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Out Of The Races And Onto The Tracks - Oilers 4, Hawks 2


Now it's hockey season. Doesn't it feel good? Some thoughts coming away from the first pre-season game

  • Big Brother Toews just might have a future in this league. Young David...well, it beats a junior year of college, doesn't it?
  • On to some of the new guys. First up: Ray Emery. Razor looked good on a few scrambles in close, but was fooled on the two goals on shots originating from long distance, which speaks to him not having his angles fully down and relying on his instincts and athleticism. For his sake, those angles better come back soon, because Alex Salak looked solid and positively huge in the crease in the second half of the game, but that size did him in on the late Eberle goal, as the puck found the in-between area.
  • So Rostislav Olesz just might be able to play. He had fantastic chemistry with Toews all night as he's reported to have had so far in camp. From my vantage point, he looks to have very good instincts away from the puck, and puts himself in a position to be found. Again, Toews clearly has something to do with that, as does facing off against Oiler bums (present and future), but Viktor Stalberg just still can't seem to find it. If Rusty is just slightly above "a guy", it helps with scoring depth tremendously.
  • HEY KIDS!
  • Leddy looked good except when engaging in physical battles, and he and Montador look more than capable of running a second power play unit. Montador is very paitent with the puck in that situation.
  • Sami Lepisto looked fine, making sound decisions and boasting a fair amount of mobility. If Montador and Lepisto are the third pairing breaking camp, that about as good a compliment to the blue line depth that can be paid. 
  • For being the heir apparent to the 2nd line center position, Ben Smith was pretty invisible, wasn't he Jesse?
  • John Scott is still fucking atrocious.
  • FANS IN SECTION K IF YOU WOULD LIKE ICE CREAM SANDWICHES FOR YOUR KIDS.....
  • Glad to see the clown shoes still fit.
  • Mark McNeill and Brandon Saad stood out as far as the rookies are concerned. Saad seemed to relish opportunities to use his body to sheild the puck and take it to the hard areas of the ice, and McNeill made a nice play on the Mayers goal. Kyle Beach is still trying to get more than 2 braincells to fire simultaneously as this is being written.

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holy quick recap, batman.

Good choice sir, that's lobster stuffed with tacos

by Banjo Legs on Sep 20, 2011 10:27 PM CDT reply actions  

This has got to be

the fastest game summary in SCH history. The game just ended about 1 minute ago.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 20, 2011 10:27 PM CDT reply actions  

hahahaha I'm dying
HEY KIDS!
FANS IN SECTION K IF YOU WOULD LIKE ICE CREAM SANDWICHES FOR YOUR KIDS…..

by girlphoenix on Sep 20, 2011 10:32 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

DYING

just found a new signature.

FANS IN SECTION K IF YOU WOULD LIKE ICE CREAM SANDWICHES FOR YOUR KIDS.....

by docks on Sep 20, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Don't die, you'll miss the regular seas... HNNNNNNGGGGG!

They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!

by Say Ramrod on Sep 21, 2011 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

My poor ears!!!!!!

The webcast itself was clown shoes.

Puckin' Hostile
-Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.-
-At least he's not Cam Janssen. What a bag of dicks that guy is.-

by G8K33P3R on Sep 21, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

what did the 50/50 end at?

Sometimes too much to drink is barely enough.

by capra on Sep 20, 2011 10:33 PM CDT reply actions  

$29,300ish, i think

all right, this isn't going to be big on dignity

by boldmatter on Sep 20, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the winner got around $29,000

That’s insane.

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by HappyHuman on Sep 20, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but it's all in loonies.

Don't mind me, I'm just here to sit on the bench and mock McDouche

by Marty-notimportant-Turco on Sep 20, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Meaning its now worth even more

as $1 Canadian now gets you about $1.10 U.S.

by Paul the Fossil on Sep 20, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but they're a bitch to carry.

