Morning Links (1/24)
by Second City Southpaw on Jan 24, 2012 6:52 AM CST
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The Blackhawk calendar you got for attending the first home game may say it's Tuesday, but to the Hawks, it must feel like a Friday. Tonight's game against Nashville is the last one before the All-Star break, and with Shooter and the Captain out, facing a Preds team that play like it's 1999--literally and in the fashion of the Prince song--it may be a good idea to adjust our expectations.
Enjoy the festivities, all.
Game Previews: (CSN Chicago); (Trib)
Blackhawks Convention tickets go on sale today at 11am
Toews likely to miss the All-Star game (Myers)
Rogers on how the Hawks will press on without the Captain
Crow will get the start tonight. Q still believes in him. How about you? (Sun-Times)
Oh, the irony. Is Campoli heading back to Chicago? (CSN Chicago)
Whether or not you agree ( I don't entirely) or disagree (I don't entirely) with the message, Hall of Famer Ken Dryden's ideas about how to address concussions are at least worth a look (SI.com)
THN's Ken Campbell admires Tim Thomas' right to abstain from the Cup ceremony at the White House; The Boston Globe's Kevin Paul Dupont less so. The juxtaposition of the articles is interesting: The former describes Thomas' decision as an act of bravery and the latter cites it as an act of cowardice. Personally? I can't wait to hear Thomas discuss which Federalist Paper covers how the Founders felt about no-touch icing (I keed, I keed). You all did very well to play nice in the threads yesterday. It's relevant hockey news, so I have to post it, but if the standing Palomino has cauterized the discussion, perhaps more the better. Either way, let's continue to disagree without being disagreeable.
The real Ovechtrick? Ovie is suspended three games for charging incident
NHL.com's stats and recaps from last night's games:Isles 0, Leafs 3; Jets 1, Canes 2; Blues 1, Scum 3; B-Jackets 1, Preds 4; Sharks 1, Oilers 2 (SO); Sens 1, Kings 4
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If Thomas doesn't want to go, he shouldn't be forced to
However, I think he’s nuts. I could never turn down that opportunity, just because it’s quite possibly a once-in-a-lifetime thing. If I was in a player’s shoes, I’d force myself to just put the current political climate aside and enjoy the history of the White House and the Office of the POTUS.
by TKHO on Jan 24, 2012 7:28 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Clarification
When I mentioned “current political climate,” I meant it in a general sense. I did not mean to endorse or renounce any particular politician or party.
I couldn't agree more with this...
I mean he could have went and still made his statement, but he missed out on something most people can’t do. Just to be in parts of the White House that the regular tour doesn’t go to would be amazing.
folks...
see below.
It’s relevant hockey news, so I have to post it, but if the standing Palomino has cauterized the discussion, perhaps more the better
this got done yesterday and ended at just the right time (before a slide into unpleasantness)
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 8:44 AM CST up reply actions
I wonder if those same fans were peeved when Theo "the middle of my order was juiced" Epstein opted out of a visit to the White House in 2007?
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
who cares what they think?
these are the same fans who think their team is squeaky clean and that Miller got what was coming to him. Bah.
FREEDOM!
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Jan 24, 2012 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
it's an interesting concept, eh (freedom)?
Anyhow, I’m just happy the rest of the Bruin squad enjoyed their time and that they represented their club and the NHL. Could care less about TT’s stance. Comes off petty but he was granted that right by the club.
There isn't a whole lot more we can add to this discussion.
You either think he was right or wrong.
If anyone feels compelled to reply, please remember this ain’t the place for political discussion. I get that it’s hockey related, however, I’m asking that you please keep this policy in mind when posting lest the thread be closed and comments removed.
The ice is very thin.
Thomas didn't go.
it is because he is a secret nazi. Worse than hitler.
/godwin’d
Lighten up, Timmy
. . . and just enjoy the Stanley Cup. I think this shows he’s taking himself much too seriously.
by maxachium27 on Jan 24, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
The only thing I can add is a general observation
that Thomas is either unaware of, or is ignoring, the fact that in the US, the President serves as both Head of Government and Head of State. These ceremonial invitations to championship teams are conducted by the President as Head of State, which means he is recognizing their achievement in his capacity as a representative of the Nation and it’s citizens and not as a Government official.
For the same reason, you pay respect to the Office, regardless of what you think of the current occupant of that Office.
So while I respect his decision to abstain, as an exercise of free will by a free man, I think it’s a sign of disrespect that reflects much more poorly on Tim Thomas than anything else. And I would say exactly the same thing regardless of who holds the Office of President of the United States.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
by 334Rules on Jan 24, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
i found the
ken campbell article enlightening. after initial knee jerk reactions in my head about the situation, i see this as far less controversial than celebrities trying to use their 2 minutes at the oscars or something of that nature to hijack the event and espouse their political beliefs, whatever stance that might be. it makes sense to me that he revealed his reasoning on his facebook account (a social media network), in an attempt to let his fans know his reasons, both beginning and ending the topic for him and not going on espn or a radio show, etc. in an attempt to take advantage of the situation.
this simply boils down to personal convictions running against a team event where the political and sport converged. things like this have happened before (koufax and the world series, jewish runners declining the 36 olympics in berlin, jump to mind). i don’t think it necessarily needs to be seen as disrespectful, because his decline was not in a disrespectful manner, no matter who made the invitation and from where.
I find your analogy
to Koufax to be interesting. Are you an idiot or an anti-semite?
Mods?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing wrong with personal convictions
Or your post. And now we get an example of why political comments in a hockey blog get Palomino’d…
yet people aren't getting the gist
NO MORE POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!!
SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)
Cause those are the only two options?
What’s wrong with what he said? Simmmer down…
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for pete's sake PALAMINO
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
this a million times.
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Skags? You're up, bases loaded..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
didn't want to derail
but the campbell article was one of the morning links, and i thought it had a certain amount of insight.
you're OK..
it’s just the way this is headed is straight down the shitter…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
yours was fine imo,
i figured the response was going to drag this convo rapidly downhill though
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
This is why we can't have nice things
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
so, the Central...
seeing as the Beej couldn’t do us a favour last night (thanks, guys!) it puts a bit of extra meaning into tonights game. As Hack mentioned, there’s a very real possibility we’ll be heading into the Long March in Fourth.. does that make a difference realistically/psychologically? Your thoughts?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
I'd like to win the division
However, as long as the Hawks are playing well come playoff time, I don’t really care if they’re in 4th, 5th, or 6th place.
they made the point on CTA
that a lower seeding might be advantageous: playing the winner of a “Weaker” division in the first round rather than one of the Central powerhouses..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 7:52 AM CST up reply actions
While I'd certainly like to avoid Detroit and Vancouver in round 1
I’ll take a Hawks team playing well as a #8 seed over a Hawks team playing uninspired as a #1 seed.
amen
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 8:07 AM CST up reply actions
There is also the possibility of playing St. Louis in round 1
If we or they finished 4th and 5th. I couldn’t imagine that series. One of the reasons why I was looking forward to the new Realignment
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
I feel good about the Hawks chances in any 7 game series
with possibly the exception of SCUM. St. Louis is too undisciplined to go very far, IMO and that is not going to change. Nashville is Nashville. I believe our offense can outshine their defense over a long series (Rinne scares me, though). Nucks? Well, you know.
