Morning Links - (1/13)
Your Friday the 13th Blackhawks news and other league-wide notables.
- Recaps and reflection. [nhl.com] [Tribune] [CSN] [ESPN] [Sun-Times] [Hockeenight] [Third Man In] [MyFoxChicago]
- Dave Bolland graced us with his ineffable presence last night. [ESPN]
- Andrew Brunette's adjusting to a truncated role. [Tribune]
- Three Hawks are going to the All-Star Game. [CSN] [Tribune]
- Marian Hossa is looking forward to a triumphant return to Ottawa. [CSN]
- Dan Carcillo may need knee surgery. [CSN]
- I don't hate you like most, Jesse Rogers, but if you love him, you're going to have to let Byfuglien go. Jimmy Hayes won't heal you. [ESPN]
- The role of the designated fighter is becoming obsolete. [USAToday]
- Michael Cammalleri spoke candidly about Montreal. Management pulled him out of a game last night and traded him because apparently they live in an episode of La Usurpadora. [PD] [HabsEyes]
- E has a fantastic piece on getting into the corners through the lens of an unbearably polite women's hockey class. [TheoryofIce]
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Hi, Bob LeDonne is up in da Yoopee having a pasty
by Paul the Fossil on Jan 13, 2012 10:05 AM CST reply actions
Those things are disgusting.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 13, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
they really are
Tried them a number of times, beginning to think that one of the reasons why the UP became so depopulated wasn’t because the mines closed but because the food was usually god – awful.
I went to school at NMU in Marquette.
People from the UP think pasties are God’s greatest gift. Disgusting.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 13, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
I guess when the weather is 35 below anything tastes good
funniest thing I remember is one time I went outside and threw a pitcher of water in the air, and the entire thing froze into a long icycle as it was falling downward. Unreal.
It's funnier
if you read every single Jesse Rogers column out loud in a Salacious Kristen Bell Gossip Girl Voice.
And then end it with, “XOXO, Jesse~”
by gmh on Jan 13, 2012 10:11 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Cammalleri
The guy raked his team over the coals to the press. Here’s a player who is one of his team’s leaders, and he showed a shitty attitude, lack of maturity and respect for the organization he plays for.
Above all else, hockey is a team sport. You can’t say “we play like losers” and expect a finger-wagging to be sufficient.
Was trading him mid-game bizarre? Yup. Was it a middle-finger from the GM to him? Probably. Did he deserve it? Arguably.
i dont know if u were one of the Brian campbell guys but,
When he talked openly about the hawks struggles last year everyone seemed to praise him and say we need more like him in The locker room. I don’t think cammalleri was wrong in what he said. Montreal was playing horribly in a game where they should have played well. He wasn’t wrong in what he said.
What’s going to be interesting about this situation is how he plays in Calgary and how much more value the flames get for him and maybe iginla if they trade them at the deadline. I predict they get considerably more than the Canadiens got.
by Kissmyanthia on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
everyone playing in MTL becomes suspect
that’s just a nutso atmosphere, replete with ridiculous expectations both from the fan base and management. Be interesting to see if he’s still portrayed that way in his new locale.
I am not challenging what he said
I am challenging the way he said it. Saying “We prepare for our games like losers. We play like losers. So it’s no wonder why we lose” is diametrically different than “we’re not playing as well as we should be, and I am not having the best year either”. Instead Cammalleri has the nuts to say he’s been playing some of his best hockey….what?
Imagine playing on a hockey team, hustling your ass every game but things aren’t clicking and your team isn’t scoring, and then a teammate goes out and says you prepare like a loser and play like one too. Those words are poisonous, and they torpedo morale.
For the record
I live in Montreal, and am a Habs fan after the Hawks. I am one of the few who holds my position….at least among my friends here. Everybody else is treating this like Patrick Roy left town.
It's funny, because if Feaster is to be believed
he acquired Cammalleri for a playoff run, and neither he nor Iginla are going anywhere. How he still has a job is an absolute mystery to me
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by FrankStallone on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
He had his best season in CGY
Might rediscover something there… however it’s unlikely seeing that Jay Feaster is the Brian Sabean of NHL general managers. There’s not a player too old or too highly paid that he’s not interested in.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 13, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
Ryan Lambert is killing it today with this.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 13, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
He also said that he had to work harder in PRACTICE because he was only playing 15 minutes during the game.
They asked him if he wanted out of Montreal and he said “you guys can read between the lines”. So in my mind, that was a douchey move.
Cammalleri is one of the purest snipers in the league. He’s got a fucking quick release and accurate snap shot. But he never controls the puck which makes him ineffective when he’s not scoring (which was the case this year, and to a lesser extend last year). But I’m sure he would score 40 on the opposite wing of Kaner.
by LavalPhantom on Jan 13, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Hey somebody gathered some actual facts about the impact of fights!
From that USA Today article:
A Canadian company, PowerScout Hockey, analyzed 1,563 NHL fights between October 2009 and Dec. 21, 2011, to determine fighting’s impact.
“Ultimately our focus is on what happens in the game that contributes to winning,” PowerScout CEO Mark Appleby said. “Fighting was an interesting piece of research that we looked at and determined, ‘OK, it doesn’t really have an impact on winning.’”
Most hockey people think a fight changes momentum of a game, and Appleby said research showed that it does after 75% of all fights. But the boost is short-lived.
