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Morning Links 2/13

  • The Blackhawks expect to learn from the 8 game losing streak. [Tribune]
  • Here's an extensive interview with Q where he says again, some more, that they'll tighten up the defense. [Tribune]
  • Tracey Myers says something has to change. [CSN]
  • Those calling for the firing of Q, Rogers is with you. Sort of. It's either that or Nikolai Khabibulin, apparently. [ESPN]
  • Frustrations are running high. [CSN]
  • Cimaglia on what sorts of desperate measures might be coming. [MyFoxChicago]
  • The Hawks are free-falling down the standings, but after a couple of bad games at the dot, Jonathan Toews won 69% of draws. So there's that. [ESPN]
  • Put 27 in the rafters? [The Score]
  • Let the Puckcast soothe your troubled mind. [Hockeenight]
  • At least the Ice Hogs have won one of their last two. [Third Man In]
  • WIIM lays out the Central Division battle royale. [Winging It In Motown]
  • Why is "things happen fast out there" considered a valid excuse for bad hits but not any other kind of mistakes? E on milliseconds and responsibility. [The Score]
  • Prospects may be the thing to trade this year. [Globe&Mail]
  • The Globe suggests Khabibulin as well. [Globe&Mail]
  • This high school kid's goal is absolutely ridiculous. [Deadspin]

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by BigCSouthside on Feb 13, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Will "I rooted for the Sharks and Flyers" be embroidered next to it?

I kid, I kid. If I had it my way, they would retire 27 and 7 on the same night. Fucking Seabrook…

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 13, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I know he is from

Chicago,and played for the Blackhawks…but I have hated Chelios my entire life..I cried the day they traded Savard for that ******* ******* ****** * Chelios…the only good that came outta that was Savard winning the Cup with Montreal….and to this day I have hated Chelios….I rather they retire 7 for Seabs(obviously if he deserves it) sorry…had to get that off my chest….I hate Chelios!!!!!!!!!

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Feb 13, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

You really

outta get off the fence, man. Just tell us how you feel about Cheli.

An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)

by 334Rules on Feb 13, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

exactly

I dont understand how anyone can really “hate” Chelios.

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 13, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I can ALMOST understand hating him for the Detroit thing.

But to say you hated him his entire run as a Blackhawk? Insanity.

He defined Chicago Blackhawks hockey in the 90s….even more than Roenick IMO.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 13, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Ditto

I’d love to see 7 hanging from the rafters.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 13, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Me either

Cheli’s road red is the only Jersey I’ve ever purchased adorned with name/number.

I wanted the Packers to win the Super Bowl, Megan!

by hairhelmet on Feb 13, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with me

He was a great player…but I hated him…It’s like when Blackhawk fans admit they think Ryan Kesler is good but they hate his guts

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Feb 13, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't see how that's comparable at all, seeing as Kesler isn't on our team.

You are a Hawks fan, who hated Chris Chelios as a Blackhawk, yes?

This is the equivalent to hating Stan Mikita in the 1960’s or Jonathan Toews today.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 13, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I was making the comparison

about hating a guy not playing for your team…I was making the comparison that even though he was a great Dman,just like Kesler is a really good center,I hated him

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Feb 13, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Okay.

I’m not interested in that though. Are you telling me that even after you got over the Savard trade, you hated the Blackhawk captain?

This still isn’t making sense.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 13, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess my point

was I never got over Savard being traded…that was how much I liked Savard…and how much I hated Cheli

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Feb 13, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

Also, I didn’t mean to insinuate that you can’t hate a Hawks captain. Zhammnov and Aucoin obviously make that impossible.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 13, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Hahahahaha!!

No problem,agree with the whole Aucoin Zhamnov thing!

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Feb 13, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I liked Zhamnov

I was also 12 and didn’t realize how bad the hawks were. I listened to all the home games on the radio and after the games they had the old time radio shows on.

by Speed3 on Feb 13, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Another quote of the day?
I’m not interested in that though.

That just cracked me up.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 13, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I can understand the Chelios hate

Unlike Mikita or Toews, he didn’t come up through the Hawks’ system. He spent his first 6-7 seasons on Montreal and was pretty much a douche. Albeit, a douche that you’d want on your team.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Feb 13, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

It's certainly true he didn't come up through the Hawks system

But his local roots seemed to nullify that. I always thought he was considered one of our own….in a way that Edzo never was – and Edzo came up with the Hawks.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 13, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Totally agree

plus, it doesn’t hurt that he won an NCAA Championship as a Badger…

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 13, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Totally agree

with the douche part I don’t get what the deal is, I’m sure if I mention Eric Daze a lot of haters are gonna reply

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Feb 13, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

27

goes in the rafters even if the only thing he ever did was show the ref his chicklets after the cross check from Featherstone to make sure they assessed the major. Except for that night in June, 2010, the best thing I’ve ever seen in hockey. And he was a fucking rookie.

