Help Wanted Sign At The Coaches Room?
by SamFels on Jun 21, 2011 3:44 PM CDT
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PrintIn what other world would anyone leave Chicago for Winnipeg, no matter the promotion? Think about it. How much of a promotion would you need to leave this city to go live in Manitoba? If it were just your spouse's promotion, how many of use would be all, "Well, we'll still see each other at Christmas!"
But this isn't a normal world this hockey, and it looks like we may watch Mike Haviland make that move, according to Jaeckel at Hockeybuzz. So that's a good day for Winnipeg, getting official confirmation of their team and possibly a head coach. This isn't much of a surprise. Once Kevin Cheveldayoff went to become the GM, I think we all suspected Haviland would be a big candidate going behind their bench. Considering that Andrew Ladd and Dustin Byfuglien are still there, the previous working experience, and that Haviland's apparent biggest weakness -- not being a good interview -- wouldn't matter with a GM he had just spent two years working with.
I'll be honest, I had dreamed up a scenario where Quenneville served one more year as Hawks coach, decided he'd had enough and Haviland moved up to the top coaching job. That scenario rarely works though, so maybe it wasn't all that good of an idea. And one still guesses how much assistants matter.
But Haviland mattered. We know that whatever special teams' unit he coached, it hummed. Two years ago it was the league's best penalty kill. Last season it was one of the league's best power plays. When Haviland had to fill in for Q while the latter recovered from his team's failed attempt to kill him, that's when the Hawks took off on their eight-game winning streak. Moreover, every player loved him, and we did too even though we didn't know him. Any of you not want to buy Haviland a beer?
Haviland also has minor league success as his head coaching resume. He won two ECHL championships to his name, and both Norfolk and Rockford were well over .500 when he was manning the Hawks AHL affiliate. More importantly, Byfuglien, Bolland, Versteeg, Brouwer, Bickell, Barker, and others played under Haviland for at least a full season and can count themselves no worse than serviceable NHL-ers. With the Thra...or whatever they are having Kane and Bogosian and Enstrom and a couple others, Haviland's teaching ability will be handy.
If you're a little worried about who replaces Havvy on the Hawks staff, I won't blame you. When Q got his first chance to hire his own assistant on the bench, Mike Kitchen didn't exactly wow anyone. The penalty kill smelled like a late-night cab for most of the year, and when he took the reigns of the power play that didn't get much better. But everything lands at Q's feet, and whether the Hawks return to where we think they belong shouldn't hinge on an assistant coach.
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"In what other world would anyone leave Chicago for Winnipeg, no matter the promotion? Think about it."
Bobby Hull would like to field this question.
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And then tell you he made a huge mistake.
Arrested Development style.
There are some who call me........Tim?
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by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Jun 21, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Bobby Hull's accountant in 1972 would like to have a word with you.
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and that's why you always leave a note
How long do I have to like the Bruins now?
SCH's resident 8 year old
by LanceFister3 on Jun 21, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
This X1000000000000
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 21, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
so many people on this site know about AD
and i love it
Well... when the promotion
is the present day equivalent of a $100 mil contract, it’s a pretty fucking easy decision.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 21, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe is was because Arthur Wirtz
tried to fuck him – a million times – over. Mikey will only get fucked by a crappy team and even crappier weather.
Just win the next game...!
Wo'h there! Just jokes, sir. Just jokes!
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As if losing game 7 wasn't enough already - we were entitled to that cup!
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
the city will riot if it's not a canuck!
(sarcasm on)
Enjoy it while it lasts Boston, cause the Hawks are coming to take back what is ours.
Time will tell
We’ll see how the Hawks respond next year and beyond without his sense of balance behind the bench. This could be more significant than any signing we make over the summer.
Hawks!
by BlackhawksFan22 on Jun 21, 2011 3:54 PM CDT reply actions
I hate to keep referring back to this, but on the HockeeNight/Block podcast...
…they say that TrueNorth wants Claude Noel and that Cheveldayoff wants Havi. Nowhere else on the internet is running with this so Im still a little skeptical.
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Well, here's hoping
that the guys cutting the checks decide to go with the guy THEY want instead of the guy wanted by the man they hired to make all of the actual hockey decisions
by FrankStallone on Jun 21, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
If I were chevy
and I couldn’t hire the guy I wanted because the guys that hired me to make THIS VERY DECISION wanted a different guy, I’d think twice about staying.
Ownership gets involved in coaching decisions all the time in all sports.
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For sure. You have your Steinbrenner-Reinsdorf types and you have your Virginia Mccaskey types.
I think True North just wants to control the launch of their franchise and investment…..which is understandable.
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And I hope
he asked the Qs about who owns what prior to accepting the gig. And since he’s a first time pro GM, I suspect he couldn’t exactly walk in there demanding complete latitude. So yeah, I stand corrected.
Being selfish I'd hope TN gets their way
but honestly now, if there’s an NHL assistant coach that deserves it, it’s Mikey.
Just win the next game...!
Bollocks I say.
Bollocks to that franchise.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jun 21, 2011 4:14 PM CDT reply actions
I'm starting to hate Winnipeg more and more everyday
While this isn’t the end of the world, we could hope to see Kitchen with some new techniques, new staff and hope that Torch or soemone else comes in.
i don't know about Kitch
every time Q takes a timeout and K is seen drawing up a play, it almost always doesn’t work
Here are my top five replacements
(actual coaching ability was not taken into consideration when forming this list)
1. Reggie Dunlop
2. Dirk Graham
3. Creed from The Office
4. Marty St. Louis
5. Mike Babcock
by Scott13 on Jun 21, 2011 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
#3 would lead to the craziest special teams in hockey
I’m for it.
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by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Jun 21, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Dirk is a good option here
No one is more vocal about the lack of respect he gets regarding his playing days, but I’ve read a few articles that paint him as something less than a capable replacement for Havi.
Zombie Bob Probert disapproves of Dirk Graham.
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Moustaches kill penalties
also, you’re taking this way too seriously considering two of the top three choices aren’t even real people.
I’m interested as to the thought process on how you arrived at these choices. Word association drill?
Let's Go Hawks!
If were going for mustaches, I nominate Michel Goulet.
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His mustache is in control now . He just sits there and combs it all day while staring at the wall and humming like a small girl.
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I should have figured this would happen. It’s amazing he was able to fend that thing off for as long as he did.
Let's Go Hawks!
It very may well have won the 1989 Stanley Cup.
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Well, technically only Reggie Dunlop isn't a real person
Creed Bratton is the actor’s actual name, not just the character’s, so he does in fact exist. Ha!
by FrankStallone on Jun 22, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
That’s what i was thinking. Mark Johnson comes to my mind.
39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.
Take Dave Hakstol from the Sioux.
Please.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 21, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm confused
You don’t like his 113-64-19 record or the fact he hasn’t won you a National Championship yet? Or you do like him and think he’d make a fabulous assistant for the Hawks?