“(And) you can’t predict which way it’s going to happen,” Appleby said. “And it doesn’t increase goal scoring significantly.”
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Here is more detail on that research:
http://powerscouthockey.com/node/512
by Paul the Fossil on Jan 13, 2012 10:12 AM CST reply actions
But the boost is short-lived.
So, we need more fights?
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by HjammerTime on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Well perhaps, but it takes Broad Street Bullies-level effort to get real results
“If a team’s fights occur without any regard to team or opponent momentum, then the team will score at an average gain of about a 0.1 of a goal. If so, this would require about 60 fights to score a win.
But good coaches don’t do things randomly – preferring to pick the opportune time to change team momentum. In such cases scoring will double to about 0.2 of a goal and the team will require only about 30 fights to get a win."
by Paul the Fossil on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Hilarious.
That’s a pretty cool study.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
Krüger activated
Ben Smith sent to Rockford
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
And there it is
@NHLBlackhawks The #Blackhawks have activated Marcus Kruger from Injured Reserve and assigned Ben Smith to Rockford
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I'm also tempering my optimism
What with how we’ve recently handled the ole brown brain. Hope he’s 100% and not just trying to fool our doctors. We need him this weekend, but not that bad.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 13, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
yeah no lie
I know I’m beating a dead horse here but I really am worried about him returning too soon to the ice. If they solely relied on the team doctor for this diagnosis of a complete return to health, count me skeptical.
Can we get Bick's enrolled for a brush up in that class...
they need to adda crashing the net segment.
Me too
I was so unathletic in middle/high school/now that I could barely hold myself up on ice skates bc of weak ankles and yup fear of falling/getting hurt
Yeah, I'm not athletic at all either
so sports were not for me (as a player). I’m very opposed to the idea of getting hurt but I kind of think I would have no problem with the aggression/fighting for pucks part.
That being taught to run part was interesting to me, too. I never gave too much thought to the psychology that teaching girls to run has behind it. I mean, it’s logical that if someone is bigger and stronger than me and is trying to attack me, I would probably run like hell because I hate pain and probably wouldn’t win a fight. But I do wish girls were taught to fight back a bit more. If only so I wouldn’t have gotten into trouble for punching my sister way back when. :)
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
I took a self defense class last year
One of the first things they teach you is to run and yell if you can, don’t try to fight back or engage. We learned some moves to do if you’re grabbed by someone. I left a little more freaked out than before the class started, and then when I tried to show off my new moves, my brother leveled me. Dammit.
heh
well the point is to avoid or remove yourself from the situation if possible. my mom grew up dirt poor one of 12 siblings and she learned how to fight from a young age. in a real situation, if you cannot avoid it, biting, hair pulling, gouging, they are all your friend. not exactly something you can practice with your brother.
In a real fight
fighting fair is going to get you hurt or killed
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by FrankStallone on Jan 13, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
For girls it is different.
For guys, one of the biggest part of fighting is willing to really injure the other guy. Human joints are pretty easy to destroy with the correct application of force.
Men or women, the easiest way to never lose a fight is to not fight. Running can be very effective.
by oregon_hawk on Jan 13, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
I don't disagree about your advice on the best way not to lose a fight
the point I was trying to make is that if you are in a real fight, and I mean a REAL fight, fighting fair will probably get you fucked up. Raditzzzz is completely right – hair pulling, gauging, biting, etc. are all your friend in a real fight, if you stand there and try to go toe-to-toe and move like a butterfly sting like a bee like Muhammad fucking Ali you’re probably going to end up in a lot of pain unless you have a MASSIVE size / strength advantage on your opponent.
There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.
by FrankStallone on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
I have taken both self-defense and martial arts
and the targets are very different. In self defense, eyes, neck, groin, knee and instep are the primary targets using weapons like elbows, bear claws and bottom of feet. When sparring, none of those are targets, nor are elbows or bear claws allowed.
It's on, bitches.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
bear claws
You use bakery items in self-defense?
by Rooney's Tramp Stamp on Jan 13, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
That's how Burrows learned also.
No worries, this was the plan all along!
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Ummmm
“biting, hair pulling, gouging, they are all your friend.”
Better to die than be Alex Burrows.
Think yell run fight tell
5 fingers of SD. So, following finger #1, if your brother is bigger than you are, then don’t challenge him.
It's on, bitches.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
I've been reading your posts
for a couple years now, and I have to say (with respect and admiration), I don’t think you’d have ANY “problem with the aggression/fighting for pucks part.”!
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
haha, maybe a little underestimation on my part.
My friend got me a magnet one year that read, “There’s nothing passive about her aggression.” Yeah, it was the perfect gift. :)
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
My grandmothers motto in regards to fights
“A good run is better than a bad stand any day”.
No worries, this was the plan all along!
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katherine
u in chicago? step 1 buy some hockey skates (if you are lucky like my wife, you can fit in kids skates and get them extra cheap) and some cheap elbow/knee pads. step 2 hit up open skate rinks all across the city. step 3 buy rest of equipment while learning how to stand on skates. step 4 join johnny’s hockey 101 (for complete skating beginners). step 5 enjoy playing hockey.
if i can do it having never ice skated until 3 years ago, anybody can.
I am
Thanks, this is good advice. Something to think about, as I’m looking for ways to stay in shape that do not require going to a gym. Unfortunately, the kids skates are a no-go – I’m on the taller side and my feet are not small.
