Morning Links - (1/25)
Blackhawks news and other hockey notables.
- Recaps. [nhl.com] [Tribune] [CSN] [ESPN] [Third Man In] [Cheer the Anthem] [Hockeenight] [MyFoxChicago]
- A goal and 17 out of 20 face-offs is pretty shiny. [Tribune]
- It's the All-Star break, thank goodness. Time to reload. [CSN]
- Friedman's 30 Thoughts. [CBC]
- At 80, McMurtry's still fighting violence in the NHL. [Globe]
- Here' a fascinating look at O-Zone starts among top scorers. [CBSSports]
- End coach interviews during games. [Puck the Media]
- The All-Hurt All-Star defensemen present a myriad of ailments for your entertainment. [The Score]
- The roof caves in at a rink in Slovakia. [PD]
- DGB's Optimist's Guide to non-playoff teams. [Down Goes Brown]
- John Kerry sports two black eyes at the White House after a "friendly game of hockey." [The Score]
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I'd be happy never hearing the name Tim Thomas again.
Exhausting. Not as exhausting as the last two Hawks games though.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
He's getting the reaction and attention he anticipated, desired, and catalyzed.
Fuck ’em.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Utilizing the modern banking system it is likely that he receives an automatic payment.
It works like this: you link your bank account to that of your employer. On certain established dates, the bank used by his employer will transfer funds (likely American currency) to Montador’s bank, making it accessible to him upon official completion of wire transfer.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
badgerdano/d!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
ah!
one recently returned from Active Duty overseas.. the other missing for a while… I see it!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Defense?
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
What's your point here?
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
I do not understand why Montador was a pursued by Stan.
I could see a one year contract, but ,in my meat ball opinion, he is very erratic and sloppy for being a veteran.
Ver™
There's one Thomas piece worth linking
Hatchet job. No one quite does a push out piece like the Boston Globe. Just ask Theo Epstein, Manny Ramirez, Bill Parcells, Drew Bledsoe, Antoine Walker (that one was deserved), Danny Ainge, Terry Francona… the list is endless.
Would love to find out which anonymous team source decided to sharpen their toothbrush and shank Thomas in the back with it.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 10:42 AM CST reply actions
The author's name is awesome
Fluto Shinzawa
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
I like Friedman a lot
but this sentence is just too much -
“But Neely, Chiarelli and head coach Claude Julien must be burning inside, wondering if this will damage a good shot at a Stanley Cup repeat.”
This is my last word on this subject, but for goodness sake give me a farking break already. “Must be wondering inside?” This tempest in a teapot is now possibly putting their entire season at risk? Like anyone on the team really gives a flying shit about any of this? Jeebus, what a drama queen.
I can just see the inane commentary to follow on VS next BOS game
“hey Edzo, I’m hearing a lot of UNREST on the Bruin’s bench between shifts, it’s unbelievable. Think it has anythnig to do with Tim Thomas and his actions regarding the WH visit?” Derrrr….
No shit.
I knew this was going to be bad when Twitter became an orgy of outrage when the story broke. It’s gotten progressively worse since. Really? The Bruins are at risk of losing a playoff series because Tim Thomas didn’t go to the White House. Complete horseshit.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Media loves this shit
Hey, how can we twist out a new fucking story. Give me a break
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
This is Boston we're talking about
They currently have a team that didn’t make the playoffs and is responsible for one of the worst (best, in my point of view) collapses in sports history. The culprits? Fried chicken and beer.
Chicago fans are superstitious and we expect to lose. But Boston makes us look like the fucking Yankees. Sully, Murph and Grady are just looking for scapegoats. This is as acceptable as anything they’ve used in the past.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
A scapegoat for what!
The Bruins are a fucking juggernaut!
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Preemptive scapegoating
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 25, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Should we start discussing who we should scapegoat after we get swept by STL in the first round?
So many possibilities! Crow? Hjammer? Leddy? Kaner? Kitchen?
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
We should trane Kane for Thomas
OH DAMMIT! They forgot da hot peppahs on my beef sammich again!
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
I heard Hjammer once muttered something about his taxes being too high last year during a visit to H&R Block
TRADE THAT GREDDY ASSHOLE!
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
i think its pretty obviously the the 1A and 1B are Crow and Kaner (and the order is interchangeable)
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Don't forget Bickell and Olesz
I’m sure we can also fit Huet in there too.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Ahhhh fuck it...
BLAME CANADA!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 25, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Boycott Terrance & Phillip!
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
hey, fuck you, buddy!
(in the voice of the Canadian Ambassador)
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
best.song.ever.
and now it’s in my head, where it will remain for days..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
I found this on blue ray in the 5.00 bargain bin
I throw it in any time I need a good laugh. The songs alone are worth it.
SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)
my copy is now
beyond repair.. a direct result of it being one of my “Come home drunk, throw on fun movie” choices.. (see also Team America, Ghostbusters and Blues Brothers)
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
you're a Boner Biting Bastard Uncle Fucka....
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
're an uncle fucker I must say
You fucked your uncle yesterday! A hah hah hah hah!
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
suckmaballs!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
I'm gonna put a v chip in all your brains
bzzzzzzzz…….shocking isn’t it
SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)
you wish..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
AAAAA!! BiitAAAAA!!!!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Judging by her Cartman profile pic.
I’m guessing she’s a big fan of sadistic shit ;p
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
I'm as shocked about this statement
as Cartman looks in the pic.
What can I say…..Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is one of my favorite movies. I like the sick humor.
SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)
Kinda need the sick humor to thrive
in a place like this ;p
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
...
?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
for some reason I had one of the function keys pressed
when I hit apostrophe the world exploded.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
understand
that’s how most of my posts happen..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Bill Wirtz!
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
#ItShouldHaveBeenBoynton
by VerStig on Jan 25, 2012 11:18 AM CST via Android app up reply actions 2 recs
If we could re-acquire Buff, Ladd, Eager, Burish, and 'steeger, we'd be golden.
The problem is that we don’t have a shoot-out goaltender and Kane is a selfish, lazy fuck.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
So were the Red Sox on August 29th.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Basically what I'm saying here is
Fuck Murph, fuck Sully, fuck John Henry and fuck Pink Hat Nation as a whole motherfuckin’ crew. Worst fans ever.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Fuck Boston sports in general.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I approve this message.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
In which case I am rooting for the Finnish back-up and the ghost of Eddie Shore.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
Gross hockey injury
Matt Hendricks had his ear sewn back together.
/awaits CNS photoshop
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 11:14 AM CST reply actions
This happened to me in high school.
My sister nearly passed out when she got to the hospital and saw it.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Years ago
I was an MP in Germany- Gi got his ear ripped off (70%) in a bar fight- took him to the Air Force hospital in Wiesbaden. Guy was a drunken butt nugget. Airman in the ER sewed his ear back on to his head- AND TO THE GURNEY!!! Said you gonna act human? i’ll cut ya loose. True story!!
If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
by Timothy Fisher on Jan 26, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
Ask and ye shall receive (sometimes)
I’d say that was an unfortunate bounce.
badumching!

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 25, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I always liked Tuukka Rask better anyway.
He’s a real ’merican.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 11:30 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Well the wife and I finally did it last night
…we muted the Foley/Edzo clown act and watched some of the game in silence. And…yep, it was a better experience.
So I expect that it won’t be the last time. Which is sad because Foley used to be the best in the business, but there it is.
I think it was the 5-minute-long gushfest over Marian Hossa giving some guy a signed jersey for a charity auction [and golly what an amazing and original thing that is, never heard of a pro athlete doing that before!], WHILE A CLOSE GAME AGAINST A DIVISIONAL RIVAL was being played and ignored by the two jackasses who are supposed to be describing said action, that finally put us over the edge.
by Paul the Fossil on Jan 25, 2012 11:49 AM CST reply actions
To be honest, there wasn't much to talk about watching that game
next time i advise you to put on the radio and sync it to the tv by pausing and playing until they are together.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
I always thought the radio was ahead of the TV thats why I could never do that?
If not, I have been waiting for a reason to try this
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
i thought i got it to work using gamecenter and the online radio
but maybe i was just delusional
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
If you have a radio, an aux cable, and a computer there is a nice guide online to delay the
the radio feed to match up with the tv feed. I was going to do this until I realized I don’t have an old fashioned AM radio. At that point my laziness took over and I didn’t buy one. The program you would use is called “RadioDelay”
Noticed that last night as well,
It really is getting obnoxious. I understand Hoss did a nice thing but really, how hard is it for him to go to a staff member and say “Hey, get me a jersey to sign.” Then once it arrived all he had to do was write his name. It’s not like he donated $10,000 or a dinner with him and his wife. I understand it’s the thought behind it and he didn’t have to do it, but Foley definitely didn’t need to gush about it for 5 minutes.
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 25, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
You dare speak negative words while using the name of Hossa in the same paragraph?
For shame.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Take caution in your tone TazerNation19...
when talking so close to “Hossbollah” I’m a fair guy, but this fucking loosing streak is making me absolutely crazy.
