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Anyone know the latest

On that handsome devil Patrick Sharp?

by Mowgs on Jan 30, 2012 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

Should return

tomorrow or sometime soon during this 9 game fuck show.

This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.

by derlemke on Jan 30, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

last i saw he was travelling with the team to Vancouver

so i’m sure he’s expected to make an appearance sometime soon

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

OK..

I’ma go to the Monastery next door and tell those cassocked buggers to get down on their knees and git prayin’

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

hello Mowgs old chum!

been a while! you planning on shattering your sleep patterns over the next month?

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I've been lurking

and sadly working too hard. My strategy for January has always been to get my head down and hope that it passes quickly. It’s pretty much the Monday of the month world if you ask me. Nothing interesting ever seems to happen and everyone has a filthy hangover following the holidays.

by Mowgs on Jan 30, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

yup. Janooary sucks.. lucky it's nearly done!

I’m sadly working days so the games will be few and far between for me (damn PST!)
Making an exception for the Nucks though!

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll probably be able to catch the final frame

Will coincide with me getting ready for work. These North American folks don’t know how lucky they are.

by Mowgs on Jan 30, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

heh

exactly.. when they gripe about lat

exactly.. when they gripe about latexactly

exactly.. when they gripe about latexactly

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

?

SCH is broked!

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought you were making a joke that I wasn’t understanding.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Jan 30, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

nah..

I was trying to say “When the Norteamericanos gripe about start times I laugh the cracked, borderline maniacal laugh of the terminally sleep deprived”

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

You never can tell w/ that MMD character

Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Jan 30, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

wouldn't a game that starts at 5 A.M.

Be better for you than a game that starts at 3 A.M.?

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Jan 30, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

theoretically, yes..

but I’d have to go to work before the end if it goes to OT.. and none start then anyway:
we’re 6 hours ahead of CT here so the latest/earliest starts are 3.30AM…

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

that's true

It would not be cool having to leave for work just before the game is over.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Jan 30, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

On the plus side

There’s so little coverage of the NHL in the UK, that it’s incredibly easy to avoid the result and watch it back at a more sociable hour. Though I’d always much rather watch a live event. Never quite feels right when it’s not real time.

by Mowgs on Jan 30, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

this is true

there’s 0 chance of catching the score.. but live is more fun.. plus you get the ahem,.. “Joy” of the GDT…

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I tend to head to the GDT

When I wake in the middle of the night. In fact I think I’ve conditioned my body to automatically wake about midway through the second. I then struggle to nod back off until I’m confident the result is beyond doubt – for better or worse.

by Mowgs on Jan 30, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

you know you've got a hockey problem

When your body’s internal clock wakes you up in the middle of the night for games! I advise you to seek counseling.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Jan 30, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I avoid that problem

by never sleeping

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

It's pretty sophisticated though

a) It only wakes me for Hawks games.
b) It builds in time zone factors – whether the middle of the second is 1am, 3am or 5am, it knows what to do.

by Mowgs on Jan 30, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

The fuck?

Jahns re: Morrison

adamjahns Adam Jahns
@SouvenirCity They’re going to give him a shot on the second line believe it or not.

May I ask why? This guy averages 17 shifts a game. That’s 4th line time. We’re going to send him out there with better conditioned guys 22-24 times a game now?

by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 30, 2012 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

He was when Sharp was healthy

That line was playing well. 10-16-81. I’d even be fine with 36 getting some burn there.

When this trade was viewed as a depth move to give up nothing for something it was a fine idea. A 4th line center that wins draws and might be able to contribute to the PP a little bit. But if they view this guy as a 2nd line center, I have a problem with that. It makes me question the evaluation of talent and expectations. A 2nd line center isn’t a guy that’s been averaging 13:44 TOI this season.

by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 30, 2012 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I knew they'd at least try him at 2C

don’t think he’ll stay there though

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Kruger:

11.45 ES
1.32 PP
1.15 PK
= 13.92 (13:55) total ATOI/60 this season

If Morrison doesn’t hack it @ 2c, send him down to the 4th line to bolster Jammer. no big deal. Low risk, potential medium reward…. sounds like a bowman move to me.

by oregon_hawk on Jan 30, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

You're talking about a team

That put Dan Carcillo on the 2nd line… and Ben Eager during the SCF.

by VerStig on Jan 30, 2012 11:52 AM CST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

WE NEED MORE PASTE EATERS!!!