But SCUM have been chugging along and are still among the class of the NHL. Maybe it’s just been pounded into my brain over the past decade+, but they still worry me. I’m not sure what to think of the Sha-arks just yet. For whatever reason, they just don’t worry me too much.
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 8:59 AM CST up reply actions
Let's all hope Detroit
runs out of gas right now and Jimmy Howard realizes he is not that good.
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I for one would love for Detroit to face off with Vancouver...
have Jimmy blank your favorite team 4 straight times and then end up with a 2.5 gaa after getting swept by the Hawks.
God, it has been for a long time, hasn't it?
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
I should amend this by saying the one thing that does worry me about the blues
is that the douches will take liberties with our players and injuries ensue.
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 9:02 AM CST up reply actions
if Nemo plays well in the playoffs then anything is possible
he really shanked it last season, not that his team helped him out any.
Maybe Scum,
but Vancouver? No way. Bring ’em on.
by stanfordron on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Don't buy it
VAN and SJ are in the same ballpark as Scum, and better than the Preds or the twats from Missouri.
We like our people!
yeah, I think I more or less agree
to quote the cliche “There are NO easy games (in the playoffs)” .. that said, I wouldn’t put SJ quite there with SCUM.. and we’ve had (mostly) the measure of VAN in the first round (not that sport has a memory)
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 8:42 AM CST up reply actions
I'd like to have home ice...
at least in the first round. So no less that 4th in the conference concerns me. That 10-9-2 on road scares me.
chance to fix that this month, amirite?
koolaide/d
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
It will help if...
Sharp and Towes are back. Going on that trip without Towes scares me though.
eh while i'd love to be on top of the standings, i don't particularly care if we're not as long as we're in the post season and winning the cup!
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
and yes that is blind optimism
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
did anyone see Jimmy Howard last night..
the funniest part is Petrangelo looking around in a daze for what just hit him.. “Oh it was Jimmy!”
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
dang howard can't be tamed, lol
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
Best PD comment (and highest ranked)
The Central Division is an unholy creation that gives me nightmares
Yup. That about sums it up.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
good thing I never sleep, eh?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Does this mean
we get another day of people getting up on their soap boxes to condemn Tim Thomas? can’t wait.
We like our people!
see above.
BTW.. you got a personal email? I want to ask you something.. mine is on my profile
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
What Tim Thomas should have said
“The Founding Fathers never envisioned that grown men could play a game for a living and make millions of dollars. But what really would have ticked them off is hockey in Arizona.”
I will mock any person who makes millions and then says the system that let them make those millions is broken. The Bruins should thank Tim for distracting everyone from the fact the Bruins lead the league in suspension games.
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I will mock any person who makes millions and then says the system that let them make those millions is broken.
So basically every politician of all time from each party?
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
Zing!
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 9:08 AM CST up reply actions
Depends why they think it is broken.
A guy who makes millions playing hockey yet thinks the system is broken because he doesn’t get to keep more of it for himself . . . .
by stanfordron on Jan 24, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
God forbid someone be able to keep the money they earn.
This Thread is going the wrong way fast.
Of course,
because they earned it in a vacuum. They did not need streets so customers could attend the game so players could make money. They did not need police. They did not need courts to protect their intellectual property rights. They did not need passports or state departments. In fact, can you just imagine how wealthy all hockey professionals would be if there was no government at all? My God. They would rule the world.
by stanfordron on Jan 24, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
palamino please
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Tim Thomas is from a blue collar family
and he worked his ass off in a lot of podunk towns in order to get where he is – his parents sacrificed a lot for his career while he was growing up so his attitude is not surprising at all in that context.
Really? I would think it would be the exact opposite
The argument he made is generally said by people who are very opposed to government assistance. In fact, often times it is coupled with the statement that the government is too large because of things like unemployment insurance.
Palamino
palamino palamino palamino
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Can this end here and now please!!!
I have been avoiding SCH for last part of last night and all of today because I really have no desire to go over this here on a Hockey orientated thread. A couple days ago a thread opened to invite discourse in a subject, yesterday the horse got slayed, let’s move on, on this thread, if you want to discuss it more, please use the previous one and not drag the dead horse here!
It is not I do not mind discussing it, but when I come here it for a break from the real world not to be thrust back into its divisiveness.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 24, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Was this meant as irony?
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Not everyone was around yesterday to participate in that thread.
The discussion I’ve seen has been respectful and pertaining to hockey. I don’t think it’s right to tell people who, for whatever reason, were unable to discuss this yesterday or wish to discuss it more that they shouldn’t now because you don’t want to get involved in it.
If you don’t want to get involved, Z past it. It’s hockey related and hasn’t been combative or snarky (that I’ve seen), so I think people have the right to talk about it further if they choose.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
What does Palomino mean?
Subject has been Palomino’d a bunch of times. The mods have come in and asked people to stop.
Just wanted to know what subjects people were allowed to continue to talk about and which subjects people were required to actually stop talking about when the subject gets Palomino’d?
All I saw was a comment from the mods stopping the threads yesterday
as they started to veer from hockey. I haven’t seen any until Skags just now that said it couldn’t be discussed in this thread.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
I feel like it has run its course.
And now that several people are asking that we close it, it ought to be closed.
Nothing good is going to come from this.
Thanks, Katherine!
Sorry,
I was under the impression yesterday it was asked to be stopped by the Mods, was trying to give some support to that fact.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 24, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Certainly not a justification at all on my part
I’m in a bad mood today, and seeing that discussion lead the first comment, kinda really, well totally killed the idea of getting a distraction I was hoping for, it just did not help.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 24, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
This.
And who really gives a fuck about Tim Thomas and his opinion, or any of the people on this board and their opinions. You are not all that important people, any of you. No matter what you may think. Let’s get back to hockey and the weeks between now and May – that’s what is important. Not some semi sports celebrity’s idea of his overrated self worth.
as long as you agree that
no one here should give a flying fuck about your opinion, either. Correct?
can I further stipulate that
no one here should give a flying fuck about your opinion, either. Correct?
We like our people!
or your opinion, either. Correct?
or my opinion, either. Correct?
weeee this is fun. Don’t give any fucks about that, flying or otherwise.
Curator of Dark Side of the Five Hole
I like our guys, especially these guys.
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The rule of always implied
sarcasm and snark seems to have been forgotten by many.
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I like our guys, especially these guys.
Unapologetic apologist for hockey South of the Mason/Dixon
Is there a full moon? Is everyone on the same cycle?
Why is everyone so on edge today? I suggest everyone step back, take a deep breath, and just think about the many ways the Hawks can avenge that godawful loss the other night. And, oh yeah, get really hammered.