Don't mind me, I'm just here to sit on the bench and mock McDouche

by Marty-notimportant-Turco on Sep 20, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

*SAMMICH

must be internet yelled in all caps as well

FANS IN SECTION K IF YOU WOULD LIKE ICE CREAM SAMMICHES FOR YOUR KIDS.....

by docks on Sep 20, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dint get a Ice Cream SAMMICH!!!

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 20, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad that you also find this so hilarious

FANS IN SECTION K IF YOU WOULD LIKE ICE CREAM SAMMICHES FOR YOUR KIDS.....

by docks on Sep 20, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

So good it's DQ

i mean ri-DQ-lous!!

Where are we going? And why are we all in this hand-basket??

by Sgarbs04 on Sep 20, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

these x inifinity
For being the heir apparent to the 2nd line center position, Ben Smith was pretty invisible, wasn’t he Jesse?
 John Scott is still fucking atrocious.

Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.

by hawkeytalk on Sep 20, 2011 10:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Laaarmer'd

Though I still believe Ben Fucking Smith makes the team on the 4th line. John Scott looked a little fster, and apparently hit someone, but still an emphatic NO.

Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.

by hawkeytalk on Sep 20, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the Spin-o-rama poke check

that has to earn at least a few brownie points

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

John Scott Spin-o-rama poke check (that was successful)

Your argument is invalid

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

John Scott attack of vertigo flail- check (that was lucky)

I am right

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 20, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

But I mean

did you see how BIG he was?

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

he looked to be at least 6'8"

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 21, 2011 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I must have missed tht

The stream was relly hard to follow.

Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.

by hawkeytalk on Sep 20, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was right behind our net

my chin now has a bruise on it

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

plus following the action here on SCH....

mde it all that much more difficult.

Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.

by hawkeytalk on Sep 20, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

In defense of John Scott...

OK, I got nothing.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can help

Seems like a nice guy, was well liked in Houghton. Seems fairly bright. Is really good at picking those apples way up near the top of the tree.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 21, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hockey Season.

Feels Good, Man.

Like I said in the other thread I didn’t think Lepisto looked bad. I am happy. Ben Smith was . ehhh, but I think he’s 4th line Bumslayer material too.

by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Sep 20, 2011 10:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Context is important here

it is preseason, but you’re also playing against half a roster of Junior/AHL guys. If you’re invisible or worse against them, how will you be against full NHL rosters? The solid NHL guys show why they are NHLers, and not a step lower, in these games.

by ImpersonatingTheEagle on Sep 20, 2011 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

Stals can’t seem to bury any opportunities. His hands are pretty terrible and I don’t expect that to change this season. He likely won’t be seeing much time in the top 6.

Disagree on Leddy and Monty running the 2nd PP unit. I thought they were below average and would rather see a mix of Sharp/Keith/Seabs+someone good playing the point.

Saad seemed nervous all game. He had the puck on his stick fairly often but didn’t do much with it. There were a few times when he shot it from a distance when it seemed like he could have skated in a bit closer. He has talent, that much is clear, but he needs some time to develop. McNeill was good though. I thought he had a solid game all around.

Good to be watching hockey again.

by Ban on Sep 20, 2011 10:41 PM CDT reply actions  

literally said to my roommate,

as we sat in our living room, watching the feed on separate computers, “So I see Stalberg’s still got hands of stone” on that first setup from Tazer (I think).

all right, this isn't going to be big on dignity

by boldmatter on Sep 20, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish Leddy had put on more weight then he did this summer

but otherwise agree that he looked good.

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by justforkicks on Sep 20, 2011 10:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I posted it the GDT, but I will say it again:

considering the way that Olesz played tonight and so far in camp, how close do you think Stals is to do doing unspeakable and unsavory things for money/regular minutes.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Sep 20, 2011 10:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Judging from how weak and slow Stals' hands were I think he has already started that party...

