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  • So...whoever had last night as a game Carcillo would hurt the Hawks with a bad penalty (and earn face-time with Shanahan) in the SCH pool please contact Sam in Human Resources for your No-prize.
  • New drinking game: Every time Kane shoots the puck wide short-side, take a shot. Bonus: If the wide shot results in a rush the other way, chug your chaser before all Hawk forwards make it back into the defensive zone. If the last player back is Kane or Stalberg, drink again. (Disclaimer: SCH legal counsel Lionel Hutz wishes us to encourage you to watch responsibly.)
  • If playing hockey doesn't work out, Oiler forward Ryan Jones could always join the Raconteurs.
  • Acquire Ales Hemsky at the deadline? Um, no thanks.
  • As much as I'd like to defend Crawford, last night was a bunny-hop backward for him. Eager, Crow? Ben-frickin'-Eager? And a backhand? Yeesh. Someone spin the Harry Nilsson: More time on the tandem bike with Razor appears to be in order.

    Time for the links...

Beat recaps: (Myers); (Jahns); (Kuc); (Rogers)

Blogger perspectives: (Bartl's Boxing); (Madhouse Enforcer); (Fifth Feather); (Hockeenight); (TTMI)

Hayes' mission is clear: Play the body, kid (Jahns)

Lepisto is frustrated, but taking scratches in stride (Kuc)

Hawks sign top picks Danault, McNeill

LATE EDITION: Al Cimaglia thinks Carcillo's days in Chicago, perhaps even the league, may be numbered

ESPN.com's Scott Burnside reflects on the Winter Classic (the recap is linked below)

SI.com's Stu Hackel wrote a minute-by-minute live blog of the Classic. Fun read.

NHL.com recaps and stats for last night's games: Rangers 3, Flyers 2; Devils 2, Sens 3 (OT); Sharks 3, Nyucks 2 (SO); Oilers 4, Hawks 3; Avs 2, Kings 1 (SO)

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every bad game we play against them ups my dislike for their team.

by Raditzzzz on Jan 3, 2012 9:35 AM CST reply actions  

Interesting point from the Fifth Feather
This has really nothing to do with the game but on Friday’s Boers and Bernstein show, Barry Rozner filling in for Terry Boers was in a discussion with Bernstein about Dave Bolland. Rozner, for all his faults, does have some solid sources within the Hawks. He mentioned in passing about how some people within the Hawks felt like Bolland sort of milked his concussion last year and has become a bit gun shy since.

That was all they really discussed about it. And I think that’s all pretty much anyone needs to know with how the Hawks handle their concussed players. It seems like some within the Hawks would prefer their players simply learn to lie about how to pass concussion tests than worry about the health of their brains.

Meanwhile, Marcus Kruger is out for the foreseeable future because he rushed back from a concussion. Spare me the next time Pat Foley goes on an extended rant about how forward thinking the Hawks are for letting the team surgeon and head doctor travel with the team on the road. It’s obvious that the Hawks aren’t really too concerned with their medical opinion. Or they’re quacks. Either way, a lack of respect to concussed players is about 15 years behind the times.

I’m not the biggest supporter of Dave Bolland as I’ll always believe that Stan Bowman should’ve shipped him out long before Andrew Ladd, especially if Marcus Kruger was ‘the plan all along’. But that is neither here nor there.

But it’s sad to see that the more things change, the more they stay the same with the attitude of the Blackhawks organization in that they still have a Neanderthal way of thinking and going about things. Concussions are an epidemic across the league and one has to wonder if their views would be considerably different if Toews suffered another concussion after returning (it appears now) too early from the Mitchell hit.

Only time can tell but it seems Dave Bolland is playing his final days here in Chicago which is sad as I’m sure many FA might hesitate coming here on July1st given how they treated their previous prized FA’s (Campbell) and now Bolland through PCS.

Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.

"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."

by hawks61 on Jan 3, 2012 9:40 AM CST reply actions  

Jesus H. Farking Chri---

If that’s the real attitude within the organization, then shame on them to Hell. “Milked his concussion?” I mean, what the freakin’ fark is that? So a player who already had concussion issues in his past gets concussed again and is to be immediately branded suspect? This makes all the sense in the world in light of Seab’s being pushed back on the ice against VAN last year, and Kruger looks to be more of the same. Yeah, just wheel ‘em out there after giving them a swig of Gataorade, you miserable fucks. I sincerely hope Rozner’s wrong, wrong, wrong about all of this, but I worry he may be right. Fuck.

by Waylon on Jan 3, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

those three paragraphs you quoted

Chock full o’ speculation.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Jan 3, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Then explain Q's statement to the contrary about Seab's concussion last season

Asked why in the hell did he put Seab’s back in shortly after being annihilated by Torres and laying on the ice for at least a few minutes, then having to be almost carried off by his teammates…“he’s a big, tough, Western Canadian kid.” I’m sorry, but that was just assinine, and said quite a bit about the organization’s attitudes towards this issue in general. Couple that incident with Kruger’s, and you’ve got a pattern.

by Waylon on Jan 3, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I think what bothers me the most is ....

that Jonathan Toews came back on two weeks later after getting concussed badly from Willie Mitchell. Given the severity of the hit and Toews’ reaction he should’ve been out for much longer than two weeks.