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
How exactly does one do that anyway?
Those airplane bathrooms are very small and no way I’m doing that while in a parachute.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
The likelihood of being, um, distracted
and forgetting to pull the chute is WAY too high in that scenario.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
I dunno..
“Flush”
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Meh,
most chutes, especially emergency ones have an automatic deploy function, once you’ve reached a certain altitude.
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I like our guys, especially these guys.
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still
two chutes getting tangled up together doesn’t sound like a fun exit.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
see, this is what this blog is for
debating defecation in an emergency situation at 30,000 feet…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, defecation?
I’m not sure I wanna know mm D
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...that was a flying *fuck* not a flying *shit*
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
He's Irish
OK, I better not go there…
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
by Badgerdano on Jan 24, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
whoops..
that’s what I get for not paying attention..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Irishaman, of Greek descent?
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
surely "German"
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
touche...
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right?!
this is why I thought you had to get distracted before you pull the chute, which was worrisome.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
And to MMD's point
I’m more likely to be… Yeah, OK, I better not go there either.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
well then I'm the numbnuts on this one
totally missed the context – and it wouldn’t be the first time…
btw what else kind of response should anyone expect after posting that kind of rant?
gee willikers Mr. Yardsale you bring up some good points I guess we’re all just numbnuts now we’ll all go away quietly you’re always right good sir.
And I am a numbnut as well, my opinion doesn't matter either about these political rants
I just want to get back to hockey – if I want to read the peoples’ political opinions I will head on over to CNN, or FOX, or any of that other shit.
Hey!!!!
There’s nothing wrong with hockey in AZ, my son’s gonna be starting Ice Hockey next fall.
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If Campoli is our big deadline acquisition, I'm going to be a little disappointed.
Isn’t the point to get a Top-4 dman and slide Leddy back onto the 3rd pair?
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
what do want to give up for a top 4 d man?
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 24, 2012 9:16 AM CST up reply actions
I just want someone that can kill penalities to get Leddy off
I dont think the Hawks need a top 4, but I do think they need to limit Leddys minutes and remove from the PK. I can’t remember if Campoli played in that situation
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
I give away certain prospects and high picks for this team to make a run this year.
I think either you think this team can do it this season or it can’t. If you do, adding a Top-4 dman is a necessity. Nobody is talking about trading away parts of the core, but we have the pieces to make something happen.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
realistically will a platter of prospects and a couple picks trump any other teams offer
of possible roster players? I mean the hawks arent the only ones looking for one of these top 4s
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 24, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
time to take a look
at the teams already planning for the future, then..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 9:22 AM CST up reply actions
I love how everyone just assumes the cost will be too high.
Yes, and the Hawks are also one of those teams looking. Stan has said he’s willing to part with prospects and picks. I have to believe a deal is out there somewhere. That’s what he pay him for, right?
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
im not saying the 'cost is too high'
just saying other teams might have the ability of giving up more, making the competition higher.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 24, 2012 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
I don't disagree.
Which is why I agree with MightyMike, find a team that is looking to rebuild. Not to many teams can compete with our prospect depth.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
Oduya from the Jets
is UFA at the end of the year. $3.5 million this year.
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Sad thing is the only names i've been reading on is
Hal Gill and Campoli. Not sure I really want either of those 2. I haven’t really watched much of the Habs this year.
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
Nucks and Hawks
have same problem. No defenseman available fits into the high paced system they run. Unless it’s Suter or Weber.
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funny,
over at Hockey Wilderness they’re talking about which players they’d like to unload (it seems that they’re giving up on this season too).. didn’t really see anyone that I’d want as a Hawk, though… Zanon maybe.. ?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
A few negative types have given up..
But for most of us, the squad is good enough to make the play-offs (when Bouchard and Koivu are fit). No one would miss Zidlicky or Zanon if they were traded…but the rest of the squad should be kept intact.
Right now to me at least
The most appealing package to other teams would probably be a prospect or two a pick and I would throw in Stalberg. I know its been talked about a little here, but has his value ever been higher and do we really think that he has the skill to do it on his own or is it more of a product of playing with top tier talent?
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by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
Why don't you throw in Leddy for good measure?
At this juncture, if the Hawks traded a prospect, a pick, and Stalberg, they better be getting back someone like Ryan Getzlaf because any other trade like that for a rental player would be insanely idiotic.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 24, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well if you are looking for someone to fill
either the 2nd line center or tighten up the back end you are going to have to give something up. Based off the list of expiring D contracts, there really isn’t anyone that jumps out as being obviously better than what we have, therefore we would probably need to find someone who’s contract isn’t expiring this season and look for someone with 2 or 3 years left on their current deal. I guess I didn’t know Stalberg was the second coming of Stan Mikita… let’s give him Ovechkin money instead
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The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
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by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
No one is saying
What you said in the last sentence, don’t be stupid
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 24, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
Really?
Thanks for that, it’s called a sarcastic statement and it was in response to being called insanely idiotic by someone who didn’t understand my post. My point was to call to light the thought of Stalberg and Leddy being players who wouldn’t be moved to improve the team in other places, and I just don’t see that. Leddy has a lot of upside yes, and his age makes him look even better, but if the right deal came across for him, I wouldn’t hesitate. Same with Stals. But then again… I’m just being stupid
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The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
This is childish
I called the idea of packaging Stalberg mid-season insanely idiotic, not you.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Jan 24, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
To me Stalberg's value has never been higher
nor do I think it will remain this high. The guy has speed and that is working great right now but I don’t think he has the all around skill to hang with the top 6. I think he is a product of his linemates right now and while his production has been welcomed and unexpected, I don’t feel like he is going to be a game changer. I would rather have him packaged with someone/thing and traded now than to keep him and lose him to FA or not resign him ala Campoli. Sorry if I jumped down your throat with my response but imd your response had it’s own dose of sarcasm.
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The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
I think it is fair to say that Stalberg benefits from his linemates
but he is benefiting from T+K in a completely separate manner than say… kopecky. His current play strikes me as one of those guys you really want to have alongside your stars, as opposed to a guy who you put alongside your stars to fill a hole. Kopecky is the latter of the two types.
Stalberg is more trade-able than leddy, but neither should be moved unless it is for a fairly substantial piece in return. Stalberg for a rental seems, to me, to be a lateral move.
by oregon_hawk on Jan 24, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
completely agree
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
But you can't have 12 core forwards.
You have guys like Stalberg because they have lower contracts but can still keep up with the core guys. You need contracts like his on a capped team. Also, at his pay and skill level, he should partly be a product of his linemates. Imo, that’s why you pay Kane and Toews what they’re paid – on top of being ridiculously talented, they are supposed to help make the not-as-talented guys better.
And there have been plenty of guys who haven’t been able to play with DDN, so I think it’s a credit to Stalberg that he has had some success there.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Stalberg leads "Cosri on" for two years in a row.
Hawks Corsi with Stalberg on the ice is actually higher than it is when Toews is on the ice. And that is for the last two years.