39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.
He's an excellent recruiter
Which is why he took over after Blaise went to the Blue Jackets. He gets the top level talent to come to the school, but when he goes up against a quality coach (IE Red Barenson from Michigan in the Frozen Four this year) he’s totally overmatched. It’s why the Sioux can’t make that last step to get into the title game. His record is kind of a smokescreen, because the team wins due to sheer talent. Not because they are well coached.
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by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting
So we want him as an assistant Hawk coach why? Just to rid ND of him? LOL, no thanks, send him to Vancouver.
39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.
Just trying to have it all.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, okay. For a minute there I thought you were trying to offload a lemon to the Hawks just to benefit North Dakota. Coach Q’s still gonna keep an eye on you though.
Let's Go Hawks!
No man can hold up under the glare of the Q Stache.
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by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
He actually might work out as an assistant.
One of those guys who works very well in limited capacity (IE, just on the PP), just isn’t a “big picture” kind of guy.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
By Zeus' playoff beard, that hurt!
My work is done here.
Just don't let my boss know.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2011 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
*yawn* Autorec
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
So would Trent Yawney want to come back
since he’s no longer in SJ or will we see him back in the “A” where he thinks he’ll have a better path to an NHL head coach?
Just win the next game...!
What I read was that he resigned to pursue a head coaching job in the AHL
but the article that said that did not mention whether there was a specific team that had or was about to hire him or if he was just resigning to pursue any AHL bench boss job.
by FrankStallone on Jun 22, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Fucking yuck.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Thought about this too
I’ll be honest, I had dreamed up a scenario where Quenneville served one more year as Hawks coach, decided he’d had enough and Haviland moved up to the top coaching job.
Not wishing Q any bad will but even after his contract extension, I had hoped Mikey’s stock wouldn’t go up too high and that he’d want to succeed Q some day.
Then when Q got sick, I had to wonder at first if it were serious enough, would Mikey become HC w/o the interim tag during this offseason.
As for a beer, I’d buy Mikey a case of Guinness Draught (18 pack of 15oz cans, yummie!)
Just win the next game...!
I rather see Q win like 3 more cups....
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Good Luck to Mike, he will have his work cut out for him
As for the Hawks side, ughhhhhhhh. Though not the end of the world, it is not like losing Tazer or Duncs, but the Hawks will NOT be a better team with who ever replaces him.
You don’t mind losing guys who you can get someone to still make the team better, but you hate losing guys that you know will hurt the team from getting better.
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 21, 2011 5:48 PM CDT reply actions
This roster uncertainty is making my NHL 11 seasons less and less enjoyable. I want free agency to start yesterday.
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Who oh Who will bear the Cover of NHL-12?
I move NOT a Canuck!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 21, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
jeez....
I reckon he might have an alliterative name and a killer tache? not to mention tracks and a turret.. just a hunch..
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Jun 21, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Nick Boynton, of course
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
ItCanNeverBeBoynton!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 21, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, that is possible.
The Wings haven’t had a coverman since Stevie Y and Lidstrom is on his way out…..
Who the hell knows though….I wish they’d let us vote like Madden and we could get BizNasty on the cover.
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or else they'll just put Sid on again, of course..
though it would be interesting if they put in a special “Nucks Game day Mode”… biting, diving, ragdoll physics for the Sedins..
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Jun 21, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahaha. How could I forget Sid.
I actually heard you can order custom covers but that seems suspect. I might if a Canuck is on the game.
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the words "Brown, Paper and Bag" spring to mind..
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Jun 21, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
On the
official EA forums for the game, dudes make custom covers for the game. The custom cover for the hawks, from just one of these dudes mind you, is going to be Corey Crawford. Someone also requested a Sharpie one from the same dude.
They’re supposedly the right size to be printed out and inserted onto the game box. They also do PS3/XBOX 360 specific covers.
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Awesome. If the cover is a Wing or a Canuck I'm doing that.
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I'm doing it regardless!
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here
Although I’d be somewhat less inclined if it’s a Wing since while I hate them I at least respect them…
by FrankStallone on Jun 22, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah... They wouldn't dare put Bertuzzi on the cover.
Would they?
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You have your answer
It is Stamkos.
I can buy the game without shame, now.
by transienthawk on Jun 22, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Now THAT would be funny!
I wonder if the Canada EA team is going to add “Unsportsman like conduct” minor penalties?!? Though it would be kinda cool to see them add Too Much Man minors to the game (happen on a bad change or puck near the bench perhaps during a change)
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 21, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Good draft preview on NHL Network right now.
I feel bad for hardcore hockey fans who don’t get this channel.
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pretty sure if you get comcast you get this channel
you just have to find it in the higher reaches
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jun 22, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Am I the only one kinda bummed Atlanta is moving to Winnipeg?
I like the idea of having another team or two in Canada, but Atlanta would not have been my choice, Phoenix was more ideal with their history of the past several years. I personally think Atlanta did not get a total a fair shake to show itself with their owners (WE know all to well how crappy owners CAN kill a team in any city!), whereas Phoenix even in good times, never really showed the support needed for a NHL team.
Am I alone in this, or do others think the same or similar?
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 21, 2011 6:32 PM CDT reply actions
and of course there's this about Westgate..
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2011/06/20/westgate-city-center-in-glendale.html
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Jun 21, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes and no.
Many of us have been bitching about Bettman moving teams to the south and out of Canada for years. Now it begins to reverse itself and our hearts start to melt about the good hockey fans of Atlanta…..Its tough but Im willing to watch this happen if teams get to Winnipeg-Hamilton and Quebec City.
Phoenix next….
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I would not have had an issue with ATL
If they had ownership who actually TRIED to put out good teams AND keep them, and ATL still did not support the team. Then by all means, let them move (this is why I would feel no remorse for say PHO moving). But I do not think ATL ever really got that chance with their penishole owners.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 21, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
ATL does a shitty job of supporting all of their pro teams
During the Braves reign atop the standings, they rarely sold out the stadium, and only until recently were Falcons tickets hard to get. I don’t think the Hawks have ever done well at the turnstiles, so why Bettman felt that yeah, this time A HOCKEY TEAM! will change the equation.
But even so
In the end Atlanta still can support these teams. Though it may not be as savage as we are used to in Chicago with our teams, they still survive on their own. Atlanta does not have the best sports reputation, but it does show it can still support teams with fans and money, just not at the NY, BOS and CHI intensity. Hell KC somehow supports a baseball team still!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 21, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Football, as well.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Jun 21, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Kansas City has great fans and amazing stadiums.
Take a look at Atlanta sports history and notice how many different franchises have moved through there. I’m not saying, I’m just saying…
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by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 21, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean like the
Kansas City Athletics (NBA 1955-67)
Kansas City Kings (NBA 1972-85)
Kansas City Scouts (NHL 1974-76)
That is more than I can remember for Atlanta (Flames)! Just sayin’…………..
