Morning Links (1/19)
by Second City Southpaw on Jan 19, 2012 7:14 AM CST
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I'm new around here so help me out: If a blowout victory is a David Lee Roth, is a blowout loss a Gary Cherone? You have your choice of two middle names (Francis or Caine) if you need an extra initial.
Discuss.
- Charlie, beat the beats, the beats you beat (Game recaps): (Myers); (Jahns); (Rogers)
- It's a madhouse, or so they claim (Blogger perspectives): (Fifth Feather); (Hockeenight); (The Third Man In)
- Trib's Chris Kuc writes that the kids are playing to stay
- Hjammer is now more hit-conscious (Trib)
- Tracey Myers: Hawks blueline is chipping in
- Bettman hopes to begin new CBA talks after the All-Star break (NHL.com)
- A little provocative snark to start your day: Vancouver Sun''s Cam Cole works the asterisk key over the next Winter Classic
- THN's Adam Proteau spotlights the top 10 comeback players of this season; no Hawks but Steeger made the list.
- NHL.com's stats and recaps of last night's games: Caps 3, Habs 0; Les Sabres 2, Good Guys 6; Panthers 3, Avs 4 (OT); Coyotes 2, Ducks 6
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Kane
had no points last night. You should trade him.
Kane for Keith Ballard. Straight up. Sounds good right?
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It appears your comment was flagged 88 times in the first hour
I believe that’s a new record.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 19, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions
This terrorism will not stand.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 19, 2012 9:13 AM CST up reply actions
Two Hawks
NHL.com stars last night, Toews and Beauchemin (hehe)
by chelsea_dangler on Jan 19, 2012 8:03 AM CST reply actions
I dunno
They’re still pretty well buried as far as a potential playoff berth.
by Paul the Fossil on Jan 19, 2012 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think we can start picking apart the Ducks like vultures and buzzards.
The core of their team is extremely young. The balance of what they’d get in return is far outweighed by keeping guys like Getzlaf, Perry, and Ryan.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 19, 2012 9:16 AM CST up reply actions
Didn't know Blake was made of unicorn dust horseshoes
mind you, neither did anyone else from the looks of things.
all right, this isn't going to be big on dignity
The Winter classic
should be moved to the Sunday before the superbowl. That would fill a huge void on the sports calendar, at least for the American audience. While I like having original 6 teams, it seems like Canadians outside Toronto really hate the Leafs.
by pang off the post on Jan 19, 2012 8:18 AM CST reply actions
hey guys!
It may be a bit of that. But mainly, its the fact that they seem to contradict their “merit” reasoning for any team in the WC. I mean, the Leafs have not made the playoffs for like 7 years!
I don’t know about the “hate”…more like the ROC was force fed the Leafs every Saturday for our whole life, and it kind of left a bad taste is all.
There is no denying that it is a good matchup business wise though
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guh
that article was such a downer. i know the media covers all the angles, but i would hate to be the one trying to drag the WC through the mud. the nhl has a good, novel thing going that they are trying to etch as their own, and so far they have. they have taken a regular season game, put a nostalgic spin on it, and made it more interesting than any all star game for any sport. the WC will stay that way as long as the teams are playing for something (ie, 2 points).
sure, the league is gonna hawk a bunch of crap about “merit” for getting to play in it, but we can all easily see through that statement and realize its about the best business moves. that said, the thing is only a few years old, so after about 5 or 6 more years, they will start broadening the horizon to teams not on the east coast or O6. besides, everybody was moaning about how canadian teams don’t get to play, and here we have the leafs in it. makes complete sense to get the biggest canadian fanbase involved first. although i would love nothing more than to see a hawks canucks WC at soldier field.
Yea
They gotta get a Canadjen team in one, and Leafs Nation which will be totally into this is already used to driving an hour or two past the border to shop or whatever. And the Wings’ fan base will certainly turn out for the event (in fact I bet a lot of the Wings fans who now live around here will get tickets and make the drive to A-squared).
And that writer also seems to forgetting that this annual event is really still an evolving concept. It makes sense for the league to keep experimenting with it not to just keep trying to copy the first 3 or 4. Trying a somewhat new scenario makes sense. Keep trying stuff with it.
In that spirit a logical next thing to try would be to (a) go further west and (b) involve a West Coast team/fanbase. Were I in the league office I’d be proposing that one year from now whichever looks to be the strongest Cup contender among the Avalanche/Wild/Blues should be booked to host the then-strongest West Coast team on 1/1/14.
by Paul the Fossil on Jan 19, 2012 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
Cam Cole
is clearly nothing but a jealous dolt.