Olesz looked great though. I only got to see part of the second and the third period but was impressed. Granted my expectation were pretty low coming into camp but so far so good…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 21, 2011 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Quick question

Do mods ever delete comments? Somebody earlier said “me fucking gusta” and I commented on it. Can’t find the original comment or any replies following it. Don’t know if I’m crazy or just blind.

by Ban on Sep 20, 2011 10:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I've had comments disappear as well

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

SBN just doesn't like you, Desert.

(hehehe…)

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.

by ahnfire on Sep 20, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

>.>

<.<

Mhmm

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read that as dessert

and now I want an icecream sammich

That's right folks the Hawks hope and kool-aid is back.

by stacie7 on Sep 20, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe you mean

ICE CREAM SAMMICH111

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awww it deleted some of my exclamation points and ones

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

that was me.

this combination of ballet and murder ♥

by JuliaM on Sep 20, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

wouldn't say offended

a bit uncomfortable maybe. it’s really no big deal.

this combination of ballet and murder ♥

by JuliaM on Sep 20, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aha

this happened to me once, Johnny. Once. I thought it was just a technical snafu- I didn’t recall the comments were particularly offensive, but…

Anyhoo, cool, Orwellian. I can dig.

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by cliffkoroll on Sep 21, 2011 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hardly ever do it

so it probably was technical in your case.

this combination of ballet and murder ♥

by JuliaM on Sep 21, 2011 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I did it

mentally

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by westy99 on Sep 21, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

eh

i prolly had it coming. plus, badge of oppression and all.

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Sep 21, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Orwellian

Great way to describe the feeling I had last night.

by Ban on Sep 21, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

So we're following the "bit uncomfortable maybe" standard ...

for deleteable comments. I think that makes me a bit uncomfortable maybe.

by Billy Charlesbois on Sep 21, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not what I said/meant/or did

I deleted my own comment after the reaction to it felt extremely personal.

this combination of ballet and murder ♥

by JuliaM on Sep 21, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

new signature Billy?

I politely withdraw my snarky comment …based on lack of personal knowledge.

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Sep 21, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

lack of personal knowledge is now an impediment to commenting here?

that figures to cut down the stream a bit

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by krome on Sep 21, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what the issue is

she deleted her own comment. When has self censorship ever been an issue?

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by DesertHawk on Sep 21, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell, I'm oppressing myself at this exact moment...

The fourth dimension will collapse in upon itself, bitch.

by hairhelmet on Sep 21, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

occassionally

but I never delete any comments other than my own unless asked, or if it’s one of those spam posts.

If anyone responds to a deleted comment after it was deleted, their post falls to the bottom of the page & may disappear once the page is refreshed. Also, any replies that were there prior to the comment being deleted will disappear. So that’s what happened to your comment.

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.

by ahnfire on Sep 20, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never delete other people's comments

Again. Not a mod. Don’t possess any actual knowledge. Just the links lady.

this combination of ballet and murder ♥

by JuliaM on Sep 20, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

that’s right. back into your windowless room until Hack lets you out again. ;)

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.

by ahnfire on Sep 20, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

So... you're the one who made the comment?

I’m so confused…
The Drama
The Intrigue
It’s….
The Case of the Missing Comments

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha Julia made a comment and later deleted it.

that’s all.

also, you’re supposed to make some sort of pithy pun, put on sunglasses and yell “YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH” when discussing mysteries.

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.

by ahnfire on Sep 20, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

We can delete our own comments?

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

only if you have the power

That's right folks the Hawks hope and kool-aid is back.

by stacie7 on Sep 20, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

she has privileges us commoners don't

I am a meat popsicle
SCH's resident 8 year old

by LanceFister3 on Sep 20, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

silly commoners

That's right folks the Hawks hope and kool-aid is back.

by stacie7 on Sep 20, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come and see the violence inherent in the system.

Help! Help! I’m being repressed!

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

bloody peasant!

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.

by ahnfire on Sep 20, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, what a giveaway!

Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That’s what I’m on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, Didn’t you?

