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A Jumble On Both Sides: Jackets at Hawks Preview/Pregame Thread/Work Do

Columbus Blue Jackets at Chicago Blackhawks, Jan 10, 2012 7:30 PM CST


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There's a fair amount of change on both sides tonight.

Let's start with our side. Due to Patrick Sharp's wrist putting him out of diaper-changing duty (and that could be a joke about Kaner. but I'll let you decide), the Hawks have a fair amount of line shuffling. Ben Smith was called up this morning, and at the morning skate was on the second line with Marian Hossa and Michael Folik. Either Fro or Optimus Grind could thrash about in the middle as Hossa bemusedly looks on. Honestly, I thought Fro had a pretty good game on Sunday even if he only managed an assist. He was backchecking like his career depended on it, which it probably does, and was everywhere in the offensive zone -- though that's not always a good thing. Getting shifts with Hossa could see Smith look somewhat...well, apparent, which he didn't in his last stint here. If he does, expect confetti to come spilling out of the pressbox.

The top line remains the Daydream Nation-Rattlehead combo, but I expect things to shuffle all night. While it can be frustrating at times, a game against Columbus is an excellent platform to try out all your toys in every formation. I think we'd all like to get a look at Jimmy Hayes with 19 and 88, but he'll start on the fourth line with Mayer and Brunette. Andrew Shaw takes Frolik's spot on the checking line. The defense should remain the same, though you know those big bad Jackets and their overbearing style might call for John Scott to police. Yeah, I wrote that with a straight face. Just to see if I could. Oh wait, there's the retching. Damn it. Thought I was really going to make it this time.

On the other side, the Jackets finally put down their lame horse of a coach in Scott Arniel yesterday, which could be filed in the "two months late" folder. I believe this is the third time this season that the Hawks will play a team in its first game under a new coach, having welcomed Ken Hitchcock back to the league in St. Louis and getting worked and beating the Ducks in their first game under Fuckin' Bruce Fuckin' Boudreau. Feel free to correct me in the comments if I'm wrong

Usually, when playing a team that has just changed coaches you worry about every opponent coming out with a wild hair on their ass to try and secure jobs under the new guy. Not convinced that will be the case tonight. The Jackets season ran aground before the pumpkins were even out on the porch. They've only promoted an assistant who was already there in Todd Richards, and he may be a boob anyway. This is also the last game of a four game trip for the Jackets, and they may just be looking forward to getting home and getting to the real work with Richards.

Oh, and they suck to high heaven, so any effort level might not make a difference.

Add to that they're beat up. The Duke Twins of Jeff Carter and James Wisniewski are both out tonight, because they're doing that thing they both do where they get hurt a lot. Mark Letestu won't be around either, and neither will Kristian Huselius. Rick Nash is also hobbling with a case of "I could give a flying about this group so I'm just going to sit here and count my money until Brian Burke calls". It's really affected his game.

No need to over-analyze this one. As long as the Hawks don't take it for granted, it'll be quite the task to not come away with two points. They've flattened this team three times this season. But who here can guarantee the Hawks will bring their full attention? After an emotional and draining cock-up against Detroit, the Hawks seemed primed for yet another letdown. But with Sharp out, some players need to come in fuck you mode. Looking at you, Mr. Humpty Hump. Though 88 hasn't been as bad as the Italian beef soaked would have you believe, the biggest way to survive the Sharp absence is to get a dominating and sneering Patrick Kane back. While Hossa has still continued to accumulate points, a couple more I'm Marian Hossa and you're not moments would be welcome.

Need a win this month. You couldn't get a more hanging curveball than this one to get it.

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Did the 'Hawks play the Ducks in Boudreau's first game behind their bench?

I’m not sure about that – I think that Carlyle was fired just a few days after the Friday-after-Thanksgiving match-up in which the ‘Hawks entered the 3rd period trailing 4-2 but managed to squeak out a 6-5 win and it was about 2 1/2 weeks until the ’Hawks and Ducks played again. So yeah, I don’t think that the ‘Hawks were Boudreau’s first opponent from behind the Ducks bench

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Jan 10, 2012 1:12 PM CST reply actions  

LET'S GO HAWKS

Please win. I just might kill a puppy if i have to read another night’s worth of Nostradamous-like prognostication.

by oregon_hawk on Jan 10, 2012 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

I'd like to see Hayes try a few shifts with DDN

But if he starts with Mayers and Bruno I’d like to see him end there. Line Juggling would mean we’re not handling the jackets or someone’s injured. I can wait to see that til another time!

by SludgeFeast on Jan 10, 2012 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

Hawks have only won

2 more games than the Jackets in the last 10. 2 fucking games. Oh and for shits and giggles, the Hawks have never beaten the Jackets 5 consecutive times.