What does that mean? It means Stalberg is what a puck possession team is looking for as a “power forward” on a line with the Hawks top players.
Those pining for more grit on the Hawks top lines aren’t going to get it because the “grit” the Hawks are looking for is in “getting the puck.” So Stalberg types are worth more in the Hawks system to Brouwer types. And why that wasn’t a surprise when Stablerg was kept last year.
And I think that is why Brunette can’t stay on the top lines. Hawks want guys that “can go get the puck” to play with their core guys. I know Brunette is just a stop gap guy but he has been one of the problems with the Hawks. And Stalberg progressing has really helped negate Brunette failing to take a top 6 slot.
by DaleHalas on Jan 24, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Bah! Stats don't mean nothing
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
pssst
I emailed you a new sarcasm detector ;)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
I guess the double return sarcasm detector addressed to you hasn’t made it yet either.
Anyways… where was this thread going? Oh yes, Stalberg and his stats mean jack. Unless they actually do, right? I agree either way. (In all seriousness, he’s proving my earlier opinions of him wrong and I’m quite happy with that).
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 24, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
Ditto
I felt he would contribute, but he’s definitely outpaced my expectations.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
What's the rush to trade him?
It’s not like his production is going to completely fall off the map. He’s created enough of a sample size that if/when the Hawks decide to trade him, there will be a significant market for him. Besides, at 850k for one more year and restricted years still available, he has plenty of surplus value.
I just don’t see how his value from now until the end of the season is going to drop off the table unless he suffers a debilitating injury.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 24, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
Restricted years meaning he's an RFA after next season?
I think Stalberg’s a UFA after next season.
Not that I’ve memorized his contract details or anything….
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed
main point still remains, there would still be big interest in him, save for anything drastic happening. (ie injury)
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 24, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
And probably more likely
that the Hawks would try to re-sign him before trading him (if they decided to do so) in the off-season after the 2013 season. Waaaay too valuable per cap hit. No one even comes close.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Bryan Bickell?
I kid.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 24, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
If he played like he did last year
I would agree
Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?
by The Cup And Back Again on Jan 24, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
I almost liked it better
when he was less interesting to other teams. Gah, my favorite players always get traded.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
whaaa? what about Sharpie?
he’s not going anywhere, I thought he was one of your all – time faves.
haha, he is.
He’s the exception to the rule, thankfully! It happens to me in other sports I follow, too, so I feel like a jinx.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
maybe look at it this way
you’re still young (right?), but if you had lived through the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s with this team, the list of excellent players ridden out of town on rails would really break your heart. I mean, look at JR – guy lost it on air even after all those years had passed from his playing days on the Hawks. Watching Laarmer, Cheli, Belfour and so many others get to hoist the Cup with other teams was a bittersweet experience for many of us, believe me.
True, I really don't have it too bad.
I didn’t start following the Hawks until the last few years so I avoided losing the players I (would have) loved.
Still (relatively) young, too, just a tendency to overdramatize my plight. :)
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
The rush would be to fill the 2C spot or defensive
for a cup run this year, and again it’s not to say that I dislike Stals or think he is crap. It’s actually the opposite. He has been outstanding this year, better than what most of us would have thought, and for his price, its fantastic. But if he is an expendable piece, which I think he most certainly is, you have to at least think about the possibility if the right trade comes up. Again don’t know what that trade would be but what current Hawk would you rather see packaged that holds a value like that?
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Problem is anyone worth packaging for Stalberg isn't available
The Hawks are better off filling their holes via the rental player mode and going from there. In the off-season, if they want to package Stalberg for whatever, I think they’d find teams to be much more receptive.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
exactly
I think they ought to lock him up long term. He’s one of the fastest guys in the league and with the size… he’s a force. On pace to score 30 goals. He’s a keeper.
And the point of this whole thing...
And the point
of this whole thing
is that I think a kill is a kill is a kill
and killing a kid should be just as good as killing an adult.
LET GO BLACKHAWKS!
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Jan 24, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
So trade a guy who's shitting goal nuggets out of his ass
for another guy who might be able to do the same? Thereby creating a hole to fill a hole?
OK, there’s a lot wrong with this comment, but whatever.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
For “shitting goal nuggets”
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 24, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Private Pyle, you had best square your ass away and start shitting me Tiffany cufflinks or I will definitely fuck you up."
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Jan 24, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I love that movie
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Me too
It gets less good once boot camp is finished though. I hate to admit it, but often times I flick the channel after the first hour.
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 24, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
The first half is the best part, and not because of Modine.
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
I thought we were pretty solid on the wings
needed guys up the middle which is what I was thinking about when proposing this idea. Yeah, he is “shitting goal nuggets” now but for how long and if it can be done by someone else who also fills in the hole at 2C isn’t that a win-win? Obviously, most people don’t think this is viable or reasonable, everyone is entitled to a crazy comment now and then, my quota for the year has been filled.
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Aside from Stals
who has been able to fill in competently at wing on the top 6? (need 2 guys)
Brunette proved he wasn’t able to keep up very early.
Carcillo did for a short time. He gone.
Frolik plays his best defense while on offense.
If Hayes, Smith or Shaw are in your top 6…
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not to pile on you
but you’re just trading one hole for another. And since we have some interesting center prospects in the pipeline, I’d rather Stalberg stayed (plus, I like him :). I’d rather see a defensive forward for the 3rd line anyway.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
But the Hawks have defensive forwards don't they?
They need one that can contribute offensively IMO.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Bolland and Frolik, yes.
I feel they’re missing a winger for that line if it’s in fact going to be a shutdown line. Bolland’s improved play should help his line when Toews and Sharp are back, but Bickell, Brunette, and Hayes don’t seem to be the answer.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry
I just don’t think there is a deal out there that would be worth including Stalberg or Leddy.
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 24, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Stalberg's cap hit next year is also a reason not to trade
Yes his value is at an all time high, but isn’t he only hitting the cap for like $750K next year? Better to keep him for another year as a cheap top-6 guy and then decide what you want to do next year (IMO).
"Behold the pale horse. The man who sat on him was Death... and Hell followed with him."
And since when is Leddy untouchable?
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The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Trading away a guy like leddy
who is super young for a D-man, and has a ton of upside, for a rental, or a non-franchise player, is quite foolish.
by oregon_hawk on Jan 24, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
I never said trade him for a rental...
I never even said to trade Leddy, simply asking why it is similar to Stalberg and how my proposition for a pick, prospect and Stals is compared to Leddy? No where in any of my posts did I talk about trading any one for a rental. I have seen the list of rental players and no one interests me which is why I think they need to package more together to get some one who will actually fill the holes this team has.
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Well then who?
Last I checked, there weren’t any players out there that would suffice such a package. Nor are their any teams that are in the market to trade their good players with years under control. 95% of the players traded at the deadline are rentals which is why I presumed you were talking about a rental.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 24, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
I think
that if this happened it wouldn’t be something obvious, it would be a surprise to most fans. In all fairness, I don’t know every GM’s thoughts about who he might trade but you’re right in that all the names that have been discussed or brought up probably wouldn’t command this type of package in return but then again, I don’t really want anyone on that list. I am looking for Stan to make a move that isn’t seen from 100 miles away. Stan is way smarter than I when it comes to this, and judging by the responses to my idea, I don’t think he (or anyone) would really go for it.