The WC is obviously a joke because the Canucks have never played in it. This guy’s tinfoil hat gets tighter all the time.
I think anyone would concede that there have been glitches along the way with the concept, but that overall it’s a big winner for the NHL. A game in Ann Arbor will be outstanding — and not dampened a bit by the inability of the fans to see much of the game itself. I went to WC2 at Wrigley and I got news for you — I didn’t see much of the game there. What would have been great seats for baseball (about 10 rows up, behind 1st base) had a poor sightline under the circumstances — but it was still absolutely awesome to be there.
Memo to Mr. Cole: it’s about the fucking experience! And the game will look great on TV. Has he noticed that the ability to put TV cameras so much closer to the ice in these outdoor games has made for some terrific angles for the telecast? This is a made-for-TV spectacle. As long as there’s a big crowd and cold weather, the game will do well and continue to provide unprecedented exposure for hockey.
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Yeah,
but that was an exhibition game where quality of play wasn’t of much concern. For a regular season game, I think you’d want a good ice surface (although it would be nice if someone pointed that out to the folks at the UC).
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interesting points all
Cam Cole is an older sportswriter that is now the cranky old guy. Don’t read that too literal. Like many sports writers ( hello Rozner and Rogers, Hawks PR firm ltd ;-) hyperbole sells.
His point is a good one. This is a marquee matchup for business reasons only. The Wings have ( with out looking up the record, I am pretty sure of it ) pummeled the Leafs for a long time now. Its like you guys and say…Columbus, and whomever the whipping boy is.
Its about the business, I get it. I am sure the Ann Arbor thing will be an awesome “experience” as well. I am jealous you got to go is the thing. I freely admit that. Its ridiculous, in a pure hockey and non whining Canuck fan perspective, that simply the best Canadian team for quite some time now has been shut out of the HC for Flames, Oilers,Canadians x 2…I mean, the last one of those was a fucking battle for 8th goddamn place in their respective conferences at the time with the Flambes and Habs.
Meanwhile, there is a perfect rivalry to revive what was a staler 24/7 with Torts and Lavy et al is sitting right there.
Soldier Field, Wrigley , Kaminsky ( is that right now, or the White Sox play in a corporate field now?), it does not matter.
Or, if they want to go X’rated, Bruins and Canucks at Gillette of Fenway Part Deux…seems that the Bruins really hate us more than you guys ever could.
(which, I have to say guys, listening to their ongoing “talk” in the media, they seem to have took that loss bad ). It really made me appreciate how good we have it with the Hawks / Canucks. The hockey is great, there is just the “right” amount of hate without the need for injury in a dirty way. Mostly its just consistent, high quality hockey from teams that don’t like each other, but aren’t stupid about it..
How about one in our brand new stadium? The screen is second only to Texas Stadium for size, the roof is there if they want to avoid a REALLY big downpour ( the weather here since 2010 has been quite wintery ), and it looks fantastic open…downtown …in a waterfront stadium.
All about TV, NBC remembers the ratings they got in ’10. Marketing that would be easy peasy.
You guys come visit us. Seems to be that we get our asses kicked in those games the last couple anyhow! If they want to go West, that game would have a fair amount of past trophy winners in individual categories as well.
Done and done. : – ?
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It was Comiskey
and has been US Cellular feel for awhile now.
by Katherine215 on Jan 20, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
I hate the Leafs
and a Leafs/Wings winter classic means I’m cheering for the meteor. Not to mention how uninteresting 24/7 with them would be.
all right, this isn't going to be big on dignity
true story
andrew shaw stepped onto the ice at joe louis arena and this picture shows what happened to it:
Is that a picture of detroit?
it’s looking better than it usually does
I like what they've done with the place.
Definitely a better usage of all that eminent domain.
by northernsails on Jan 19, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Haters gonna hate!
Finkel is Einhorn, Toews is Bickell?
Hahahaha! I know this will make most of you gag like Ace Ventura!
Commence the crying game.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 19, 2012 8:53 AM CST reply actions
so i wasnt on peyote when i saw that
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist
by BigCSouthside on Jan 19, 2012 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
The broadcast was so terrible
At least the moving pictures… mostly because they stopped moving, turned to black or looked like that had Parkinsons. Must have crapped out a handful of times last night. That’s two NBCSN broadcasts in a row with that issue. They need to get it worked out. It’s nearing WGN levels of bad.
