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Downtown Trains Are Full - Morning Links (9/19)

Saturday kicked off the Blackhawks Training Camp Festival with practices and two fifty-minute scrimmages, in which Duncan Keith played like he was saving orphaned children from mustachioed villains and Nick Leddy showed several very reassuring flashes. The relatively solid play of Ray Emery and Alexander Salak also had my house breathing a little easier. However, a couple days of camp practices are hardly sufficient to judge future performance, whether it be Duncan "Rested" Keith, or Rostislav Olesz, who was. . .well, he was.

The pre-season match against Edmonton on Tuesday should shine a little more light on the strengths and weaknesses of this group, but until then, no reason for pessimism. It's a new season. Let's Go Hawks.

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Is the game just being streamed on blackhawks.com?

Or is it on comcast as well. Anyone know?

October 7th, can't get here soon enough...

by Jrs23 on Sep 19, 2011 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shaw can take comfort that at least Carcillo thought him worthy to drop with.

Bollig challenged him the other day and Carcillo declined. After declining Bollig, he unintentionally dissed him pretty hard “I had a few offers. Some guy who starts with a B.”

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by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 9:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Damn!

That guy really CAN do everything!

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 19, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think if humanity has proven anything

it is that it is really, really easy for people to have the childrens.

by oregon_hawk on Sep 19, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

true - especially the conception part

My comment was a failed attempt at a joke. Intended meaning was that Hossa himself had the baby, not his wife.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 19, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha

ok that’s way funnier.

by oregon_hawk on Sep 19, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

conception*

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by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Inception" might have been correct too

Some do call him “Horse”

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn it.

I texted my wife that news and the first thing she asks is “boy or girl”? Women… Isn’t it enough I knew thy guy had a baby??

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thy written word

hast maketh thou amusing.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

That picture of Q writing on the board.

That is as close as Beach should ever get to Toews, I hope

Grumpy Fuck

by laaarmer on Sep 19, 2011 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Thank God

I won’t have to watch replays on NHL network anymore… It was making me lose my sanity…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 9:07 AM CDT reply actions  

I dunno, I enjoyed watching games 6 & 7 of the 2011 SCF last night

if only because watching the Cannots lose in the playoffs, especially at home for all the marbles, is just funny

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I watched games here and there

The TB/Boston Series was fun to watch and certain other games. It was fun while it lasted but now it’s on to things that matter.

October 7th, can't get here soon enough...

by Jrs23 on Sep 19, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

completely agree - new season >>> repeats of 2011 playoffs

I’m just saying that certain replays are more fun to watch than others, like the Cannots completely imploding over the last 2 games of the SCF

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bummer the game isn't on tomorrow night.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

do you mean the 'Hawks preseason opener against Edmonton?

I’m really bummed that I can’t watch the livestream simply because I live in DC and not Chicago or Edmonton

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

hockeystreams.com told me they have it and every game this season...

I signed up for the $90/ year version which theoretically streams to iPad, iPhone, and PCs, I guess we’ll know tomorrow if they do what they say…

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will there be a free stream anywhere?>

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by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the Hawks

It will be free on BHTV. I went to the website and it says it all there.

October 7th, can't get here soon enough...

by Jrs23 on Sep 19, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

I probably should have checked the website myself. I just went to the schedule and saw there was no TV plans. For me, it seems everytime I try to stream stuff in it comes in all slow and choppy and makes me want to punch right through my computer screen (which I once did in college).

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by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but only if you live in Chicago or Edmonton

for those of us of us who happen to live anywhere else in the world, that stream is blacked out

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

ahahahaha

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by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOoooo

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Sep 19, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

From the Tribune's Picture Gallery

Pic # 15… Anyone else misread that on first glance?? Seems like a pretty rhetorical question for Kaner to be asked…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

THe glove adjustment is good too

I bet hes flipping Q the bird there.

Grumpy Fuck

by laaarmer on Sep 19, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

and not a single puck was given that day

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rusty is a pretty funny guy

Olesz on why being a Blackhawk is better than being a Panther:
“More than 3 guys can handle the puck.”

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by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

This line was amusing

“Of all the players that skated in any capacity on Saturday, the guy that appeared to be the furthest from being an NHL player was John Scott. He was the slowest skater on the ice, including Troy Murray and Joel Quenneville.”

by Paul the Fossil on Sep 19, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

This, Oh my God let this be true!
Jonathan Toews was in mid-season form, and appeared to be a man playing with boys. He beat Ray Emery for a breakaway goal during the first scrimmage. If his play during a scrimmage this morning is any indication, Toews is ready for a big-time season.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, Is it October 7th yet?
Recovering rec whore.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 19, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shitstorm?