Time for a little R & R!
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Jan 25, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
/Jack'd
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 25, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
I see what you did there.
You’re damn right, I did!
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
I know this may be shocking
but the players actually do have to pay for the jerseys they donate. A guy I play hockey with is Devon Setoguchi’s cousin and when Minny was in town he was telling us that jerseys and tickets (for friends and family) cost him around $35k last year. Peanuts relative to what he makes but there is a substantial cost.
I’ve never heard of a player complaining about it though. They know the fans and kids make them rich men so the little things are worth it.
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 25, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
it IS shocking
Someone actually wants Seto’s jersey? (kidding, kidding)
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
I know!
We were out with him for dinner and I jokingly asked if he could get me a signed Versteeg Hawks jersey instead of one of his (they’re both Lethbridge guys).
He responded by saying that Chris brought back more jersey’s than he had friends after they won the cup and he’d be shocked if there weren’t a few dozen lying in his mom’s basement! Ha!
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 25, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
Did not know that
Once again proving Boss Hoss can do know wrong. I take back the remarks above and only can hope for forgiveness from not only Hossa but from all of you for my tactless post regarding the effort of one Mr. I am Marian Hossa and you’re not.
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 25, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
I've essentially done the same thing
the volume is now just low enough that I can’t hear it (being a deaf old man) but still loud enough for the girls to hear Edzo teach them things about active sticks.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
whoa, do you really want them
learning about active sticks from Edzo?
by Katherine215 on Jan 25, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
Katherine, Katherine, Katherine…
Actually, everyone at home is sick of hearing Edzo and his tips, not just me. I may have to get one of the brainiacs to do that radio/PC/TV synch magic at home.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
:)
I’m leaning towards the syncing too lately.
by Katherine215 on Jan 25, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
Normally I'm pretty grounded when it comes to trade talks
However if I’ve Google has translated the Francophone paper up in Montreal correctly, the Habs are actually shopping PK Subban.
Pick anyone on our roster that makes less than $4M, some picks and go for it. Dude is under team control for at least 2 more years. East to West is probably what Montreal would prefer. Puck moving defenceman with a laser rocket for a shot? To play 2nd pairing minutes? This gets the JMH stamp of approval*.
Dial up the Francophones and brush up on your French, Stan. This is a big fish.
- - no cash value… or other kind of value
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 PM CST reply actions
also a serial diver and dirty player
who honestly has not been playing well at all this year, do we really want TWO very young and developing and mistake prone defensemen backstopping us? (him and leddy)
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
I would
PK’s good and he has a PP rocket.
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 25, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
in my opinion the last thing this team needs is a d-man who is better at offense than defense
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't you read M7's comment??
His PK is good – and apparently he was blessed at birth (although I’m not sure what that has to do with the conversation).
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 25, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
lol! took me a second to get that
but get it I did.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
i assumed PK was just penalty kill? its the second part that took me a while.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, CNS has a way with words (well done)
Anyway… to clarify:
His Penalty Kill is good (about 2.5 per game on the top unit in the league. Quick feet, strong clearing shot.
His Power Play rocket (as in shot) is very strong and must be accounted for.
Unfortunately, I can’t confirm or deny how low he’s hanging despite CNS’ statement
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 25, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
try a different aftershave..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Subban would aid immensely in the puck possession game the Hawks are purported to have
Puck possession can make your defence look a lot more complete than it actually is (case in point: the cup year). I would subscribe to the theory that our defensemen are actually better now then in 09/10.
Now, a lot of the puck possession is predicated on your forwards but good puck moving D man will actually have the puck on their stick longer than a forward will over the course of a game (factoring in minutes it’s amplified). I don’t see how having another guy who can provide more of that can be seen as a detriment. He would help the powerplay (his shot has to be covered) and for a younger guy (who’s still figuring out his place in the league) he has a lot of snarl in front of his own net. With all the rebounds and tap-in’s we’re conceding I think having a snarly guy with good hands in front of your own net would be an upgrade.
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 25, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Perhaps, his game does have upside and hes young
but does he bring what this team needs now or in a few years? Its a gamble. What would you trade for him?
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Subban would be a top 3 on this team immediately.
And that’s being a fan of Seabs. If you watch any of the Habs games, you see that the kid is very quick and tough too. We had this debate on this site week’s ago about his availability, and we were told definitively that they would never trade him. A few of our top Quebec top prospects would be a perfect offering… Danault, etc.
a few prospects for PK subban?
dunno about that.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not sure what it would take to wrestle him from the Habs
I’m not even going to pretend either. It always seems like I’m woefully incorrect in my guesses. I would think a first rounder and prospect(s)though.
You are next.
ok, here's a start
Stan, Voici une GRANDE poisson..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
non, Stan..pas de cette poisson..
c’est un Blowfish..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
All this French is making my head poisoned...
You are next.
by M7 on Jan 25, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
How would Perry have looked last night instead of 88?
John Jaeckel poses the question…..
Should 88’s Days Be Numbered?
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/John-Jaeckel/Should-88s-Days-Be-Numbered/128/41626
And so, I reopen the old pesky can of worms . . .
Is it time, or will it soon be time, for the Blackhawks to consider (sacrilege of sacrileges) trading Patrick Kane?
To those of you who dismiss the thought as craziness, you’d be surprised at the emails I’m getting.
Nothing saying that the Hawks are remotely entertaining the idea— after all, Kane is one of the cornerstones of Hawk marketing— but calm, rational points of view from longtime fans and people around the hockey world who are simply wondering—as I’ve been— if Kane and the Hawks would not benefit at some point from #88 putting on a different sweater.
Everyone please set aside their irrational emotions about Kane— good or bad.
His role in Hawk marketing should not matter one iota. Marketing does not win championships.
And I’m not arguing that they should deal Kane. I’ll present both sides of the argument. I am asking all of you, could it make some sense at some point, most likely in the offseason?
Again, don’t put words in my mouth: I am not saying they should deal him. I’m not saying they should— or will—deal him now. I am raising the question and discussing the pros and cons.
Let’s look at the facts.
First, I’m going to puncture the notion some are still holding on to, that this year’s Hawks’ team is drastically better than last year’s. It’s not. It was, for a while, much healthier and fresher than last year’s. But that’s changed, and now the team is starting to sink fast in the standings.
Sure, you can point to injuries, but the Hawks basically had no injuries while racing out to a thin Western Conference lead. As soon as they started getting them in December, they started playing .500 hockey.
Kane is presently the highest paid healthy forward on the Blackhawks. He is not playing like it.
That honor goes to Marian Hossa and a 2011 5th round draft pick named Andrew Shaw. Last night, Marcus Kruger and Dave Bolland were more effective up and down the ice than Kane was. When we last saw Kane against the Predators, he was circling center ice— looking to cherry pick— leaving his teammates to kill off a penalty, essentially 3 on 5. Don’t believe me, ask Pat Foley, who pointed it out.
I am also hearing—rumor mind you, take it as such— that Kane’s attitude is not great; that he is not happy with shuttling from wing to center, and also that some players in the dressing room might not be terribly happy with him.
Again, and honestly, vague rumor.
But the fact remains, after being moved back to wing with one of the best centers in the game, Kane hasn’t exactly ripped it up this year.
Sure, there were other goats last night.
But let’s also be clear on this: the shopping list that needs to be checked off to make this team a Cup contender (not just this year—which is starting to look more and more like a longshot) grows longer by the day.
The Hawks desperately need someone (a couple of someones) who can finish checks, maybe a second line center, a second pairing defenseman, maybe a #1 goalie. And unless they change the basic paradigm of their roster, they can’t do it— they have nothing outside their "core" that has significant value in trade.
They have a lot of cap commitment tied up in Kane, Hossa, Jonathan Toews, Patrick Sharp, Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook. Over half their cap. That commitment means the remaining $30 million needs to be spent incredibly judiciously on 16-17 players— and you must get maximum value from your superstars.
Kane and Toews are the team’s two highest paid players. For the second straight season, Kane is probably not playing up to his cap hit. Not when you compare him to a number of similarly compensated players on teams the Hawks are in contention with: Pavel Datsyuk and the Sedins, not to mention Toews and Hossa and Sharp.
Bear in mind, with the exception of Toews, all these players have had a lot more time to develop than Kane has.
But warts and all, he has significant value in a trade. He’s a marquee player and an offensive force (in the right circumstances). And go figure, no one out there is lining up to take Bryan Bickell or Michal Frolik off the Hawks’ hands.
Kane would bring a lot back in trade, which so many seem to forget when this topic comes up.
He brings back more than Sharp or Keith, who some, I’m sure will suggest dealing instead of "PK." And he certainly brings back more than Bolland or Nik Hjalmarsson, the other bodies some always want to throw under the bus.
This is the problem that so many Hawk fans, especially those with less experience following hockey and this organization have— many Hawk fans will find it hard to believe the Hawks could improve themselves by dealing Kane. And thus the organization might also hesitate on dealing Kane, even when it could improve the team, because a lot of fans (especially the newer, "One Goal" true believing fans) will revolt.