An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)

by 334Rules on Feb 13, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

lol

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 13, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice

rec

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 13, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Haven't paid attention at all to the beats or any coverage since Saturday night

Genuinely surprised a head hasn’t rolled or a panic trade wasn’t made. If Jesse Rogers is suggesting Q’s departure, you know it’s getting bad.

I agree with McClure’s wrap that it’s likely to be Kitchen just to placate the fans. Won’t fix a got-damn thing though.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 13, 2012 9:52 AM CST reply actions  

Honestly, I'd fire Kitch

BRING BACK SAVARD!

so thats my stupid comment for today.

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by BigCSouthside on Feb 13, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I would not be opposed to letting all three of the top guys go right now

IF and ONLY IF, a good replacement who has a system that will work with the current roster is available first. This I do not know if it exists.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 13, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd be thrilled with anyone

who can make special teams better. Honestly thats all I am asking for right now.

Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist

by BigCSouthside on Feb 13, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep. Me too.

Don’t try to fix it all at once. Just get the PP back on track first.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 13, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I wanted him fired last year but do it NOW!

ohh I like meathead statement of the day! :)

hmm…Fire Kitch!! Hmm. what else can we do!

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 13, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Fire Rocky, obviously

He hired the guy who got rid of Big Buff. Lets pool SCH money and buy the Hawks.

Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist

by BigCSouthside on Feb 13, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I got $8 on me

And I can probably fool my office into sponsoring me for a marathon or something and come up with another $200 by tomorrow.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 13, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I got about 15 on me

so umm were fucked

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 13, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I got a couple hundred

so far Im majority owner! BTW, if that were the case, the Hawks would be relocated to Florida in 5 years due to financial problems.

Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist

by BigCSouthside on Feb 13, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Director of Public Humiliation

Hah, thats funny! It’s a joke right? I mean it is not because it is serious, ughhhhhhhh nevermind…………………………………….

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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Never type and post an article from your cell phone.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 13, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Ha, KtG!

“I swear on my life, Vik, thongs are gonna be a hit in the NHL. You’re a trendsetter!”

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

brilliant

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 13, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

hahaha, this is awesome.

My job sounds like a perfect fit for me!

by Katherine215 on Feb 13, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know

what exactly are your qualifications?

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 13, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Congratulations BigC

You win the internet for today

Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?

by The Cup And Back Again on Feb 13, 2012 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

YES

when do I get my banhammer?

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Giving up on even-handedness & politeness. Going for open contempt & disdain.

by ahnfire on Feb 14, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

hey that's funny and a good idea.

do you have any spare forms.

How about “I’m fighting for a cure for bandwagon jumpers.”

by wardrums on Feb 13, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

If they bring back Savy

they might else well just set up a table and stocked bar behind the bench, and have Hull and the rest of the ambassadors hang out there too.

On second thought, that might not be a bad idea.

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

The Hawk Pack

The should also make all the Ice Crew Girls wear shirts that say “Object” and re-instate smoking at the UC as long as one wears a smoking jacket and uses one of those really long cigarette holders.

I wanted the Packers to win the Super Bowl, Megan!

by hairhelmet on Feb 13, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

part of me expects nothing to happen.

a meeting with Q, Stan doing an interview, and nothing.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Are the fans relegated to SCH and some on Twitter.

Because I don’t even think the average fan knows who the hell Mike Kitchen is.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 13, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I usually have no issue with Greg on PD

Here, he talks about the Moore-Fedotenko hit which I have no big issue with how the NHL ruled, though do find the fine somewhat confusing. But then Greg goes into comparring it to the Bouchard hit (the one he intentionally swung his stick toward the upper body at Calvert). This is not the first or second or third time Greg has whinned about the Bouchard call. It is kinda getting annoying now.

PS I really would rather be complaining about Greg on PD right now then the Hawks, that has gotten, well……………yeah…..

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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Never type and post an article from your cell phone.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 13, 2012 10:21 AM CST reply actions  

Ughhhhh

Linky Here

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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Never type and post an article from your cell phone.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 13, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

OMG, the caption, Julia!

You so bad!!

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 10:21 AM CST reply actions  

SHE WAS THE VOICE, OKAY. No disrespect meant. Okay, maybe a tiny bit.

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bitches couldn't possibly know about my modal epistemology
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by JuliaM on Feb 13, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I admit I LOL'd

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I miss 2011 sports

Back when the Hawks were able to win close games. When Derrick Rose’s back didn’t need an exorcist. When Jay Cutler was making the Bears a sneaky playoff contender. When I was jacked up over the man pageant of a front office the Cubs had hired.

Now, it’s defunct PP and shoddy goaltending. Jay Cutler procreating with a former reality TV star. Brian Scalabrine getting playing time in meaningful spots instead of just being the human victory cigar. Looking at the Cubs roster and saying “who IS this guy?” at least two times.