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
We know what that means, hehe
wait…what does that mean?
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
Play it Again Sports
usually has any size that you will need and wont cost near as much as a new pair.
When my nephew was young and growing like a weed that’s where we got all of his skates until he was older and could use a pair for longer than 6 months without needing a new size.
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what he said
and try the play it again store near Frankfort- they usually have a big selection of used skates, pads, and helmets.
Now, get out there!
I think I'm an honorary Slovakian. I'm starting to learn (the language). I know all the swear words now, anyway. Patrick Sharp
Keep in mind that properly fitting skates are typically 1.5 to 2 sizes smaller than your shoe size.
If you factor this in with the fact that hockey skates are all size on the men/boy scale as well, you can come pretty far down in sizing (e.g. possibly into a junior size).
For example my wife is a women’s 9.5, this equates to a men’s 7.5, in skates (coming down two sizes) she slotted into a 5.5.
At size 6 skates go from being boys or “junior” to senior and the price for an identical skate a half size larger practically doubles.
Something to consider.
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Also, if it's your first skate
Be wary of being “too much boot”. That would be a skate that is too stiff and stiffness tends to increase with price. The reasoning behind this is that the torsional energy placed on a boot by a strong skater is much larger than a beginner and requires much more rigidity so that the boot doesn’t break down quickly (and so that a player can dig in and corner hard with the inner blade edge holding the player nearly parallel with the ice without failing).
Since beginners are generally not digging in and striding low with power an extra stiff boot will actually make it considerably harder for you to skate in. Less rigid = cheaper skate = better for learning.
When sizing the most critical thing is that your heel locks into position without movement and your tippy toes should be feathering the toe cap. If there’s more room than that you’ve got too much length. A well fitted skate should almost induce a mild foot ache in the arch of your foot when standing still.
Once you are more comfortable skating you might find some inadequacies in your first pair of skates. Some people like a little more room in the toes, some less. I, for one, like my skates extremely small (in length) and go down from a size 11-11.5 in shoes to an 8 on my left foot and a 7 3/4 on my right.
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 13, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
women's league
also, if you’re not keen on playing with men and would rather just play against and learn alongside women there’s a women’s league (wchl) in the area with teams at several rinks.
Thanks!
I’ll have to give this some thought for sure. Learning to skate is definitely step one!
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
That is the league my wife plays in
on the Frozen Snappers (though she’s on the temporarily-disabled list right now due to the impending arrival of a junior Fossil). The league includes plenty of complete beginners. Also includes some women who played in high school or whatever but they seem to make that work pretty well.
by Paul the Fossil on Jan 13, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
that article reminded me when I played IM floor hockey in college...
I was totally that one girl body-checking wingers while all the other girls were all “I’ll just reach for the ball with the stick…”
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
sigh
when I was at school they tried to introduce this
sadly we had all gotten into watching European Ice Hockey highlights on eurosport and jind of ignored the “non contact” aspect.. one concussion and one broken collarbone later we went back to volleyball..
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by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
enojyed
that theoryofice article. i have my own ideas about women being able to hack it in skill sports at the highest levels alongside men (which is, imo, the next great barrier in sports), but this really helps to reinforce my belief that of all the issues inherent in that subject, the cultural factors seem to be the strongest.
no surprise
surprised he played as well as he did for as long as he did.
why do you say that?
though if the response is something about how he spends his free time, please don’t.
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Jan 13, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
ah ok, then yeah i agree with that
he’s been playing a lot of minutes, while also being pounded, guess it was bound to catch up with him.
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Jan 13, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
Kaner
was wiping his nose 3 or 4 times in the between periods interview he did.
Upper respiratory infection comes to mind. There’s a couple strains going around here than hang on for 10-12 days. Saps your energy and hinders your breathing.
The beats mentioned he was playing with strep at the beginning of the month.
If he played through an infection like that, it may be taking him a while to get his lungs back.
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh
by Steeg of their own on Jan 13, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
he is always wiping his nose during interviews
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 13, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
that's the Massive Coke Habit
remember?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
I thought it was all the venereal diseases
I keep getting my “Patrick Kane is lazy/drunk/druggy” all confused.
can't it be all three?
and TRADE HIM!!
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by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
The Hawks reported he had strept throat
and one of my friends said. “Kane’s looked pretty tired the last few games. The guys on the score (local sports radio, for our overseas fans) said he’s probably been playing hungover” which is even worse than the normal Kaner is a drunk because the team actually came out and said he’s sick!
drives me nuts. kid could solve world hunger and the story would still be about how he did it while obviously drunk
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Jan 13, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Pure hilarity
http://deadspin.com/5875807/it-looked-for-all-the-world-like-jaromir-jagr-was-batin-on-the-bench
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I was ALMOST going to post about that but then I remembered that this is a classy establishment for gentlemen and ladies of distinction.
stay still. shut up. pay attention. adopt as signature moves.
bitches couldn't possibly know about my modal epistemology
Twitter
Oh come on! Live a little! Unless you have co-workers who can see your computer screen.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
And the degenerates
Never forget the degenerates
Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?
by The Cup And Back Again on Jan 13, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
Hand immediately to the face
Bad form. Two points deducted. The French judge may have added a couple though.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 13, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
With Kruger back
any line predictions? It’s funny how the return of Kruger…one player…can make things all the more interesting.
Krugs played well as a fill in for bolland
when bolly hurt his foot.