Oh, and Rec for excellent point…

No Shagga, No Dagga

by Saskjet on Jan 30, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Stalberg is at 18 shifts/game

You’re looking at special teams included in your total. Like Stals, Morrison hasn’t been playing on them this year.
Kruger: under 17 shifts/game at EV.

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 30, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Also, there is no guarantee

that he will stay there for the duration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lN7V4_Gx0
"I know, Chicago will be cold, tomorrow,
Let's cash in on our thin blood and have another one."

by Chels Dag on Jan 30, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Did you ask why

When Q put John Scott on the powerplay?
Q will try almost anyone almost anywhere. This shouldn’t come as a suprise even if it turns out to be a bad idea.

by pang off the post on Jan 30, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Canucks fan's take

Morrison—even at the end of his career—is a better fit as a scoring line centre than a checking line centre. Not sure how well this fits the mould of the Hawks’ second line, but I think he didn’t crack the Canucks roster last year after a pretty good tryout because they had Sedin and Kesler up top and grittier options for bottom 2 C.


Roar you Lions roar

by AidanB on Jan 30, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

good to know!

did he do the pk in van while he was on the roster? how was he there if yes?

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't really remember him as a penalty killer

Although he’s got a dozen SH points over his career, mostly with Van, so that tells you something. He anchored the “West Coast Express” line with Naslund and Bertuzzi back before the Shakespearean tragedy that was the Steve Moore/Bertuzzi incident. Played on the PP, and I think he’s the team record-holder for OT goals, maybe tied with D. Sedin.


Roar you Lions roar

by AidanB on Jan 30, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Now, I'm off

to pay a visit to the one championship trophy my province seems capable of winning. Thank goodness for small victories.


Roar you Lions roar

by AidanB on Jan 30, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Top 100 list

I take Seabrook over most of the defensemen on that list, starting with the overrated Ryan Suter (#32- pffft.)

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Jan 30, 2012 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

yeah

Unfortunately I think Seabs’ lackluster performance in the Olympics unfairly damaged his overall reputation. We Hawks fans may be the only ones who fully appreciate his value right now. Think of him as our own local treasure.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Jan 30, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Hoss 18?

I enjoyed reading this:

18. Marian Hossa: Hossa is having a monster year in Chicago, productive and energized. He is a lock Hall of Famer and one of the game’s best all-around players. Great skater, fast hands, sturdy checker, special-teams ace. There is nothing he can’t do well. I think the MVP race is a five-horse race: Malkin, Giroux, Datsyuk, Toews and Hossa.

I would place him much higher than 18th though.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Jan 30, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

sort of contradictory, isn't it?

The author says Hossa is 5th in the race for MVP, but yet he’s 18th overall?

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Jan 30, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn't look at the ASG GDT

Gaborik was MVP.

I didn’t stick around for the MAB award (man amongst boys) but Hoss was the runaway winner.

In an ASG! How he do dat?

Any fear that the Hawks can only hope for a shadow of Hossa in his prime were laid to rest yesterday.

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Jan 30, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

and you feel, with Hossa,

that as he ages he’s going to enjoy being an Elder Statesman and mentor to younger players.. if he retires as a Hawk #81 will be in the rafters about five minutes later

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree that Seabs should be in the top 100

but I don’t agree that Ryan (one of three Badger All Stars) Suter does not belong in the top 100. (which is not exactly what you said but I extrapolated that from the fact that Seabs isn’t listed for whatever reason.) I’d be happy with either Seabs or Suter on my team. If it were possible to add Suter to the Hawks I think our defensive problems would be no more…

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Jan 30, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

all very subjective

if you can’t come up with 32 guys you’d rather have on your team than Ryan Suter, you will disagree.