But they easily could improve the team.
I heard a rumor earlier this season that the Hawks talked to Columbus about Rick Nash. The Jackets asked for Kane. The conversation ended.
But hold on a minute. Nash is an elite power winger who few NHL defensemen can handle one on one. Swap him out for Corey Perry.
Swap him out for Kane and the Hawks are immediately more physical at the very least, without losing a lot of creativity and scoring (if at all). A lot of of newer Hawk fans will simply associate Nash with a bad Columbus team. "He’s not as good as Kaner!" But he is and has been a force on a terrible team.
Now, I am not saying the Hawks should deal Kane for Nash. But they conceivably could. And depending on all the parameters of the deal, it could be a net improvement for the Hawks.
What about New Jersey for Zach Parise (not necessarily straight up, but the basis of a deal)? Or to Kane’s native Buffalo?
Then some will say that Kane has a no-trade clause.
All a no trade clause does it make it harder to deal a player— not impossible. All the player has to do is waive. If the player isn’t happy, if his agent feels the other team offers a better situation, the player gets moved.
Now, maybe it’s not fair or practical to single Kane out. He is scoring more than Detroit’s Henrik Zetterberg and San Jose’s Patrick Marleau (by comparison), although the argument can be made Zetterberg is a much more effective three-zone player.
But the reason to even have this discussion is as plain as the nose on your face, or as a buddy emailed me this AM, the 1000 pound gorilla in the room: the Hawks have nothing else to trade to fix their roster. And they do have an abundance of "premier" forwards— significantly more than most teams— of which Kane is the east effective, this season at least.
Again, more of the other side of the coin, if the Hawks deal Kane, they subtract from their organization a premier offensive talent, who has room to mature and grow into a really great player. There is always a risk/reward trade-off with younger players.
As great as Hossa is today, he will not be this good forever. Nor will Sharp.
At some point, a 30 year old Kane could be a huge factor in continuing the Hawks’ return to greatness. But that, also, can not be considered guaranteed.
So, there it is. A question to be considered.
Have fun with this one.
I didn't realize so much fuckin stupid could be jammed into one article.
That guy should have his right to say the word ‘hockey’ rescinded.
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Oh boy, you did it. You went ahead and took John Jaeckel seriously.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
I'm still trying to figure out if I can stop the bleeding in my eyes
and also why I actually continued to read it.
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
wait, is all that text Jaeckel's full article?
Isn’t that against SOPA or SOTU or SOPEL?
by Katherine215 on Jan 25, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
I see what you did there.
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Had to do something silly with it, right?
(s/t to Cliff, who I kind of stole that from)
by Katherine215 on Jan 25, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
And how irrational is it...
to consider what the lineup would look like with a Nash or Perry instead of Kane.
He is covering both sides of the argument.
Yet, the SCH ZITgeist immediately attacks!
Has anyone actually watched Kane lately. He had one brief series of brilliant passes last night and spent the rest of the game in floating.
Considering his paycheck plus the “A”. Shouldn’t we expect him to step up (like Sam indicated) at a time like this?
Yeah. He's had a bad stretch.
Promoting the trade of maybe the most dynamic playmaker in hockey, all of 23 years old, he of the Stanley Cup-winning goal, is a rational approach to team problems.
Or fuckin stupid.
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
What surprises me
Is that this argue is more heated this year than last. The Blackhawks are doing a million times better. This Kane trade bullshit is born from apathy and severe lack of knowledge.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
lack of knowledge?
Anyone can see he isn’t playing well right now. That doesn’t take too much knowledge. People don’t want to wait for him to come out of the slump. They want instant gratification. Trade him for someone better (like that is going to work well).
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Wasn't that the point?
Hell, I’ve got a massive lack of knowledge and even I know he’ll be fine…
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by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
I read that as lack of hockey knowledge
It doesn’t take too much knowledge to see he is in a slump.
SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)
I think derlemke is referring to the trade Kane prompts
as a severe lack of knowledge. Not his current and definitely temporary slump.
not implying you weren't
Just was saying that I don’t think the trade Kane talk is from a lack of knowledge. I just think it’s from people who can’t accept that the players may not perform up to their expectations 24/7 and want management to do something to fix this problem immediately instead of just giving him time to get out of his funk.
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well, just for arguments sake
you could say they can’t accept it because they are not knowledgeable about the players, the sport, expectations, etc.
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by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
because they still don't know or understand about how what their asking for can't just happen with a snap of their fingers
ah well, i’m just having some fun, just saying this whole thing could be pretty circular. And I’m the last person to talk about being knowledgeable about all facets of hockey.
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by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
Ok
Maybe impatient is a better word, but I wasn’t calling calling anybody stupid or saying that I’m an expert.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
I wasn't implying that either
Damn this internet thing is hard :(
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we know, dude.
slight crossed wires is all..
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by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
Irrational to consider a Nash or Perry
instead of Kane last night.
Considering his salary and the “A” he wears. Shouldn’t he be expected to step up now?
He had one brilliant series of passes last night and spent the rest of the game floating.
Floating?
Are we back to the ‘Kane is lazy’ thing?
(I’m sorry for this Stacy)
That’s a stupid fuckin statement.
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Back to the Kane is lazy thing?
Did we ever leave it?
He is playing that way this year. It is a fact.
Hoping he would come around. Saw a flash after his goal Friday night and thought these 2 games would be the opportunity he needed. Great athletes step up at moments like these…. and not when Toews is forcing you to.
Ryan Kessler is having a horrendous season
How come the Canucks don’t want to trade him?
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Who is this Kessler you speak of?
Does he play with or against Carello?
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My "s" is sticky
Usse your imagination asss to why.
Sssshit. There is goes again.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
By the way
Kesler won’t get traded because he isn’t lazy like Kane. He plays defense. :P
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Unpossible!
He’s American! They’re all lazy!
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
I think they both got traded
to the Coytoes
by VerStig on Jan 25, 2012 1:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Kane has not and does not wear the 'A', genius.
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
Well he did wear it one year
not long but it was in 2008 when Savard rotated them
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
No need to name call...
thought he had it last night.
What do they do in hockey when the “C” and an “A” are on IR? Does someone have it temporarily assigned?
Hossa wore it last night
Along with Seabrook.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
This says a lot
about your extensive hockey knowledge and actual attention paid during a game
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 25, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
If the C is down
you get another A. So we had Keith, Seabs and Hossa all wearing an A.
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by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
You know who was really good last night?
Pekka Rinne.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
He hit a bad patch. We all hit bad patches, don't we?
Why, you never hit a bad patch?
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by thepuckstopshere31 on Jan 25, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Uh....
What A?
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even with a slump kane has more points then those two guys as well. just saying
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by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
no one is untouchable...
Perry, Nash and Parise would be something to consider. I still think Kane isn’t playing all that bad-obviously he’s a marked man on the ice-hard to find room when a another player is shadowing you.
He’s still one of the best stickhandlers in the league, and sees the entire ice better than anyone on the Hawks. kane still has a lot of upside and is as dangerous as any player in the league. Besides, Kaner would never pass any of those teams Drug and alcohol tests.-(Sorry, I just couldn’t resist.)
However, please don’t mention Kane and Shaws name again in the same article. (And I like Shaw)
Kane has scored some big goals for the Indian Head, expect a lot more. he’s one of those players that make you hold your breath
...he’s one of those players that make you hold your breath.
How true. As down of a year as he’s had so far, every time he has the puck on his stick in the offensive zone I edge up on my seat a little and fully expect him to score or set up a score with some ridiculous pass. And I’m still a little surprised every time it doesn’t happen.
As disappointed as I am in the season he’s having so far, and as good as players like Nash, Parise and Perry are, it’s way too early in Kane’s career to consider giving up on him and moving him.
This is the one thing in that article that made perfect sense:
The Jackets asked for Kane. The conversation ended.
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
And let me just say...
When I say he’s having a down year I mean by his standards. For most other players it’d be a good year.
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
Allow me to FJM this. It's one of my hobbies for bad columnists.
Everyone please set aside their irrational emotions about Kane— good or bad.
Do I have to take off my shoes and submit to a cavity search too?
His role in Hawk marketing should not matter one iota. Marketing does not win championships.
It shouldn’t? The NHL is the 4th most popular sport in North America, it struggles for eyeballs and like it or not, there’s a bottom line to be adhered to. Sports are a business. Marketing doesn’t win championships but extremely talented 22 year old hockey players under team control for a reasonable cap hit through 2016 certainly assist in the matter.
First, I’m going to puncture the notion some are still holding on to, that this year’s Hawks’ team is drastically better than last year’s.
Have you seen Fernando Pisani play hockey, Mr. Jaeckel? How about Nick Boynton? Have you even heard of Evan Brophey? Qualify drastically all you want, this is a better hockey team and a most rested one than the one that took the ice last year.
But that’s changed, and now the team is starting to sink fast in the standings.