Also, with sharp out, it’d be nice to add Bolland’s skill to the top 6.
So….
25/19/88
39/36/81
29/16/67
65/22/15
by oregon_hawk on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Interesting
Swapping 16 for 36 on the 2nd line. Defense, checking, but absolutely no scoring whatsoever. Well, can’t say it was any different when Bolly was there either. FML.
I'm vigorously searching threads to find when I suggested Bolly as 2C in the preseason
It was met with a lot of “ZOMG we can’t break up the checking line”
Kidding, of course. But I’m glad Bolland has been given this shot at top 6 time. We’ve got other guys that can totally handle that checking role. I really hope Q leaves him in that 2C spot with Big Hoss.
Anyone else feel kinda bad for Bruno? It’s like he doesn’t have a role on this team right now.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 13, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Not really
He could be playing goalie in Europe
Won't Bolland still face the opponent's top line?
I thought he was out there against Setoguchi, et al, last night but I could be wrong.
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
He was
But that third line will still be viewed as a “checking line” because I’m not sure you can view it as much else. Except maybe toothless, foreign and stonehands.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 13, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
I thought he was playing pretty well last season
as the 2C last season before the Kubina elbow. Or was I delusional?
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don't remember...
but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with Bolly being moved to 2C for the long-term. He’s a heck of a defender, but that doesn’t mean he needs to be on the checking line for the rest of his career. Kruger is more than capable of taking that responsibility and being successful with it.
i remember during the Detroit game, some poster mentioned that the Detroit announcers were nuts for mentioning that Bolland would someday be a #2 center. Why? Maximize the guy’s talents.
Bolland
has some fine offensive skills. However, on the third line, he was — by far — the best offensive player, thus the focus of the opponents’ defensive efforts, since it was pretty easy to ignore 29 completely (and let the goalie worry about the 60’ wrister from just inside the blue line) and Frolik has always been an odd combination of inconsistent and snakebit.
With 81 on his line, opponents are focusing there and not on 36, giving the Rat more time and space. With his skill-level, that greatly increases his opportunity for offensive contributions. Added to that, Hossa is an outstanding defensive player to boot, again relieving some pressure on Bolland.
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That's almost exactly what I suggested / guessed in the post game thread
with the caveat that, based on their play of late, 65 and 29 swap
(for the record – not by any means saying you copied what I wrote earlier or anything like that, just saying that we’re basically in agreement on how the lines might / should look)
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by FrankStallone on Jan 13, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Observations
1. I will give my left nut to see a line pairing of Marcus Kruger (healthy) and Jimmy Hayes. I can not overstate my enthusiasm over the NHL future of Kruger…this kid is going to be “core” caliber good.
2. Detroit and San Jose is a helluva one-two punch test.
3. Jamal Mayers looms HUGE in the Detroit game. Yep, that’s what I said.
4. Danny Carcillo is done skating for the Blackhawks. As in forever done.
5. Hope Nick Leddy was taking notes of Moses O’Donnell’s play last night. The kid could learn a thing or three from the 40 year old.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
I kind of disagree about Carcillo
I think he probably needs surgery, and who knows how long the recovery time will be. But the Hawks have been so hush-hush about his injury while serving his suspension, it makes me wonder whether they thought they might get in trouble if they came out and stated the extent of his injury while he was suspended.
Though it seems like this shouldn’t be a problem given people have said you can serve a suspension while injured, why delay announcing the diagnosis and having the surgery? Do knee injuries usually take almost 2 weeks to determine a need for surgery? I know swelling is a factor, but this long?
I think they think he’ll be back at some point this year.
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with you
I really don’t think that the ‘Hawks would have been so hush-hush about his injury status if they weren’t concerned that the league might force him to wait until he was off of IR to serve his 7-game ban, and I doubt that the ‘Hawks would have really cared all that much about losing him for an additional 7 games after he recovers if they didn’t think he’d be playing again this season. If I had to venture a guess, and this is with absolutely no medical background whatsoever but plenty of experience being injured, I would guess that Carcillo has a partially or full torn meniscus. If it was an ACL or MCL surgery would be a virtual lock and the recovery time would take him well beyond the end of the season, but with a meniscus tear (especially only a partial tear) it’s possible to forgo surgery and just rehab instead, and if surgery is the recovery time is only a matter of weeks (4-5) as opposed to multiple months to recover from ACL or MCL surgery
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by FrankStallone on Jan 13, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
the way his leg went
might be ACL and MCL.
I had that happen to me + some other shit in the knee, its not a walk in the park.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 13, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Just from watching the injury happen yeah, it could definitely be either or both ACL and MCL
but that doesn’t make a lot of sense in light of how hush-hush the ‘Hawks have been about the injury during the suspension. If that’s the case then his season is done, and if his season is done then the ‘Hawks aren’t particularly worried about the possibility of the league ruling that he has to serve his suspension after he comes off of IR
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by FrankStallone on Jan 13, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with you
The way his knee went all wonky (and yes that is a medical term) that didn’t look like a meniscus but more of an MCL/ACL. It is possible that he got all 3 though. “The terrible triad”. Very lengthy recovery if that were the case.
On the other hand it could be nothing more than a bad sprain / strain.
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Actually,
I think the Hawks have been hush hush about the Carcillo injury because then can be. With him on suspension there isn’t any reason to give updates. And the league knows Carcillo is injured.