Bring it tonight and blow them the fuck out!

GO HAWKS!

No worries, this was the plan all along!
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by Tuke on Jan 10, 2012 1:30 PM CST reply actions  

@PK9 Debuts against Hawks this season: Hitchcock and Gulutzan. MTL Cunneyworth faced CHI in Game 3 at the helm, LAK’s Sutter was Game 4 and ANA’s Boudreau got the Blackhawks in Game 7 with the Ducks.

by melvins_rule on Jan 10, 2012 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

OT

watching the Cold War on Ice: Summit Series…good stuff. Also, a young Bobby Clarke looks strikingly similar to Kaner.

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Jan 10, 2012 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

thought the same thing

Clarke was one nasty player, though

by photoboy on Jan 10, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Was it Clarke or P. Esposito

Who said they’d have killed those ruskies to have won? I think it was Esposito, but for some reason am thinking it was Clarke when they were asking him about his insane slash on Kharlamov.

Awesome documentary.

by RVW5000 on Jan 10, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

question I want answered...

Is how many CIA agents (or at least assets) managed to sneak into that group of 3,000 Canadian fans that went to Moscow? /history geek

Seriously cool documentary though. Hope the network does more like it.

Jonathan Toews- "Oh Captain, My Captain"

by Hawks&Flyers on Jan 10, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

/finishes eating Italian beef sandwich

HEY! WAIT A MINUTE!

But really, perfect time for Kane to have a good game back with 19. Don’t count on the Marian Hossa moments since he’s paired with dull knife and a everyone’s favorite dustbin.

by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 10, 2012 1:36 PM CST reply actions  

Toews is doing a better job of that than Q

Centres always get the nod there. If we’re talking awards, I’m going to need to sit down when Matt Cooke wins the Lady Byng this year. 3 minors for 6 PIM.

by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 10, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Minus the 100 point season

He’ll have converted himself like Stosh did.

You are next.

by M7 on Jan 10, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't mind Hayes on that line

right now the kid brings energy and much – needed checking no matter which line he skates on. Looks OK with the puck as well – just keep it going, man.

by Waylon on Jan 10, 2012 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

Looking forward to watching this beat down in person

Rogers got a boner when he saw the line rushes at practice because Smith was in the top 6. Not sure how long that will last but I would really like to see Hayes get a shot up there. This set up just dicks Hossa over badly.

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 10, 2012 2:09 PM CST reply actions  

speaking as somebody 4,000 miles+ from the UC..

GO!!

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 10, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Tried to sell mine

Wasn’t getting an sniffs for over face value so just decided to take the g/f instead

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 10, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

See some good tickets in row 1 Sec. 309

For about $69.00 I just don’t know if I want to be bothered with a team that may not give a fuck when I can cook a nice steak dinner at home and yell at my TV instead.

by BodomSlayer on Jan 10, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Unparalleled.fan.dedication

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Jan 10, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic

I thought the comment about yelling at my TV made that clear, sorry.

by BodomSlayer on Jan 10, 2012 4:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Sarcasm all around! On the House!

But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"

by hairhelmet on Jan 10, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

The coin of the realm

Hey! I take penumbrage at that!

by ratbite on Jan 10, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm expecting a rotation

smith-hayes-shaw etc

throw it against the wall, see what sticks. Gonna be tough, because there isn’t much to stick to on the 2nd line, but hossa.

by oregon_hawk on Jan 10, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Jamal

immune to the Q line shuffle?

by YouFeelShame II on Jan 10, 2012 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

The centers get shuffled far less than the wings

Centers have been 19/?/36/22 almost all season, with krugs/kane etc at 2C when available.

by oregon_hawk on Jan 10, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

Jammer is the perfect 4th line center, no sense in moving him around

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 10, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually prefer

Hjammer to play Defense

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 10, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

And after I clicked post

I wondered if you were making a joke. My bad if you were!

by Katherine215 on Jan 10, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually prefer Hjammer to flinch at contact and blindly fire the puck around the boards

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 10, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

And for all you DLR fans out there ...

WE’RE GETTING THE BAND BACK TOGETHER!

"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.

by Hawkynite! on Jan 10, 2012 2:45 PM CST reply actions  

I hate to say this

but Van Halen sucked….