Not really. I can recall several considerably worse than last year, within the last 6 years too.

Grumpy Fuck

by laaarmer on Sep 19, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Would it have been acceptable if he had said something along the lines of "relatively speaking, that shitstorm...."

I hoping several years from now people look back on seasons and seasons full of deep playoff runs and looking at last year as a low point of the Toews/Keith era…

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by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, not acceptable

Shitstorm = New Jersey last season. At least in my opinion, and really, who’s opinion matters more than mine?

Grumpy Fuck

by laaarmer on Sep 19, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really cheering for Emery to make the team

and much though I winced about that goal going in, no way was he going to stop it. Tazer looked awesome fighting for that partial breakaway.

all right, this isn't going to be big on dignity

by boldmatter on Sep 19, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

/facepalm

Let’s not put too much (as in, any) credence into “insight” from Tab.

Sami Lepisto wasn’t impressive at all. If Saturday’s action determined the depth chart for the season opener, Lepisto would be your sixth or seventh defenseman.

Really Tab? 6th or 7th on the depth chart? Not ahead of Keith, Seabs, Hjammer, Leddy, or Monty? Way to go out on a limb there.

the guy that appeared to be the furthest from being an NHL player was John Scott. He was the slowest skater on the ice

John Scott, slow? Say it ain’t so! This is right in line with his observation a couple of weeks ago that Rockford should be really big this year because they’ve got a lot of tall guys.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

$infity (that's right, an infinite sum of money) says that if there were some way

to discount the number of votes that Tab got from people who thought they were actually voting for Sam’s paper, Tab wouldn’t have even come close to sniffing the top 10…

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Still to hear anybody say Toews looks like he is in midseason form will put a smile in my face

And a load in Goalies underwear.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, Is it October 7th yet?
Recovering rec whore.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 19, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would think a load in most Hawks players underwear.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're thinking of different sides of the underwear / different loads...

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

The guy seems like a d-bag

I remember seeing him on Chicago Tribune Live and just assumed Kaplan spent too much time at the tanning salon and forgot to research who actually had some valuable insight…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bamford has been a CTL?

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

A couple of times..

I think April of this year was the last time… Kinda looks like Chris Kuc’s retarded brother… oh wait, just his brother…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

ZING

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey McClure

This must be Sam’s twitter account, right? @CommittedIndian

Since Tab isn’t piggybacking on the CI’s success, it definitely couldn’t be Tab’s. I mean, since @CommittedIndianS (with the ‘S’ which is the name of this blog) is still readily available on Twitter, Tab surely would have gone with that name to avoid any possible confusion.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jeez.

Can’t believe i didn’t notice this before.

I agree with Boris. D-baaag.

by oregon_hawk on Sep 19, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

er, "his" blog, not "this" blog

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

...and that pic doesn't even include Hossa-Bolland or Hjammer...

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or John Scott...

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Just the thought of that made me do this on my keyboard…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

TARNATION!

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, I'll be sure not to mention his name again...

/ clicks title

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

John Scott John Scott John Scott

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by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

The whole episode was hilarious.....start to finish.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

What show is this?

I need to check it out.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 19, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've missed the last 2 seasons (only seen through season 3)

but that’s what I was going to guess. From the FX symbol at the bottom to that clearly being Frank (Danny DeVito for those of you not familiar with the show) in the drivers seat to that being the exact sort of scene that I would expect from Always Sunny. Phenomenal show. I can’t actually tell who the puker / pukee are – is that Sweet D?

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Puker..

= Charlie…
Pukee = random chick on a blind date with Charlie…
Cause of puking = eating “like 100 blood caplets”

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Puker = Charlie is of absolutely no surprise

I didn’t think that was Sweet D, but I couldn’t think of anyone else who it could be so it being a random girl on a blind date with Charlie makes sense

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by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Greatest. Show. Ever.

Another good episode to check out is the one where Mac gets to shoot in between periods at a Flyers game…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

WILDCARD BITCHES!!