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Jan 30, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

if anyone's really in need of a chuckle

Jaeckass had a “Trade Contest”… the winners (and I use that term really loosely)

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 10:38 AM CST reply actions  

i always joke that kaner needs someone whispering in his ear about how he can't do something to get him going

because i do think that underdog mentality really works for him, I’d rather kane be putting the pressure on himself then anyone or anything else else.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice one!

i liked the article, but i’m sure that is obvious.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

That is really cool to hear

Felt like everyone was having a really great time at the ASGs this year, and that made it all the more enjoyable for me as a viewer. The love for Alfredsson was so fantastic (the team as a whole obviously had a great team from Spezza to Karlsson, etc…) and great to watch, and I always love when Kaner gets some love.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

B-Mo

In other words, he was the plan all along, right Stan? Right???

by radguy213 on Jan 30, 2012 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

Meh

Marcus Kruger is a very solid player with a lot of upside who just didn’t hasn’t found a scoring touch. All you can do is hope that some of the players you pick up, are what you hope they are. Not everyone he puts on the ice is going to play like Andrew Shaw.

I know, I know… Kruger coming to the team was peculiarly timed. But we can’t bemoan Stan because Kruger hasn’t panned out the way we hoped.

In other words, I think the shelf life of this particular criticism has passed.

by Skags on Jan 30, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Besides

the vast majority of players are not Kane and Toews.

Kruger still has time to pan out.

by oregon_hawk on Jan 30, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Very worried about our goltending.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Jan 30, 2012 10:53 AM CST reply actions  

Thought it would subside,

but it hasn’t.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Jan 30, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

You go with your feelings, mirroring what many of us also think...

Feelings that are soothed by Timmy Thomas…

No Shagga, No Dagga

by Saskjet on Jan 30, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, doctor.

How much do you charge per hour?

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Jan 30, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

2010

ballyb was worried. It all worked out.

/rubs lucky carcass of amputated animal appendage

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 30, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

what's with the giraffe's leg?

I wanted the Packers to win the Super Bowl, Megan!

by hairhelmet on Jan 30, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Just wanted them to give Niemi a shot.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Jan 30, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Still think Corey Perry was better than Kaner at the breakaway competition

Kane got the style points for the props, the skill Perry exhibited was more impressive to me.

by JesusMarianHossa on Jan 30, 2012 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

I liked the creativity of Kanes

I mean, the props were cool and the puck shattering was different and original so thats 2. Perry had that stick on tape that was alright but I didn’t think as good as either of Kanes. Thought that mini stick was probably the best of them all. But still 2 over just 1 I have to give it to Kane. IMO

Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Jan 30, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

plus an assist from Hossa..

that automatically makes it the bestest

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought that was very cool and fun.

You can tell those guys just have a great time at the ASG weekend and it’s a real pleasure to watch.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Jan 30, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know, for me the ASGs are about showmanship - having fun and creating fun for others. "Skill" gets shuffled to the wayside

I thought Kane’s was much more creative and fun, he clearly had a blast, and so did the fans as a result. And his first “superKane” trick could have failed (he’s fumbled that move in the past) but it didn’t.

For instance, Perry’s twirling the puck on his stick was really cool, but I enjoyed his ministick move much more because it was more fun.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

The kid can never win here can he?

Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.

"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."

by hawks61 on Jan 30, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Is it too soon to be excited about tomorrow's game?

Here’s hoping it’s another classic. According to Buccigross, it’ll be #2, #18, #21, #24, and #45 vs. #10, #11, #22, #63 and #100, etc. I guess we’ll see how that math works out.


Roar you Lions roar

by AidanB on Jan 30, 2012 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

ye gods!

it’s yourself!

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

It's me

And even after that prolonged absence, I still have way more SCH posts than NM ones.


Roar you Lions roar

by AidanB on Jan 30, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

that seems to be catching on round here..

eh, westy?