I think NOT saying anything keeps the “Carcillo shouldn’t be able to serve his suspension now because he is injured” crowd at bay. But otherwise, I think they are being hush hush right now simply because they can be.
But usually when a player is going to miss significant time
they just announce what happened to him. We knew about Burish’s knee injury, Bolland’s back, and Campbell’s collar bone/ribs in 2010. We knew about Campbell’s knee injury last season. They are secretive about the day to day, more minor injuries but not usually the ones that require significant time missed.
I don’t know, I’m not 100% sold on my own theory. But do you really think they even care what that crowd says though? If what they’re doing is legit, and it seems to be, why would they care what some fans say? Or really, why care what a couple fans (or whoever really) think about this?
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
That is why I think they are being hush hush because they can be.
They don’t really have to say anything about Carcillo’s injury until they place him on IR. And they have another week before they are going to do that. So they can wait.
The more time that goes by on an injury like this the more time you can get a more accurate diagnoses. Like whether the player needs surgery or not. I just think they are taking advantage of the suspension to avoid have to deal with updates. Basically, I just don’t think it is any more of a conspiracy than that.
4. Danny Carcillo is done skating for the Blackhawks. As in forever done.
Come on, don’t stop there. When is he going to die again?
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Jan 13, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
You mean like dead dead
or Kim Johnsson dead? There’s difference, you know.
by radguy213 on Jan 13, 2012 12:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We're were told he wouldn't live to see 40
like James Dean and George Burns.
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
Ha! I love it.
Doom-doom-doom… dead at 40. That was too much to ignore.
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 13, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
Who would want either of your nuts?
Frankly, I’ve heard they were used and abnormally abused.
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
If the attendance is anything like the Joe
There will be roughly 30,000 people dressed as empty seats.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 13, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
No way.
Leafs fans will invade that place.
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
I know...
I just wanted to point a howitzer in the direction of Detroit for a moment and let one fly.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 13, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
id feel
a bit sad if i were a wings fan, you get to host the winter classic, and they want to host it in another city. i mean, i realized nobody wants to go to detroit, but i guess they REALLLLY don’t want to go to detroit.
I would think if you were a resident of Detroit
You are more than happy to find a reason to leave city limits.
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 13, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
^ZING!

howlin’ mad murphy approves of your zinger
by Raditzzzz on Jan 13, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sealab 2021....
How I miss thee… But glad you brought us Archer…
i realized detroits attendance has been spotty
whats the reason?
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 13, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
The mouthbreathers are unemployed
and blew all their rations money on Lions tickets. Do I need to tag this #meatball or does everyone get it?
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 13, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
They had to change their name from Hockeytown
to Bartertown. That’s what happens when your whole city is swimming in pigshit.
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
A curious choice.
Leafs/Detroit would kill the US TV ratings. Detroit’s not that big a TV market, and Canadian Nielson ratings don’t translate to advertiser dollars. I would have expected Boston or Washington to get the nod, not one of the Canadian teams.
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh
by Steeg of their own on Jan 13, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
There's a reasonable number of Canadian expats in the US
And, Red Wings/Maple Leafs has some brand name to it, possibly enough to attract NHL fans in general.
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
I somewhat agree
But I think most of those people would watch anyways. They need to draw in non NHL fans.
It's a great chance to sell a bit of league history
Original Six-ness and all. I’m personally not all that fussed about the O6 (sacrilege on this board I know, but hey, I’m a Californian), but I can’t deny it has a huge marketing appeal.
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
the Leafs
are the biggest Hockey “brand” in the world, bar none. The only Hockey shirts/caps/etc I ever see over here or the UK (unless they’re on a tourist) are Leafs. I don’t think they’ll struggle to sell this one. any other Canadian team (with the possible exception of the Habs) yes.
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
I have no doubt
that the NHL could sell this match-up to both hockey and non-hockey fans. HUGE outdoor crowd, historic stadium, original 6 match-up, Canada vs US, new dynasty vs old dynasty, months of hype.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
I expect them to play up the nationalism
to compensate for the tv market & the Canadian viewership.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Any connection with Kruger coming back
and today being Friday the 13th?
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
but of course
I’ve been waiting for a freddy photoshop, wanted to do one myself but there arent enough pics of kruger to fit with the freddy ones.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 13, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
but friday the 13th was Jason
by the way
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 13, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Freddy was just a dream haunter
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
aaaaaaand
I’m an idiot. Thought I had something there turned out to be a big ol’ turd. I should really know better than that considering my love for terrible horror movies.
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 13, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
well they did make a freddy vs jason
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 13, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah but they fought on Saturday the 14th so Freddy didn't get home ice...
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 13, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
oops, meant Jason didn’t get home ice. Type one think, think another – you know the drill…
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 13, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
thus why we are at this point in the first place
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 15, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
Did anyone see the ardent suitor express his love for Sarah Kustoc last night.
Puck Daddy has a post of it. Sarah said they’re skipping the dating and will be announcing the wedding date shortly.
i loved it
that guy took over the mic. no matter that a kid just won the shoot the puck contest, he’s giving shout outs and hitting on kustok. thats how its done.
How about the look on Weapon's face
for having to answer her questions. If you could only read his mind.
by radguy213 on Jan 13, 2012 12:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He was thinking: "Eat, pray, love..."