On the positive side, Doc Emrick is still a joy to listen to. Makes Eddie an actual color commentator instead of a hokey joke artist. Pat will forever be the voice of the Hawks to me, but it’s nice to have a guy that adds to the game instead of taking away from it.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
my favorite thing about eiddie
is when he completely disagrees with pierre and then pierre shuts up.
by Raditzzzz on Jan 19, 2012 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
At least he corrects himself after the fact
Pat just hopes you don’t notice.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, Edzo didja notice how Crawford didn't move quickly to the other side?
“hey, Edzo, can I shine your skates once in awhile? Hey Edzo, would you please deign to notice me down here?” God, so sick of that schtick – STFU would you please, Pierre.
3rd man announcing teams rarely work anyway
I think only football (along with hockey) uses this format primarily. There’s nothing a 3rd person can offer that the announcing teams up in the booth can’t already see IMHO.
Ken Rosensquirrel and his bowtie collection are pissed
Tim McCarver is the Pierre McGuire of that group though.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
I think it's a good concept
Keeping a guy between the benches. Gives you a bit of insight as to what’s going on with the players that the broadcasting duo can’t quite see. But there’s probably a better candidate than Pierre out there.
I was gonna say this
but then you did so…. yeah what you said
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yes pretty much
and I do think Pierre provides some good info some of the time, but 1) his voice is so freaking irritating, 2) the good moments are rapidly followed by a slew of “Hey Edzo” comments that are also damn annoying
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 19, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
I was playing an imaginary game
Every time Doc said ricochet, I got a dollar. He owes me a lot of money.
Hold My Stones
Also works with "finesse"
There are some who call me........Tim?
Tremendously tremendous! Beautius J. Beautius!
Fuck Radim Vrbata.
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Jan 19, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Or "FIRED!"
I did appreciate the Slap Shot reference last night thought
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
Knifed the puck
Where you goin? Nowhere!
by BlackhawksFan22 on Jan 19, 2012 12:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Reflexed away.
I’ve always hated Dick Emerick. Just my $0.02
by northernsails on Jan 19, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Or when he doesn’t know they score.
“…lots of head fakes there, trying to shake Timmonen, threw one in front, they….oh my …it …..rattled around…..and it kicked on back…and…..score(?)”
light em up
Yeah, you remember when Kane scored the winning goal
In Game 5 vs. Nashville
by CjSax on Jan 19, 2012 6:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Doc: I don't see the puck, but I often don't, so I'll wing it.
Shoots…….. and the puck rattles around to the far corner….. and….. He Scores……. But there’s no official signal…. no red light…. but Kane thinks he scored….
In Doc’s defense, he probably did the same thing I do when I loose sight of the puck around the net, glance at the ref, who in this case, looked in the net (right at the bit of puck protruding from under the cage) and then cast a confused glance into the corner where Kaner was starting his tribal dance.
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by Sparky The Barbarian on Jan 19, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
I was actually referring to when he screamed "KANE" after Hossa had scored the winner
He gets a pass on the Kane goal; nobody knew what the hell was going on…except, of course, for Kane.
At least when Doc calls players the wrong names
He’s calling the game.
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by Sparky The Barbarian on Jan 19, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
keep waiting for the kids to hit a wall
but so far they’re just motoring along, doing all the big (and little) things that make you want them to stay up here.
btw Bolland's back, baby
they’ve got at least 3 lines working right now, and maybe 4 on most nights.
Now if we can just tighten up the D
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by Sparky The Barbarian on Jan 19, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
They will, eventually
I’m enjoying the ride while it’s taking place however Andrew Shaw has become the new Ben Smith it seems. 8 game sample sizes appear to be enough to grant you top 6 winger status. He’s contributing all over right now which is fantastic. PK, PP and ES. I don’t expect him to keep denting the scoresheet this frequently. His energy, skating and desire are all positive attributes to the club.
Not trying to be a wet blanket here, just trying to properly calibrate my expectations.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
Well they're scoring at a 25% clip
Of course that’ll drop off. Still fun to watch them do their thing. And even if their scoring shows, we know we can’t be concerned with their level of effort. They’re both better than Smith though.
We have no idea if either is better than Smith
Because we have no idea how good all 3 of those guys are. They’ve played, collectively, under 40 NHL games.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
Hmmm
I think we have an idea with Shaw and Hayes. We’re just trying to contain the exuberance and confirm that what we’re seeing isn’t an aberration.