Right. Tied for 4th most points in the league heading into the All-Star Break. Let me stock up on canned goods and ammunition to prepare for the riots. Wonder if there’s a Groupon for that…
As soon as they started getting them in December, they started playing .500 hockey.
Kane is presently the highest paid healthy forward on the Blackhawks. He is not playing like it.
This sample size is about as small as your… nevermind. It’s small though.
Andrew Shaw
See above. Sizes, sample.
When we last saw Kane against the Predators, he was circling center ice— looking to cherry pick— leaving his teammates to kill off a penalty, essentially 3 on 5. Don’t believe me, ask Pat Foley, who pointed it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RivdXXzir0
I’ll break this into two comments so it’s not a novel.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Good lord, that last comment is fucking insane.
WE NEEDED A FUCKING GOAL! GET A BRAIN MORAN!
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by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
He did say it….but not in the way Johnny Jackass seems to think.
Foley didn’t say it in a derogatory manner…he was pointing out the Hawks were looking to get it down the ice to Kane as soon as possible. Kane was doing exactly what Q asked him to do and its fucking moronic to suggest otherwise.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Thank You
There were some other comments about the broadcast last night and was curious if this was another gaffe on his part.
Foley is innocent in this instance.
I literally can’t believe Jaeckel doesn’t realize this. Why else would Kane even be on the ice for a PK. That might be the worst sentence of his writing career.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, he's made a career out of this!?!??
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
I have no idea. But if true, he is one hell of a scam artist.
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by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
bold words
That might be the worst sentence of his writing career.
but almost definitely true… what a Weapons Grade Tool that man is..
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by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
It wasn't criticism.
He was merely pointing out what was happening on the ice. Kane wasn’t there to kill the penalty. He was there to score a shorthanded goal.
I’d like all the people losing thier minds about Kane to comprehend that for a minute. Of all the players Q could have put on the ice to score a late shorthanded goal that we needed to tie the game, he picked Kaner.
Yup
And if people really have that short a memory, as I recall, Kane floating in the neutral zone on the PK not only happened in Game 6, but was also pointed out by the broadcasting team.
by VerStig on Jan 25, 2012 1:04 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Yes, which led to Edzo's idiotic comment during the replay
“Look at Patrick Kane, he has no desire”
I remember that!
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by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
I've always wondered about this.
If Kane was choosing to “cherry pick” on his own, I would expect Q to give him an earful about it and for him to stop (lets remember, Q actually has benched him before). The fact that he hasn’t, in last night’s game and in others, indicate to me that he was given that direction.
Fifthfeather said it best, I can’t wait for everyone and their mother trying to be his psychiatrist.
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by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
The mere attachment of the word "cherry picker" to Kane
Makes me giggle and roll my eyes all at once. Seriously? Cherry picker? If only all cherry pickers had that much skill and would set up their linemates for awesome goals.
seriously. but he gets blamed for not scoring himself and also for others not scoring
on his set ups. I want him to pick it up as much as anyone else, but its not as dramatic as its made out to be.
its also interesting to me that the whole span of time that Sharp wasn’t doing well there were a ton of comments about how all he did was float and wait for Kane to pass to him. And then he picked it up and it was forgotten. We forgive some players certain things (a slow start to the season) and forgive other players absolutely nothing (slump in middle of the season). newsflash, points are points whenever they happen.
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by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
From the sounds of some people
It’s like Kane’s just standing around and not doing anything with the puck even when he has it. Yes, we all know he hasn’t been on the scoresheet as often as we’d like, but he’s creating chances and they’re bound to go in eventually.
The whole Sharp thing kind of annoyed me a little, but whatever. I can’t for Kane to snap out of it and everyone will shut up about the slump and look stupid for suggesting him getting traded at all.
well he'll pick it up and people will start talking about how
it was the fear of being traded that got him going. I’m telling you, dude just can’t win.
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by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
It was definitely Kane's fault
that Shaw shanked on his beautiful feed last night
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 25, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Kane's black magic obviously got to him
Because Kane definitely doesn’t want to see Shaw get more goals than him. The video of him praising the rookies was all a conspiracy.
meh, the puck was all sorts of wobbly, think it was on its edge to
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
yes because of kane's pass
/sarcasm
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by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
I feel like I should FanPost an FJMing
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
The best website of all time
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by HjammerTime on Jan 25, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
That was very well done.
The comment on this year’s team vs last year’s… I felt the same. Jaeckel a little too negative there.
Jaekel a little too stupid here.
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
Continued FJMing
I am also hearing—rumor mind you, take it as such— that Kane’s attitude is not great; that he is not happy with shuttling from wing to center, and also that some players in the dressing room might not be terribly happy with him.
Again, and honestly, vague rumor.
I heard from Tommy’s sister’s baby’s hair stylist’s dog walker that Kim Johnsson is, in fact, Batman.
Oh look! A shopping list! YAY!
The Hawks desperately need someone (a couple of someones) who can finish checks
HIT SOMEBODY
maybe a second line center
Know any good ones that are available? We’re all ears.
a second pairing defenseman
We sure do. Let’s trade a top 3 forward for one!
maybe a #1 goalie
I’m not sure I want one since they all seem to be right-wing pinko commies right now.
They have a lot of cap commitment tied up in Kane, Hossa, Jonathan Toews, Patrick Sharp, Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook. Over half their cap.
Let’s see here… yup, he’s good, he’s really good, he might be the best active player in the leage right now, he’s one of 4 guys with 20 goals and 20 assists, he won a Norris two years ago and has been playing great and my GOODNESS does that last one have FABULOUS hair.
Kane and Toews are the team’s two highest paid players. For the second straight season, Kane is probably not playing up to his cap hit. Not when you compare him to a number of similarly compensated players on teams the Hawks are in contention with: Pavel Datsyuk and the Sedins, not to mention Toews and Hossa and Sharp.
Remind me when those other fellas you listed signed their contracts and what the cap ceiling was then.
Kane would bring a lot back in trade, which so many seem to forget when this topic comes up.
Obviously you’re a quantity over quality man when last call is announced, sir.
CONT’d.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
How are Paul Stastny, Bobby Ryan and Anze Kopitar performing in terms of their cap hit?
Good lord, talking about Kane is like discussing college football. It brings out all the crazies.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
This.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Derogatory names for right wingers are facists or Nazi's
The lefties are the pinko commies.
Agreed on all other points.
What's the point then?
I am also hearing—rumor mind you, take it as such— that Kane’s attitude is not great; that he is not happy with shuttling from wing to center, and also that some players in the dressing room might not be terribly happy with him.
Again, and honestly, vague rumor.
Why would he even bother stating this if it’s a completely unsubstantiated “vague rumor”? Don’t make me write another Fan Post.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
write another fanpost...
DO IT!!!
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by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
i didn't want to be the one to say it but now that you did
yes, DO IT!!! i will live in that post.
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by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
Buy high sell low!
Jesus most sports fans are idiots. (Not a shot at you)
The Hawks are 3 points out of first place. This team isn’t perfect but you don’t have a fire sale or trade one of your best players when you’re three points out of first place! People wouldn’t be happy if the Hawks were 48-2 if it was a 2 game losing streak in the last week.
If your getting an equivalent player in return...
Yes, as long as you feel that new player will improve your team.
Would this team look better with Cory Perry or Rick Nash instead of Kane?
What if you could get Cam Fowler and Perry for Kane and a prospect or pick?
And what about when both Fowler and Perry are due a new contract in a year?
What happens then while Kane still has another three years left on his deal?
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 25, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with Orlando Hernandez here (IF that's your real name...)
Kane’s cap hit in about 3 years is going to look really small. Hell, in two years it will.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
The only player I'd trade Patrick Kane for at this point in his career
is Steven Stamkos. Age, skill level, and cap hit are really only surpassed by that Toews guy and we already have him on our team.
Only problem with this is
Stamkos makes Kane look like Bob Gainey defensively (there’s an old timey reference for all you young’uns out there) .
For all of Stamkos’s skill as a goal scorer I’ll take Kanes more complete package. (That didn’t come out the way I intended it!) (Ooops, neither did that!)
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
No. Movement. Clause.
And no, this isn’t the same situation as Brian Campbell.
This is Hack in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.
Cam Fowler and Nick Leddy in the same lineup?
You’ll need to have Seabs and Keith playing two minutes of each PK. Both may end up all stars in the future, but they’re liabilities in their own end right now.
FJM part 3
He brings back more than Sharp or Keith, who some, I’m sure will suggest dealing instead of “PK.”
Oh my. MY APOLOGIES! Clearly you’re on a first and last initial basis with Mr. Kane. I wave my white flag and submit to your thoughts on this trade.
This is the problem that so many Hawk fans, especially those with less experience following hockey and this organization have— many Hawk fans will find it hard to believe the Hawks could improve themselves by dealing Kane. And thus the organization might also hesitate on dealing Kane, even when it could improve the team, because a lot of fans (especially the newer, “One Goal” true believing fans) will revolt.
AHA! We’ve found your purpose! Those damned bandwagon fans! Their money isn’t as valuable as everyone else’s! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
/shakes fist at sky
But they easily could improve the team.