…Ewww, that sounds exceptionally weird coming out of Bolly’s mouth
No Swagger, No Dagger
& Kustoc had absolutely no idea
what PP he was referencing.
by radguy213 on Jan 13, 2012 1:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I got this one of his face after he scored the putback goal
Seriously, if anyone has visual evidence of Bolland smiling (other than McClure’s hipster Bolland from the recap… YOWZA), please put it in a time capsule. Future generations need to know that it did, in fact, happen.

by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 13, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
there was one point in the game
near the end
bolly was grinning like a villain right before he took a faceoff. i could try and find it
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 13, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Is this post a good enough time capsule?

There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous! Beautius J. Beautius!
Fuck Radim Vrbata.
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Jan 13, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's definitely a troll smile.
It was as he skated off to the box for doing something Trolland-like.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous! Beautius J. Beautius!
Fuck Radim Vrbata.
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Jan 13, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
When Hamhuis went for his head
and Bollie broke his stick on the bench door! That grin on the way to box is one of my favorite Bolland moments.
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Thaaaaat's right!
I couldn’t remember exactly what it was but I thought it was against the Nucks.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous! Beautius J. Beautius!
Fuck Radim Vrbata.
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Jan 13, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
I also liked how when he freaked out on the bench
the guys sitting there were just completely ho hum, likely bolland going nuts was nothing new
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Jan 13, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
he was skating off for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
for yapping at the refs
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
This is probably the biggest understatment
I’ve ever heard for “yapping at the refs”
I loved Andrew Shaw's goal celebration...
it seemed to start out with the chicken dance and end up with him repeatedly slamming his face inot the plexi-glass. Reportedly someone overheard him say, “Get ready for my bobble head night” bitches.
Boden...
Or whoever was with Steve said he may get fined for jumping into the glass… this can’t be from the NHL right, or was it a poorly delivered joke?
OT But...
Stick tap to whoever came up with the name for the UC band in yesterday’s Indian. Taint Nugent….
The laughter it provides will comfort me through tough times of my life…
Joe Conklin says this from the Sun - Times today
here’s his proof for the Hawk’s desperate need for another top – line D – Man for the playoff run:
“Marek Zidlicky, Dany Heatley and Devin Setoguchi flew through the Hawks’ defense like it was the morning skate, with Setoguchi putting the Wild ahead 1-0.”
That’s a grand total of one rush, and he neglects to mention Razor’s big, fat, juicy rebound. That’s some brilliant analysis right there, yesirree.
Sometimes,
I get the sense that it’s not really a flaw with our D-men at all, but rather defensive lapses by the forwards and too many juicy rebounds from the goalies. And then I think, damn, the goalies need a little help from their D-men to get some of those bodies out of their kitchen. And then I think, geez, it would be nice if the D-man could just once clear the fucking puck with a decent outlet pass.
So to summarize: sometimes our players fuck up. And this has always been true, not only about the Hawks, but about every team, every year. Sometimes, you get away with fuckups, some times you don’t. When you win the Cup, as often as not it’s because you had a long string of getting away with the fuck ups.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
I also think that rush was during a change if memory serves
which would make his main point all the more idiotic.
I agree about the rebounds
but the fact our D-men constantly let offensive players get behind them in the crease is what is turning too many of those rebounds into goals. There is definitely fault both ways.
I'd agree.
Here’s a link to Minny’s first goal.
It’s tough because, positionally speaking, when the Wilds entered the zone the coverage was good. Seabs was on the puck carrier, Keith had Seto, and Hossa stuck with the 3rd man into the zone (Koivu – and you have to think he’s dangerous enough to stick with). The problem was that Zidlicky beat Bolland back into our zone (4th man high never a good thing). At that point Hossa and Seabs had done pretty much all they could coverage wise. Personally I would’ve preferred to see Keith stick right on top of Seto but he instinctively bit at the 4th man coming in and found himself to high to check Seto and too deep to check Zidlicky. The prototypical no-mans-land that no D-men wants to get caught in. Could Seabs possibly have put more pressure on the carrier not allowing him to pass the puck? Probably, but given that Hossa was back and had Koivu covered, most d-men will just try to contain the puck carrier (keep him in front of you) rather than maybe having him beat you one-on-one and he’s probably assuming that the 4th man wouldn’t enter the zone un-checked which is a fair assumption in most cases.
The total elapsed time from zone entry to back of net was a mere 3 seconds and it took less than a second for Keith to lose Seto.
Even if Emery kicks the rebound wide there is some danger with Koivu lurking given that even Hossa, instinctively, started to drift away from coverage when Zidlicky got the puck. Even if everybody holds their man, Zidlicky walks even deeper into the slot and has a golden opportunity to beat Emery outright. Can’t lose races back to your own zone, but it happens from time to time. With guys with hands lurking around the crease bad things will happen.
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 13, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
so he basically watched about two minutes of them game
and then wrote his article. Definitely one of those kids who had their homework done on a Friday night.
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
Did he note the same thing when Tazer pantsed Lidstrom?
Keith 23:40min; Seabs 23 min Hjarlmarrsson 16(?), Leddy around 20 min
nice to see our d-coprs get a break last night. Way ot go Monty and O’D.
Oh and by the way, Mayers is still a bad ass. I really like the way that guy plays hockey.
I wonder when the SCUM pregame thread will go up?