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
way too good at his age to trade
yeah he might always be on the smallish side but it’s so hard to develop good D – Men and he’s already light – years ahead of most prospects.
To me, same could be said about Hjalmmersson
Young, and has his shortcomings, his physicality as of late, but he blocks shots and is just as good if not better than any rental d-man out there.Yet there has been talk here about trading him. Again, I agree and never brought up trading Leddy and don’t think he should be moved unless the perfect deal comes along but if it did (and I’m not saying I know what it is) I would trade him.
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
I disagree about HammerTime
while they can’t afford to trade him in – season, I’m looking at them to move him and his contract during the summer. He’s not worth what he’s making right now, even in the current inflated market for D – Men. Much more upside with Leddy than Hammer.
Bahaha
Surely this comment will nip this lunacy in the bud.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry my lunatic ideas
were taking up your precious internet space, your reaction’s to most people’s posts are part of the reason I stick to reading and not commenting here. Bring something up and get shamed into thinking you are mentally inferior and bat shit crazy for a hypothetical situation. You should probably change your signature to better represent how you actually treat and interact with other readers/commentors on this site.
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
So you guys are gonna leave TN19's comment above?
Other commenters called TN19 “childish”, told him he was being “stupid”, called his idea “insanely idiotic” and “quite foolish.”
I did none of those things, but somehow I get called out because the commenter doesn’t want to engage with those who are actually dogging him?
Yet I get a warning and TN19’s personally insulting comment stays? Seems a bit hypocritical.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
don't feel bad I got the same thing earlier
for some snarky comment that was meant as purely ironic but taken completely different. Quel surprise.
Really?
Go read my responses to those who called me childish and stupid. I responded to all of them and yours. If you think you are innocent in all this you have some serious blinders on. I tend to stay in the lurk status because this is what I tend to receive when I post. I have noticed this from you to me in the past as well as with other posters. Your posts sometimes have this entitled tone to them making others look/feel stupid in comparison. Maybe you should view this as an opportunity to grow as a commentor and realize that you aren’t bulletproof. Other people’s opinions and thoughts are just as important as the mighty CSN’s but then again your the one who got warned so you are still more important than everyone else.
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Oh puhleeaaase
Maybe it’s not me making certain posters look stupid.Some people just have certain talents! I refuse to selfishly take allll of the credit. Next thing ya know, you’ll be giving me credit for inventing the internetz.
And by the way, my comment wasn’t even directed at you! It was in jest because I figured El Duque’s response would generate a long drawn out thread about people getting their feelings hurt instead of actually ending the trade Stalberg idea. Thin skin lately?
And here we are. Doh! But please carry on. I’ll go get my violin.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
If that is the case then,
I apologize, I misinterpreted to whom your post was directed at. I try not to have thin skin, but when 10 different commentors start piling on it is difficult to not feel attacked and to defend your opinion. Especially when it was something as trivial as a potential trade package. However, we all know that Al Gore invented the internet. No need for the violin I prefer sad trombone. But trust me you do deserve some credit
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, I'm king of defensive commenting
So I know where you’re coming from. Just didn’t think I deserved the over-the-top call-out for such a throw away comment.
Everyone’s on the rag today here at SCH. You’d think that Toews was hurt or something.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Obviously that's the root
of my anger issues. Probably why I am also pining for a 2nd line center today.
I think your comment was the one that pushed me over the edge (ya think???) But I took my meds and am back to my normal subdued self now.
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 24, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
You know it's hard to catch everything on here
We do our best. Can’t everyone just treat everyone else with respect and try to act as adults on here? How about this? Everyone stop with the personal attacks of any kind.
SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)
Where's the fun in that? ;)
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You're such
a big mean poopie-head
Curator of Dark Side of the Five Hole
I like our guys, especially these guys.
Unapologetic apologist for hockey South of the Mason/Dixon
Just go pout in your corner :)
SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)
we can haz
a Pre-Game-thread plz?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Why?
We’re not done shitting all over this one.
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ha!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
it think
a little disappointed
may be in the running for understatement of the year..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 9:16 AM CST up reply actions
Stan's probably thinking
“No way Campoli could fuck up like that AGAIN, right? What are the odds?”
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Why are people still talking about Campoli?
If the Hawks are going to overpay for a rental then at least he should be able to play on the PK.
My thoughts
The only way the Hawks pick up Campoli is if they can get him for a late rounder or Lepisto – and still plan on bringing in another d-man. So basically as a depth guy.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not entirely convinced Campoli is any better than Lepisto
I’m still pissed that he gets no ice, particularly against “skating” opposition when it would probably suit* his game quite well.
- a general inference here since I can hardly recall his game from the previous two seasons in which I thought he was actually pretty decent depth guy that gave Phoenix a valuable 15 a game.
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 24, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
670 thescore hockey night in chicago event last night w/ Bolland...
I wish that the interview he did last night was recorded… but it was not. If the media got hold of some of the shit he said last night, Vancouver would be rioting right now (are they anyway?). Something about AV wearing a helmet next game on the bench after what he dropped in the media about Bolland. Name calling and such. Zawaski from the score is a tool though, in case that was being debated by a single goddamn person.
It was a really cool event, though. Hardly anyone showed – well maybe 15-20 Hawks fans total – and the accessibility is ridiculous. Get as many things signed as you want & BS with a Hawk player. Beats hours of lines at the convention I’d guess.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
Theory on Hubbard downtown.
Place was decent / high-end sports bar type place that is dressing itself up to try to be high-end.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
heh
I know exactly the type of place you mean
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
Say what you will, that place has fucking great wings. I live right down the street and eat dinner there often.
Prices arent horrible.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
The queso and chips were quite good too. Spicy.
I just follow zawaski on twitter and go if it’s near by and if the guest isn’t John Scott. He posts the day before and I think they are usually on Monday nights.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
by west_fulton on Jan 24, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
They've had Bolly more than a couple times this year.
just Bolly and Scott so far, I think.
For the record – Bolland does not accept free beers on the eve of a game.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
anything Bolland says now will be magnified beyond all reason
while he shouldn’t have said what he was quoted on earlier, their reaction spoke volumes about how much he looms in their craniums. If they had just ignored it you’d know that they were past it all – as it happens, not so much.
Toews to IR
Pirri up. Is there a minimum length of time on IR?
this is per the twits.
Shit, heres what i found for IR
In the event that a player is injured and a Club wishes to place him on the Injured Reserve List the Club must follow these procedures:
1.A club may place a player on the Injured Reserve List if such player is injured, disabled or ill and unable to perform his duties as a hockey player after having passed the Club’s initial physical examination in that season.