Welcome back.. looking forward to Round Three, alright. Heck of a way to get started on this trip!

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

If it's anything like the Canucks recent tilts with playoff rival Bruins and Sha-arks

Should be a great one. Unfortunately, unlike those 2, I won’t be able to enjoy this one with a plate of waffles on a Saturday morning. Bright side, beer makes hockey easier on the nerves than waffles do.


Roar you Lions roar

by AidanB on Jan 30, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Enter, *"the Lizard King"*

"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."

by thepuckstopshere31 on Jan 30, 2012 11:27 AM CST reply actions  

ah!

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Well there goes that Gleason "trade"

As he signed with Canes for 4 years 16 million according to the Twitter world known as Bob McKenzie

Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Jan 30, 2012 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

Fixed...

What’s with all these crappy teams GM’s signing their average players to long term deals?

No Shagga, No Dagga

by Saskjet on Jan 30, 2012 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

That ESPN article says Hossa is a lock for the Hall of Fame

I don’t know if I agree even though I’d put him there in a second.

by SludgeFeast on Jan 30, 2012 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

If he has several more productive years, he'd be a solid candidate

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Jan 30, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

He’s not quite a shoe-in yet but he’s well on his way if he keeps this up.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Jan 30, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

winning a large shiny thing again

this season will help, amirite?

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

As soon as he gets 1000 points he's a lock

That should be late next season or early in the following season.
The one thing I don’t understand about Buccigross’ ratings is that he includes Hossa in the top 5 for the MVP but has him ranked 18th. The other 4 contenders are ranked 2-5

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Jan 30, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Grossman, Souray, Sarich, Hannan, Brookbank, O’Brien, Hunwick, Zanon, Lundin, Rosival, Aucoin, Sauer and Sutton, Oduya, Suter are all UFA I believe, and add Subban (?) Weber (?), other non- UFA’s…

No Shagga, No Dagga

by Saskjet on Jan 30, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

So I just saw the Hossa ASG goal

does he warp the laws of physics to do shit like that?

Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist

by BigCSouthside on Jan 30, 2012 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

yes, yes he does

is the short and pithy answer to that

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, my first response to that goal was

“How in the fuck is that even possible?”

Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist

by BigCSouthside on Jan 30, 2012 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

and then you remembered

“Oh yeah, he’s Marian Hossa and Nobody Else is”.. and all became clear

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

And it's an All-Star game and the D isn't really "trying"

It was a good goal, but it was an All-Star game goal. Heavy dosage of salt needed.

You are next.

by M7 on Jan 30, 2012 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Trades

Just did a bit of research using Capgeek and espn’s team rosters. Someone mentioned(cant remember where I saw it) recently that the hawks are in talks with “a fading western conference team” to acquire a defenseman. Went through the expiring contracts of the bottom team in the west and found three players who I would want on the hawks.

Michal Rozsival
Mark Fistric
Niklas Grossman

Thoughts?

Rozsival is a bit expensive but hes a big minute muncher who has pretty much always been a plus player, even on some bad teams. I dont know if he was hurt earlier in the year or not, but hes play pretty much every single game since december.

Fistric is intriguing to me but hes a first round draft pick by the stars, teams dont let those go for cheap, but with the Dallas ownership wanting to dump money, they might want to get something for him before hes goes FA.

Gorssman seems to me a clone of Nik Hjalmarsson but maybe a bit more physical.

anyway my two cents.

"Sure, ill snake a bro" "Love me he says"

by Kissmyanthia on Jan 30, 2012 3:00 PM CST reply actions  

Also

Theo peckham is a RFA after this year, but anyone from Edmontom makes me itchy.

"Sure, ill snake a bro" "Love me he says"

by Kissmyanthia on Jan 30, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

i thought the same thing, but you never know, sometimes players from bad team go to a good team and become pretty solid. i dont know much about his but purely from looking at stats he doesnt seem all that bad.