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2011 5:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm bummed, because since the Army sent me to Alabama, that was my best hope for
seeing the Hawks during the upcoming season. Now it has become Tampa Bay which is a longer drive by a few hours.
sad face.
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What part of Alabama?
Nashville is likely a good bit closer than Tampa.
Plus it has the advantage of the 'Hawks playing there 3 times a year
as opposed to once ever other year in Tampa with the possibility of occasionally playing there in consecutive seasons if (like this year) the ’Hawks play the Bolts twice. Of course, if Nashville turns out to be the team on the move in realignment next summer then that ends.
by FrankStallone on Jun 22, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm about a 30 - 40 minute drive from the FL border, North of Tallahassee.
Tampa is about 2-3 hours closer.
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Agree
with you on the Bummage about ATL, but don’t you lay a finger on the Yotes damnit. :hovers protectively over his second team:
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I'd like to know how it works at the NHL level behind the bench.
Who decides who goes on the ice? I hear that one assistant is in charge of the Offense and the other in charge of the D. Does that mean those coaches pick who goes in when? Or does the head coach call all of that in the game? I know that some matchups are predetermined before the game even starts, but who decided to bench Kane and Sharp when they made a couple stupid penalties two seasons ago?
And if one coach is in charge of the powerplay, I presume that means he runs it in practice. So what happens during the game? I’m asking all this because on some teams you see an assistant drawing up the play during a timeout and sometimes it’s the head coach. Just wondering how it all works. (And, of course, how it all works for the Hawks.)
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In almost all cases that I know of, head coaches delegate special teams to assistants, both in practices and in games—you only want one voice directing those things, especially in games. But ya, it’s not like they just delegate and walk away—there’s always communication, even behind the bench during a game. Importantly, though, the general special-teams approaches are designed to complement the personnel you have and a team’s playing style, and that’s obviously overseen by the head coach … in concert with the GM, naturally.
As far as D and O generally, it’s my sense that this is usually just the head coach’s thing. In Chicago’s case Q is the more active hand for sure. Which makes sense, because our style of play relies heavily on a closely integrated defense and offense, and you want just one vision coordinating things. Most head coaches these days are hardcore “systems” coaches, too, and that requires dictating both sides of the puck.
It’s also the head coach directing who’s on the ice during a game, especially even-strength, and any mid-game changes (benchings, line mixing) are his call. And you’re right, players and assistants both know beforehand who’s going to be on when, but it’s the head coach who manages that stuff in-game. I mean, he’s surrounding himself with guys he trusts, so there’s always input, but ya.
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I don't think there is any single answer to that
The Head Coach decides how he wishes to run things, and implements it with the assistants he has.
Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.
Interesting article on the two new rule changes over on NHL.com.
Brendan Shanahan – as he did while playing – saying all the right things.
Hopefully his actions speak louder than his words. I’m looking at you, Raffi Torres, Alexandre Burrows, Aaron Rome, Kevin BieksaVancoufire.
I’m hoping that the “wheel of justice” that we’ve become (sadly) accustomed to is replaced by legitimate fear of “supplementary discipline” amongst the players in the NHL.
Leave a mark, Mr. Shanahan.
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If by doing the right thing you mean murdering the Blackhawks, you are correct.
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Give me some credit. I said "SAYING" all the right things, which he did. The guy was a great interview.
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also, i hope if certain things, such as boarding, can be left to the refs discretion
then they get some rigorous training.
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by justforkicks on Jun 21, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Markov re-signs in Montreal
Beats Detroit!
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I don’t know what the Habitants are thinking on this one unless it’s at a very reasonable price, and even then it’s risky as his knee is almost unrepairable.
Most people there were hoping for the Canadiens to move on from Markov as his best days are behind him.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
According to TSN and their mock draft, the ’Hawks are about to select Oscar Klefbom a defenceman from Farjestad, Sweden.
Personally, I think Joe Morrow already looks nice in Indianhead colours and it should stay that way after the 1st round Friday Night.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Although, this Jamie Oleksiak creature looks a little promising. 6’7" and 240 lbs. @ 18!?! Freak of nature of Chara proportions.
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"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
or John Scott
see Danis-Pepin
Enjoy it while it lasts Boston, cause the Hawks are coming to take back what is ours.
Or don't. Please don't.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 21, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Havi has an epic shit eating grin.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
anybody
have espn in? was curious as to what they had to say in their article about finding bargain talent, but i can’t access the article…
cliffkoroll notes version
The Hawks’ biggest hole is a low cost defensive forward. The fix is John Madden. McClure’s head asplodes. The end.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 22, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
"No No No No No"
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by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
THIS ENDS HERE!
My work is done here.
Just don't let my boss know.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, I was right there with you at the time.
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by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Ether frolics all around!
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Just don't let my boss know.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you guys see this article?
Bolly is engaged, still hates the Nucks, and I think someone asked who Tazer was working out with in Chicago: it’s Bolly, Sharpy, Soupy. Link
by bhawks on Jun 22, 2011 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
good article
thanks for the link. nice to know what was in the back of our heads after the postseason run last year (cup shock probably did affect our early season performance), and see the resolve from our key players to get back to that level.
very cool
lots of good stuff there. The kool-aid guzzler in me loved this:
The belief is that if the Hawks had won that night in Vancouver they would be playing in the Finals.
“I think we would have,” Bolland says. “After the three games we lost, it was a big change. We really found our team and we really came on. We’d be in the same spot as last year, going for the Stanley Cup.”
Missed it by that much!
We like our people!
Missed it by that much.
And according to NM, AV kept his job by that much. If that damnable Sharpie had hit the corner with that shot the Hawks would have played at least another round and AV would likely have coached his last game. Damn it Sharp!
How’s our favorite alcoholic and drug abuser doing? I haven’t seen any stories about him. I hope he’s working out and avoiding Jackass-like stunts…
39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.
Dunno about you, I like AV right where he is, instead of Nucks having a real coach...
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
Yeah, but if they had a real coach
maybe he’d make them play like real hockey players instead of diving, biting whiners and then any success they may have wouldn’t be nearly as infuriating…
by FrankStallone on Jun 22, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
i dunno
reckon you’d need a tyre-iron to beat the douche out of Bieksa.. not to mention Burrows (BTW, anyone wants to try it, make sure to upload the video, thanks!)
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Jun 22, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
All that stuff AV teaches is why they will never play to their talent level, and stay mentally weak...
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
True
I’m just saying, on NM they were saying that if he had lost game 7 to the Hawks everyone would have been calling for his head.
39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.