2.A player who has an injury that renders him physically unable to play for a minimum of seven days after that date of the injury can be placed on the Club’s Injured Reserve List. Once a player is placed on the list, the Club may replace said player on its NHL roster with another player. All determinations that a player has suffered an injury warranting injured reserve status must be made by the Club’s medical staff and in accordance with the Club’s medical standards.
3.A player placed on Injured Reserve is ineligible to compete in NHL games for a period of not less than seven days.
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
Well reading that it's not that bad
It’s 7 days, probably retroactive. So by the time the ASG is over, he should be eligible. I would assume they did this so they could get Pirri up who is playing pretty good in the Rock? This right?
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
does it save the cap hit?
don’t see anything there about the player’s salary coming off the cap.
by oregon_hawk on Jan 24, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
Here's everything you guys need to know about IR
Link. Go to pages 85-86.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
It's retroactive to last Sunday since that was their last game
So he’ll be eligible to come off on Sunday.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 24, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
I think Stan's throbbing brain is just doing two things
a.) getting another player up so that Q can continue to sit Bickell
b.) playing misdirection with the rest of the league as it regards to Toews’ injury
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
Not really in regards to misdirection
I’m actually surprised Pirri wasn’t called up sooner but maybe they wanted to see how Toews responded yesterday before they made their decision.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 24, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
I think they also wanted to save the money
You know how Stan always waits til the last day possible (typically gameday) to call up a youngun. Even though cap space isn’t an issue this year, he still does it.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
What does misdirection get him?
Seems like that puts him in a more difficult negotiating position for a forward.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
Usually it gets the linebackers to commit to a side of the field because you pull your guard
Wait, what was I talking about again?
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
If Pirri plays tonight and Bickell is in the press box again
it does not bode well for Bickell’s future with the team.
It would certainly make it plain, to me anyway, that Bickell is likely to be part of any package of players included in any trade Bowman might make.
And I find this a bit sad. I’ve always liked Bickell and thought he was a useful player in the right role (which on this team should probably be on the fourth line).
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
I think we're way past this point
To me, there is no doubt Bickell’s future on this team doesn’t include Bickell. I like him too, in many ways, but he just doesn’t seem to bring it night in/ night out despite given multiple chances. I think Q was much more patient with him than Lepisto, whom I still have no idea why he is scratched as often as he is.
The problem with Bickell...
While I will defend him against IMVHO the mindless cries that “he didn’t play to his size or get to the net” while skating on the 3rd line, the 4th line is a different animal. In that role, Bickell needed to run around like a chicken with its head cut off hitting everything in sight, especially because he was already in the doghouse. He didn’t make that role adjustment in the couple of games Q gave him there. So he sits.
And though I thought at the start of the season that Bickell would fall to the 4th line and do well there, now I’m not sure Bickell is that type of player, despite how gruesome he looks. He comes across as a mopey country boy. I’m not sure he has the psycho-killer instinct in him to play that role effectively. Would like to see him get another shot on the 3rd again though. Brunette and Hayes at the wings is surely not the answer there.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Checking line vs scoring line.
Hawks are NOT playing their third line in a checking role right now. Hawks are playing top line against top line. So the value of a Bickell or Frolik is at an all time low.
Not sure if that will continue. To be honest, I don’t see how it can. Hawks two way third line is what MAKES the Hawks go. When they can take the other teams top line, the Hawks are tough to play against.
And 72 and in particular Keith are SO MUCH more effective when the Hawks have a two way third line. I mean Keith is a Norris Candidate in that role and simply isn’t when not.
Top line against top line
Hawks employed this strategy for a good chunk of the ’09-10 season and Keith won the Norris that year.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 24, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
When Hossa and Bolland came back in 09/10
They played a lot of that Hybrid where those two took the other teams top line. I could deal with that.
It is just that Ladd and Versteeg (even when Madden centered) gave the Hawks some scoring punch. And that never really “wasted” 72 in a non two way role.
boy that's an understatement
Ladd and Versteeg could readily create their own offense when needed.
Is running around like a chicken with it's head cut off ever a good idea?
Even on the fourth line? Mayers has been the player most consistently used on our 4th line and he certainly doesn’t play that way, but is quite effective in his role nonetheless.
I guess I’m less inclined to think players have to fit traditional types in order to perform effectively. I also think that the 4th line roll falls a bit outside of the norm on this Hawks team because of the type of game Q likes them to play.
But that’s all beside the point. I actually thought Bickell seemed more comfortable and played quite well in the few games he was on the 4th line before finding his way to the press box again. He was sufficiently physical for what the Hawks scheme requires out of the 4th line and could be more dangerous offensively than a lot of fourth liners around the league. I was thinking that that role might enable him to gain some confidence back and be prepared to move back up to the third line if/when that was needed. But alas, Q does not have my patience and off to Siberia he was exiled.
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
at times I believe it is a good idea
while the Hawks don’t necessarily have to employ a pure “energy” line on the 4th, during a long season sometimes you need that kind of jump on your team.
exactly, some reason
I kept thinking LTIR where they miss I think a min of 10 GAMES not days.
Why Q, why?!
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It's a good move
To get another actual center on the ice. Pirri between Shaw and Brunette, with Frolik taking Bickell’s place on the 4th line would be suit me just fine.
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 24, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
Toews on IR
will also abate any of the shit that brews when players “skip” the all-star game. Total non-starter for the media as he, in fact, on IR.
You are next.
Ok not so bad. This could still be the one game he misses.
How’s Pirri been doing?
Have there been any info on the lines? I’m thinking top two lines will still be
25-36-88
81-16-65
And then Pirri centering the 3rd?
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Wasn't Pirri recently benched in Rockford?
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by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
from thethirdmanin
Since getting benched on January 14 with ten minutes to go in the 3rd period at San Antonio, Brandon Pirri has 5 points (3g+2a) in four games. It should be noted, Pirri and linemate Jeremy Morin were both benched as the IceHogs were protecting a 1-0 lead. Two minutes after their last shift, San Antonio tied the game and moments later took the lead. Morin and Pirri still did not see the ice again.
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
saw him live a few nights ago...
two goals including a beautiful one-timer. He’s smallish though. His defense might be an issue.
The guy who absolutely dominates at the A level is Olesz. I don’t think he came off the ice once. Felt like he played 60 minutes.
He got injured again down there (and had his own little slump going), didn't he? Glad to see he's come back strong.
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
he was out for a bit...
he was a monster the other night. Feel bad the guy couldn’t hack it with the Hawks.
ok yeah thought i remembered that
good for him, seriously. maybe if he played regularly he would have done that for us also, or maybe he is just better at playing at that level. idk but its nice that he’s found a spot on the Hogs and is playing really well there.
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
You know what's been kinda nice, you guys?
We haven’t had to complain about John Scott for, like, 3 weeks now. Let’s focus on the positives!
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 10:31 AM CST reply actions
ha! you're right!
(until tonight where it’s announced that he’s centering the top line)
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by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Absolutely!