"Sure, ill snake a bro" "Love me he says"

by Kissmyanthia on Jan 30, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Escape from New York the Central Division
The 4th place team in the Central would be alone in, or tied for, 1st (based on Points, 64) in every other division except for the Atlantic (NYR, 66 Pts). Damn, these final months may kill us.

God save me, and watch over you all.

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 30, 2012 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

ye gods

and remember all that talk about Realignment making it harder to get in the Playoffs? Because it’s obviously a walk in the park at the moment!

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

well

it’s time to go on liver patrol.

This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.

by derlemke on Jan 30, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

My big question is

Will the Hawks’ (or any team in the division, for that matter) trudging through the division make them battle-tested or battle weary?

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 30, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

if I recall correctly

one of the Stats Dudes (CNS?) studied Divisional Competetiveness/Playoff performance and concluded it’s mostly a good thing to have to fight it out to the last.

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I do recall that, now.

You smart. Why you no sleep?

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 30, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

yup, tis true

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 30, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

damn you bettman

The shootout seems here to stay after seven seasons in the NHL.

Commissioner Gary Bettman spoke glowingly about the tiebreaker for regular-season games, saying league research shows fan support of between 70 percent and 80 percent.

Bettman says he’s seen a "sensational" reaction from the crowd at each shootout game he’s attended over the years.

What I wouldn’t give for extended OT

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

As to the average hockey fan (watcher)????

This site might represent the 1% when it comes to disliking the shootout.

This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.

by derlemke on Jan 30, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Well he also said "sensational" reaction when from crowd

Well if he was at the game, did you expect people to actually boo when the shootout is starting

Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Jan 30, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

First thought that comes to my mind

when it comes to the shootout is herding cats. Might not make much sense, but your average kid or family who attends hockey games is probably gonna like the shootout. I personally dislike it. It’s like a blind dick measuring contest.

This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.

by derlemke on Jan 30, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

It’s not the best way to determine and since he doesn’t want to go back to ties, I wish they would extend the 4 on 4 to 10 minutes at least. I haven’t like the shootout since it was put in place and takes the fun of that rare penalty shot away

Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Jan 30, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup I agree

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree

The casual fan that isn’t tuning into every game thinks the shootout is fun, most people here understand that it’s a pretty terrible way to determine who gets an extra point

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Jan 30, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I concur

This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.

by derlemke on Jan 30, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

it's the worst way

except for all the others

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by cliffkoroll on Jan 30, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

that's it, isn't it

we’ve had shootouts in Soccer for a long time now.. and everybody agrees that it’s a lousy way to settle a match but no-one can come up with a viable alternative.
(and count yourselves lucky: in Soccer the SO isn’t used in regular season games, only Cup competitions.. imagine losing the World Cup Final on an SO.. it’s happened at least twice)

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by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

damn, man

I get Badgerdano/d any more this week and we’re going to have to make a drinking game out of it..

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by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

hahahahahahahaha!

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 30, 2012 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe Caps, Pens and Rangers fans really like it?

after all, they’re the only ones who matter, right? Bueller?

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by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

as far as I'm concerned the only ones who matter are

the Pens, Crosby, and Crosby. And oh yeah, Crosby.

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by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't believe NO ONE caught it

he went to a number of doctors recently, outside of the team doctor I thought. And it wasn’t until Tom Brady suggested something that anyone caught this. So freaking absurd

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by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I like the shoot out but not as the deciding factor in a game, you know?

I mean I totally get excited when Tazer wins going 5-hole or Kaner does 14 moves and completely embarrases a goalie. But one of my favorite things about hockey is that it is a true team game. I hate that with the shootout, it then ends in an individual effort. If that makes sense.

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by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

hence if they

MUST have the shootout, go 10 mins in ot and then the skills comp

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by Jrs23 on Jan 30, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe they could award the game

based on creativity in the Shootout.. we’d be unbeatable!

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by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Additionally, teams only get a point

if they make it to the SO. If the game is won in OT it should still be just a 2 point game. I would rather the 3 point game be abolished all together but if it must stay then don’t award the point for the losing team until it reaches the SO. That with a longer OT would cut way down on the 3 point games.