I love me some Sharpie
but he should have put that one home. He had the time to stop the puck and go back to Luongo’s glove side that he’d vacated in coming across but instead he rushed the one-timer and Luongo was right there. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20
by FrankStallone on Jun 22, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know about that read
how many times last year, on the Sharp backside pinch play, did we see Sharp hold the pass, shift right and beat the goalie glove side? Answer: Zero, because that’s not the play. If anything, Sharp could have put the shot a bit tighter toward the left post and snuck it in, but lunogo moved well laterally and that would not have been an easy shot.
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I guess I need to see that play again.
My memory of it is that Sharp hit Lu pretty much center of his chest while there was a lot of open net on the left side. I remember thinking that if only I had been in Sharp’s position the Hawks would have won the game. LOL
39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.
we get on sharp for not burying that
but luongo was in better position than most on that play. It looks like the shot hits luongo closer to the blocker than the chest; there wasn’t much space there.
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You're right
(as always, dear.) Less room than was burned in my memory. Definitely hit the blocker. Thanks for the link. YouTube is usually blocked here at work but for some reason I was able to get in today.
39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.
it's because he stays in the blue paint
it was an easy save for him.
seriously, there was just a corner there. Kane could make that shot 7 times outta 10, but not too many others.
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 22, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
It was also an easy save
because he’s moving to his right before Toews even gets rid of the puck. A harder pass and/or a step towards the crease forces Luongo to stay on the left post and probably gives Sharp a bigger window.
Alas, Toews has moved on and so should everyone else.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jun 22, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Toews is a fucking liar.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, but I call bullshit on your assessment
I don’t care if that was how the play went all year, if you’re going to be an elite sniper, you need to figure out a way to bury that glove side. Anyone can bury short side tap ins, but to think that will be there against, wait for it, an elite goalie like Luongo is lunacy.
"What is icing?"
"Well, uh... icing appen when uh the puck come down... bang, you know, before the other guys, nobody there, you know. My arm go comme ça then the game stop then start up."
by anActiveStick on Jun 22, 2011 3:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sharp is looking at the puck trying to one-time it
He anticipated that short side would be the way to go (because it always is), and luongo moved well to make a nice save. Sharp can’t guess there that Lu is going to move like that laterally and go glove side instead.
The credit goes to Lu, blaming sharp for not going high glove there is absurd.
Watch the clip below and pause it at 11 seconds (when sharp has to make a decision on where to shoot. Does high glove-side look open to you?
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Has Sharp ever before gone high glove side when sneaking in back door?
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the answer to that questoin
which I gave in an above comment, is not a good enough response for Mr. ActiveStick.
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don't watch if it still haunts your dreams
If sharp holds that pass, Raymond picks him.
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I think Sharpie had just enough time and space to go back to the glove side were he so inclined
but you’re right that that really just wasn’t the play. What it boiled down to was that a) Luongo was in really good position having done a great job of moving laterally to his blocker side, and b) the puck wasn’t lying flat enough for Sharpie to get great wood on it, if he’d been able to get a little more elevation on the shot there was plenty of room between Luongo’s shoulder and the crossbar
by FrankStallone on Jun 22, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
If we're going to treat this play like the Zapruder film
Toews could’ve made Luongo respect him longer by taking a step toward the front of the net. With Bieksa completely out of the play and no chance of poke-checking the puck, a stride towards the front of the net would have forced Luongo to respect the shot rather than anticipate the pass.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jun 22, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
There was absolutely no room for Toews to go to the front
Bieksa was down a foot from the net and Lu was there to stick-check Toews if he tried to maneuver through that small space. Toews in fact did an incredible job to get into position just to make that pass before the defense could collapse.
And Sharp didn’t whiff on an easy chance (not implying you said that). Sharp goes down low in order to “get under” the puck and lift it near corner. Unfortunately, the puck was bouncing and therefore you never know where it’s going to end up.
Just another example of how one lucky or unlucky bounce can ultimately decide the Cup. Tis a fickle lover.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
We'll just have to agree to disagree then
There was enough space and time if he acted quickly enough for Toews to take a step out. As soon as Bieksa goes to his feet, he’s effectively out of the play. There’s a split second where Toews could’ve protected the puck and made a move (or at the least, gave the impression) towards the front.
If Luongo goes for the poke check then it’s an even easier pass and goal. (That’s without taking into consideration that Luongo doesn’t exactly have the most active stick in the crease so it’s debateable whether he would’ve gone for the poke check anyway.)
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by El Duque's Raft on Jun 22, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I see what you're saying now
Bieksa also blocks Burrows out of the play, and Toews could have decided to take a step to the front instead of behind the net. I still think Lu can just jam the hole and Toews with his stick, but I guess we’ll never know.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm pretty sure
Kane has moved on.
woot!
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 22, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I just watched it again
And I see your point as well. The replay burned in my memory is the view from behind the net and it seems like there’s more for Toews to manuever.
From the replay on the link and in real time, though, it’s hard to tell. Luongo was perfectly positioned too, so perhaps he should get the lion’s share of the credit there.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jun 22, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Two words: John Scott
Could have made that shot,
If Q hadn’t parked him on the bench…guess we’ll never know
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by Saskjet on Jun 22, 2011 12:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Dreams still haunted, but I watched it again anyway. I’m not sure why, but that play bothers me a lot more than the Burrows interception and GWG. It was a beautiful pass and a good shot; I don’t blame anyone for not burying it, just a good save by Luongo. Just a reminder of how very close we were, I guess.
Let's Go Hawks!
another thing to keep in mind
Sharp shot that puck with 75% of the powerplay time still left, they had time to score after that, but couldn’t get it done.
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Lu was down and deep.
The worst combination for a goalie. I love Sharpie but most of the net up was open blocker side. He hit Lu’s blocker more than Lu made a great save. I guarantee you 10 has watched that video multiple times with a pit in his stomach. He has a ton of incentive for a great, big year. i hope we can let him chase it at the Forward position because we need a number 2 center.
Can we drop this, please?
He didn’t bury the shot. End of story.
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by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Fun fact
Bolly’s fiancee’s Facebook photo is my Bolland explosion photoshop.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Link?
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
by Saskjet on Jun 22, 2011 12:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Unfortunately her FB page is private
and I’ve been sworn to secrecy as to her identity.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, that is fantastic!
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by justforkicks on Jun 22, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
That should be enough validation what... 2, 3 hours?
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 22, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nope, still need more...
Since I haven’t heard back from Gary, apparently the NHL isn’t taking my “design Manitoba’s team logo” entry seriously.
I guess they don’t appreciate the sweat and tiger blood that went into this effort…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Who's that guy being eaten? Rec depends on answer...
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
Winnipeg – ‘ipeg’ + ‘ing’ + tiger blood = _______
How long do I have to like the Bruins now?
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by LanceFister3 on Jun 22, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Duh is right, OK, rec...
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
Bob Barker?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
HILARIOUS
that was my first guess.
Seriously.
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by The Fearless Freep on Jun 22, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
The price is wrong, B****
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
"Help control the pet population. Have your pets spayed or neutered"
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Bob??