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by DesertHawk on Sep 20, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have always been at war with Oceania

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Looks like Hjammer is in excellent shape
ElinaCasell Elina Casell
Nik got at 1st place on all the fitness tests #goodjobmaman

That's right folks the Hawks hope and kool-aid is back.

by stacie7 on Sep 20, 2011 11:09 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

well, now that Hendry is gone...

Tazer must’ve been pissed he’s not first.

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.

by ahnfire on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would kill to see the look on his face.

In other news I now have hope Hammer gained back that step and a half he lost last year.

Doin the FRANKENSTEIN

by SKeen on Sep 20, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is some of the best news I've heard all summer

Hammer coming back fit and with a little bit of chip on the shoulder wold bode very well for the Hawks

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Sep 21, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I liked Saad's game in the offensive zone

but he seemed like he was floating in his own zone. Perhaps it’s just an 18 year thing that he will grow out of and I shouldn’t look into it too much…

by pb5689 on Sep 20, 2011 11:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Funny

That’s my pick, too.

The fourth dimension will collapse in upon itself, bitch.

by hairhelmet on Sep 20, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

The most surprising thing to me.

Is that neither of them even gives Vancouver passing mention. I lol’d :D

by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Sep 20, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

At first, I read that as Dan Roan

Was going to say, who cares?

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

by HjammerTime on Sep 21, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

NHLN is doing a show about Bobby Hull apparently.

right now he’s explaining how he got all his numbers.

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.

by ahnfire on Sep 20, 2011 11:40 PM CDT reply actions  

No sweat

Carcillo’s got this.

by Scott13 on Sep 20, 2011 11:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm wondering what will be left of Marian Hossa (if) by the time one of Kruger, Danault, McNeil becomes a top 6 centerman worthy of the title

Watching the game tonight, and the minutes assigned to Kruger, Danault (if he even is a center), and McNeil, it only reinforced my gathering conviction that the gaping hole on our 2nd line will remain an 800 pound gorrilla that we simply ignore because it makes little (financial) sense to make a huge commitment to a free agent or trade acquistion when you are sitting on a pipeline of cheap players and you can hope that “one of them pans out.”

Enough of the doom and gloom though, Danault made it through the first game without dashing my excitement for the player he might be by 2013-2014.

Am I paranoid? I don't know. I went to a therapist once, but I left before he gave me the diagnosis, cause he had it out for me.

by Detroit Must Die on Sep 21, 2011 12:28 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I think for Hossa this has to be his defining year as a Hawk

Now that injuries are not an issue (knock on wood) and he finally got some rest the excuses should be gone. I personnaly am expecting him to have an outstanding year but his point production is entirely dependent who his center is. Hopefully they give him some run with Toews but who knows with Quennville… I am just hoping Sharp pulls his head out of his ass and plays responsibly enough on the defensive end for Q to justify putting him and Kaner together, thus leaving Hossa to play with 19 for an extended period.

 I definately agree with your point and it kinda worries me as well. A second line center other than Sharp would make this team very tough to beat. Danault looks like what they were pumping Kruger up to be last year when they brought him over… Really god damn good with excellent vision and playmaking potential. Still 2 years away though… Sigh…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 21, 2011 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think for Hossa this has to be his defining year as a Hawk

Agreed, especially about how tough this team would be we had another second line center to allow Sharp to play left wing. That may be the point to saving some cap space and having all the one year contracts. If someone steps up, great. If not, we evaluate at mid term if we need a top six forward or a D man the most and try to trade for one.

We won a Cup with Sharp at center, so all is not lost. Unless someone at the bottom of the roster has a career year, we need all the core guys to stay healthy and play consistently well, not just Hoss.