I see it says sportswriter on your business card. Fancy that. Does it say NHL General Manager on the back? Or is that just the phone number to your local pizza joint?
I heard a rumor earlier this season that the Hawks talked to Columbus about Rick Nash. The Jackets asked for Kane. The conversation ended.
But hold on a minute. Nash is an elite power winger who few NHL defensemen can handle one on one. Swap him out for Corey Perry.
You seem to hear a lot of rumors? Do you write the Dear Abby columns on the weekend?
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
I'm going to keep going because this is too much fun
Swap him out for Kane and the Hawks are immediately more physical at the very least, without losing a lot of creativity and scoring (if at all). A lot of of newer Hawk fans will simply associate Nash with a bad Columbus team. “He’s not as good as Kaner!” But he is and has been a force on a terrible team.
I watched this thing two years ago… what was is called… a bunch of people, internat- OH! I REMEMBER! The Olympics! Anyways, did you know they play hockey there too? I had no idea! Anyways, I saw that shitty player you mentioned from the uh, Columbus Blue Dazzlers or whatever they’re called. I know, I can’t remember the teams. I’m new to all of this. My team didn’t exist until 2006 so bear with me. ANYWAYS, that guy you mentioned, the shitty player from Ohio State… well, he was really good! He played with our amazing player Jonathan Foot, er, Toews, whatever… he was surprisingly good when paired with actual NHL players. SO WEIRD.
Doesn’t he make like eleventy mizillion dollars though?
Then some will say that Kane has a no-trade clause.
What’s that?
/twirls hair
//snaps gum
All a no trade clause does it make it harder to deal a player— not impossible. All the player has to do is waive
GROUNDBREAKING
He is scoring more than Detroit’s Henrik Zetterberg and San Jose’s Patrick Marleau (by comparison), although the argument can be made Zetterberg is a much more effective three-zone player.
Those guys suck. Trade ’em.
But the reason to even have this discussion is as plain as the nose on your face, or as a buddy emailed me this AM, the 1000 pound gorilla in the room: the Hawks have nothing else to trade to fix their roster.
Well, geez whiz… it’s awfully hard to play 1 on 18. No wonder we suck!
As great as Hossa is today, he will not be this good forever.
/points at ground
Here is the line
/points 4 feet in front of line
Here’s where you crossed it
/hits John Jaeckel in the face with a STOP sign
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
he said what about hossa
hossa is going to be a hall of famer one day, i truly believe that.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
He has to get to 500.
He’s underrated as fuck. But 500 and a Stanley Cup (or 4) should do the trick.
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Given the immortal nature of Hossa's existence, that statement is factually inaccurate.
Hossa will, in fact, be ‘this good’ forever.
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by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
get this into a fanpost please
just so I can cheer myself up after a GDT like last night!
Ten.Fucking.Stars!
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by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
as you request...
weirdo…
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by DesertHawk on Jan 25, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
brilliant!
you may have hit badgerdano Event Horizon on this one!
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by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
all your responses need to be rec'd a million times
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by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
I'm so glad this guy is such a complete and total idiot
because your responses made me laugh out loud. Thank you!!
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
JesusMarianHossa
You have done your namesake proud today. Well done sir, well done
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
oh, yeah, I forgot
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"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
flec right thar...
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Observations
1. Kane has devolved into a pedestrian NHL right wing. He’s followed up a very mediocre 2010-11 season with a downright bad 2011-12 campaign. But hey, nobody wants to talk about it because he was predestined “the franchise,” and besides the league’s best player in Toews can’t possibly do all those commercials as just a single. It’s no longer a slump people. Examine his shot, assists and goal totals across opponents and home / away split. And by line pairing. It’s sobering.
2. Leddy needs to be demoted to 3rd pairing. He doesn’t yet have the consistent chops to be a 2nd defensive pairing. He just doesn’t.
3. Montador was a mistake by Stan. He’s awful. Whatever he may do once in awhile on the powerpoint is irrlevant given what his primary role is here to be.
4. There is full-fledged screaming need for a top 4 defenseman. Surely Bowman understands that and is working the phones.
5. Let Toews heal properly, even if it means backsliding some in the Western Conference standings. To mess with such a critical piece would be terribly short-sighted.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
'Pedestrian NHL right wing'?
For fucking real?
I’m going to go put my head in the fucking oven.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
A spurt of Vik Stalberg / Jack Skille crazy skating once in awhile does not constitute greatness
I’m not going to argue with the meatballs. Peel back the onion of Patrick Kane’s performance the last year…it is the most sobering of sobering tales. Other than a couple week spurt when he was a novelty act at center that the league eventually figured out.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
You are the meatball
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Jan 25, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
Ah, I see.
We’re now pining for Jack Skille’s return.
Honestly, your statement is the most meatball-laden piece of inedible trash I have heard on Kane yet… and I’ve been keeping track. You set the standard.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
He had TWO overtime goals in the playoffs!
Lazy Kane only has that one…
The B in BLou
must stand for Badger. (However, even I am not pining for Skilz)
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
see, this is the only thing about BLou
that engages my brain.. is it “Bee-Lou” or “Blou (Blue)”?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
I always just assumed BLou was a Canucks fan
masquerading on SCH. BLou = Bobby Lu = Roberto Luongo?
Maybe not, but based on his posts I always thought he was trying to get a rise out of us.
You are next.
Hey, Jack Skille scored a short-handed goal during one game this year for the Panthers
This has no relevance, I just continue to be amazed by Jack Skille, SHG
yeah something does not compute there.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
because pedestrian nhl wingers have 41 points while in the midst of a tremendous slump
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
That's it, trade for a bunch more...
pedestrian NHL wingers!
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Jan 25, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Won't it be really hard for them to keep up
if they’re in street shoes?
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
they'll just put yakety sax on loop in the UC
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
That image just made me literally laugh out loud.
Getting lots of strange looks right now.
(Keep looking people, but I know funny when I read it!)
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
With Kane doing as much drinking as he does
Is anything related to him sobering?
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Jan 25, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't know that Montador had Powerpoint skills.
But I’m encouraged by his Excel formatting. Dude’s got skills.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's the thing
We only see what’s happening on the ice. The front office productivity has exploded since he was signed.
don't be "Assinine" :p
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
A mediocre 10-11 season?
Every player in the league would kill to have a mediocre PPG season.
No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource
Are you just copying and pasting your campaign from last nights GDT?
If so, please stop. It made the GDT threads unbearable. I don’t want today fucked as well.
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 25, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought I had read
that drivel someplace else.
No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource
I sure have missed silly posts
from BLou at another site. Entertaining to see them here.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jan 25, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
does he post at yours too?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
who let all the trolls out?
This is getting to be all kinds of silliness.
by Waylon on Jan 25, 2012 5:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
I know..
it’s like a GDT came to life…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
Here you go

GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
by ElvisVF101 on Jan 25, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Anyone have a tissue?
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 25, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
Ya know,
I soon as I posted that, I though “Fuck! These dirty assholes are gonna think I’m referring to something else”.
I meant it in sentimental context, not seminal.
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 25, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone remembers their first time
(except for Canucks fans, I’ll spare the others)
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 25, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
I couldn't resist
Seminal? That like semi-annual?
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
Hey! I'm married!
What do you think?
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 25, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
win.
thanks, man…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
ah that's the stuff
thanks dude
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
The 'trade Kane' thing has reached its epic, ridiculous zenith.
If you find yourself in the camp that believes it has logical reasons for trading Patrick Kane, do yourself and those of us in hockeyland a giant favor: put away the sweater you bought after the Hawks brought home Lord Stanley and gave you your first taste of hockey and please go back to watching the NBA.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 1:10 PM CST reply actions
the beauty of all this,10th
is that time-honored chicago tradition of pointing out every flaw a player has or (more accurately) is meatheadedly perceived to have, take the position that he sucks and has to be traded, and then make a straight-faced trade proposal that will bring back a superstar in his place. Let’s assume all the drivel that gets tossed around about Kane is actually true (that his attitude sucks, that he’s regressing—at age 23, mind you, that he’s become a mediocre, one-dimensional player). If that’s the case, why the fuck would any team agree to acquire Kane at the cost of one of its own superstars??? “Oh, he’s terrible. We should trade him and get Corey Perry or Rick Nash. Those guys are awesome.” If Kane is valued enough to be either a straight up swap or the centerpiece of a trade that would net an NHL superstar in return, shouldn’t that tell you something? Fucking sports radio duncery at its finest.
by Code Name Duchess on Jan 25, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was thinking the same thing most of the day
Yes Kane sucks and we pay him too much, therefore we should trade him for someone elses superstar who makes the same money. GM’s line up for those kinds of deals all the time
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
why must you bring logic into this?!
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know
I guess I missed the ‘FREAK OUT’ pills that a good chunk of people have recently gotten. Good lord, are we in last place yet?