I was just thinking the same thing the other night. I wonder how long that will last…
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
I was hoping no one would bring that up and jinx it
fuck my life
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
No no no
I call for them in the pregame thread! Quite different!! ;)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
what would Campoli's cap hit be for the rest of the season
I’m not saying it would be a great idea, just a point of information. Since they didn’t want to pay him what he and his agent though he’d be worth, he had to settle for a heck of a lot less than expected.
Click the part up top in this link that says "Daily Tracker"
http://capgeek.com/tracker/team.php?team=2
As of today, it would be $700K.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
well in that case he might be worth the risk
but who knows what the Org thinks about him, or whether he’d have the right attitude if he came back here. Then he could also be the target of the boo – birds after the first mistake in his own end ala Huet…ahh, forget it.
Three meatballs.
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Brandon Pirri and Andrew Shaw wear numbers 37 and 65, respectively. Why?
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Well...
I believe that like Kane, they wear the year they were born. I could be wrong though.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
if so, Odie's numbers
would be Roman Numerals rather than Arabic..
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by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
LOL. That issues angers me far more than it should.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Goaltender and football number!
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by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
maybe that would mean something to me if i gave a shit about football
and eh, times are changing.
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
I dislike these non-traditional hockey numbers.
Yes, I should probably go get some real problems.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
its only non-traditional for now. give it a few years!
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Booooooo!
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by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Young guys
Sticking with their assigned training camp numbers? That’s my only guess. Pirri wears 27 in Rockford, it’s open in Chicago so not sure why he doesn’t wear it.
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 24, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
That's Morin's number.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Got it
Doesn’t make sense to me that it would be “held” for Morin when he hasn’t been up all year, but whatever
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 24, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
he did come up last year actually
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
He's been up this year too.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
yes so did I
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
i just meant he came up in 2011, but it was for the 2011-2012 season
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
He's been up.
Pirri had 14 I think for a time last year, not sure why he can’t go back to it.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
It should be "held" in the rafters, IMO
Can’t stand him now but loved him way back when.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed. Electrifying players.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
Carcillo is awarded more games in a suspension because of 'his history' but Ovechkin isn't?
Isn’t this his third boarding-related suspension? At least his second after the Soupy incident in 2010.
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM CST reply actions
well after a certain period of time your record gets wiped clean I believe. So technically this was new but BS still took into account the past
just not as much as he would (or should) have.
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
There's two answers to this
1.) One is a star, the other is a player that would struggle to make most rosters. Draw your own conclusions.
2.) Ovechkin isn’t a repeat offender under the clauses in the new agreement. Carcillo is and has been suspended already this year for a questionable hit. Plus, Michalek got up. Gilbert and Jokinen didn’t. Injuries factor in.
I think Shanahan also gave Ovechkin leeway because Michalek targeted one of the Caps earlier in the game, yet there wasn’t enough there to suspend him (which is total bullshit).
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
You really think Carcillo would struggle to make most rosters?
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he might after this season
guy is seriously injured and didn’t really do all that much while healthy here, despite the earlier promising indications. He took some really stupid penalties at key points in games, and seemed like a liability at the end.
I agree with this
Also, I think Carcillo is a victim of his own reputation. While he did commit some dumbass penalties, he also got whistled for ticky-tack shit that many would have gotten away with. Like you said, he had become a liability.
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by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
he should've followed Rodman's MO with the Bulls
Jordan, Pippen and Jackson sat him down and said while they’d love to have him come over, he’d have to stop all that shit immediately or no dice. And for the most part he did, but he had a huge target on his back every game, and got penalized for so many idiotic love taps. But he kept his mouth shut and the team won.
Only thing is...
When a basketball player gets a foul, the other team just gets to shoot two free throws. When Carcillo gets a penalty, the other team has the man advantage for at least two minutes.
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by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Last season
Toews missed three games- the Hawks went 0-3.
Heading out with grim visage and furrowed brow this evening.
/managing expectations
We like our people!
It's hard to believe they will play worse tonight compared to Saturday.
Unless they are all looking forward to getting to Vegas for a long week off.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Setting aside my personal feelings on Sen. John Kerry
This is pretty amusing:
Senator John Kerry sported a broken nose and two black eyes at a White House event today honoring the Stanley Cup champs, the Boston Bruins. He suffered the injuries in a pickup hockey game. (REUTERS/Larry Downing)
Source
Let's Go Hawks!
Always thought it was cool he was a hockey player.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
This.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 24, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Not that I was planning to watch in the first place but...
The NHL All-Star Game has officially been Pro Bowl’d.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 11:51 AM CST reply actions
It means
The Pro Bowl has guys that decline invitations every year and we end up with like half the league being name a Pro Bowler. The NHL this year is having guys decline a lot, for various reasons, and we’re getting more All-Stars that wouldn’t traditionally attend and probably aren’t as good.
Ovechkin is basically pouting which I can’t agree with. Guys like Selanne that are choosing to miss are acceptable even if I would have liked to see him there one more time.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
How is he pouting?
(I haven’t heard.) I thought if he didn’t attend it would be because he was suspended and it would kind of be inappropriate.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Choosing to sit out because he doesn't want to be a distraction
Sounds like a load of crap to me. Ovechkin is pouting and that is a shame. Beginning to wonder about that one.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Meh, I don't care much about him.
He should pout more about the season he’s having than not going to the All Star game.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
He's allowed to go to the All Star Game even with the suspension, he's choosing not to go because (from PD)
“My heart is not there. I [got] suspended, so why I have to go there?” Ovechkin said. “I love the game; it’s great event. I’d love to be there, but I’m suspended. I don’t want to be a target. I feel I’m not deserving to be there right now. If I suspended, I have to be suspended. That’s why I give up my roster [spot].”
To be honest, I have a bigger problem with this:
I do not agree in any way with the suspension of Alex Ovechkin for 3 games. I support Alex Ovechkin. He is our bedrock player — our Captain; and he and his family know that we are always here to support him.
The decision has been made; and George McPhee will address the media today with our thoughts and concerns about the suspension.
assuming the GM does in fact make a statement about not agreeing with the suspension. He left his fucking feet. I understand not throwing your player under the bus and whatnot, but come on.
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I realize he's allowed to go.
His quote is basically the reason i thought he wouldn’t go – he’s suspended and it’s kind of odd/inappropriate to be an All Star while suspended. I just don’t really care all that much about him.
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
oh ok, comprehension fail then since that's not how i read your comment
i don’t care much for him but i think his reasons are bs, is all.
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Forgive me. But I have had enough of the “baby bullshit hypocrisy” that has gone on with this league and it fans crying ‘wolf’ everytime someone on their team gets hurt by someone on the opposition, yet nothing is mentioned when they get hurt via a fight.
Did he leave his feet? Sure. Have I seen it at least a hundred times this year and left unpunished? Yes. It was only because it was Ovechkin that he got suspended like Carcillo. If you ask me the Michalek hit on Hendricks was far more dangerous and suspendable.