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by Sparky The Barbarian on Sep 21, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just really really really grateful

that the stream on the Oilers website wasn’t blocked for locations outside of Edmonton. Hockey!!!! WHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 21, 2011 7:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Unfortunately this might take a while
Kyle Beach is still trying to get more than 2 braincells to fire simultaneously as this is being written.

by Boris Mironov on Sep 21, 2011 7:57 AM CDT reply actions  

two important old coaching sayings come to mind with Beach

First – every coach would rather try to keep a tiger on a leash than paint stripes on a pussycat.
This is why Beach is still here.

Second – one can’t coach the stupid or crazy out of a kid.
This may well be why Beach isn’t here for long.

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Sep 21, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

those sayings are great

And perfectly describe the conundrum that is Kyle Beach.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 21, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes he did

Beach didn’t do anything particularly stupid in the last two periods (didn’t see the first). He didn’t stand out, but neither did Smith nor Stalberg, his main competition.

by chijim on Sep 21, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

there are severe limits to that

experience and hard work can somewhat mitigate stupid, it can’t fully overcome it

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Sep 21, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Example

Todd Betuzzi… kinda figured out the stupid then forgot and went to jail for stupid…

Kyle Beach would have to offer up human sacrifices to the hockey gods to hold Bertuzzi’s jock though… that is sad…

by Boris Mironov on Sep 21, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Olesz was a high first round pick

he probably won’t become a “star” at this point – but he may be a guy that just needs some real talent to run with to be a good producer. If he is a good fit with Toews, they might have a great year together.

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Sep 21, 2011 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

I really liked what I saw out of Olesz last night

he certainly passed my eye test, for whatever that’s worth…

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 21, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

He really impressed me a lot last night. While it’s only one pre-season game it’s a good start. I’d like to see how he does not playing with Toews for a few shifts or the next preseason game

October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

—Brendan Shanahan.

by Jrs23 on Sep 21, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

That Panther’s fan on the GDT last night seemed to think that Olesz only plays this well when he is A.) Healthy and B.) Playing on a top line with premium linemates. Well there’s not much we can do with item A, but as far as item B goes I don’t think that’s a problem, as most of us are assuming he is slated to be a top 6 forward.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 21, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

being that he was a panther's fan

does ‘premium’ mean ‘not atrocious’?

by oregon_hawk on Sep 21, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

you have a point there

So theoretically he should be even better when playing with Toews/Hossa/Kane/Sharp, right? We can only hope.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 21, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Given that our problem is finding someone to competently play wing with a couple premier talents

he may be a perfect fit for us

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Sep 21, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes

A Troy Brouwer without the disadvantage of having drawn the ’Stache’s ire for a couple seasons.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Sep 21, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking

he has a lot more natural skill than Brouwer.

by stanfordron on Sep 21, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

difference between

a top rounder and a later rounder. Comes out in the wash.

Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.

by hawkeytalk on Sep 21, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

it may come out in the wash

but it leaves a stain

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Sep 21, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same old trouble

I know it was mostly third and fourth line guys and future Ice Hogs out there, but this scenario looked familiar.

Fall behind early.
Struggle to come back and tie, due more to individual effort than team effort.
Blow it in the third.
0 for 5 on the Power Play

I plan to live forever, or die trying.

by Sparky The Barbarian on Sep 21, 2011 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Noticed that as well

Hopefully it’s not a sign of things to come, but when they let in that GWG, I said to myself, “now those are the Hawks I remember.” It’s preseason though. Can’t put much stock in it, especially the PP since the only forward we’ll definitely see on the PP from last night is Toews.

by Ban on Sep 21, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

And they had at most

six-seven guys that are going to be on the team on opening night, and not the opening night goalie. At most three guys on the top two lines. Not a representative sample.

Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.

by hawkeytalk on Sep 21, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Common link: Mike Kitchen

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 21, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

More like at most 2 guys who will play in the top 9

1) Toews
2) Either Olesz, Stalberg, or possibly Kruger w/ some looks @ 2C

The other 7 of the top 9 – Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Brunette, Bolland, Bickel, Frolik – weren’t suited up. Also, the ‘Hawks didn’t bother playing 3 of their top 4 defensemen with Kieth, Seabs, and Hjammer all sitting this one out as well. So yeah, I don’t really see things like the ’Hawks inability to convert on the PP last night as indicative of how things will go in the regular season.