The thing is with Shaw, it’s not like he just gets lucky around the net. He makes plays. He’s getting PK time. He’s gritty and has shown some great athleticism to go with those hands. Did you see that play last night where he basically caught a lofted puck with his blade at the blue line and had it settled in one smooth motion. This kid is a player.
He's still a 5th round draft pick
That’s been impressive in his first 8 games in the Show. That’s all I’m sayin’
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 9:22 AM CST up reply actions
Two words: Datsyuk Zetterberg...
No Shagga, No Dagga
by Saskjet on Jan 19, 2012 10:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Shaw's new nickname
“BetterThanZetter”
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 19, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he makes goalies wetter.
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Ewww?
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I meant that he makes them pee themselves in fear
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That's still kinda gross...
Pee on the Ice!!
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A snickers bar?
at least that’s kinda what that looks like.
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Glad someone got that right
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
by Z-man24 on Jan 19, 2012 2:55 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I guess you have to be older
before you understand a log is more like a Baby Ruth than a Snickers.
Never been a huge fan of Baby Ruths
and I saw a peanut, so my first thought was snickers bar… And while I’ve seen Caddyshack (Cue Blasphemy) it didn’t strike such a huge chord with me, I thought it was funny but it didn’t really stick with me. Probably a generational thing.
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shhhh you'll scare him away
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I wish we had Huet
What a great goalie. Does Havlat play C? We could use a 2nd line center you know.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
If you are merely looking at stats
then, yes. But if you watch them on the ice and the totality of their games, they (at least Shaw and Hayes) are definitely hockey players. Besides the goals, Shaw does all the little things Q loves. When he gets his stick on the puck in the D zone, he gets it out of the D zone (unlike Frolik for example who will try something fancy and not get the puck out). When he had to get the puck deep to get D men off the ice, he knew it – and he knew how to do it. Hayes is the anti-Bickell. He is always in great position. On one recent telecast they were talking about how well-coached he was coming up. It definitely shows in his game.
by stanfordron on Jan 19, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Had the refs not fucked it up
The Kruger goal would probably have been the play of the day due to Shaw’s acrobatics
As it stands
Bolly’s slapper on that nice drop pass from The Jimmy gets the prettiest play of the night nod.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Q
also likes to ride the hot hand. I don’t think there is any point in arguing if a guy is or isn’t a top-6 forward. As long as the puck is following him around you give him the minutes. Especially with some guys out and yet other guys not producing.
Hot hand, yes!
keep Travis and Scott in the pressbox or worse, and let the kids play!
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Jan 19, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know if they are top six -
I wouldn’t be surprised if 36-39-65 became our third line.
by stanfordron on Jan 19, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
I missed part of the 2nd period
I know Gaustad went out with an UBI due to a hit from Mayers, but does anyone know what the injury was, or appeared to be?
Last time I make a trade speculation.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 19, 2012 9:14 AM CST reply actions
Or maybe
You should make more…
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by DesertHawk on Jan 19, 2012 9:21 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
not until you can spell his name correctly
Kesler
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Don't know for sure
but if I had to guess from the way he was hit I would say shoulder
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I agree
The way he was skating off the ice and moving on the bench to leave the game, it looked like he barely moved his left shoulder.
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by CementHeadStu on Jan 19, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
Quote of the week
belongs to the Feather…
I wish Patrick Kane would just score a goal already so every moron can stop playing amateur psychiatrist.
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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
by HawkVision on Jan 19, 2012 9:16 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
This.
If I have to hear anyone- Chicago meathead or national ‘commentator’ (Mike fucking Milbury) bemoan the ‘dramatic depression of Patrick Kane’ again, I’m going to smash the speakers on my television.
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 19, 2012 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Hey it looks like they're just playing rink hockey out there
Milbury’s the Fred Flintsone of hockey commenters.
Fred's too smart and refined
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 19, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
Brilliantly astute, Rick Morrisey
Either way, he’s looking for answers. So are the Hawks. So is anyone who wonders what is happening to one of the anchors of the franchise.
What. The. Fuck?
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Yep.
And he makes a beautiful dollar for that kind of insightful analysis.
by bluekoolaide on Jan 19, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
He makes it sound as if Kane is in the fetal position, crying before every game.
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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
by HawkVision on Jan 19, 2012 11:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
If we can't find a story, we'll make one up.
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by Sparky The Barbarian on Jan 19, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Alright.