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 10, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

John Jameson molested collies

YOUR BLASPHEMY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED AROUND HERE.

by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 10, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

That reunion will last maybe all of 5 minutes

Before they remember how much they all hate each other. Oh, and aside from a couple of classics, Van Halen was just kinda meh

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Jan 10, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm putting Bud Light in ALL of your mugs tonight

And mmD will be getting the dreaded Bud Light Wheat. I just cannot believe what I’m reading here! DLR means too much to this community for you all to turn your backs on VH.

by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 10, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

first two albums very good

then slowly started sucking – and when Hagar joined they went right off the cliff.

by Waylon on Jan 10, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget the Gary Ciccone, Cherone

whateverthefuckhisnamewas Experience.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 10, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Talk about a misnomer

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 10, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't enjoy van hagar

All that much…loved the dlr albums though,i thought they were sll bery good,eddie is a great guitarist,and let’s not forget his guitar work in michael jacksons Beat It!

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Jan 10, 2012 3:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You're not alone

but I know better then to say it here.

by YouFeelShame II on Jan 10, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

'Tis true

But ’Everybody Wants Some" is still infectious

But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"

by hairhelmet on Jan 10, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

And in other relevant comments

I fucking hate Detroit. I just finished watching the game from the other night and while I’m pleased the Hawks played well overall, I’m pissed at the outcome. It’s like that Sharks game won in overtime even though the Hawks really had no business doing so based on the forty minutes of crap.

I would like to wake up tomorrow morning and see a vicious Hawks beat down, but a win is a win.

by mad-hatter on Jan 10, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

REC'D!

For so much mustachioed glory

"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.

by Hawkynite! on Jan 10, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Moustache Afficianado!

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Jan 10, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice preview as

Always…i kno it is somewhat blasphemy to read it but i was just at hockeybuzz and read JJ’s hawks article,where he claims a team offered the hawks a young gritty forward for dave bolland and the hawks said no way…donno whether he is just blowing smoke up our asses or not but it sounds interesting that the hawks wouldn’t give up bolland…i remember someone over at hockey buzz once asking who was marlboro 72,laughed my ass off!

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Jan 10, 2012 3:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Say what you want about Bolly in regular season.

it is 100% true he has a history of just not being there in the regular season – long scoring droughts, period of rough play, injuries, etc…

the guy is a killer come playoff time. If he starts to not show up in the post season, people around the hawks will really turn sour on him, but he’s produced for the last two post seasons in a big way.

by oregon_hawk on Jan 10, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Totally agree

With you,he has been very good in the post season,and as long as he produces in april they won’t move him…still eonder then eho they trade for and who will they send packing?

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Jan 10, 2012 3:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Most fans don't appreciate the defensive type players.

But JJ and the meathead side of that forum don’t even know what defensive players are. JJ still pines that the best defensive player the Hawks had was Buf. I kid you not, Buf was his definition of a defensive player. Drove me nuts when I bothered to read that site.

And is anyone really surprised that the Hawks aren’t going to trade one of there only two natural centers for some unknown “gritty” forward? Might be a shock over there but really?

And as for the “Bolland only shows up for the playoffs, did people saying that watch him last season?” If you weren’t happy with Bolland and Bickell last season then there really isn’t any hope you will ever appreciate defensive forwards.

by DaleHalas on Jan 10, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I suppose "just not being there" could easily be interpreted to mean that

but really what I meant to say is the second half of that sentence in my post – in the regular season, he has long scoring droughts and is fairly injury prone.

Last season, for example, he was absent from the scoresheet for a large part of the early going, if my memory serves correctly. While I can appreciate defensive forwards, and indeed, bolland is high on my list of favorite forwards, existing up above the 3m mark in salary means scoring is expected, in my book. “He’s a world class defensive forward” doesn’t excuse him from long droughts.

And again, as long as he shows up in the post-season… i don’t care all that much, and i think no one should care, what he does in the regular season.

by oregon_hawk on Jan 10, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you

I don’t care what Dave Bolland does in the regular season as long as 1. We make the playoffs and 2. We get playoff rat back. Besides, I don’t think we would want him to be 100% rat all the time or people might catch on to his rat ways.

by Speed3 on Jan 10, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I completely agree

unfortunately the money wasn’t available and I’ll take the guys we kept.

by Speed3 on Jan 10, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

he certainly intimidates the crap out of the Nucks

and for good reason – and ask Jumbo Joe what he thinks, he’d probably spit in your eye.

by Waylon on Jan 10, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

The best is the Richards trip

Although frustrating Jumbo Joe so bad he tried to hack his arm off was pretty good

by Speed3 on Jan 10, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

That was awesome

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 10, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

the Thornton thing

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 10, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Clitsome scratched for the Jackets tonight

And I have this whole bag of terrible puns I borrow from Pat Foley I was going to use…

by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 10, 2012 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

That's a couple hours worth of material for folks around here

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 10, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Your name is Clitz?