If the NHL is that concerned about concussions then they should implement all athletes wear helmets with the caged facemasks for the rest of the season and beyond, or abolish fighting.
But they won’t, so they should stop acting that they are. It was hit and nobody got hurt and it’s about time that some of these guys protected themselves instead of Shanahan. Policing themselves wouldn’t be such a bad policy, but then again maybe I just an oldtimer that liked the game with the old Manson-Stevens scraps with the St.Patrick’s day Massacres in the old Chicago Stadium.
Back in the early 90’s the games had sizzle and spark, today they’re rather boring and uneventful.
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I think the only thing I agree with you on is that maybe (probably) you are an oldtimer
/just a damn kid
/getting off your lawn
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
but doesn't policing yourself
come with instigator penalties? Who does that really hurt?
SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)
in that game againstg us, was it Stoll who had two hits (bad hits, but I may be biased)
but when Mayers and someone else went to take care of it, we got the penalty twice! It sucks because as you say, the other team went on a PP, and Stoll (or whoever) was free to do what he wanted because he would get away with it and we could do absolutely nothing.
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
that's exactly what I was thinking of
I’m a firm believer in self policing, but the problem is that it normally hurts your team and not necessarily teach the guy who did it anything.
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I agree with McPhee
Once again… Michalek brained one of the Caps yet he’s going to play in his team’s next scheduled game. Lather me in marinara and cover me with Parmesan but I’m in the eye-for-an-eye school when it comes to this stuff.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks
for the Aliens Hudson reference. Made my day.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
To go with the theme of this thread ...
I suggest that Kopecky should centre the first line tonight over Jake Dowell.
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Crawford in goal
Sharp and Toews flying to Van with the team
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
Luckily for the 'Hawks tonight
They’ll just need four goals from this quartet to grab at least a point out of this evening to bail Crow out once again, unless he can steal us a point tonight. Forgive me if I’m not holding my breath on the latter part.
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maybe (hopefully) we won't need him to. We can win this
no point going into the game having already decided how its going to end, unless its with a win
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by justforkicks on Jan 24, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
If i were one of those rookies,
I’d be jumping off the walls to play tonight!
Pirri has been on fire in his last handful games @The Rock, plus I’m sure Shaw & Hayes are eager to continue playing with their most recent line-mates (Hossa & Brunette) for tonight’s tilt!
I won’t believe that the Hawks will not come out thirsting for retribution tonight. There is a lot at stake in tonight’s game, plus a whole lot of pride on the line.
It is time to reclaim the throne of THE Toughest Division in Hockey, boys & girls.
No time like the present. The future starts now!
LETS GO HAWKS!!!
LETS GO HAWKS!!!!!!
ps – had THIS stuck in my head for days now
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Wow...
You just got me insanely motivated to see how the boys from Rockford do tonight!
by PatricktheGreat88 on Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
it's a Disney Movie waiting to happen!
“The Mighty Ducks Boys From Rockford!”
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by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
So is the general consensus
That Crawford is in a sophomore slump, or giving us what’s to come? I’ve been holding off on throwing him under the bus, but my confidence in the guy is slipping
by PatricktheGreat88 on Jan 24, 2012 3:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions
they really have no choice at this point
if Q starts Emery more than Crow for the balance of the season, then his confidence level will be further marginalized. Emery’s been fine as a back – up, but I really don’t like the idea of him as a starter through the playoffs.
Is anybody liking the idea
Of either of our goalies in the playoffs?
by PatricktheGreat88 on Jan 24, 2012 3:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes
but most of them are not Blackhawk fans…
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
by Badgerdano on Jan 24, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I like the idea of our goalies being in the playoffs
mainly because it would mean the rest of the team were there too..
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by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I see what you did there.
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attempting to badgerdano
the Master…
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by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Haha... Well played kind sir.
And making the playoffs is good… Right?
by PatricktheGreat88 on Jan 24, 2012 4:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Doh!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 24, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't bank too heavily on the first possibility if...
…for no other reason than the fact that, except for maybe a half a season last year, he’s never put up better than middling stats throughout his career. I fear it’s looking more and more like last season was the exception.
Tonight would be a great time to start proving me wrong though.
by bluekoolaide on Jan 24, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m trying really hard not to be over critical, but he’s making it very difficult to be anything else.
by PatricktheGreat88 on Jan 24, 2012 3:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think the jury is still out
on if it is sophomore slump or other teams having a book which crawford will need to adapt to.
I think it is the second. Craw will be fine.
Just a wild shot in the dark
But does the organization still hate Vancouver enough to slip Schneider a offer sheet come off season?
by PatricktheGreat88 on Jan 24, 2012 3:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Jury's out on that kid I think
he’ll probably be asking for the moon based on a relatively small sample size. No thanks.
I have been having a really shitty day,
But a perfect cure would be
CHELSEA DAGGER AND JUNGLE DRUMS!!!
For anyone else having a fucked up day, in favor of this cure, please say Aye!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 24, 2012 3:30 PM CST reply actions
man, I'm about five minutes away
from quitting smoking (hopefully for good) and drinking (for a while).. last little soldier in that box.. so, my day is going to take a turn for the worse.. don’t be surprised if all comments ARE IN CAPS!! LATER!!
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by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
If you quit drinking
you wont have anything to blame attribute your insanity cleverness
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Heh!
tis true…. but one has to go with the other…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Good luck
But If I gave up smoking and drinking, i might actually jump out this window. I’m in desperate need for a beer and a smoke. Right now, i’ll settle for coffee and a smoke. The Hawks could help out this day witha big 2 points and not reading how the world is ending after every hawks loss. I really hate to head into the break with a week off on a shitty note
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
In all seriousness, good luck
I’ve been trying to quit for awhile, but it never quite works out. I always seem to find an excuse to have a smoke
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 24, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
and I think tonights game
may give me a few…
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by mightymike D on Jan 24, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
uh,
is fels aware that today’s CI is hosted for free on On the Forecheck?
I'm so tired of these acronyms
I keep confusing SOTU and SOPA, and then I think someone is saying Opa while their saganaki is on fire instead of SOPA .
by Katherine215 on Jan 24, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
SPORTS!
What a day in the world of sports, people. I have gotten pretty much nothing accomplished in the ole workspace in the last 5 hours.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 24, 2012 4:00 PM CST reply actions
In regards to Thomas
Its his loss. To say its not a political thing is simply not true. It doesn’t matter if he believes that both parties are responsible. It is an inherently conservative argument. Also, put out a press release or just don’t show up. A facebook announcement?
He got invited to the White House, its a tradition in sports and they were celebrating his team. I’d be a bit upset if I was his teammate. Obviously he shouldn’t be forced.
I felt the same way when Dan Hampton said it. I have no idea what they are trying to accomplish. Its not going to change a single opinion.
Two Points
1 – My “z” finger hurts
2 – When did fucks learn how to fly?
I wanted the Packers to win the Super Bowl, Megan!
Very recently I heard
Right after shits started be given out for free usually in pairs, or stopped being given out all together, one of the two.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 24, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
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