Damn, that was a hanging curve juicy rebound…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Wheeze...wheeze...rec...wheeze...
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
No idea
It made the rounds around the internetz credited to someone else. That’s when I started putting my name on everything. Even Sam got itsent to him from a friend of a friend and was putting it in the CI not knowing it was from me until he emailed me and asked. Now ain’t that a bitch? I was getting snubbed in the CI by my own work!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Toews and Kane
3rd and 4th in the league for last year’s jersey sales
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i wonder if they are constantly
bickering about stuff like that between each other…
toews: i won finals mvp
kane: i got the cup winning goal
toews: i got gold to your olympic silver
kane: i won the calder trophy
toews: oh yea, my jersey sales are 3rd and yours are fourth!
kane: well, im on my fourth shot of jaeger to your third wheatgrass smoothie…
by Raditzzzz on Jun 22, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd
it’s that whole Jake and Elwood “Four fried chickens/one piece of dry white toast” thing isn’t it..
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
reeeeeplllyyy faaaaaillll..
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Jun 22, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Is this the first reply-fail rec?
We might’ve created a new Waylon category here, folks.
Because a blog of alcoholics just isn't complete without a Scot.
...I forget the rest, but your mother's a whore.
Someone should be cataloging (cataloguing if you prefer) all of the Waylons.
39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.
maybe I just love everything....
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Jun 22, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
And now, get set for our fabulous halftime show, featuring the well-groomed young go-getters of `Hooray for Everything!’
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 22, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Better suited for the cap thread, but that's dead...
Opinions on Brian Boyle? He’s an RFA but could end up being an odd man out in Manhattan. If the Ranges let him go, he may be the only above average option to fill in at 3rd line C in the case that Bolly moves up to the 2nd line.
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by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 11:25 AM CDT reply actions
Mike Haviland
i recall two years ago hearing an hour long interview with him – you couldn’t wait to hear him tell his next story. I recall one of them was when his mom or dad would drive him one hour to skating lessons, and then the hour back home. I think Brian Trottier went to the same instructor. He said it was after Trottier, (I could have theplayer he was talking about mixed up), went to this guy for his lessons that his career started to flourish. It really made me think – no matter how big, tough, and skilled you are, so much of this game is dominated by those who skate the best.
There is a standard retort by coaches to young hockey players who are inclined to bitch about the skating portion of practice:
“If you can’t skate, you can’t play hockey’
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by HjammerTime on Jun 22, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
What is it with Philadelphia and their obsession with fucking goalies?
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jun 22, 2011 12:52 PM CDT reply actions
let the CAPOPYLYPSE begin!
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 22, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Hello, Scott Hartnell.
:-D
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by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I like it because the Philly fans don't.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice
This deal kinda smells like the one the Hawks gave Huet a few years back. Better hope the Russian Super League doesn’t fold, so you have some place to put him when you end up in Cap Jail.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
so you have some place to put him when you end up in Cap Jail
The problem is, I don’t see them signing the deal and then immediately waiving him.
Not now, you don't.
But 3 years down the line when the cap goes back down…
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Why you heff to be mad?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ns14hRqwY8
Tremendously Tremendous!
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by Mr. CheeseHead on Jun 22, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
so funny
his high-pitched voice is hilarious.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jun 22, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Why do they have to wait until July 1st?
Philly traded for him so they could sign him. Unless I’m missing something.
Because they don't have the tagging room to sign a deal now.
They need to wait for July 1st so they get the 10% cushion and some UFAs off their books.
Here's a not terribly boring article/interview with Stan Bowman
highlights for the lazy:
- “We’re not trying to deal players to get to the cap. We have room to add players.”
- on the RFAs: “We are going to focus on that come next week. At this point, we’re focusing on the draft. We work all year to try to have a good draft and be prepared and ready to go. We may speak to agents over the next few days but in terms of in-depth negotiations, I don’t expect to do that. There’s enough time. These guys don’t really have to be signed by any specific date. We’ll get to them in short order…We’ve got an idea [of who we are going to keep]. There are going to be changes. We’re not bringing everybody back.”
- “we haven’t pursued Jagr”
How long do I have to like the Bruins now?
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There are going to be changes. We’re not bringing everybody back.
Code for:
Q really, really, really has no use for Viktor Stalberg
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It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame
If the Hawks think they can fill out our 4th line wings with guys like Smith or Klinkhammer I dont see why Stalberg is necessary, especially when you consider he would probably only get a 1 year contract here anyway. Its pretty clear he wont be cracking the Top 6 and our 3rd line is pretty much set.
Why pay him a million why you can pay Klinkhammer 500K and pocket the extra cash for a better power forward or depth defenseman.
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I am perhaps blinded by visions of what Stalberg could be
and that prevents me from wanting to part ways with him lightly. Then again, If Klinkhammer was ready to go, where was he when the Hawks had Hendry and Scott on the 4th line?
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he wasn't ready to go midway through the season? I think he did get a game up here.
Everybody always screams out letting the young kids go to the Rockford to develop, then they wonder why they aren’t with the big club like yesterday and we say they must suck because they can’t make the pros.
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...horrible typing
screams about*
young kids go to Rockford*
/double tasking at work
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Plus
He turned out to be pretty good in the shoot out, right? Until they get rid of that POS, we need guys that can win a few games that way. I’d pay an extra $500K for that.
From Daily Herald; still talking to Stalberg according to SB himself
As for the Hawks’ key restricted free agents, Bowman said he still was in talks with the agents for Troy Brouwer, Michael Frolik, Chris Campoli, Viktor Stalberg and Jake Dowell.
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110622/sports/706229928/#ixzz1Q2GAzFgH
"Jonathan Toews: Youngest Triple Gold Winner EVER...EVER is a LONG time, no script written for people like that"
"In talks" could mean as little as a single phone conversation notifying them they probably wont be back....
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if its a push between brouwer and stalberg
cya stals.
kopecky had better be gone.
It's not. We need both.
Neither had a great offensive year, but both made strong contributions in other ways. The beef with Stahls before last year was consistent effort. I think he more than represented on that factor all year.
My two cents is that both of these guys would be well served to have a clearly defined role. I don’t think either benefit from Q’s tinkering.
The problem with keeping both is where you put Stalberg
He is probably best suited as a top 6 forward, but not on this team. Our 3rd line is basically set, so that leaves the 4th line. But Stalberg on the 4th line is a waste of talent, and he isn’t what I would want in a 4th-liner. In an ideal situation, I would like to keep Stalberg, but I don’t see where he fits in. It would be better for both sides if he left. (sorry Stacie et al)
How long do I have to like the Bruins now?
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by LanceFister3 on Jun 22, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
We THINK Victor Stalberg can be a Top 6 eventually, maybe, if all sorts of things come magically together....
If Stalberg is in your Top-6 based on what he is right now, your team sucks. He wouldn’t even be in the Islanders Top 6.