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
SPOILER ALERT!!
that’s next week…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
And the week after
The Hawks will be move to the AHL due to a lack of a competitive team
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
Uncle Dale
is an Outlier on this…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
He is the one man line
but he does have the cap floor to deal with.
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
well you prob just brought the convo full circle back to him
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
AHHHHHHHH! Netminders, my favorite topic...
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Jan 25, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
Don't worry
I’m e-mailing John Jaeckel to figure out how we can trade for Carey Price.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
While you're at it
ask him what it would take to get Belfour back in the Indian Head
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 25, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Done!
Can I borrow 50 bucks? Someone?
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 25, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
here you go

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
emery + crow + kane for
SUBBAN AND PRICE!
Huet gets called to play backup, DK gets put down to the second line to teach him a lesson and andrew shaw gets the C because he is a real leader.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Well, damn him, for stringing us along
He’s certainly not doing anything to put us at ease. But on the other hand, just when more of us are getting ready to throw him overboard, he goes out and has a pretty not too too terrible game.
I want clarity dammit!
Hey! I take penumbrage at that!
Quiet you
Just go to the store and get us some rubber gloves, a hose, a couple hefty bags and a rotary saw. QUICKLY! There’s not a lot of time!
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
random goaltending knowledge of the day
one of the more controversial aspects in modern goaltending equipment is the thigh rise of the goal pads. the thigh rise is the area above the knee rolls that extend upwards to protect the goaltenders thighs between the pads and his pants. a relatively modern picture shows where we were at not to long ago:

note the pad face that is above the knee rolls. juxtapose this with pads currently used in the nhl:

with the heavy reliance of modern goaltenders on the butterfly save, goaltenders began to request larger and larger thigh rises, +1 (inch), +2, +3 and even a whopping +4. the advantages of a giant thighrise are obvious: 5 hole coverage in the butterfly. to combat the ballooning height of goal pads, the league passed one of its more confusing rules on goal pads:
“The leg guards worn by goalkeepers shall not exceed eleven inches (11’’) in extreme width when on the leg of the player.Each goalkeeper must wear pads that are anatomically proportional and size specific based on the individual physical characteristics of that goalkeeper. The League’s Hockey Operations Department will have the complete discretion to determine the maximum height of each goalkeeper’s pads based on measurements obtained by the League’s Hockey Operations Department, which will include the floor to center of knee and center of knee to pelvis measurements. Each goalkeeper will be given a Limiting Distance Size based on these measurements. The Limiting Distance Size will be the sum of the floor to knee and 55% of the knee to pelvis measurements plus a four inch (4") allowance for the height of the skate. The Limiting Distance Size is a vertical measurement from the playing surface and will be measured with the Limiting Distance Gauge. Any pads deemed too large for a goalkeeper will be considered illegal equipment for that goalkeeper, regardless of whether or not they would have fallen within previous equipment maximums. "
i like to juxtapose this with classic goaltending equipment, take a look at billy smith here. he don’t need no stinking thigh rises:

by Raditzzzz on Jan 25, 2012 1:45 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
No,
but the players on the other team better be wearing cups when standing in front of him
Wow, what a difference
Wardrums, if you were at the game last night
Did you happen to see Phil Russell signing autographs? Guy looks like a beatnik poet these days.
No, I watched the game at a friends.
It is amazing to see how some of these oldtimers look. did he have a beret and a Brahms sweat shirt on?
Beret
Goatee, trendy glasses. Always a bit awkward on what to say to these guys. I’m not big on autographs, but when I walked by and saw it was him, I had to at least get in line and shake his hand. I wish he would’ve suited up last night and beat the living shit out of someone. That guy had no fear.
heh! "Beat" the living shit out of someone..
..“hey, cat, I think Ginsberg is way more hep than Cassady”
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
thanks for this!
Another interesting insight.. and the change in pads is crazy in such a short space of time (although considering what he’s covering with the tops of them in the second picture I’m not sure I wouldn’t be demanding them too!).. and that rule makes about as much sense as anything else the league does..
Suggestion: can you do these in the Fanposts as well as in the threads? It’s be nice to have them as “easy access” rather than having to wade past BLou to get here.. (but keep doing them in the threads too, of course!)
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
hmmm
not a bad idea. i never go into the fanpost section, but i’ll give it a thought. maybe i’ll get motivated and put my previous posts in there as well.
I, for one, would be grateful if you did!
as a member of the ‘Goalie Guild’ (Hurling/Gaelic Football 401) I appreciate reading about the methodology behind Hockey goaltending
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
this is great.
I too would love some regular fanposts with this info!
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
Great post
It’s really amazing how the equipment has evolved over the past 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years…

Including the mask.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
by Badgerdano on Jan 25, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yet.. that jersey..
soooo..familiar?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
There's is so much crazy with the Kane talk
And anyone who thinks he doesn’t give a flying rat’s ass about the game should go watch his post-game interviews. He’s in a slump. A bad one. I’m sure everyone asking and reminding him about it will make him pull out, because you know, it’s that easy.
At this point, I won’t say I’m certain, but it looks like he’s lost some mobility with his wrist surgery (just like he showed in one of those articles, with the stiffness) and doesn’t know how to compensate. Once he gets used to it, works around it, he’ll be lighting the lamps like no tomorrow. He says everything’s fine, but it’s impossible for him to regain perfect control right after that kind of wrist injury, and it’s not like he’ll come out and say “I can’t shoot with the same accuracy because of the surgery” and everyone will just say he’s making excuses anyways.
Both seasons that are Kane’s so-called “atrocious” have both come when Kane suffered a pretty significant injury. Give the guy some time to get back to full form before saying he’s lost what made him so valuable on the team in the first place. For a guy that came back from leg injury and still be a PPG and to have 41 points now in 50 games after recovering from wrist surgery and being shifted from wing to center back to wing again with different linemates, I can’t say I have that many complaints.
by ~big_T on Jan 25, 2012 1:52 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
I don't mind talking about the slump because hey its real
but some of the things being said are completely nuts.
And yeah agree with you on everything.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
flec for you, mate
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
Good point.
But I still can’t help wonder why he lets it impact his skating and his back checking.
Maybe he just responded in 10 to his teammates telling him to pick it up. Which many of them clearly did…. Seems like Toews is the only one who does it now.
what inside scoop do you have that tells you what his teammates did or did not say to him
And please don’t say John Jaeckel
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
and just one more thing
what makes you think, or anyone think, that Q wouldn’t chew him out during the game (on the bench), bench him period, or call him out after the game if he felt it necessary? He’s done it before, this season and in the past, and he will do it again. This whole Kane responds to his teammates calling him out is silly.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
I won't make excuses for his lack of defense
But I do think he’s babied. No one expects him to play defensively. They just want him to go out and score a bunch of goals. Him being thrown in primarily in the offensive zone shows that. Granted, you can argue it’s because that’s what he does best, but forcing him into situations where he plays a more defensive role will help him get more of that defensive awareness. Hell, I’d even throw him on the PK in practise maybe just to get his mindset into it (but please not in games). On the occasions where he does backcheck though, he does a damn good job, so I think it just needs time
As for that last point of yours, Toews will tell himself that he’s not good enough, repeatedly in the mirror before breakfast, lunch, supper, and bed so that he can be better the next day. Him telling Kane he’s not good enough doesn’t mean he really thinks Kane sucks and isn’t working hard. That aside, I really would like to know where you got the idea that his teammates would tell him off for not producing more and that’s the reason why he “responded” in ‘10. In jest, maybe, but seriously speaking, I somewhat doubt that. Kane’s a competitive guy. If you think he likes to lose or suck, then obviously we must not be watching the same player play.
yes, this to the 2nd part especially
he seems like a really competitive player. with his teammates (hence screaming matches with toews) and with himself (hence yelling at himself during the game). while i actually do think telling him he can’t do something fires him up more, the idea that he needs his teammates in any season to essentially tell him what to do, is absurd.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think the slump is so bad
But it is the worst of his career so far, which is to say he’s been pretty damn consistent his whole career up to now.
It’s just harder for an offensive player to break out of a slump, because offense is hard. It’s like a slumping DH in baseball.
When Toews slumps (and he has), he can focus on his defense until the offensive game comes around, and still be a major contributor.
This doesn’t work for Kane. When his offense suffers, he’s just not as valuable to the team.
Slumps are mind-fucks. Players will reach for any cure under the sun, but there’s no textbook solution. Ever wonder why so many athletes are superstitious?
The kid is obviously pressing right now- that may be his biggest problem. I thought his goal the other night might break the spell but, heaven forfend, he’s gone a whole two games since without a point. So maybe the week off and the ASG carnival will help him snap out of it. Or maybe he should bury half an onion face down in the back yard. Who knows?
Kane’s not going anywhere. If he doesn’t find his game, it hurts the Hawks chances, and mebbe the Hawks don’t seriously contend for the Cup this year. C’est la vie.
We like our people!
We like our people!
by cliffkoroll on Jan 25, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
with the slight addition that, to my feeble eye test, Kane seems to be trying slightly too hard to be the “Playmaker” when he would be better served by being the “selfish little bastard” that he is when in FU mode.. which may be a confidence thing or a growing maturity as he figures out what his role is in this team. And I may be reading way too much into this.