Always reminds of “The Girl Next Door”

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 10, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry don't know that movie

wish I did, I’m sure that’s funny

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 10, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Underrated movie

Decent comedy, Elisha Cuthbert at her hottest, and female porn stars making out. It’s on cable channels pretty frequently.

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 10, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahhh...Elisha Cuthbert

it’s too bad her new show completely sucks balls and is unwatchable.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 10, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll keep an eye out

I’m kind of a movie snob, I hate watching certain things and the title of that one would normally qualify it as one I wouldn’t care for, judging a book by its cover

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 10, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

All I ask for is three words tonight

Everybody wants some!!

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 10, 2012 4:07 PM CST reply actions  

It's simple....Kane and Bolland need to step up big time

The second half of this season is, schedule wise, a heckuva lot tougher than the first. It is time for Kane and Bolland to start playing like “core” players and deliver. No more complicated than that. Toews and Hossa are doing what they do, and ditto the top 4 defensemen. All the complementary players need to step up, but by far the biggest imperative is on Kane and Bolland.

Off to the game now. Lets hope for 2 fucking points.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Jan 10, 2012 4:27 PM CST reply actions  

I overheard a good question at Total Hockey today,

If the Hawks could pick up one of the Staal brothers (however unlikely/illogical/impossible), which one would you want? and why?

Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?

by The Cup And Back Again on Jan 10, 2012 4:27 PM CST reply actions  

plus the whole contract thing would suck

It’s really between Jordan and Marc but I didn’t want to leave Eric out in case he had some fans around here.

Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?

by The Cup And Back Again on Jan 10, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

more importantly

Cap hit of $8.25 per until the 2015-2016 season. Yikes.

by Code Name Duchess on Jan 10, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

The Staal Brothers: An Exposé

Eric Staal = Peyton Manning
Jordan Staal = Eli Manning
Marc Staal = Cooper Manning (or whatever the current name of Archie Manning’s dog is)

Just like the football guys, at this point in their careers and with the money they are owed in the future, I’d take Jordan 8 days a week.

by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 10, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Are these the same

Or are they different?

DISCLAIMER: Do not attempt to read the comments if you are an objective person. Your computer monitor may not survive the encounter!

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 10, 2012 5:20 PM CST reply actions  

Different

I hate to say it, but I think Raymond was trying to duck a flying elbow from Marchand. Marchand, on the other hand, was intent on torpedoing Salo.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 10, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I tend to agree

Do not want to see clipping, but IMO Raymond looks to actually be trying to dodge a hit he was already low for, Marchand was just a Mother Fucker on his

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 10, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Salo was positioning himself to wall-paper Marchand.

It didn’t work out in his favour. Personally, I hate the chicken shit “ducking” of a hit because it can be dangerous. Slipping a hit is one thing, ducking a hit (particularly near the boards) has always been a no-no in my books. The chirping from the bench of the team that got “ducked” was always pretty strong as I remember.

Therefore, I would’ve probably looked at Raymonds hit as a suspension too (if it was even considered a suspension worthy offense last year). Either way, both are cheap IMO.

You are next.

by M7 on Jan 10, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, you're absolutely right.

In a re-read of what I wrote I didn’t mention that but, it’s dangerous for both parties. I’ve seen players take wicked knee’s to the melon ducking like that. No good all around, bad for both parties in the collision.

You are next.

by M7 on Jan 10, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Setoguchi out for the Wild tonight

reason yet unknown

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 10, 2012 6:04 PM CST reply actions  

Charro is there tonight?

Guchi – guchi – guuu

Hold My Stones

by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions  

who is that?

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 10, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope, still lost

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 10, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

never mind, I got it now

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 10, 2012 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

yep had to

Saw her picture and understood

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 10, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

attaway to show your age laaarmer

don’t worry tho, i got what you did there.

"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.

by Hawkynite! on Jan 10, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

They are saying a healthy scratch now

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 10, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I really really hope Ben Smith has a good game tonight

It’s not his fault lots of people are expecting all these crazy unrealistic things.

by girlphoenix on Jan 10, 2012 6:25 PM CST reply actions  

Oh jesus, this is the team with the guy named Clitsome? It’s a good thing I bought a bottle of wine. I know, I know this is a totally hockeytific complaint to have. Entirely logical. But every time they say his name, I just …gaaaah.

So long and thanks for all the fish.

by _lotus on Jan 10, 2012 7:04 PM CST reply actions  

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