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Sep 19, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I LIKE FRENCH FRIED TATERS"

He is totally pulling a Karl from Slingblade…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pic no worky worky

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, Is it October 7th yet?
Recovering rec whore.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 19, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's from last season

I photoshopped Toews as Popeye.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kane - "Look at that Sharpie"

Sharp – “Is he gonna bite Seabs?”
Keith – “What’s happening?”
Toews – “MMMM HMMMM”

Grumpy Fuck

by laaarmer on Sep 19, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

He looks like he forgot to put his dentures on

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Sep 19, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seabs

coming in with a fist to the face of Tazer for having his arm around his man…

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

The just mispelled a word obviously
Can Canucks handle Presidents Trophy Cup hangover?

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, Is it October 7th yet?
Recovering rec whore.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 19, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pot Shot?
"In this city, you are going to have that pressure on you to perform," Daniel Sedin said when explaining why the Canucks won’t be subject to a hangover. "Maybe it could be different in an American market."

by Speed3 on Sep 19, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

What pressure? In that city, if you lose, you just pretend you win.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

In Vancouver...

If you lose, you just burn all of the evidence and blame the communists…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or the NHL

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or the NHL

or the capitalist, Chicago, Montreal fans, calgary fans etc… Just deflect the blame toanyone! And in no way shape or form acknowledge that your team or city might have done something wrong.

by Speed3 on Sep 19, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its a shame that such a beautiful part of the world in inhabited by such fuckbags.

Sort of like Cuba.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will actually (begrudgingly) give the city of Vancouver some credit ...

I was stuck in their airport for about 19 hours when around the time between game 4 & 5 of the Cup Finals, fully clad in my Hawks jersey. . They had the airport decked out in Nucks’ paraphenalia and all the employees were wearing Nucks’ jerseys. It was really cool until I had to actually talk to them… They were less than helpful sub-human organisms… Truly the definition of a waste of oxygen…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Instead of Honk and Donk

Should we just start calling them Mork and Orson?

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

OMFG... I love it.

I can hear Foley now… Instead of “Where’s Daniel, where’s Daniel?”

“Mork calling Orson, come in Orson!”

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by Powrfwd37 on Sep 19, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anytime I go awhile without seeing the Canucks jerseys, I forget just how awful they really are.

Disgusting.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Typical Sedin comment

I know this doesn’t have much to do with this, but, I live in Europe, and I have met quite a few Swedes who actually despise the Twins….and a buddy of mine who worked in Sweden for a bit claims that a lot of Swedes in Stockholm call them the Sedin Sisters all the time!

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Sep 19, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's not too surprising

no one in Sweden prolly likes reminders of their past prostrations in front of bad guys.

by Waylon on Sep 19, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It might just be me

but that picture of Halak looks like a less psychotic version of Bolland

Halak
Bolland

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Sep 19, 2011 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

The Hawks got Halak! Boom!

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by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

S-H IT's

close enough

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Sep 19, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not there.....but it sounds like Alec Richards is getting fuck up at the scrimmage today.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Brunette-Toews-Kane

I know there’s been talk that Brunette and Kaner on the same line doesn’t make much sense because they essentially do the same thing (which I mostly disagree with), but I really like this line for a number of reasons:

1. It follows Q’s formula of “puck-winner (Brunette), playmaker (Kane), finisher (Toews)” to a tee.

2. It allows Toews to be a bigger factor on defense because as the finisher, instead of puck-winner, he won’t be stuck below the goal line so often and can get back on defense faster. (something McClure alluded to a year ago – see I actually retain some useful info)

3. Piggybacking off of #2: When Sharp’s skates with Toews and Kaner, Toews is the puck-winner, which leaves Sharp and Kane as the primary defenders. You can’t have everything, but this definitely isn’t optimal.

4. I know many aren’t open to the idea of Frolik on the 2nd line, but Sharp as the finisher and Hossa as the puck-winner is a good start. If Frolik can be coached to “pass first” I contend that he’s the best playmaker remaining on the roster (outside of Bolland).

5. Frolik is left-handed, so that should theoretically work well with Hossa.

I just can’t imagine that Frolik isn’t going to get an early crack at the 2nd line. The kid’s got a high hockey IQ from what I’ve seen so far, and last year was a small sample size (for me at least) to jump to the conclusion that this won’t work.

I also like the idea of Frolik in a playmaker role because he’ll still get plenty of shots, but he should also get higher quality shots as compared to last season. He wouldn’t be forced to take outside shots – and would in fact be discouraged from doing so. I can only see this boosting his confidence.

Thoughts?