It’s an 11:30 start tomorrow. Most of us will wake up like 15 minutes before puck drop.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 13, 2012 3:04 PM CST reply actions
shit I didn't realize it started that early (12:30 for me)
thanks, for the reminder, I wouldn’t have checked and then probably slept through the game
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Jan 13, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Start
drinking now and don’t even bother going to bed. You’ll be in a PERFECT frame of mind for a Hawks-Scum game. I would, however, put some chicken-wire up in front of my TV if you opt for this strategy.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
we have both kinds of music
Country AND Western!
Chicago Blackhawks: No Longer Rusted Steel on Slush!
You fella's owe me a lot of money for all that beer you drink.
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
But Bob,
when the first round was on the house . . .
Ummm...
That sounds like most nights for some around here
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 13, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
9:30 am out here.
Screw the alarm clock. I already set the DVR.
Fucking Early Game! Yes!
I’m going to have to jog home from work in order to catch it.. but jog I shall! Oddly, this means I’ll be sober when a Hawks game starts.. that’s going to be weird!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
If you haven't time to drink,
at least you should be able to grab a toke or two.
it may come as a surprise to y'all
but I don’t smoke weed.. my body is a temple ( one of those ruined, vine covered ones deep in the Burmese jungle)
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
that was kind of the joke I was making...
I smoke cigarettes too!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
stanfordron is totally one of those cool old dudes
With TONS of great stories.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 13, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
He's forgotten
more stories than you’ve heard.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
should I add him
to the relevant section of SCH For Newcomers?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
C'mon. Need I state the obvious?
Drink at work.
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 13, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
Prediction: New D-Man arrives within 10 days
Stan will pull off a relatively big move within days. By “big” I mean somebody who can do regular shift duty and greatly reduces the need to A) rely on Montador and B) put Leddy in situations to struggle.
Frolik and a top prospect are going. Bickell has the trade value of a used pair of jumper cables, so no he won’t be part of a move.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Beware the declarative statement...
Any idea what Bickell’s life expiration date is?
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
is he a vampire?
if so, this may definitely be a possibility.
Caused by him
being out-of-position defensively.
we just thought it was one of those things
best left “unsolved”…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
what can I do
but flec that!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
I believe he's a
Nexus-9 model . . . let me check my Tyrell manual on that one.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
it's stamped on the back of his head
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
Prediction:
Mars and the scepter will be found conjoined
Under Cancer calamitous war:
Shortly afterwards a new King will be anointed,
One who for a long time will pacify the earth.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 13, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
CNSadamus
well played
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 13, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
another Shawshank ref?
“Alexander Dumbass”
If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
by Timothy Fisher on Jan 13, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
or he goes on a scoring binge....... and suddenly we have too many cooks and not enough kitchen
Bickell didn’t score 19 goals last year as a fluke….he can find the net
Ver™
Raditzzz got me thunking (god help us all)
about learning to skate.. sadly the nearest Ice Rink to me is 300 miles away and there is no NHL (or Olympic) size rink nearer than Belfast.. but while looking that up I hit this..
It’s kind of long, but worth a read, honest
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
Thanks for the link. cool stuff
You should start a rink revolution.
stay still. shut up. pay attention. adopt as signature moves.
bitches couldn't possibly know about my modal epistemology
Twitter
I tell you what, five years ago
I could have gotten a Government grant to do that very thing in about ten minutes. Of course, back then we were using 100 Euro notes to light our cigars/snort half the GDP of Bolivia.. now, sadly, this country is broker than a broken Broker. I may end up back at School in September and I’ve got an idea in my head about inline-Hockey.. but that’ll be it. Sadly it doesn’t even get cold enough for long enough here to skate outdoors.
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
oh, and
this is my favourite bit..
Players scraped together equipment, and even the goaltender had a home made stick consisting of aluminium and concrete and leg pads kept intact by string and tape.
I want to see that stick!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
When I was in college,
I had a friend who was a concrete worker in the summer. He made a concrete bong on the side. Heavy as shit.
"Maan, that's some Heavy Shit!"
“yes, but you don’t actually have to pick the bong up”… to qualify earlier statement, I did, once upon a time, partake. But not for a good fifteen years now…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Not exactly easy to stash, either
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 13, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
lamp shade
right om the end table- no one would know- well- duting daylight hours anyway.
If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
by Timothy Fisher on Jan 13, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
You had to look at it
a few times to even figure out it was a bong. He called it the Cee-ment Bong – stolen from the Cee-ment Pond in the Beverly Hillbillies.
got to be Crow..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
crow get both this weekend?
Or back to ray ray on Sunday?
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
by Z-man24 on Jan 13, 2012 4:59 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
6 months of rehab, yikes.
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Jan 13, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
According to everyone actually
Team has confirmed, he’s done for the year.
Ignore my theory above…
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
any time frame?
I had one but that took me forever to heal. Given the medical and doctors athletes have, did they give any length?
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
They're gonna say a year
but full strength really takes two.
but normal folks dont have the medical docs that athletes have
so it seems about right, it took me a couple years to fully heal
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
I'm thinking about Tommy Harris also.
Wasn’t he ACL too?
That was an intracranial condition called
Being a Dumb Jackass.
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
The Blackhawks' twitter says
“full return in 6 months.” So I guess he’ll be ok by then. Isn’t this what happened to Burish in preseason of the Cup year? he came back in about 6.
by Katherine215 on Jan 13, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
sucks for Carbomb...
but the guy did it to himself on a play he shouldn’t have made.