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not every effective 4th liner player in the league
is a meathead who can knock you into next week. At the right price, Viktor Stalberg could be a very good fourth line player for this team. What about his speed and ability on the forecheck doesn’t fit the mold of an “energy” line? Vik flying around, trying to force bottom D pairings into turning the puck over, would be a nice tool to have on this team’s 4th line.
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I think that's an accurate assessment...
…of what a 4th liner needs to be. Wall-papering defensemen is always a plus, but I think the speed to get in on the forecheck is more critical.
Key thing for me with Stals would be the cost. I’d rather commit 1.5 mildo to a 4th line centre than a winger (not saying I think Stals will get 1.5 mind you).
You are next.
by M7 on Jun 22, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that nice tool worth a million dollars however? Does Stan want to lock himself into that early in the offseason when he’s planning to be so active?
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he's a non-critical RFA
Don’t sign him to anything more than you think he’s worth to your team. If someone sweeps him up with an offer sheet or his arbitration (I think he’s eligible) offer is too high, then no big deal.
If Viktor Stalberg was a UFA, I don’t think he’d be coming back for a 4th line role, but there’s still a chance since he’s an RFA.
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I am on board with that strategy.
No need to overpay him even slightly just to keep him around. We have guys who we can plug in on that 4th line this season such as Kruger/Smith and Klinkhammer.
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I agree completely.
Most people struggle at least occasionally with the concept of young and talented players with higher ceilings playing as 4th line energy guys. I’ve been guilty of it myself before, and the majority of the time it makes little sense. Besides, we all know how the Q Carousel works… Who’s to say Stals doesn’t end up on the 3rd or even the 2nd eventually with more shifting around to others?
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by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
true
but now I’m not sure if I was talking about my preferences for a 4th line, or the organization’s view. If he consistently plays on the 4th line with the energy we saw, and that is his defined role, then I would be fine with keeping him. But I think Q and StanBo want (or at least wanted) to push him into the top 6.
How long do I have to like the Bruins now?
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by LanceFister3 on Jun 22, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
No mention in there of StanBo being in talks with agent for TomoKop...
Second City Hockey's resident arrogant poster.
He does know that he has to extend qualifying offers to them by Monday the 27th, am I right?
I said am I right?
(For fuck’s sake Stan, don’t pull a Tallon on this one!)
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
He’ll drop them in the mailbox on his way out the office door on the 24th. Ooops, no pickup on the weekend.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
Some of this shit
sounds eerily similar to what Stan was saying last year in regards to getting a deal done with Hjalmarsson.
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Luckily none of these guys are nearly as important.
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Your moniker betray's your bias
I would scoff at the notion that Fro and TBrouw are unimportant (relatively speaking)
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Fro is almost certainly not as important as Hjammer.
The role Brouwer fills is important. But its easier to replace a power-forward than a Top 4 defenseman this offseason. Did not mean to shit on those guys, its just not nearly as much money is at stake and you dont get any more important than a top 4 dman.
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according to our team building philosophy
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
"We haven't pursue Jagr"
is my favorite part. Call me crazy, but I want no part of a 39-year-old locker room cancer who’s been in the KHL for the last 3 years in which he hasn’t played more than 50 games/season
by FrankStallone on Jun 22, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
aggrrreeeed
That’s exactly what I was thinking. First thing that popped in my head when I read that was… THANK GOD.
" who’s been in the KHL for the last 3 years in which he…"
…likely furthered himself as a complete prima donna douchebag?
My work is done here.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not so sure about that
that reputation is already pretty god damn well cemented
by FrankStallone on Jun 22, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I honestly don't mind the idea of Jagr...
…breaking down and getting hurt in a Red Wings sweater
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
This whole Jagr thing
is a tapered version of the Forsberg affair this winter. Dude is not going to make much of an impact.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Ditto for Modano
We were all kinda scared about him on Scum and that turned out to be the biggest bust since Marilyn Monroe.
Or Mike Milbury's waist band.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
*rimshot*
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jun 22, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
They resigned Lidstrom... Maybe they get Jagr, AND Forsberg... Perhaps they can acquire Pronger
and we can get back to properly hating them.
Can you imagine Pronger and Bertuzzi on the ice together?
Second City Hockey's resident arrogant poster.
Nah, Pronger's not European
But maybe they’ll bring in Ulf Samuelsson.
There are two types of people in this world - those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
by The Fearless Freep on Jun 23, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Michal Handzus Anyone?
LA goes after Richards, Michal Handzus is there for the getting. Do we want him? How much?
Production down from 09-10 so maybe we do a 1 year deal (he is 34 afterall) @ 3.5 mil.?
I don’t care what anyone says, I’m still looking for a #2 Center.
Wings we can find.
whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender
i think it would save you some time to just put that in your signature
How long do I have to like the Bruins now?
SCH's resident 8 year old
by LanceFister3 on Jun 22, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Like fucking clockwork.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Here McClure
Hit ’em with this:
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
I'd much rather give up an asset and trade for Stoll
If LA gets Richards, I’m not so sure they can afford Stoll at 3.6.
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LA is one of those teams that seems willing to deal within Conference as well.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
Stol
would give us a lot of PP depth as well. He’s got a pretty good one-timer/back-door ability and I’ve often seen him working the point too. More VERSATILITY for Stanley.
You are next.
by M7 on Jun 22, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
he really is the perfect fit
for what this team needs at 2nd line center. Plus, his deal is up after this year, so that would give Bowman some flexibility with the Sharp situation.
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Especially if they're truly as high on Braden Schenn as they purport
Second City Hockey
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame
Stoll had his ups and downs last year, and went through a couple of scoring droughts, but...
I don’t see this happening if he’s centering Marian Hossa and Patrick Sharp.
Give me Stoll’s 160ish hits and his 57.5% faceoff percentage (better than Toews last year, 300 less draws taken).
Just another 2nd line center that Bowman needs to kick the tires on.
Stoll
Pavelski
Vermette
Peverly
Come on, somebody is going to want to deal.
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Stoll and Pavelski seem like the most likely to be moved.
In Vermette’s case, CBJ is so bereft down the middle, they can’t afford to move him. Peverley’s contract is too cheap an therefore valuable to move for right now.
Second City Hockey
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame
NO NO NO NO
Actually, I totally agree about Pavelski. I just wanted to try out the “no” thing. You would think that since they tried to steal Hjammer via offer sheet last year they would be open to a trade. Plus JoeP’s cap hit is similar to Nik’s.
I just hope Hjalmersson didn’t play his way out of SJ’s “want” list last season.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
"The Big Pavelski"
is not very big at all. I would not mind finding a center with some more size. We have enough finesse, don’t we?
But Pavelski is a playoff legend
/sarcasm
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
You wouldn't want a six foot, 200 lb center that scores 60 points a year?