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

The question is whether or not Frolik can really be trained to be a pass first type of player

I agree that he seems to have a high hockey IQ, and I certainly liked what I saw from him in a ‘Hawks sweater last season (other than his un-sustainably shooting percentage), but the fact is that he has always been a shoot first type of guy and it’s really hard to train that out of someone. I like Frolik, and you’re probably correct that he’ll have every opportunity to earn that last spot in the top 6, but I just have a hard time seeing him being able to so dramatically change his style of play to be the passer / playmaker that Hossa and Sharp really need and thus I have a hard time seeing him stick there long-term

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

The only time Frolik became effective was when he was on Bolland’s line in a counter-punch role, where the Hawks didn’t have the puck as much as the other team did. If Sharp is too shoosty to be on Hossa’s line, putting Frolik there only exacerbates that problem. We saw Hossa’s visible frustration with Frolik firing from bad angles last year when they shared time on a line. I just fear that with that offensive zone possessions will result in one shot and then back the other way.

There are 3 2-man combos that we know work: 19-81, 88-10, 36-67. The idea should be to find the best complimentary pieces to those “known knowns” while distributing those combinations across 3 lines. That should result in scoring depth not many can deal with.

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It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame

by McClure on Sep 19, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

How many times does Stan Bowman have to jock 29-36-67 before people get it?

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least 5 more times

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not that I don't "get it"

I’m pretty sure I do. But how many games was that line together? A handful? Not a big enough sample size for me (or likely Q) to say “This is permanent.”

There are too many other pieces that also need to fit to set that in stone. Olesz and Smith likely get looks on that line.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't mean to imply that. Sorry if you took it that way.

I agree 100% the generator will be spun at some point and you’ll see guys going everywhere. I just think off all of our lines, that one will stay the most consistent.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The problem for me in all of this line juggling always comes back to Olesz

He himself stated over the weekend that his knee is not 100%. So if there were concerns about him before, they should be greater now. People have him penciled in for a tryout on the top 6. I don’t see it early on.

I still think he makes the roster although a stint in Rockford might not be bad. I don’t believe anyone would blink at him going through re-entry waivers, so it wouldn’t be a concern.

If he makes the squad, I see him on the 3rd or 4th lines (maybe 4th early on to give his knee some time to strengthen). But due to his salary, he’d be the joke of the NHL skating on the 4th line, so no way in hell Q doesn’t try to make it work with him on the 3rd.

That of course could lead to Bickell on the 4th line, so Olesz-Bolland-Frolik might be a possibility. I just don’t see Bickell-Bolland-Frolik being “a thing” like everyone else, even if it works. Maybe we see it at times this season, and they reunite for he playoff tour.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the key component of that third line is 36-67

Interchanging Bickell and Olsez might not make that much difference as Olsez is probably more like Bickell than any other Hawk. For what it’s worth, apparently Rusty is dominating the scrimmages today.

I can’t wait to see how this all shakes out.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the key component of that third line is 36-67

Probably the best observation of the day. I don’t disagree. Very similar to the Bolland-Versteeg combo.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heavy lifters on the wing.

Hawks had one “heavy lifter defensive winger” last year in Bickell. Team added two more from Florida in Frolik and Olesz. Would be totally shocked if the Hawks third line wasn’t made up of two of those three. And mildly shocked if the third line right wing wasn’t Frolik.

by DaleHalas on Sep 19, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

My 3rd line is Bolland with a combo of Bickell, Olesz and/or Frolik. Ans like I said, maybe Smith gets a shot at some point.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bolland Versteeg.

I don’t agree with this.

The key component to the cup winning Bolland line was Ladd. He did everything and is being rewarded for it now (although he is stuck in Manitoba for a while). Versteeg is being bounced around the league, and will probably continue to be because he is one of the most frustrating players to watch and most likely play with. He is high reward at times. Kane is too, but his reward far outweighs his risk. Kaner will do a spin o rama, but it will be down low. Versteeg will toe drag at center ice. Stupid player. Do I have a point? Yes! Frolik, as you are saying is cpmparable Versteeg. God help us all season if we can’t find a 1/2 Ladd. Bolland will be worn down covering up for Frolik. So who is a proven puck winner that can contribute offensively? Is it Bickell, Olesz, or Smith? Mayers? I don’t know, but if that player doesn’t perform, Dave is going to have to work even harder all season.

Grumpy Fuck

by laaarmer on Sep 20, 2011 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ladd and Bolland

My belt holds my pants up, but the belt loops hold my belt up. I don’t really know what’s happening down there. Who is the real hero? – Mitch Hedberg

Last year they were separated, both played center, Ladd prolly had better wingers but worse D, they both played against top lines, and Ladd was a -10 while Bolland was a +11.