I get it. Pat Foley and Eddie sometimes stray off of the subject. But I have to tell you, seeing half the fucking board filled up everyday with bitching about the damn broadcast team is getting fucking old. Are we really that hard up for things to bitch about that we’re beating the broadcast team to death with constant whining? It makes us sound fucking stupid. They call the game. Foley is well-regarded as a long-time popular announcer and the voice of the Hawks. Edzo doubles as a national commentator. But they’re our broadcast team and they’re not fucking Milbury and Pierre. Time to hang up the griping and just point it out when the moment demands it during games if an especially egregious incident occurs. But for now, can we all just shut the fuck up with the bitching about Foley and his partner?
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 19, 2012 9:34 AM CST reply actions
While I don't quite share your anger about it
I do have to agree. I live in MN and watch the Wild games on TV every now and again and the Hawks broadcast team is waaaaaayyy better and make the game more fun to watch than the Wild broadcast team. My guess is that this is probably true for most other broadcasting teams too. Like you said, sure they stray, but they are still better than the vast majoring of other options.
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I could get upset. Things could get out of hand. Then in self defense, I could do something to you that you would not like, right here.
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by thepuckstopshere31 on Jan 19, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
What a great movie.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 19, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
One in my top 10 for sure!
I miss Dale & Pat. Outside of that, what about John Wiedeman taking his gig on the boob tube!
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by thepuckstopshere31 on Jan 19, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
you're definitely allowed to have your opinion
But bitching about your team’s broadcasts is s time- honored custom, or have you just recently arrived here? Here’s an idea – next time just use your z key and scroll past it, rather than losing your collective shit.
by Waylon on Jan 19, 2012 10:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Can one person
lose their collective shit? Seems like he’d be losing his individual shit.
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by Brian C on Jan 19, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I am only responsible for my own shit.
I cannot be beholden to the shit-losing of others.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 19, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
What is the result of one collective shit losing?
I wanted the Packers to win the Super Bowl, Megan!
I dunno
Maybe if they shit in the yard?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 19, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
It's because they never shut up.
If Foley would just announce the game and Eddie would act like an adult more often, there would be no reason to bitch. As it is, they miss a lot of the game and annoy the hell out of some of us.
Who asked you anyway?
Hold My Stones
The problem is that Foley tends to go off on tangents that have little or nothing...
…to do with the game and can be really distracting. I actually find myself muting him from time to time which NEVER used to happen. I call it “Harry Caray Syndrome”. It happens to a lot of good announcers as the years start to kick in.
Still, I have to agree that if that’s our biggest problem, we’re in pretty good shape.
by bluekoolaide on Jan 19, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
This
“I actually find myself muting him from time to time which NEVER used to happen.” Yep that’s my household now too. When the announcing team becomes a less useful/enjoyable experience than watching the game in silence…seems like kind of an acid test.
by Paul the Fossil on Jan 19, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Next time I have an opinion, I'll check in with you first.
Until then. I’ll recommend to everyone I know that they ensure you ask them before they comment. Fair enough?
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 19, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
That's sort of ironic
Seeing how you basically just told everyone to keep their opinions to themselves.
by Skags on Jan 19, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Anybody
wanna talk about our goalie situation?
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Sure.
We need to keep scoring a lot of goals due to our goalie situation.
by stanfordron on Jan 19, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
new game plan
do not allow any shots on goal
We could get into a discussion on the merits of shots, amount of shots, and quality of shots if you have a few extra hours
Hold my stones I'm on IR
We probably should also
discuss the “luck” factor in great detail.
My discussions
always seem to suffer after too many shots. Or so I’m told. Frankly, I always thought I got WAY smarter.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
No.
The more you drink, the more the people around you get dumber.
did you fall asleep again old man?
zzzzzzzzz
SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)
See what you started!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 19, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
For the 1496th time
No.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 19, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
1 in 132
Author of The Cubs Transaction Report
Ahhhh, we have sort of a problem here
Apparently you didn’t put a cover sheet on your tpo report.
I’ll make sure you get another copy of the memo.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 19, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Yes CNS I got the memo
“Well see, they wrote all this bank software, and, uh, to save space, they used two digits for the date instead of four. So, like, 98 instead of 1998? Uh, so I go through these thousands of lines of code and, uh… it doesn’t really matter. I uh, I don’t like my job, and, uh, I don’t think I’m gonna go anymore.”
Hold My Stones
If anyone has the financial stability to actually just not go to their job anymore
I highly recommend it. I did it and it was everything I hoped it would be.
Yeah..., I've...I've, never really like paying taxes either...
So I’m not going to do that anymore either.
Gold.
You are next.
