other than letting his talents run wild.
But from what I’ve seen so far he seems to b a little Guy Lafluer’ish in the brains department.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
right but we're looking for things that would CHANGE outcomes
we all know Mike Green is useless
i call everyone 'bro' regardless of gender or age... which makes running into old ladies at the grocery store kind of awkward.
by boldmatter on May 4, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I want Tampa Bay to win the cup
Just to fuck shit up in the NHL’s front office, when they find that they’ll only be able to market championship merchandise to the 2 people in Florida who will care.
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on May 4, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Also
it might make CNS’s command console asplode and confound everyone else too.
This team- eh goaltending, eh d-men, a Quebecois midget, lousy SRS. This team is a standing reproach to the stat geeks and eye-testers alike.
We like our people!
Yeah, 2nd round going as "expected" so far
- except for that damn TB.
Disclaimer: TB was only 2 SRS spots behind a PIT team missing 2 stars and only 3 spots behind WAS who, like last year, had a low SOS (2nd worst) but only a 27 pt differential this year. And BOS has the league-worst SOS. So although I couldn’t “predict” TB beating WAS or BOS by SRS, that SOS anomaly keeps rearing its ugly head.
And hey, thanks for replying to my email. I guess that was your way of saying “I see an accident up ahead. I could warn you, but you wouldn’t listen”?
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet home Chicago!
(Short sale pending)
by ChicagoNativeSon on May 4, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
i was just thinking this morning
what this world needs is a couple dozen more Blackhawks blogs.
when I met Killion, he told me that ALL of these creations are like two years old or less. Who knew the woodwork was so dense?
i feel a shake-out coming, but feel free to swim upstream.
i’m not clever or creative in the way you are looking for, but I liked the one with the acronym WTF best, and the acronym itself seems like a nice plus.
We like our people!
I'm rooting for a TB/Nashville final
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
d'oh
White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
My two favorite football teams have a "Gould"en kicker
Rinne had absolutely no chance.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
that was a cluster
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Off topic but the Sox were no-hit tonight.
by CjSax on May 3, 2011 10:21 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I HATE the Twins. HATE!!
White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
My two favorite football teams have a "Gould"en kicker
you mean the Sedins right?
/getting back to hockey
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
Baseball blows.
/getting back to hockey
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Them too.
/back to hockey
White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
My two favorite football teams have a "Gould"en kicker
Well, kinda.
http://twitter.com/#!/DownGoesBrown/status/65602525075742720
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
bleh.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
WOOT
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Looks like it went off Erat's skate.
I still like Joel Ward.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
This was my first thought as well.
How much is he making this year?
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He's currently trending on Twitter
SIGN HIM FOR 3M/YR!
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember when he broke the glass at the UC
trying to hit… Hendry? I don’t remember who.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
isn't it a really bad idea to duck checks?
isn’t that how people get hit in the head? :|
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
It was really early in the season.
Long time ago, my memories might be off. Maybe he just ducked back. All I know is he missed the check and took out the glass.
ok, that's fine
I just worry when they duck, because I’m like, whyyyy? do you WANT your head to be smashed against the boards? learn to take the hit!
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Like Kruger did?
That hit was brutal.
He ducked and stopped all at once.. and got destroyed by Hamhuis.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
it cant be incredibly difficult to break the glass at the UC
happened like 20x in the SCP
Doin the FRANKENSTEIN
I hope now
Crawford trended for like…3 days after game7
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Popularity = monies.
obviously!
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
yay
White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
My two favorite football teams have a "Gould"en kicker
really makes me glad our colors
are red and white
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
I'm hoping that they look nicer in person?
but ya know, free shirt…why not?
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
every time I start to almost sort of like Kesler
he reminds me that he’s a whiny bitch and the feeling goes instantly away
I know there was all that talk about how he'd changed the way he played
and I saw that before. But feels like he’s regressed a lot this series – this game in particular.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
as long as the Preds win?
I really want them to win their first 2nd round game at home.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
this would be their second win
they won the last one in Vancouver
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
but its their first second round game at home ever right?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
yea I meant home game
I said it in a very drawn out jumbled way.