All of Ladd’s increased production last year came via special teams. He did not play on special teams in Chicago.

He did not step up his game so much as continuing to perform based on expanded opportunities.

It seems clear to me after last year that the key to Dave Bolland’s game is not Marty Havlat or Kris Versteeg or Andrew Ladd, but Dave Bolland. In this way, he’s kinda like a mini-Toews.

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by cliffkoroll on Sep 20, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

with crazier eyes

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 20, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bolland is the constant.

He is the key, no doubt. I hope he stays healthy. The point I am trying to get across is that Bolland needs complimentary players around him, just like Toews. If Bolland has to go in the corners all the time to win the puck, he cannot be effective in his defensive role through the middle. Frolik is not going to be the board battler. Who will fill the board battler role on Bolland’s line?

For that matter, who fills it for Sharp and Toews? I see above that we don’t think it’s Brunette. Who the fuck is it?

Top 6
Toews
Kane
Sharp
Hossa
Brunette
Olesz – Stalberg – Bickell

Grumpy Fuck

by laaarmer on Sep 20, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure exactly where I stated that Frolik is the exact same player as Versteeg?

But way to take the ball and run with it – and use examples from the year after to illustrate your point.

Hey, I know Ladd is a very good player, but all the Ladd love here is often over the top. In 2009, he had a career year playing on a talented line. In 2010, not so much; it was solid.

And prior to 2009? He never even played a full season and his numbers were less than impressive (look ’em up). He never even topped 11 goals in a season. Actually, he never broke 17 goals as a Hawk and only had 20 even-strength goals last year playing on the top line.

If Ladd was so incredible, why didn’t he get special teams time? We often judge other players by this, but somehow it doesn’t apply to the folk hero, Andrew Ladd. Versteeg, whose defense is often overlooked, was a force on the PK. Even minimum wager Bryan Bickell had a better year statistically in 2011 than Ladd did in 2010. Ladd, who’s now making $4.4M. Can you say “overpaid?”

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

but... but... he's Andrew Ladd!

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 20, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Frank

Tell me you would rather have Rusty over Ladd. Go ahead.

Grumpy Fuck

by laaarmer on Sep 20, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Never said that

mostly because I have never seen Rusty play before and have absolutely no fucking clue if he’s any good. But there are some parallels – Ladd cracked 20 points just once with the Hurricanes and seemed incapable of staying healthy for a full season before we acquired him in the trade that sent Tuomo Ruutu the other way. We got pretty lucky with how well Ladd worked out for us, but he still wasn’t exactly god-like – his 34 assists in 2008-‘09 are his career high, and he maxed out at 17 goals for the ’Hawks in 2009-’10. He potted 29 last year with Atlantapeg and 30 assists to get up to 59 points, but there he was getting the top line and PP minutes that he never got in Chicago and he was still only a 0.73 PPG player – good but not great.

The point is that we put Andrew Ladd on a pedestal here. I’m not saying that he wasn’t missed last year, I’m not saying that I wouldn’t have loved to have him back, and I’m not saying I’d rather have Rusty. I’m just agreeing with CNS that Andrew Ladd is not the end-all-be-all of LW’s that a lot of people around here like to pretend that he is.

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by FrankStallone on Sep 20, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stats are my favorite.

We need a player this season to play hard and tough and win the puck in battles. There I did not say the name that shall not be said. He did that. This team has goal scorers and fast skaters. Who, after Toews and Hossa can consistently win a battle on the boards? If we ask Bolland to do it consistently, it’s going to be bad.

Where is the board battle winning stat?

Grumpy Fuck

by laaarmer on Sep 20, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who is the missing board battler?

I’d say Kyle Beach should be that guy, but he’s not. Not yet. Will he ever be? Good question. Can’t discuss…Frank says off-limits.
(haha just fuckin’ with ya Frank, kinda)

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 20, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Best board battler on the team this year that is NOT a core player?

Olesz. And it’s not even close.

Hawks have three defensive minded players this year. Which is two more then last year. And I will take Bickell and Olesz as a tandem over Ladd if I can have Frolik on the other side over Versteeg.

Versteeg and Ladd were better “fillins” on the top lines but for purely defensive checking line players, I’ll take the three over the two. Especially if Smith matures into a fourth.

by DaleHalas on Sep 20, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ladd is a solid player capable willing to do things others are not

Versteeg is a good player and not overly smart. However, I wish he was still on the Blackhawks, but he is not.