Here’s the face of your franchise, your captain, the guy who you (at the time) pinned all of your hopes in leading this team to the Stanley Cup and you show little precaution and put him back in the lineup so quickly. Astounding!

Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.

"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."

by hawks61 on Jan 3, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s little way of knowing how bad a person’s brain is going to be scrambled, or how long the effects will last by the “severity” of the hit.

by aeroplane on Jan 3, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Here's the thing

whether or not you “know” the severity of the hit and it’s aftermath, it’s always best to err on the side of caution, yes? They’ve rarely done that, and if this has caused them to short – circuit a young, promising player’s career, then screw them all to hell.

by Waylon on Jan 3, 2012 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

There’s no way they’re putting a player out there who hasn’t passed his tests. Question the tests maybe, but I think people are a bit crazy to go after management based on the “facts” that are out there.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Jan 3, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

i know this...

but that’s not what I’m asking.

by aeroplane on Jan 3, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Point is that it's not in any meaningful sense "news"

…it’s just second- or third-hand guesswork. And vague at that: who are “some people” within the Hawks organization? How direct or authoritative is their knowledge of the decisionmakers’ attitudes on the specific question of Bolland’s handling of his concussion? For all we know it could be the assistant to the assistant to the trainer, retailing something he heard on a smoke break from the marketing VP’s secretary.

by Paul the Fossil on Jan 3, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Whatever.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Jan 3, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

HUGE speculation

It’s ridiculous, imo.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Jan 3, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Winter Classic

periods 2 and 3 were some outstanding hockey. Having watched that, then headed to the UC, made my head hurt.

An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)

by 334Rules on Jan 3, 2012 10:30 AM CST reply actions  

Just a reminder to everyone: Canada/Russia is the evening game on the WJC slate tonight.

Should be a good one.

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh

by Steeg of their own on Jan 3, 2012 10:43 AM CST reply actions  

And then Russia went up 6-1.

Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.

"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."

by hawks61 on Jan 4, 2012 2:56 AM CST up reply actions  

liked the links

Loved the bullets.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Jan 3, 2012 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

Wow, it's already 2PM EST and this comment is only the 17th of the day

where is everybody? Too hungover to hang out on the interwebs?

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Jan 3, 2012 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

Everyone

is still over at the post-game arguing about Carcillo.

An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)

by 334Rules on Jan 3, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I just got in from work

and read through all 300+ comments on that thread in one go..

now I need a drink. Not for the faint-of-heart over there..

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Jan 3, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

here, you'll need these..

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Jan 3, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Many in Philly disappointed

at the prospect of Carcillo missing the game on Thursday. He certainly is an attention-getter.

/s, more often than not

by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 3, 2012 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

Even if he escapes suspension

he looked like he was in a LOT of pain and I’d be surprised if he’s healthy enough to go on Thursday

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Jan 3, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a complete fail, isn't it

I only saw the hit once in passing and assumed it was part of a Carcillo highlights video.

/s, more often than not

by flyersfaninchicago on Jan 3, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

torres just got 2 games

thats with being warned and fined in the last week…my guess is carcillo gets 4. and hes probably done for the rest of the year with a ligament tear.

by putmeinthemadhouse on Jan 3, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Apparently the nature of the hearing will be an indicator

I’m reading that under the current rules, Shanahan has to conduct an in-person hearing before assessing more than 5 games. So if the hearing is a conference call then that means Carcillo is getting 5 or fewer.

by Paul the Fossil on Jan 3, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like we'll know for sure

tomorrow.

An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)

by 334Rules on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Is there a reason

why the Hawks have signed all of these entry level deals in the last few days? Are they trying to meet some kind of deadline or is it just to have the option to call these guys up?

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by gwood on Jan 3, 2012 1:55 PM CST reply actions  

Thank goodness someone mentioned Kane's tendency

To shoot wide short-side. I really started to notice it in that Kings game where he had 5-10 chances and completely biffed it. I heard he was getting over an illness so I didn’t really blame him for that performance, but the last couple of games were pretty dreadful as well.

by Ban on Jan 3, 2012 4:43 PM CST reply actions  

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