I speak english gooder.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
I'd like a regulation win for the Preds
But yeah, winning their first 2nd round home game would be good.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm only semi-emotionally invested
but I really, really look forward to watching Borat do that thing where he rapidly skates to the bench with big strides and his head hung after giving up an OT winner.
by Gate3anuhHalf on May 3, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
so much better for my health and peace of mind
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Im-Pekka-ble save?
White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
My two favorite football teams have a "Gould"en kicker
Oh man, poor sullivan
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
hope the knee is ok
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw Hamhuis sprawling - did he get hurt too?
I thought no but they said it was bad for the Preds and the Canucks and I don’t understand why its bad for the Canucks if he’s fine
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought he said Henrik was hurt
If so, Daniel is in the fetal position in the locker room right now
I obviously didn't hear what was said so maybe?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah I mean did he get hurt on that play as well?
after they showed Sullivan skating off, they said it was bad for the Preds and Canucks, and I can’t figure out why it’d be back for the Canucks (since no penalty was called) unless Hamhuis also got hurt.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
No...
One of the Sedin’s supposedly headed to the locker
room too.
Probably nothing serious though.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks
I couldn’t figure out what happened, so that makes more sense
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Its awesome
watching tense hockey and not really caring that much who wins.
Is a Sedin trying to say something from Dave Bolland's back pocket?
yes so much more enjoyable and less stressful
when you’re watching just for fun because the outcome doesn’t matter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
The Sedin line is struggling right now?
haven’t they been struggling since like Game 3 versus the Hawks?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
ever since Bolly returned
he’s probably still haunting their heads. such is the power of the Rat
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
He prank calls their hotel rooms each night.
Breathing heavily into the phone.
Then cackles maniacally before hanging up.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I love that he did that.
He is such a weirdo and its so fantastic.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
while in Vancouver, people were chanting "Bolland sucks" around the team bus
Bolland got behind the horn & started beeping along.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
by ahnfire on May 3, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
amazing.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy crap.
That is sheer genuis.
I love that man.
I had not heard that story. The legend continues to grow…
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
that is awesome
White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
My two favorite football teams have a "Gould"en kicker
that's what I thought
they have been minus whatever and zero goals/assists since that time I believe. I like it.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
oh, yeah
Erat/Raymond.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 10:58 PM CDT reply actions
Isn't it illegal to lay on the puck
unless you are the goalie?
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
It didn't get called on one of the Thing's early in the Hawks series.
Why should it be called now? :/
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Things*
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
the thing that pissed me off most about that
is that the refs let him lay on it until our clock ran out. A lot can happen in 10 seconds (or however many were still on the clock)
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly!
I guess since he’s not a goalie, it doesn’t count :|
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You'd think it'd be the opposite!
nobody but the goalie should be able to freeze the puck like that
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not a penalty unless
you deliberately dive onto the puck or attempt to cover it.
In that situation the player was trying to block a shot, and it got stuck in his equipment/jersey.
When Honk laid on the puck intentionally against the Blackhawks, it should have been a penalty.
To quote Rule 63.2:
“A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player other than the goalkeeper who deliberately falls on or gathers the puck into his body. Any player who drops to his knees to block a shot should not be penalized if the puck is shot under him or becomes lodged in his clothing or equipment but any use of the hands to make the puck unplayable should be penalized promptly.”
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
heh, i didn't even think it was a penalty
i thought at the very least it should’ve been a whistle. they always talk about how if the refs can’t see the puck, they whistle the play dead….and that didn’t happen.
that was the moment i lost any respect i had for the sedins.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah if nothing else I thought we should have gotten that time back on the clock
not to get tin hatty, but it seriously felt like we got the fastest whistles calling the play dead when it would have been in our favor to let the play continue, and then the slowest whistle when it would have been against us. Like whistling the puck dead when Brouwer’s goal should have counted, versus continuing to let the Canucks whack at Crawford for a puck that no one cuold see.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
ah hell sucks
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
BOOO
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on May 3, 2011 11:11 PM CDT reply actions
oh boo
White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
My two favorite football teams have a "Gould"en kicker
booo
NSH shouldn’t have been on the PK to start with. such a weak call, especially in playoff OT :\
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
yep the Versus guys are not liking that call
take it up with the NHL (if you want a fine)
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
they need to either call everything or not
letting the prior hit go, and then calling this to “make up” for it (if that is what this was) is absurd. All these calls keep happening at critical moments and it sucks
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
even the Nucks announcers
said it had to be a make up call – that’s really crap to do it in OT during the playoffs
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
they didn't want gillis to have a nother wah-wah fest in front of microphones
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 3, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
so annoying and lacking in logic
a team, that in the regular season was one of the least penalized teams, will likely be on of the lesser penalized teams in the playoffs. And vice versa. Complaining about what recent history has shown us is just silly.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate the very notion of a 'make up' call.