Ladd is not a superstar and I am not slobbing over his talent. I wish HE as still a Blackhawk, but he is not.
The question is on the third line or whatever you want to call it, with Bolland as the constant, as he should be, who fills in the other roles. If Frolik is one of those players, you will need a banger/puck winner as they say, and who is it?

Grumpy Fuck

by laaarmer on Sep 20, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure where the mystery in this question is?

Simple answer: Bickell and Olesz, maybe Smith gets a shot.

Oh wait, that’s right. Bickell is soft even though he was 2nd on the team and among the league leaders in Hits/TOI. I forgot that they weren’t “quality hits.”

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never said Bickell was soft.

He’s bige and will definitely bring some physical presence. Hossa and Toews will too, but like you have said, do we want them to. Kane can win on the boards too, not phisically, but with his stick. Again, do we want him to.

Olesz. We got a lot riding on him. I hope he’s what you think he is.

Grumpy Fuck

by laaarmer on Sep 20, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Olesz is definately a wild card coming into the season...

Since expectations/past performances indicate he is “just a guy” at the NHL level, anything we can get out of him should be a plus. It seems as if the general consensus is that he has a lot of talent but can’t stay healthy enough or consistent enough game to game to make an impact. If he does, it doesn’t seem like too much of a stretch to say he could be a contributor to the 3rd/4th line. Who knows? Maybe we get lucky and he ends up being an Andrew Ladd type who finally got healthy enough to fulfill his draft status…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

This
There are 3 2-man combos that we know work: 19-81, 88-10, 36-67. The idea should be to find the best complimentary pieces to those "known knowns" while distributing those combinations across 3 lines.

That sums it up and it seems like it should be so simple to do.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

complimentary?

et tu, dano?

also, 19-88 has worked ok from time to time.

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by cliffkoroll on Sep 19, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had a good weekend, what can I say?

19 and anything works well. 88 and anything works well. No doubt 19 and 88 is a great duo. But is it the best use of their talent on the same line?

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by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

+/- from last year

1st line 19-88 plus 26, 2nd line 10-81 minus 1 for a combined plus 25.

1st line 19-81 plus 6, 2nd line 10-88 minus 5 for a combined plus 1.

by DaleHalas on Sep 19, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You and your numbers

19-88 plus 26 is impressive but are we a one line team? 82 and 81 were fairly useless together on the 2nd line. Who was the 3rd on those two lines when they were split? We had a bunch of spare parts filling in the holes. To me, that’s the key.

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by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

And who do you have on the team (besides Toews)

that can cover for the defensive liabilities that are Kane or Sharp?

Let alone good enough to cover for both of them on the same line?

by DaleHalas on Sep 19, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is McClure's fight.
That sums it up and it seems like it should be so simple to do.

I was just trying to be supportive for a change.

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by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know it will never happen

But I would be a proponent of splitting up DDN… I think the most logical fit for the top two lines would include the following:

Brunette – Toews – Hossa
Frolik – Sharp – Kane

I completely agree that Frolik should be top 6, and again, I agree that in the role of playmaker he might struggle. One of the things I see from him that I like the most is his strength on the puck and responsible 2-way play. On a line with Sharp and Kaner, he would probably be the “puck-winner”, leaving Kane as “playmaker” and Sharp as finisher. Sharp and Kaner already have excellent chemistry so I don’t think there would be an offensice output issue.. I think in that role he could definately be successful and would get more scoring oppurtunites around the net with Kaner and Sharp playing the outside. It would also allow for Q to (finally) put Hossa in a postion to excel by having Toews as his Center…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's your 3rd line in this instance?

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

3rd Line

Bickell – Bolland – Smith

If the Hawks intend on using Bolland as the ultimate 3rd Line checking center, I think Smith would be a reliable partner for him and Bickell the 6-4 midget. Since Bickell just wants to play around outside the circles, Smith has shown briefly that he is willing to go to the net and plays a style that would complement Bolland well.

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL
Bickell the 6-4 midget

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 19, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

So who's on the 4th then?

I do like your top 2 lines, skeptical about your 3rd’s impact on the 4th….

Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.

by hawkeytalk on Sep 19, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Carcillo-Mayers-Stalberg?

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bingo

With the option of plugging in Rusty at RW after Q murders Stalberg on the first roadtrip…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 12:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I mentioned this configuration as an option too

but I see Rusty getting the first shot there over Smith. I wasn’t too impressed with Smith in the defensive zone last year.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Smith could

be a great addition to the 4th. Without being captain obvious, the overall goal is to be able to roll 4 lines consistently and confidently. Smith on the 4th helps get us there.

Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.

by hawkeytalk on Sep 19, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

and he could flip from wing to center when Mayers needs a rest.

On the other hand, it’s quite conceivable Smith centers that line regardless. Smith centered in college. He switched back to wing last year in Rockford.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again though, with Frolik as the puck-winner

1) I didn’t see that as his strength, and 2) Sharp and Kane are the primary defenders. Doesn’t really work for me.

I would have Brunette instead on a line with Sharp and Kane. Let him be the digger since he’s made a career of it. Toews and Hossa together are great in the corners, so Brunette is overkill. So, I see something more like:

Stalberg-Toews-Hossa
Brunette-Sharp-Kane

Hey, I’m open to a number of possibilities, since we know we’ll see them. I just think we’ll see something like I suggested more than others do.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 19, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

In all sense of reality

I think your right… my proposal is more indicative of a pipe dream that Froliks upside resembles a K-Mart Blue Lite Special version of Hossa… besides with Q on the bench we will probably be blessed with the opportunity of seeing Carcillo on the top line… reference my vomiting post above for reaction…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 12:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Brunette-Sharp-Kane

I thought you were backchecking.
Oh! I thought YOU were backchecking.
Guys- I’m too old and slow to backcheck.

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by cliffkoroll on Sep 19, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there's a slovak in there somewhere

Enjoy it while it lasts Boston, cause the Hawks are coming to take back what is ours.

by AngryGiant on Sep 19, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know, just tried to sneak Hossa in there...

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mike Danton saved a life

link

I am a meat popsicle
SCH's resident 8 year old

by LanceFister3 on Sep 19, 2011 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

The worst part is when he had to play for the Blues...

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not really link-worthy...

But here is a catchy little ditty I was able to cook up…

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by Forklift14 on Sep 19, 2011 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Video of Shaw v. Carcillo

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/7738034-419/daniel-carcillo-andrew-shaw-scuffle-in-blackhawks-scrimmage.html

If you watch this, you are a meathead who doesn’t actually like hockey.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Whoops, actually no video. Dam you Adam Jahns.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

aww, how sweet

Carcillo was sticking up for Stalberg.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 19, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I stepped in because we need Stalberg to be healthy in order to trade him"

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

?

Toews, Bruno, and Rusty?

It could happen…

this combination of ballet and murder ♥

by JuliaM on Sep 19, 2011 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

No it can't, unless were putting Hossa on the 3rd line.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess my it could happen

was directed toward Rusty dominating anything.

this combination of ballet and murder ♥

by JuliaM on Sep 19, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, that is quite a surprise.

Putting aside reality for a second, if that guy showed up and played well it would be a major shot in the arm for the Hawks. Would also give us a big advantage at the trade deadline…

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bolland being a troll

From Twitter:

Chris Boden: “Bolland treating Toews like Sedin or Thornton”

Tracey Myers: “Bolland annoying the hell out of Toews. Hooking him. #Blackhawks”

by amadeus on Sep 19, 2011 1:13 PM CDT reply actions  

i.e. Bolland being Bolland, it's why we love him

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by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dear Stan

Please never let him play for any team besides the Hawks.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Signed, every single 'Hawks fan

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree...

He can also play for Team Canada

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bingo!

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, it's on now, Badger, it's on...

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well mine rhymes with "Bucky"...

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now we all know which team REALLY MATTERS in Wisconsin ...

The Champs!

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by hawks61 on Sep 19, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wisconsin team

You must have meant this picture of Burish:

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

leaked photo of Badger's wife?

Not cool, Saskjet. Not cool.
However I must say, with all due respect, Mrs. Badger is quite the looker!

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 19, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

OK, I have so many things I could say about that mouth but none of them are appropriate for this forum.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just this one that does ...

the one that’s celebrating the GOLD!

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by hawks61 on Sep 19, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

You Canucks are so funny...

You didn’t see us making a big deal out of it when the US won the gold in 1980. Well, mainly because you kids weren’t “incepted” yet. LOL

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, only a movie or two about it. And a reference to it every time the Olympics rolls around, which is understandable since it’s the only time in the modern era the U.S. has ever won Gold.

Don’t be grumpy pops, don’t be hatin’ on us Canadians we’re good folk eh? Here. Let me pour old gramps a beer and take him to the Curling club or the Legion.

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by hawks61 on Sep 19, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

"DO YOU BELIEVE IN...MEEEERACCCLES????!!!!!!!!" DO YA???? HUH???WHAT????