But I like our people too.
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
i said this before, but i still wonder how much of that is lack of confidence in his shot (be it strength or accuracy)
due to loss of mobility (I think it was a Tracey article, where he flexed his wrist and there was an obvious difference in range of motion between the two). i’m sure he’ll learn to compensate for it but won’t happen immediately.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe he should talk to Hossa
I get the feeling that Big Hoss has changed his game a bit, perhaps in recognition of his physical limitations. Either that, or he takes slapshots a lot more now because he thinks he can make them…
I'm hoping the all-star game and the break loosens him up
A slumping offensive player getting to play in a game where no one plays defense might build his confidence. (And there I go with the amateur psychiatry)
hah. i hope he scores a crapload of goals
so he remembers what it feels like to do it.
I’m hoping he does that passing into into the teeny nets again as his “event” in the ASGs, that was pretty amazing to watch.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
the passing one of thing 1 and thing 2 (I get them confused), and that Richards guy in New York are the only players I’ve seen who can thread the needle like Patrick Kane. I’m sure there are others but I don’t have examples that pop in my head like I do when I think of these three.
Yeah.
Richards is doing well in NY luckily (for me). There’s something about his teeth/face though.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
by the way, most importantly..
excellent photo caption, Julia!
that is all..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
You laugh, but I’ll defend Gerard Way and company unto death.
stay still. shut up. pay attention. adopt as signature moves.
bitches couldn't possibly know about my modal epistemology
Twitter
there's room for everything in my world..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
except the Black Eyed Peas, of course
They can fuck RIGHT off.
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Dude gave me the best advice I’ve ever gotten at a shitty little show in 2004 (drunk off his tits he says “just try not to be an asshole, and don’t let anyone put you in their doomsday device”) and his comic books are great. I brook no haterade.
stay still. shut up. pay attention. adopt as signature moves.
bitches couldn't possibly know about my modal epistemology
Twitter
I'm not a fan of the music..
but they’re kind of the magnets for all the “Emo-Hate” out there and have kept a sense of humour about it.. so they’re OK.. that said, their cover of my favourite Dylan song on the Watchmen OST was awful.
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
you know even if you don't like the music, its hard to hate them personally, at least in my opinion
they are very earnest, and they’ve said some really great things both within and outside of their concerts.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, that's it exactly..
they have a good sense of humour about being the “Emo Poster Boys” and don’t take themselves seriously at all.. unlike some of the po-faced stuff out there.. (which doesn’t mean they’re not serious about their music)
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Oh god it was, wasn’t it? How are you going to do Desolation Row like that? How? shudder
stay still. shut up. pay attention. adopt as signature moves.
bitches couldn't possibly know about my modal epistemology
Twitter
yeah.
basically means I turn off the DVD the second the credits start rolling… and the rest of the OST was so good!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
The Maple Leafs currently have $52.9M committed to the 2012-13 cap
That’s almost 83% of next year’s cap number (pending the CBA negotiations of course). Maybe Grabovski getting moved isn’t so crazy after all.
I’m not saying here, just in general.
by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 25, 2012 2:44 PM CST reply actions
I'll just throw this into today's pot of Menudo Stupido...
Then we spoke to captain Henrik Sedin about the culture of distraction – the diving, the chirping, the biting – that had hitched itself to the Canucks ride last year. And he, too, told us something we never expected to hear.
“I think it needs to (change),” Henrik said, for the first time in our recollection, anyhow. "I think we’ve grown as a team, and it needs to change. If I would be a referee, and I would see guys do that kind of stuff…
“I get back to Detroit,” Henrik concluded. “They’re a good team, they’re always there, and they don’t need to have players doing that kind of stuff.”
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 25, 2012 3:03 PM CST reply actions
good post and good link..
I liked (actually shuddered, but anyway) at this bit
Nobody needs to hear a team like Vancouver, or Chicago, Detroit, San Jose – even St. Louis -tell us that they’re good. We know that.
They’re going to have to show us, because one of those five clubs (at least) will not emerge from the first round of the playoffs come April.
which is true.. and the fact that that article features Borat laughing at himself and Chimpy not talking utter shit.. kind of indicative of where the Nucks are at.. scary now and getting scarier..
(also refreshing honesty from Thing..1? 2? Who knows?)
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
I picture him saying this
while doing a slow dramatic fall to the ice. Oh Honk, its good to acknowledge it, now I’d like to see it actually change.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
But
We all know it doesn’t take much to get under their skin. If you run the score up by a few goals and them start throwing the body around a bit. I’m sure they will quickly revert to form.
by BodomSlayer on Jan 25, 2012 3:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yeah things get chippy fast with them
but can say that about some other teams as well
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
I think you misunderstood my post
I was just referencing Honks comments only.
by BodomSlayer on Jan 25, 2012 4:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i did in fact misunderstand your post
well i still agree with you.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
By the way I feel like I came off as being an ass there
If I did I’m sorry, I didn’t mean it that way.
by BodomSlayer on Jan 25, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
You totally didn't, no worries!
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
i always think
yeah of course many people dive, but when patrick kane gets a roughing penalty for throwing you to the ice, there is something wrong there.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
though at least he made contact there
unlike the phantom elbowing incident
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
I thought he was injured for a while?
idk
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if TB picks him up
They need something
Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
and more from Nitty from PD
“I’m on waivers? Nobody told me anything or called me.”
“It’s not a surprise. There was some talk yesterday. I’m glad they did it and are trying to do something.”
“I don’t want to be in this organization at all anymore, nothing wrong with city. Glad they did it, hope somebody picks me up.”
“I’m not the hottest name in market and my salary isn’t on my side either. $2 million is big money for someone who hasn’t played much.”
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
oh my goodness
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
I'm Antero Nittymaki,
BITCH!
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 25, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
FUCK YO CREASE!
GO SHARKS!
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Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
by ElvisVF101 on Jan 25, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Alright, everyone.
My two week respite from deployment is complete. Thanks for all the great hockey and Hawks discussions and the entertainment. I’m heading back to the land that time forgot for another two months and finish it off. I’ll see everyone again just in time for a Chicago rage through to the Stanley Cup Finals.
Take care and stay safe. Go Hawks!
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Jan 25, 2012 3:29 PM CST reply actions
Take care of yourself 10thMountainFire
and be safe!
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Good luck, stay safe.
Thank you for your service to this country.
by BodomSlayer on Jan 25, 2012 3:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Stay safe man
My guys’ll have your back.
Curator of Dark Side of the Five Hole
I like our guys, especially these guys.
Unapologetic apologist for hockey South of the Mason/Dixon
fucking hell!
stay safe, mate. nice to have you here while you were here… (even with your feeble Hockey Brain c.f. BLou! :p)
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Stay safe. Be Good
I’m sure the threads will be thoroughly warmed up by the time you return.
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 25, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
comme ca
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"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
I hope that's BLou's computer
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 25, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
that's Blou's neighbourhood
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
Not taking any chances, eh?
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 25, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
Scorched Earth, brother..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Be safe
and hope to see you here again soon!
SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)
yes!
as a good friend of mine who is a Staff Sergeant in the D&Ds (also overseas on duty) often says “Don’t get lost or killed”….
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
Be safe
Much respect for you
Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?
by The Cup And Back Again on Jan 26, 2012 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
So I gather
The consensus is Kane and a 1st for Byfuglin and Ladd?
dodges all the projectiles
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
by ElvisVF101 on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
o maan
i tradez dat lazzee bum 4 Brughjughflyyn an a box o sammiches.. not eeven gud sammiches.. like.. just ham wit no mustard
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
Is that a Jersey Shore inspired hockey post?
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 25, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
i've never seen said show..
but I imagine they come off as MENSA candidates compared to some of the awful shit on last night’s GDTs
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
what would you give us for him Elvis?
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
Patrick Kane is a once in a generation talent
I don’t think Stan Bowman even listens for more than a second without either Couture or Pavelski coming back the other way, at which point I also hang up. I’m loathe to send them the other way because they are natural centers (yes yes, Kane can play center too, yada yada yada). But they are fair asking price for him (there’d be an exchange of draft picks involved as well I’m sure, plus possibly salary on our end to accommodate Kane’s contract.
My inner meatball wants to trade Patrick Marleau for him, because I treat him the way the meatballs here treat Kane, basically for the same reasons; elite player who is streaky as hell and sometimes looks like his chest does not contain a cardiovascular system.
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
Elvis Lives..
and speaks more sense than some on this blog..
Patrick Kane is a once in a generation talent
yes, yes and thrice yes.. and yeah, there isn’t a trade possible for him that doesn’t involve elite players…
thanks for droping by with some of your “sanity-Juice”!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
But Juicy or Steeg for Kane??? WTF, Elvis, that's fishy...