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by Tuke on Jan 30, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

10 minutes of 4-on-4

with everyone trying to not lose a point could get pretty ugly. Personally, I already think 4-on-4 makes for sketchy hockey.

My own prefered alternative is no back-to-back games and you play OT until you lose. Or just stick with the tie…

You are next.

by M7 on Jan 30, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

10 minutes of 4-on-4. Winner gets 2 points

loser has shower with Peniseirre McGuire.

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by hairhelmet on Jan 30, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha!

And… mass suicides occur in every NHL rink nightly.

You are next.

by M7 on Jan 31, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

The problem with extending overtime

is they would have to take a break to resurface the ice because it just won’t last long enough for an entire period and then 10 mins of OT

by girlphoenix on Jan 30, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

That's why the penalty shot use to be one of the most exciting things in all sports

But, IMO, the advent of the shootout to determine the extra point has cheapened the thrill once derived from the penalty shot as the shootout is like 6 penalty shots back to back and now we see it all the time.

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by IndianHeadCrest on Jan 30, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

The shoot out has

taken the thrill of a penalty shoot now it seems like theres one every two weeks in the NHL.

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by BigHoss on Jan 30, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I have no problem with the shootout as it decides a winner instead of a tie, but I’d like to see a longer overtime session – say 10 minutes.

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by hawks61 on Jan 30, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think if we had a longer OT, then SO as the last resort to decide who wins

I’d be much happier then just a 5 minute OT. I still don’t love it, but its better then what we have now

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by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

It will never happen....but

I’ll bring this dead horse issue up yet again – the 3 point game.

Regulation win: 3 points to the winner
OT (5 minutes is fine): 2.5 points to the winner, .5 point to the loser
Shootout: 2 points to the winner, 1 point to the loser

Bettman still gets his shootout, fans get a winner, but a real honest to goodness “win” is given higher value.

by KingKorab on Jan 30, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Raspberry Beret

So it seems everyone loves Scott13’s idea of “Raspberry Beret” as Brendan Morrison’s nickname. One problem: I don’t get it! Help?

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Jan 30, 2012 3:53 PM CST reply actions  

it's an SCH nickname..

if it makes sense at first, we’re doing it wrong

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by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

It's like this, frog...

You see, Morrison, well, his name is Brendan Morrison and he wears a beret, I guess. And I guess it’s made out of raspberries or something. It’s so obvious. Duh!

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by Badgerdano on Jan 30, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Literally. LOL

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by Badgerdano on Jan 30, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

haha omg that is hilarious

people sitting around me at work must think i’m nuts with how loud i laughed just now

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by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha

if his hair was only orange than it might be mistaken for Soupy.

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by BigHoss on Jan 30, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Amazing

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by JuliaM on Jan 30, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe it's the Irish connection to me but I have a weird positive

sense of Morrison joining the Hawks that I can not describe.

by SECORD3 on Jan 30, 2012 3:59 PM CST reply actions  

right1

now that Jimmy’s gone back down at least we’ve got a second Mick in the Mix to keep Odie company!

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by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Hayes got sent back down

since when?

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by BigHoss on Jan 30, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

couple of days ago..

need the roster space for Toews and/or Sharpie

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by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

As much as i like Hayes

i would much rather have Sharpie and Tazer back. Did Shaw get sent down too?

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by BigHoss on Jan 30, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Shaw still on the team for now

I have a feel Toews is back Tuesday but Sharpie wont be back till later in the trip. I’m curious what they do when Sharp is back. Unless Bickell, Frolik, Scott or the new dead man are moved, he probably will be sent down

Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Jan 30, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

*feeling

Why Q, why?!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Jan 30, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

which is no bad thing..

lad’s had a taste of the big club and we know where he is if we need him down the stretch

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by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

does shaw have to go down when Sharpie is back?

i can’t keep track anymore of

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by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah i think its shaw who has to go down

But hopefully Bickell will go down…but he wont.