Short and sweet. I like the cut of your jib.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Jan 19, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Bettman and the CBA
I get the feeling that Bettman is desperate to avoid another labor war. I just don’t think that he wants that on his resume, and certainly he’s avoiding all the doom-and-gloom talk that Stern and Goodell spent a good year going out of their way to give.
But I wonder how well he can control the other owners, especially the hardliner small market guys that damn near sunk the NBA? And I wonder what the union proposals will look like, and whether or not they’ll stoke the divisions between the owners. Right now I’m guessing no worse than an NFL-style skirmish, where the two sides spend the offseason bickering before straightening it all out just in time. But I’m not very confident in that prediction one way or the other; I wouldn’t be surprised if a lockout is avoided altogether, and I wouldn’t be surprised if things get nasty.
All four major sports leagues had CBA renewals within a year, and the NHL’s looks relatively unantagonistic right now but the outcome also seems more unpredictable.
Author of The Cubs Transaction Report
I wouldn't hold your breathe about there not being a lockout.
Remember the same guy who is leading the charge for the players union is the same one that got a W.S. cancelled in baseball. Donald Fehr is the fucking devil incarnate and I wish he had nothing to do with my favorite sport. Fuck that guy.
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Jan 19, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Fehr
He also presided over the next two rounds of MLB bargaining without a work stoppage. And at any rate, the current NHL labor environment – at this time, anyway – does not match the notoriously belligerent MLB environment in between the start of free agency in the 1970s and the lead-up to the 1994 strike.
You’re being unfair.
Author of The Cubs Transaction Report
Fehr is definitely the main reason to be worried right now.
Still, it’s hard for me to believe that the guys in charge would be so reckless in starting another labor war.
Money tends to trump common sense at times like this though.
by bluekoolaide on Jan 19, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
No
Fehr is definitely not the main reason to be worried right now. The main reason to be worried right now is the same reason the NFL and NBA just had lockouts – because the owners are divided, and a faction of them are going to take a hard line.
How big of a faction? We don’t know. Can Bettman manage them? We don’t know. Is Fehr going to be causing problems just to cause problems? No. He’ll act on the players’ concerns, and he’ll defend them all-out if the owners decide to play rough, but he’s not going to rock the boat just for the sake of it. Again, look at his history after the MLB strike; MLB is now by far the most peaceful of the four major sports leagues.
Author of The Cubs Transaction Report
Agreed 100%.
Blaming the MLB strike on Fehr is a bit much. The hardliners who hired Selig are the main perpetrators (along with Selig himself), but fortunately Selig learned that a rising tide lifts all ships and got the whiny owners in line for the last two.
The biggest reason for the labor peace in MLB is that the owners do what Selig tells them; it’s hard to imagine Bettman having that kind of control, so who knows what will happen.
It would be a real dick move for the NHL owners to go hardline in this negotiation, after they won probably the biggest clawback for the ownership side in the history of sports during the last negotiation.
I didn't mean to imply that Fehr was the reason for the baseball strike...
I was thinking more along the lines that you don’t hire someone like Fehr…like him or not he’s a warrior for labor and he usually comes out ahead…unless your preparing for battle. At least that’s the way I look at it. Maybe I’m wrong-I certainly hope I am.
Also, a big reason for labor peace in MLB is that everybody, owners AND players are making SO much money right now that no one would be stupid enough to kill the golden goose.
by bluekoolaide on Jan 19, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
except the NFL just had a lockout
So I don’t think the “too much money” theory holds much water.
Author of The Cubs Transaction Report
Sully here needs some anger management
It’s just silly string… I’ve seen Tommy Hawk do worse.
“Hey Murph! You see that P.O.D is goin’ on tour-ah again? I’m so fackin’ pumped!”
[gets silly string’d]
“WHAT THE FACK!? I just fackin’ bought this-ah sweatah!”
[removes bike chain worn as necklace, tackles mascot]
“THAT’S FACKIN’ RIGHT! Red Sawks hackey nation doesn’t take shit from Tampa! This is for the Rays-ah knawkin’ out the Sawks last year-ah! If they had-ah gawten in the playawfs, we woulda had owah third title in a decade! NO ONE DENIES THIS!”
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 9:51 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Damned youth of the Bruins nation
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 19, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Anyone been to Hock Tock?
The site his hilarious and it cracks me up…..but I cant help but think this when I watch.