No rings there, no daggers to anyone’s heart…personally I don’t think the Fish got any multiples of players you could package to get Kaner…
But we still love your Canuck- hate, and your (sometimes) witty repartee…
No Shagga, No Dagga
Oh definitely not straight up
I’m sure we’d have to package Demers or Braun in with our first, and maybe some prospect.
Again, another reason why I don’t want to trade for Kane, not because he’s not a phenomenal player, but because in order to acquire him, we’d open up some gaping holes in our blue line that we have no ability to patch.
If Kane goes anywhere, for one, I’m getting out my sled because I want my free sleigh ride. Second, he’d go somewhere where they are rebuilding and don’t mind shedding 2-3 roster spots because they’re going to draft players for those spots anyway.
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
toss in toews
punk can’t stay healthy
Just wee-un.
by jesus christos on Jan 25, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
You're lucky
They really love sammiches
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 25, 2012 4:07 PM CST reply actions
I think i was driving a fellow SCHer
They had a hawks license plate that read: DDN 19.
If not that then its a huge coincidence.
by BodomSlayer on Jan 25, 2012 4:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions
that should read as driving by.
by BodomSlayer on Jan 25, 2012 4:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wow
What would Charlie Kelly say if he read all this? I know!
Good lord, you’d think the Hawks weren’t 3 points out of first. There’s plenty of time to work out the issues the team has (team defense) and doesn’t have (Kane being traded (seriously?)). In other words, chillax people!
(that’s still a thing right? Chillaxing? I’m not up on my lingo)
Wise men say: "Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza"
no one says 'Chillax' anymore.. shame on you!
but as for the rest of it… amen, my friend!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
chillax is so last year
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
Kane has exceeded expectations at this point
while it’s so easy to say in retrospect, fans always forget that every player was once just a prospect, regardless of how highly touted they were when drafted. Yes, he was highly thought of when drafted – yes, he was rumored to be able to make the jump directly to the majors shortly afterward (albeit on a poorly talented Hawks team at the time, but I digress). But he has progressed quite well by any measure, and the guy is one of the premiere players in the league, slump or no slump. Any speculation to the contrary says much more regarding the speculators than anything else.
You guys hear about Tim Thomas? The guy ignored the invitation to go to the White House with the rest of his team.
www.mjt.org
Ahaha
[Thomas is] a fan of former Fox News channel host Glenn Beck, once saying he aspired to appear on Beck’s talk show as a guest.
That made my day.
and yeah, Chico sucks :p
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
very, apparently...
MOOOOODDDD!!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
First I've heard of it
I expect this will spark some intelligent conversation.
/triumph of hope over experience
We like our people!
ha!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
Habs up 2 on Scum during the 1st
of course it probably won’t last because Scum is awful like that
Watching a feed of this.
It is GLORIOUS.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
allons 'Abs!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
Don't you ever sleep?
I thought you were getting a new job after the first of the year.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
non
j’ai un nouvel emploi depuis Novembre…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, congrats!
Un travail qui vous oblige à rester éveillé 24 / 7.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
se chanceux!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
Subban took a shitty elbowing penalty to cancel out a PP
but they scored on the 4 on 4. Subban is making me like him less and less :\
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
ugh, he would be so great if he would stop diving and being dirty
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
or..
“if he would stop being PK Subban”
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
well yes, basically lol
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
The shit eating grin after turtling
is what drives me insane.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
YES!
so fucking irritating. I also hate, and this is true of any all players, the “who me?” bullshit players do after they KNOW they’ve done something wrong and deserve going to the box.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
lolwings
This is extremely satisfying.
stay still. shut up. pay attention. adopt as signature moves.
bitches couldn't possibly know about my modal epistemology
Twitter
i might have to attepmt a "funny" thing
based on “lolwings”.. such as “I can haz a kup run (an sum geritol)” from Lidstrom…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
Howard is SO bad!
Not elite! Lazy! Trade him!
Wise men say: "Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza"
hang him!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
SIX
HAHAHAHA
stay still. shut up. pay attention. adopt as signature moves.
bitches couldn't possibly know about my modal epistemology
Twitter
bwahaah

plus I’m listening to the Original Desolation Row right now..
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Ooh, may have to go do that. Despite my tempestuous and psychotic love/hate relationship with His Bob-jesty, I do love that song.
stay still. shut up. pay attention. adopt as signature moves.
bitches couldn't possibly know about my modal epistemology
Twitter
fill your boots, lady!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
We want seven!
Ole ole o-fucking-le!
stay still. shut up. pay attention. adopt as signature moves.
bitches couldn't possibly know about my modal epistemology
Twitter
just for mentioning the "ole"..
watch this Ireland qualifying for the World Cup for the first time.. and the entire Country going crazy!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
:D
stay still. shut up. pay attention. adopt as signature moves.
bitches couldn't possibly know about my modal epistemology
Twitter
heady days..that summer of 1990...
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
In a salary cap driven age, teams win...
… when their player’s performance exceeds their cap hit. I mean the Hawks Cup year had all kinds of ELC and second contracts. So it was relatively easy for all kinds of players to exceed their cap hit. Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, Ladd, Niemi and Hjammer in particular gave the Hawks a huge advantage. It allowed them to have Buff and Madden on the 4th line.
Last year looking at just forwards for the Bruins, none of them were over 5M a year. Yet 4 of them, Bergeron, Lucic, Horton and Krejci, were competing and winning in points and goals/game compared to the top players in the league.
Who on the Hawks are exceeding their cap hits? Stalberg and maybe, Leddy?
The Bruins had 8 forwards at 1.5M and above. Last year the Hawks had 5. There is no creamy middle to this team. Brunette (admittedly a placeholder), Frolik and Montador have been huge disappointments.
The Hawks are NOT going to trade Patrick Kane. 23 year old players that are struggling and still in or around the top 30 in the league in points? No chance.
However the Hawks ARE too top heavy. One of these core wingers will probably have to go. At least eventually. To be honest, I was surprised that they signed Sharp to that huge contract. I just don’t see how Sharp can live up to that kind of contract. I mean he is going to get paid twins level money. More than Cory Perry.
I don’t see how the Hawks do this. All it takes is a couple injuries to their top 4 forwards and they are an AHL team. I mean 5 rookie forwards?
I would say that Toews and Hossa are exceeding their cap hits
I get your point though.
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
I'd say Toews and Hossa are competing in their cap hits.
They are up there this year with players in their price range. They just aren’t exceeding their cap hits. Really hard to do in that price range.
Looking at some of the guys above them in salary
it’s hard not to think Hoss and Toews aren’t worth more, but you are correct, when you get into that range, it’s hard to exceed expectations or salary.
In the end the Hawks talent should put them in the playoffs in all but the worst years injury wise. They just have to get a little lucky with some of the young guys stepping up and out playing their cap hit and not having injuries at the wrong time to the top level guys to get to the top in the playoffs. This may not be that year, we shall see.
If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead
Nice.
No shifts for Subban after the elbowing penalty. Also got chewed out at practice yesterday for fucking up a drill I guess.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 7:47 PM CST reply actions
about time i guess
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
Still no shifts. ahaaha
Coach is sick of his shit too.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
he got into a fight with a teammate during practice, didn't he?
or was that someone else?
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
They didn't say fight, but he fucked up a drill and got in an argument.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
oh no i mean like a few weeks ago or something. let me see if i can find out if it was him
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
6 Goals for the Habs.
None of them are Gomez’s. Trollolol.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 7:56 PM CST reply actions
Haha love that!
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Kaner's drought could always be worse.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder how it'll be when he finally does score
I remember when Boogard got his first goal in however long, the place lit up. It was pretty amazing.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
6-2
Most dangerous lead in hockey?
Wise men say: "Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza"
only if the hawks are the ones leading
or the flyers for that matter
by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 25, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Apparently not.
They need 4 in 2 mins to go to OT. I fucking love this.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
i'm just going to guess we end this game at 7-2
Hah!
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
toute le monde
veut quelque chose!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
So what you're saying
is that the fucking Habs… just DLR’d Detroit.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
did subban come back out at all?
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Yes.
after 2 Det goals he got some time in the third.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
oh ok, guess he wasn't a liability at that point anymore!
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
by justforkicks on Jan 25, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Tout le monde veut à certains!
Je veux aussi!
(google translated because my French has been terrible for years.)
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
bobman on trades
“In general, you can never be too deep at the center ice position. We’ve got a lot of young players who’ve stepped in and helped us this year, but I think having depth there is important. Same thing with defense. We’ve got eight defensemen with us right now who I think all can play. We’ve got a couple kids in the minors whom we’re high on and could also contribute, but if you’re looking for that proven NHL defenseman, that’s something we have to look at.”
From CSN
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
here's the appropriate video
for a Habs DLR..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMdXi6f5KRg
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
M.Gainsbourg.. il est meilleure de M. Lee Roth, n'est pas?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
C'est vrai.
Il a boules gros.
Pardon, Je parle une petite peu, et uhhhh… something fait des ans.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Jan 25, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
la langue Franglais
est interdit dans tous la Province de Quebec!
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
by mightymike D on Jan 25, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions

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