Yeah, not a big deal at all…

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

See?

Saskjet gets it

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bah!

When WE won it was college kids against the Evil Empire and we had to skate up hill and in the snow. So, yeah!

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW, this was a MUCH bigger moment, when a tiny underdog country of 20 million slew the Red Menace on its own turf...

Extra credit for Americans only: Name the 3 awesome players in the pic

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

One is Phil Esposito

I dont know the rest, and I don’t give a shit. Its Canada.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Phil Esposito on left. The guy in the foreground looks like Johnny Bench. LOL

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good, you both fail at hockey.../ suspicions confirmed

L to R: Phil Esposito, Yvan Cournoyer (a Canadien, but still…), and the sainted Paul Henderson who scored the goal that ripped the heart out of the Soviet Machine.

(Did I mention he’s from a tiny, impoverished country that overcame insurmountable odds to crush the Red Devils?)

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

You must have missed this
and I don’t give a shit. Its Canada.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is slowly going down a road that nobody needs to read nor continue to go on.

Let’s just end this line of stupidity shall we?

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by hawks61 on Sep 19, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only if you promise never to post Packers stuff here again.

Just like the last time

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

.333

That’s a $10MM batter in baseball. I should have guessed Cournoyer but I was thinking Frank Mahovlich.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck Cournoyer

…still asshurt over 71 and 73.

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by Forklift14 on Sep 20, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Canadiens are nice

We all know because they told us so.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know some nice ones.

Some of my best friends are black jewish gay Canadian.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

"Canadiens are nice"

We all know, because they never fail to tell us.

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 19, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

plus they have charities

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 19, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

And they know how to party!

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Second City Hockey, Is it October 7th yet?
Recovering rec whore.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 19, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Canadians =/= "Canucks"

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Canuck

1. Somebody from Canada
2. An offensive term for a French-Canadian person

Let’s not start any border wars though. You guys are all OK as long as you root for the Hawks first and the Leafs second.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hawks first, second, and third...don't give a fuck about anyone else

We are in agreement…

/ regrets Wikileaking Mrs Badger’s photo

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 19, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

I’m OK with that leak.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 19, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck the Maple Leafs … all the way to hell. Wait, playing for that team already is a sentence.

Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.

"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."

by hawks61 on Sep 19, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

also why he makes the other players around him better

I don’t know how important practice in hockey is regarding other sports, but I would tend to think that Bolly’s annoying traits only help his teammates come gametime.

by Waylon on Sep 19, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

God bless Ilya Bryzgalov.

From twitter:

RT SlavaMalamud by mirtle
Bryz: “Walked my dog this morning, almost froze to death. Quick, home, get a jacket. Then it hits me – I GOT NO JACKET! Didn’t need 1 in AZ”

by Steeg of their own on Sep 19, 2011 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL

Even more proof that 7+ mildo per year can’t buy you a brain… “Off to see the wizard…”

by Boris Mironov on Sep 19, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

So he only played home games last year

LOL

Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.

by hawkeytalk on Sep 19, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

While there are 4 preseason games going on today

I can only find a link to one stream

Sens @ Leafs 7pm Est
http://www.veetle.com/index.php/chan…#4e779acecf86e

Enjoy it while it lasts Boston, cause the Hawks are coming to take back what is ours.

by AngryGiant on Sep 19, 2011 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

According to the NHL network (at least it's in my guide)

It looks like they are showing that game tonight.

That's right folks the Hawks hope and kool-aid is back.

by stacie7 on Sep 19, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

that link wasn't working

this one is

http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4e762826b1fdc

at least it’s hockey

Enjoy it while it lasts Boston, cause the Hawks are coming to take back what is ours.

by AngryGiant on Sep 19, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's a video up on Nhl.com

with Shanahan explaining the new rules for head shots and boarding calls- with video examples.

by CapnHook11 on Sep 19, 2011 4:49 PM CDT reply actions  

basically

don’t hit anyone in the head – end of story

That's right folks the Hawks hope and kool-aid is back.

by stacie7 on Sep 19, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see him practicing his excuses

It wasn’t malicious – I swear. He bent down and his head hit my elbow. Didn’t you see it? I was behind the net too. Isn’t that the free-for-all zone?

That's right folks the Hawks hope and kool-aid is back.

by stacie7 on Sep 19, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I didn't hit him in the head!"

“Your elbow hit him right above the ear.”
“Ohhh, that head”

I am a meat popsicle
SCH's resident 8 year old

by LanceFister3 on Sep 19, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

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