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random goaltending knowledge of the day
the goaltending stance is the basic foundation for a tender, but there are different styles that tenders have used throughout hockey. of course one must stay squared to the puck and on angel, but once there, some goalies, like price here, prefer a “relaxed” stance to help give the appearance of taking up the most amount of net.
this stance keeps the back relatively parallel with the ice, giving prominence to the blocking surface of the chest and is popular with most modern goaltenders who are “blocking” type tenders.
others prefer a deep crouch like niemi here:
this style sacrifices actual net coverage but seems to be used (paradoxically) by smaller goaltenders who rely more on athleticism and reflexes (which actually makes some sense, because they tend to rely a bit less on pure blocking abilities since they take up less net). see richter here for a pretty extreme example:
by Raditzzzz on Jan 19, 2012 10:04 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Mike Richter: LEGEND
Thank you for 1994, Mikey. We didn’t know we’d be grateful to you then, but we sure as shit are now.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
speaking of a compact stance
relying on athleticism, nothing shows it better than richter’s save on bure
My favorite was the post's save on LaFayette
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
And since we're talking announcers this morning
Sam Rosen is a fantastic hockey announcer.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Now when I get the rest of my goalie stuff
I might know how to stand….I’m short so standing tall wouldn’t be really an option. Good read here.
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
Give Darren Pang a call
He can tell you how to cover your 6-hole.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
…and he'll tell you how to do it the white way.
I felt bad for him on that one.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 19, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
That was a complete, "what did he just say?" moment. Whoa.
At least he got right back on after commercial and addressed his tongue slip.
You are next.
I felt bad for him. Darren Pang seems like the nicest man of all time.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 19, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
pang
is easier to spell than Nieuwendyke
by pang off the post on Jan 19, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
i wouldn't
think of it as “your body type is this way, play in this stance,” but more of a try and find what’s comfortable. that said, an understanding of the pros and cons of a particular stance can help you figure out what you might need to be aware of in a save situation.
For Richter
It was known as “taking a dump on the Nucks”
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 19, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Dat's a rec
I enjoy these posts. (that’s what the goalie said??) They’re Rad.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 19, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
Intersting stat to chew on(and an FU to BOS fans and all other who think no hockey happens west of the Appalachians)
4 of the 11 teams in the NHL with a POSITIVE Goal differential are from the Central Division. This means 19 NHL teams have an Even or Neg Goal Differential.
EC =5
WC = 6
NE Division = 1(BOS)
Atlantic = 3 (PHI, NYR, PIT)
Southeast =1 (WAS)
Central =4 (CHI, DET, STL, NSH)
Northwest = 1 (VAN)
Pacific = 1 (SJS)
And no, CBJ negative GD does not even come close to accounting for the other teams positive GD in the Central.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 19, 2012 11:22 AM CST reply actions
The lesson here?
Ohio ruins everything.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Taylor Hall: The Boy Who Lived
It’s gruesome so proceed with caution. He’s VERY lucky.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 12:09 PM CST reply actions
He looks like a horse that escaped after getting halfway through the glue factory.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 19, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
What happened to him?
Curator of Dark Side of the Five Hole
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he piled it up with another guy in pre-skate along the boards
A third guy tried jumping to avoid and landed on Hall’s head
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
by Z-man24 on Jan 19, 2012 2:10 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Holy Ouch Batman!!
Curator of Dark Side of the Five Hole
I like our guys, especially these guys.
Unapologetic apologist for hockey South of the Mason/Dixon
o/t but in case you feared
you had nothing left to live for, I give you, this.
With my deepest condolences.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
Oh man
The #ShawFacts thing really took off. Check out some of these if you haven’t already. They’re a good laugh.
It did
They were great. can’t wait to check out some more. I missed some of the ones posted last night. Classic. Plus the fact that he wrote one after the game made it that much more awesome
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
HA!
oh man … those are so great. i think im crying they’re so funny!
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Between Shaw Facts and a mid-90s Rangers reference...
…you’d think I took this site over.
HOCKEENIGHT.COM...home of FRIDAY NIGHT FIGHTS and the HOCKEENIGHT PUCKCAST!!!
Nitty go bye bye?
Brodie Brazil @brodiebrazilCSN 3m
Niittymaki no longer has locker stall inside HP pavilion. #SJSharks
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hmmm
I wonder who Stevie Y is sending SJ’s way
(I’m only assuming Nitty is going to TB since he has a relationship with The Lightning and TB is in some seriously deep doo doo both goal-tending and standings wise)
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
well then, the other Hawks got some serious regressin' to do
67% guys, let’s do it
(Then there’s the 100% at the dot last night, what is this world coming to?)