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by BigHoss on Jan 30, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Well he'd have to pass through waivers, as would Frolik

So most likely Shaw is down, and either Bickell or Frolik sits? I seriously can’t keep track.

I’m assuming Bickell sits, Shaw goes down (but we have him in our back pocket for when we need him), and Frolik plays. But I’ve been wrong before, and will be again!

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by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Bickell has to be waived

to go to Rock Vegas, as does Frogurt.. and that ain’t gonna happen

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by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I think stan

Has too much confidence in Bickell and Frolik to start producing points but right now i have lost all confidence in both of them.

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by BigHoss on Jan 30, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I still like Frolik defensively though, which my test tells me is pretty darn good (i'm sure someone if will tell me if I'm wrong)

but I’m don’t have much feeling on Bicks either way to be honest, beyond hoping he gets his name on the cup here since I still think it was kind of shitty he was left off in 2010.

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by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I had high hopes for Kelso

but he really dissapointed me but so did stals, but hey hopefully he’ll turn it around come play off time.

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by BigHoss on Jan 30, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I would love for him to take off scoring wise. He's definitely got a serious case of the yips

but if he keeps doing what he’s doing otherwise, I’m ok with him – largely because I don’t think scoring is really our problem as a team. It’d be great if he could take off like Stals did though.

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by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I love Frolik on the forecheck and backcheck.

He does many things that can help a team win. If he could start burying some of his chances it would be awesome. Better shot selection would also be a plus.

I hate to hear these words, "We hope you enjoyed the broadcast in spite of the outcome." I would rather enjoy the outcome inspite of the broadcast.

by I Love Hawkey on Jan 30, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

42.5 according to ESPN...

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by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

He would have a possiblity to break the Great ones single season goal record.

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by BigHoss on Jan 30, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

got cut off

I can’t keep track anymore of who is here and why.

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by justforkicks on Jan 30, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Scott Please!!!!

I hate to hear these words, "We hope you enjoyed the broadcast in spite of the outcome." I would rather enjoy the outcome inspite of the broadcast.

by I Love Hawkey on Jan 30, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Think of the money we could save at the buffet without him sitting in the press box

I hate to hear these words, "We hope you enjoyed the broadcast in spite of the outcome." I would rather enjoy the outcome inspite of the broadcast.

by I Love Hawkey on Jan 30, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

haha thats a good one.

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by BigHoss on Jan 30, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe Stan could petition the league to turn it into CAP money

I hate to hear these words, "We hope you enjoyed the broadcast in spite of the outcome." I would rather enjoy the outcome inspite of the broadcast.

by I Love Hawkey on Jan 30, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

If I'm counting right

Shaw can stay even when Sharp comes back. I used up all my fingers and toes so I could be wrong

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 30, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't recall who came when and for who

All that really matters is there are 23 guys on the roster. I count 23 with Shaw and Sharp. Being that Hayes and Smith both went down, I’m kind of hoping Sharp is back for Van, we shall see.

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 30, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I sink you are korrect, mein herr

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by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Danke

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Jan 30, 2012 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I love when you real Irish use the term Mick.

As the son of a Chicago South-Side Irishman I use it all the time but I often wonder what you all think about it over the pond.

by SECORD3 on Jan 30, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

we can use it...

in the mouth of a Sasnach it’s fighting talk..

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Sasnach

also spelt Sasanach or in Scotland Sassenach..

comes from Duine Sasanaigh: English Person and yes, it refers to our neighbours across the sea

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

boom-tish

"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"

by mightymike D on Jan 30, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Julia, do I spy a Disney Mulan reference in the linkage?

also – I’m kind of sad that this is the type of musical reference I catch.

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by ahnfire on Jan 30, 2012 7:46 PM CST reply actions  

I'm sad for you.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Jan 30, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks Badger. >:P

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by ahnfire on Jan 30, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Always

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Jan 30, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

oh indubitably

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by JuliaM on Jan 30, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

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