You’re pretty hard to please.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
In a perfect world
no
My work is done here.
Just don't let my boss know.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Who only has a 4 million cap hit, and is 26.
Might I add.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd be downright please with Pavelski as my second line center
Still, I think SJ would want a kings ransom for him.
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Hjammer, and 2 second round picks this year.
And throw in John Scott. The Sharks aren’t tough enough.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
if this means a line of
Sharp-Pavelski-Hossa
…
YES PLEASE!!!
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
The one problem
Who the hell plays with Campbell on the second pairing?
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
(face tightens itself into a grimmace)
but still that would be one hell of second line
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
...think of all the game ending giveaways!
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
Maybe Doug Wilson's heart can be melted with a cool island song
“C’mon Dougie, we practically gave you Nemo! Now, it seems to us that the least you could do is consider our very reasonable offer: John Scott and Fernando Pisani’s negotiating rights for Pavelski.”
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
(tightens face into a scowl)
That would mean no chance in hell that Leddy goes back to Rockford (even though the chances are likely low as it is).
I like the kid and think he’s going to be good, but fuck if I can come up with a configuration with him in the lineup that works well on paper.
Hopefully, one of them works well on ice.
My work is done here.
Just don't let my boss know.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Ditto.
I’m really beginning to get the feeling that Leddy is a trade chip this off season. He’s so young and so talented and already has a nearly full year of NHL experience. I just don’t see how he fits in, 3rd pairing or otherwise. Free up the space, get something back in return, and go sign someone like Anton Babchuk or Steve Eminger.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I think your about as far off-base as one can possibly be on Leddy.
He is Stan Bowman’s baby and he isn’t going anywhere….espeically for Steve fucking Eminger.
Detroit Red Wings - Green Bay Packers - Minnesota Twins : Axis of Evil
I'm pretty sure there's a better chance of my signing with the 'Hawks
than there is of Leddy getting dealt anywhere
by FrankStallone on Jun 22, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd love to see JP wearing a Blackhawks sweater.
(yeah, what a surprise.)
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
But we've seen it before, haven't we?
Oh, wait… That was Versteeg, huh?
Second City Hockey's resident arrogant poster.
Not six foot, not 200lb.
And no. I want someone big to crash the net. That kind of seemed to be a problem this year.
5'11", 194.
And your second line center isn’t crashing the net. He’s setting the table for Hossa and Sharpie (or whoever is on that wing if Sharp isn’t with Kane y Toews). Joe P is big enough to win the puck along the boards if needs be.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't have to be 200 lbs to be an effective net crash
and Pavelski is an effective net crasher.
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Question
Why would SJ move Pavelski? Seems like every time I watched a SJ game (and I watched plenty as they were usually the best games on TV late) he was always having a solid game. Do they have a cheaper alternative in mind?
Ice meets metal - won't you drive me down to the Big League.
by The Fearless Freep on Jun 22, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Logan Cotoure
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
*Couture
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
The SJ fans are always crucifying Thornton, Heatley and occasionally Marleau in the media, but Pavelski makes it through unscathed. They all seem very fond of him. I would be surprised to see him sent out of town.
Then again, SJ fans also bemoan the fact that Doug Wilson refuses to overhaul the forward contigent
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
With Coture set as the 2nd line center of the future
and approximately 50 million locked up between Thornton, Marleau, The Murderer, and Dan Boyle, they can’t keep em all.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
those are my thoughts as well
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd be extremely pleased
to see the pride of Plover WI on a line with Sharp and Hoss – for the right price.
Ice meets metal - won't you drive me down to the Big League.
by The Fearless Freep on Jun 22, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I used to hate him.
Now I hate him less.
If he comes here, I will be one of the first to buy a Pavelski sweater.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
If CBJ are serious about moving pieces
and making lots of signings this summer, though, Vermette might be an option. I would love him with an Indianhead on his sweater.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
If a trade for Stoll went down
and the signings of Erik Cole and Vern Fiddler actually happened, our problems are just about fucking solved. I would be one seriously happy camper.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't access cap geek right now
but I don’t think they can afford both Stoll and Cole (even if Hammer was traded); they’d have to go awfully cheap on the fourth line and bottom D pairing.
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Yeah, you're right.
I was drawing too much wood thinking about it and failed to realize that Stoll + Cole = approx $7.0MM depending on Cole’s contract.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's an attempt.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Patrick Kane ($6.300m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Troy Brouwer ($1.400m)
Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Jarret Stoll ($3.600m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.541m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Michael Frolik ($1.650m)
Viktor Stalberg ($1.000m) / Vernon Fiddler ($1.200m) / Ben Smith ($0.812m)
/ Rob Klinkhammer ($0.525m)
DEFENSEMEN
Duncan Keith ($5.538m) / Brent Seabrook ($5.800m)
Brian Campbell ($7.142m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Chris Campoli ($1.500m) / Paul Mara ($0.800m)
John Scott ($0.512m)
GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.666m) / Alexander Salak ($0.612m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,952,171; BONUSES: $220,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $47,829
Stoll comes in with Leddy being shipped out. Complain about/debate that if you please, but it’s just how I chose to make the Stoll trade work. Added Fiddler as 4th C and Paul Mara as 3rd pairing defense (grit+PK). Klinkhammer comes in as the 13th forward.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
No reunion tour required
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I spent 2+ hours watching Pavelski skate this morning.
My son is in Pavelski’s hockey camp this week. First off, Joe is DOMINATING the 8 to 10 year-olds-out there. Second, he is NOT a large person. His player stats are clearly inflated. I’d guess 5’9 at the most. Third, he is a ridiculously smoothe skater and has really amazing hands. Fourth, he seems like a really nice guy. (I suppose they all do off the ice, though.)
I’d be SHOCKED if Wilson dealt him to anyone. The forwards are untouchable in San Jose. Even for a good D-man. (Which everyone wonders if Hammer is anymore.) I can’t imagine Joe would mind coming to Chicago since his whole family is still right here in Wisconsin. And I’m still not convinced it’s smart to get rid of Hammer.
Thank you Boston for saving us from a dreadful summer! Now, GO HAWKS!!!
They took his measurements while he was wearing skates, helmet, and all the rest of his gear.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
It's a well-known fact that teams list players as bigger than they were
I’m 5’7", when I played college lacrosse I was listed as 5"10" which I thought was fucking hilarious.
by FrankStallone on Jun 22, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s really only 5’7 and 165 pounds.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
by Badgerdano on Jun 22, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
and while holding a cinder block
Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.
Yeah, yeah, yeah....
Smooth skater
Amazing hands
Nice guy…..
Does he have a charity?
Second City Hockey's resident arrogant poster.
LOL!!!
Actually, I do believe all the money we’re paying for this camp goes to the local rink/club where it’s being held—which also happens to be where he grew up (I think).
Thank you Boston for saving us from a dreadful summer! Now, GO HAWKS!!!