Choose a way to call the game, and call it like you see it.
Don’t let complaints about unequal power plays dictate your calls.
If one team wants to play in a way that may result in penalties, let them deal with the negative consequences.
by transienthawk on May 3, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Thing is, make up calls
Usually will just happen. The referee normally doesn’t need to go out of his way to make up a call.
Apparently the ref tonight was not aware of this unfortunately =/
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
Exactly my point.
If a team wants to play in a manner that will result in a penalty, they can deal with the consequences.
The referee should call the game in a consistent manner and not provide ‘make up’ calls.
The players can choose to do that on their own.
by transienthawk on May 4, 2011 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions
exactly
at that juncture, you have to just let them play. The reffing these playoffs has been pretty awful, imo. Either the rules need to be clearer so calls aren’t as subjective, or there needs to be really good training of the current rules.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else just see that
Luongo looked upset and then said something to Schneider after he walked away from Lu at the end of the game. Schneider then turned around and carried Lu’s stick for him.
wait what?
I didn't see him looking upset, i thought he was smiling?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 3, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
God, the last two games in a row the announcers have been sucking keslers dick
different pairs to. shut the fuck up already.
by putmeinthemadhouse on May 3, 2011 11:15 PM CDT reply actions
I thought it was just me
Wait – oh, never mind.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet home Chicago!
(Short sale pending)
by ChicagoNativeSon on May 3, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
since the Hawks were eliminated, I've been rooting for Nashville and General Trotz to take the West
but my hopes will crushed, of course, since the Predators are like 0 for 400 on the power play.
well they did get a shortie tonight
that should lift your spirits a bit
It doesn't hurt to be optimistic. You can always cry later.
A bad call imo
there should be no “make up” calls allowed in the playoffs, especially at these critical times.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 4, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
There was no call on Kesler's stick getting slashed and broken I don't think.
It was either that or the no call on the Bieksa hit – good or not. At least that is what they were saying during and after the game.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 4, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
you you couldn't really miss it with him waving the stick around trying to get a call
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on May 4, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Good stuff on this Thrid Man In broadcast.
Al Cimaglia and the announcer for the Ice Hogs join Block. Lots of good nuggets on the Blackhawks prospects as well as a long conversation on the upcoming offseason.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
I have a dumb question
Why is it a bad thing to have 6 d-man that are good enough to log lots of ice time. I mean is it bad to only play your top pair 22 minutes, second pair 20 min, third pair 18 min. If this isn’t a bad idea, Why would 20-18 minutes a night adversely effect Leddy. I mean typically isn’t it like 25 min, 23 min, 12 min per unit respectively. Why does it have to be like that?
a team generally can't afford 5/6 pairing guys close enough in talent to play that much
unless the 1-4 guys suck
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.
It needs more cowbell.
Speaking of off-season...
Anyone on here know of any good bars that show boxing matches in Chicago? I am looking to go out to see the Pacquiao-Mosley fight Saturday night. Joe’s on Weed is trying to make us “buy” a table, but I figure there have to be better places anyways. Any help would be appreciated here.
Afroman likes tall cans... of Daisy Cutter Pale Ale
I really like this blog but...
I don’t know that you guys could be any farther off as far as grading Leddy, the 19 year old standout defensemen who the team asked to step up and fill a position that needed a lot of shoring up after the debacles that were Nick Boynton and Jason Cullimore. You even detail that he…
“pretty much was exactly what he was supposed to and could be under the circumstances.”
As far as his glaring mistakes, you’d be negligent to not compare his glaring mistakes to those of his fellow defensemen and then again consider he’s a 19 year old rookie.
You also spend an extraordinary amount of time complaining about the way management has chosen to utilize him which really doesn’t have much place in an article grading his on ice performance. The Armchair GM thing gets really old. It certainly has it’s place, but you really give Bowman no benefit of the doubt and need to give that drum beating a rest now and again.
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