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by FrankStallone on Sep 21, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, it was against an Oilers split squad

but that really doesn’t make a difference. Regardless of who they’re against it just seems silly to try to gauge ’Hawks are going to do in the regular season, ESPECIALLY on situations like the PP, when 10 out of the 13 players that will comprise their top 3 forward lines and top 2 D-pairings (and not to mention the starting goalie) are all scratched.

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 21, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it equally silly then

to form an opinion of the backups, given the talent in front of them?

by oregon_hawk on Sep 21, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking

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by FrankStallone on Sep 21, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, I agree that its silly to form an opinion of the PP

given that the PP is not at all what it will be in the regular season, but by the same reasoning, the defense is totally different, as are the forwards, so is it fair to form an opinion of the backup goaltenders in that light?

by oregon_hawk on Sep 21, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say that it's fair to form an opinion

but the fact that the defense and forwards are totally different is something that needs to be weighed into said opinion-forming process. In other words statistics (save %, GAA, etc.) aren’t nearly as telling as they are for regular season play, but you should still be able to form educated opinions and make judgements based on the eye test

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by FrankStallone on Sep 21, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Estoy de acuerdo
…which means nothing

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 21, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw that, I was mostly just expanding on what I'd written before

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 21, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Although

theoretically at least, the bbOilers should be good, seeing as they’ve drafted high for so many years.

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by DesertHawk on Sep 21, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 of those 4 really don't hold water
  • Hawks seldom were behind early last year. In fact, they had a better Point Differential in the first 2 periods in 2011 than they did in 2010.
  • This piggyback’s on #1 and is therefore also not true. Plus, how do you define individual vs team effort? Are there such things as team goals? This seems to be based more on your perception than reality. (no offense meant, we all do it)
  • This unfortunately is true, but the loss in the 3rd last night wasn’t due to double-shifting the top lines as may have been the issue on the majority of occasions last season. Sometimes shit just happens. You win some in the 3rd, you lose some in the 3rd.
  • Top 5 PP in the league last year. “Clown shoes. Kane is lazy. Dinosaurs (Scott is big?).”

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

As usual in the preseason, reading the reviews, no one agrees on anything...except the Captain is a robot

Stalberg graded from horrible to good…
Olesz generally liked but some say he was not noticeable…
Nick Leddy from excellent to terrible…
David Toews, sick of him to invisible…
Lepisto, terrible, didn’t give a shit to excellent puck mover…

And etc…
LOLZ

"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"

by Saskjet on Sep 21, 2011 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

This sounds like a job for FlyersFan...

The fourth dimension will collapse in upon itself, bitch.

by hairhelmet on Sep 21, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I noticed that too.

Pretty funny. Everyone is right and everyone is wrong. Please God, give me the regular season!

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Sep 21, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i did enjoy

the hawks shift that kept the puck in the oiler’s zone for a full 2:50. i only remember toews, olesz, and leddy specifically being on the ice, but it was nice to see some hard work and dominant play for awhile.

by Gozer the Traveler on Sep 21, 2011 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Stalberg was out there as well

on a line with Toews and Olesz. I can’t remember who the other defenseman was, but that was a fun shift to watch.

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Sep 21, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Leddy was out there

it might have beern Lepisto or Lavin with him, or they could have even had time for a d-line change when the puck was down low

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by FrankStallone on Sep 21, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh Snap!!

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by DesertHawk on Sep 21, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

in Re: Ben Smith

The guy is really short, doesn’t have much experience and is being pushed by a fanbase who has only seen a very brief visage of him. I don’t really ever see him moving beyond the third line at best. It would probably be best that he spend some time in Rockford first.

by 815Sox on Sep 22, 2011 12:27 PM CDT reply actions  

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