I wouldn't doubt it, I've never seen any bad press on Pavelski, and he is a non-European
Hockey Player.
Not implying that the Europeans don’t do the charity thing, but we typically hear the most about the North American boys because well… We live here.
You are in Wisconsin, right? (It has been touched on earlier, but is “from” Plover, WI)
Second City Hockey's resident arrogant poster.
Up near Stevens Point.
There are two types of people in this world - those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
by The Fearless Freep on Jun 23, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I know I will not be watching
If this is true, I think the NHL is making a good effort to Fuck up a good thing!
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, It's not just about Hockey, it's Blackhawks Hockey!
Sarcasm is implied, unless I am serious
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2011 3:29 PM CDT reply actions
The Winter Classic is a Donkey Show
I realized this even when they had the Hawks play in it. It’s all gimmick, the Winter Classic in 09 even was just based around, hey lets take a historic sports landmark and play a hockey game in it! That gimmick was rinsed and repeated for the next season. Now its just about big markets and audience. The Classic is like sweeps week, (Plus, if I’m not mistaken, NBC/Comcast has a considerable amount of money tied up in the Flyers.
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait! It's a gimmick??
I’m always the last to know these things…
My work is done here.
Just don't let my boss know.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Captain obvious i know,
TMFF just got me going on why I don’t give a flying fuck about the Winter Classic. There is definitely no new or groundbreaking insight there on my part.
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
As I look at it in retrospect
I am willing to admit that the Hawks played the 2009 Winter Classic because they happen to be located in the same city as Wrigley Field, and no other reason. That was before the Hawks had officially “rearrived” as a relevant NHL franchise (from a marketing standpoint).
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you.
The outdoor games don’t do anything for me. The sight-lines suck and it’s generally very cold. It was somewhat interesting purely from a venue perspective but now it’s just more of the same. If the Hawks never play another outdoor game I’d be fine with it. The Badgers played one in Lambeau and another in Camp Randall. Eh.
Anyone else find this amusing?
…because Sunday, Jan. 1 is scheduled to be the final week of the NFL’s regular season
Sunday, January 1st will be an entire week now.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
Aside from the Hawks/Wings game
the winter classic has all been about showcasing the American teams in the eastern conference: Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Washington, Boston, Philadelphia.
And the ratings outside of the northeast will reflect that.
There are two types of people in this world - those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
by The Fearless Freep on Jun 22, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
It'd never happen
But a Toronto-Montreal Winter Classic game would probably make me perk up and give a rats ass.
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a good thing that the NHL is continuing the Heritage Game
in Canada, even if they won’t this year. At least that is interesting to watch.
Far more entertaining to see guys in -10F weather skate around and see all those fans packed in to watch it.
There are two types of people in this world - those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
by The Fearless Freep on Jun 22, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I say we get a Hawks vs the Wild
in minnesota.
or WIld vs Winnipeg would be cool to
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jun 22, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't want the Hawks getting frostbite
from playing a Jan 1 game outside in Minneapolis
Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 22, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been saying it all along...
Stars v. Wild @ Target Field. Try to tell me that wouldn’t be fucking great.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
but NBC would never do it – no superstar to promote.
There are two types of people in this world - those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
by The Fearless Freep on Jun 22, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoops.
Bold Fail.
There are two types of people in this world - those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
by The Fearless Freep on Jun 22, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
I completely understand why it won’t happen, but that won’t stop me from bringing it up every time a Classic discussion comes up.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 22, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I could go for many combinations
JUST DO NOT keep recycling a few teams every 2-3 years.
COL-DET/MIN
MIN-DAL
STL-DET/CHI
STL-MIN
VAN-CHI
WIN/CGY-MIN
TOR-BUF
TOR-CHI
MON-DET/CHI
MON-BUF
NYR-CHI/DET
and on. I know DET, BUF and CHI have played recently, but not as recent as PHI or PIT, but there are other combos as well.
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, It's not just about Hockey, it's Blackhawks Hockey!
Sarcasm is implied, unless I am serious
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawks/Leafs could be a ratings bonanza.
All the Canadian viewership plus a big market team like the hawks…
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 4:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
the Stars and Coyotes are supposedly going to play a preseason game in Reliant Stadium in Houston
(football stadium will retractable roof)
How long do I have to like the Bruins now?
SCH's resident 8 year old
by LanceFister3 on Jun 22, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
this idea just popped into my head
what if the NHL replaced the Winter Classic with an outdoor All-Star Game? You get all the stars in there, so there isn’t as much of an east-coast bias. The league would be able to make it more of an event instead of just a regular season game played in a baseball/football stadium.
How long do I have to like the Bruins now?
SCH's resident 8 year old
by LanceFister3 on Jun 22, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone really want to sit outside in the cold
and watch a game that doesn’t matter? I’m guessing no.
Second City Hockey
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People sit inside and overpay for beer to watch a game with 42 goals and no penalties.
I’m pretty sure they would sit outside for the same thing.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Just remember for tonight's events, the Hart Trophy flow chart!
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, It's not just about Hockey, it's Blackhawks Hockey!
Sarcasm is implied, unless I am serious
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2011 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec-a-roo!
There are two types of people in this world - those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
by The Fearless Freep on Jun 22, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
...so it's going to be Corey Perry?
How long do I have to like the Bruins now?
SCH's resident 8 year old
by LanceFister3 on Jun 22, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
This probably fits better in the Eulogy thread
except it wasn’t posted til today.
A Canuck fan is actually copping to the fact that his team is a bunch of floppers.
The first step is admitting there’s a problem.
The tags at the beginning are my favorite part, though.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Jun 22, 2011 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
love it.. see also the twitter feed
and sure enough, he does get slaughtered by morons.. but he’s right. and honest.
hell, stick tap to the dude!
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Jun 22, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Whatever you do
Don’t go down to the comments.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh, I made that mistake and now I feel all stabby.
by The_FFF on Jun 22, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yup
rec’d
and those comments suck harder than a big sucker in a suckfest.. that a tornado hits..
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Jun 23, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
EA Sports has just released its North American cover for NHL-12
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, It's not just about Hockey, it's Blackhawks Hockey!
Sarcasm is implied, unless I am serious
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2011 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Shit, sorry for the size!
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, It's not just about Hockey, it's Blackhawks Hockey!
Sarcasm is implied, unless I am serious
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
i approve
How long do I have to like the Bruins now?
SCH's resident 8 year old
by LanceFister3 on Jun 22, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I like it.
Looks like Chara is trying to force-feed Vigneault something from the cup.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
His words perhaps?
Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, It's not just about Hockey, it's Blackhawks Hockey!
Sarcasm is implied, unless I am serious
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Taste the shame, bitch!
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 22, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Lidstrom won the norris
not surprised
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jun 22, 2011 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
nope.
we’re talking about the NHL awards in the newer thread, btw. less comments to shift through ;)
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
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