Hey! I take penumbrage at that!
so, here's the State Of The West ahead of tonight's games..
Still tighter than Ebenezer Scrooge on “Buy Nothing Day”
Poor old Minnesota got bumped from the Playoff Picture by the Avs last night.. and look who’s got the second-best streak in the conference!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
jeez, SJ has played so few games compared to us (and most everybody else)!
This is going to be a seriously tough race to the end.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 19, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
the ones to watch, for me,
are the Preds.. look at their last 10.. they’ve gotten very, very hot and are breathing down the necks of the top three in the Central
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 19, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah that's a damn good run of games they've had
we’ve got a lot of teams right on our asses though. I think like last year, positions will be changing daily. If we can keep our streak going, I like to think though, that when Sharp comes back, and certain players get going, we’ll be even more “dangerous” and in an even better position to create some seperation. Optimism ftw!
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 19, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Kane; the one who shall not be named.
Certain players… You can say his name, it’s not cursed.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
hah i just don't want to say it and get another "discussion" going
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 20, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
funnily enough
our buddies at Anaheim Calling have a taboo about mentioning Kaner by name in their pre-game threads..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 20, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
hah that's because whoever did one of the pregame threads talked about liking him or something, no?
they posted here a few times i believe
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 20, 2012 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
But I don’t see them sustaining an .800 pace for that long. Eventually they’ll flatline into one of the lower playoff spots. Not to say they won’t be pesky.
Also looks like the “blob” is lower this year; only 4 points separating 8th and 12th.
It's on, bitches.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
yeah...the 'Blob'
is downright terrifying!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 19, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Misleading
Here’s a more accurate portrayal (ppg basis):
St. Louis
Detroit
San Jose
Chicago
Vancouver
We like our people!
but Cleeeef!
The seedings, man! And I’ll stick by my usual statement that they actually have to win those games in hand…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 19, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
um...how exactly do two teams from the same division get in the top three?
by northernsails on Jan 19, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
ah, ok. But realistically not possible
by northernsails on Jan 19, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Good grief
It’s theoretically quite possible that this represents an accurate ranking of the best teams in the West, which is all I purported it to be. Or are you being deliberately obtuse?
We like our people!
>90 degrees on purpose, yes.
But it’s not realistically possible for the final playoff rankings to look like that.
by northernsails on Jan 19, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
possession being nine-tenths etc etc
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 19, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
maybe reasonable people can disagree on this
But I’m inclined to believe most numerate people will agree with me.
A game in hand in the NHL Is worth more than a point. 12 of 16 teams in the West have averaged more than a point per game. Among the top 5 teams, games are worth about 1.3.
I’d rather be Detroit (61 points thru 46 games) than the Hawks (62 points thru 47 games.)
I don’t think this is just a matter of opinion or preference. I think if you disagree, you’re wrong.
We like our people!
fair enough
it still stands though.. this is what is, not what might be.. but we can agree to disagree (and be wrong) on this..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 19, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
bleargh i like mmds chart better
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 19, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Actually looking at his name, I think we should just call him "MD", not MMD...he does after all have a "Doctorate of the Interwebz", on call seemingly 24 hours/ day
No Shagga, No Dagga
oh, come on..
MMDMD is much more fun..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 19, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Extremely OT
but what if during hawks game and they show the fans eating what would you do if you saw this?
http://gifsoup.com/view4/1781081/cotton-candy-don-vito-o.gif
Sorry about having a link my computer wont let me just post it directly
Im too lazy to make a signature
According to ESPN, a certain godly Slovakian is currently the best player of ice hockey in the NHL...
No Shagga, No Dagga
it's Tomokop, right?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 19, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Does anyone have access to that article through (fucking) ESPN (useless) Insider (crap)?
Irritating to not be able to read the whole thing…JMH, pony up with the $3.33/ month and distribute the content, c’mon
No Shagga, No Dagga
I got a loophole
I signed up for Insider in 2002 when I was in college because I wanted to use it for the NCAA basketball tournament. It was $15.99 for a year or $200 for a lifetime subscription. Being a broke college student that just got his first credit card, you can guess which option I chose.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 19, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
*cough CRACKDOWN ON ONLINE PIRACY cough
Prank caller, prank caller!!
(seriously, best not to post that, in lieu of our new stance)
Oh, right, nuthin to see here, move along...*cough *cough
OK, now where’s the link?
No Shagga, No Dagga
Some love for our little (insert favorite nickname)
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