SCH surprise quiz
I’m writing a term paper and I was hoping you loving folk here at SCH would lend me a hand. Here’s my question:
What active NHL (preferably 3rd line) center do you consider most like Dave Bolland, in either role or skill set?
I’m not interested in answers based on stats (surprise!), I’d appreciate train of thought answers. Who first comes to mind?If someone already posts your choice, please just rec that comment or feel free to add your own. I’ll hang up and wait for your replies. Thanks all.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 13, 2012 5:11 PM CST reply actions
much as it pains me to say this..
Maybe Maxim Lapierre…..? I’m awful, right?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, term quiz...
Ummm, off the top of me head:
Jordan Staal – perhaps better top end skill but definitely the “checking centre” with Crosby/Malkin healthy
Manny Malholtra – less skill, but a sure checking role, better on faceoffs though
Chris Kelly – less skill IMO (but inflated numbers on team that is squashing everyone right now)
Probably others out there if I had more time to think about it…
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 13, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
I think Staal is a really good choice.
Chris Kelly is having a career year now that he’s not in Ottawa.
Not enough time in the bigs
but on the radio last night Bolly said Shaw was a little rat.
Thanks all
I figured I might get J Staal and Malhotra. Was wondering who other might feel are comparables.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 13, 2012 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
wth diPietro
Out prob the rest of the season with hernia surgery.
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
very strong wind
blew through his doctor’s office…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
Hey stanfordron
Quick OT — in conclusion of our Halas discussion yesterday, check this link.
Looks like we were both right — the Bears (McCaskey family) bought the Halas kids’ stock at an undervalued price but they still own some of the skybox stock — non-voting. 20% of the team for $17M — even in 1990 dollars that sounds like a huge steal.
It's on, bitches.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
That may be what the lawsuit was about.
Majority shareholders in close corporations like to screw minority shareholders on valuation. Its a major topic in first semester business associations.
value and ownership
seems like the mccaskeys were only too happy to go through with that purchase, therefore screwing their niece/nephew out of their legacy. that’s why this left such a bad taste in my mouth.
It's on, bitches.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
by hawkeytalk on Jan 14, 2012 8:55 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Wanted to clear something up concerning suspended players.
Found it in the Emergency callup list. A suspended player is NOT on the active roster concerning emergency callups. So Carcillo is NOT taking up a roster spot whether he is on IR or is suspended.
13.14 Transfer Form.
…
(b) (i) A Club Recalling a Player from a minor league club, under
emergency conditions, must specify on the transfer form the name of the injured, ill or suspended Player whom the Player on emergency Recall is replacing.
So that is why Carcillo wasn’t on IR. He doesn’t need to be. The transfer form is the only place I have seen where it includes suspended players. Gawd the CBA is a poorly written document.
But is there another clause
that defines “emergency conditions”?
I suspected that.
You have to know how lawyers think . . .
So they could keep Smith with the big club if they wanted to?
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
by Z-man24 on Jan 13, 2012 7:16 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
No
But it means the Hawks don’t have to put a forward on IR if they are sick. You can just use Carcillo’s spot. Just think of the Hawks active roster as 22 and they can make it 23 if they need to.
Alert: some primo grade suck-up here
So-o-o-o many compliments on today’s links, which went well beyond the Hawks beaters and bloggers — and many threads prompted by those links.
And zero recs for J?!?
Me, I’m a believer in positive reinforcement.
(I warned you……)
Hey! I take penumbrage at that!
a normal Friday night at "Ron's"

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
Add in a little backgammon
and its a typical Friday night circa 1975.
1975...
right about when I was getting conceived… I see a pattern here!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
I can tell y'all
a lot about your parents – even if I never actually met them.
time to be OT..
but I should add that my third favourite Rock Band of all time is from Chicago… Eleventh Dream Day, step forward!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
Saw them last month
They opened for Wilco at one of the residency shows. They were great.
It's on, bitches.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
I'm praying they sign up for Primavera in Barcelona this year..
as they “reform” infrequently and I’ve not yet had the pleasure!
Oh, and.. what a great f’n show!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
Sarah and the Stalker made it to PD
I usually ignore the comments on PD, but since the story is only tangentially hockey related and PD isn’t really a hockey blog, the comments are worth a read through. Golden.
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 13, 2012 7:43 PM CST reply actions
spectacular...
PD Comments: Making Me Feel Better About My Dumb Self since 2010
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
That's Montador interviewing her after the game isn't it?
So hilarious.
It's on, bitches.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
yeah..
the little eye-roll at the end is amazing!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 13, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
Speaking of Mon-TA-dor
Anybody else hear him yell “Pick a side Shawsy” during the Wild game. I am getting the feeling that he is a" take control" kinda of fellar. …ya know like a "Big Toe’ ….Sgt. Hulka
Ver™
I've also seen it talked about on ESPN a few times today.
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous! Beautius J. Beautius!
Fuck Radim Vrbata.
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Jan 13, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
A telenovela reference? That's great. My class watched it in Spanish 3.
Ben Smith! gets sent back to Rockford and scores the OT GWG. I’m just happy when he plays. Also a hat trick for Brouwer is so great. The Caps are pretty disappointing with no celebration pics though.
Vancouver
has played 17 games at home, 26 on the road and leads the league in points.
We have 11 of the next 15 on the road.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
Can't add any more (w/ a degree in Math),
17 19 games at home
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

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