Sorry. Had to vent a little.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 13, 2012 10:22 AM CST reply actions  

Derek Roy anyone?

“NHLTradesFirst Suter and Weber will not be traded. No point in naming teams. Derek Roy is getting serious interest from #Blackhawks, #Ducks, #Avs”

by Samuroth on Feb 13, 2012 10:26 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

How is his two-way play?

Does adding a forward really bring the defensive play/goaltending back to above-average?

by RVW5000 on Feb 13, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah im wondering the same

I’m not one to read stats well so ill leave that to someone else

by Samuroth on Feb 13, 2012 10:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

sure as shit won't make us any bigger

sbnation has him as 5’9", 184#

could be that kind of guy we want in between hossa/sharp for the long term (or at least, that’s my first-glance take). Wonder how he is defensively. -8 on buffalo means what?

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Um, that's good for Buffalo

He’s on a shitty team.

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Off zone start and finish %

are dead even, and he’s 3rd on forwards for corsi rel. QC

Seems like he wouldn’t be the end of the world, depending on what we lose for him. Won’t matter one whit unless the team plays better.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

So what do we do with Morrison?

4th line with Mayers moved to the wing? Kruger?

by RVW5000 on Feb 13, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

morrison-mayers-shaw/kruger/frolik/stally/bicks/smith

nothing wrong with a bit of depth.

again, depending on what we give up

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed completely and at least when watching the debacle in Phoenix I heard Morrison’s name mentioned more than once by the TV ancrs.

Talk about a has been…this guy really doesn’t seem to be even 4th line caliber.

by slagwater on Feb 13, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Derek Roy anyone?

“NHLTradesFirst Suter and Weber will not be traded. No point in naming teams. Derek Roy is getting serious interest from #Blackhawks, #Ducks, #Avs”

by Samuroth on Feb 13, 2012 10:26 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

damn phone

Sorry about the double post

by Samuroth on Feb 13, 2012 10:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks for the set up....

Now THAT’S a “smart phone”!

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't care what anyone says Samuroth

you’ve got great taste in my book.

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 14, 2012 8:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Is there a point to reading any of those articles at this point?

Since Jan. 1 you’ve got a -10 (46G, 56GA… didn’t double check my math.) goal differential and have gone 5-8-3. The Hawks are scoring, but not winning when they do.

I don’t think adding 2C solves this problem. Does it?

by RVW5000 on Feb 13, 2012 10:30 AM CST reply actions  

i agree

2nd line center isn’t a necessity…defense is

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Feb 13, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

"flashes of brilliance"?

He’s been their regular backup for the past 4 years (.916 career Sv%). And sure, he’s had a few bad games in the last month, but he’s still .920 for the season.

If that’s “mediocrity” then what’s the term for the Hawks’ goalies?

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Get what you can should be the plan right now

Roy is a PKer.

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah, yeah I'm not that familiar with his game

But if he can help the PK, that’s a start I guess.

by RVW5000 on Feb 13, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

This is great!

On a different note, it looks like your ‘q’ key may not be working.

by corbant on Feb 13, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

A subtle reference to how well our coach is working, maybe.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 13, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

On a different note, it looks like your ‘be’ key may not be working.

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Dammit!

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 13, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck

Just making sure my ‘fuck’ key works before the next game.

I wanted the Packers to win the Super Bowl, Megan!

by hairhelmet on Feb 13, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

The letters have long since worn off.

I simply type that word from memory now.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 13, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Julia ...

Here’s another Globe and Mail link that talks specifically about, ahem, the goaltending “situation” … here’s the link … and it has a solution that I know right now EVERYONE will be on baord with.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 13, 2012 10:33 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks bro

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by JuliaM on Feb 13, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Thx for the link…decent article and I like the mention of the 3 pt system where teams get 1 pt for an OT loss keeping standings too close.

I much prefer 3 pts win, 2 pts OT win, 1 pts OT loss, 0 pts loss.

.. slag ..

by slagwater on Feb 13, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Hmm
In January, 48 of 180 games went to overtime or a shootout. That is 26.7 per cent, which means in almost one-third of the games, two teams come away with at least a point.

Pretty sure that’s much closer to 1/4 of the games, but I guess 1/3 is a bigger scarier ratio… so screw reality.

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by DesertHawk on Feb 13, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

One third????!!! That’s practically almost half. Every other bloody game there’s an extra popint awarded, that’s crazy.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 13, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Fearless...probably meatheaded-ly stupid, predictions

for the conclusion of the trip:
Preds “win the neutral zone” and the game, pushing more to the “we’re gonna miss the playoffs” conclusion.
Then…Hawks win in solid fashion in the Garden (thinking [hoping, actually] the atmosphere there will wake them up, and the Rangers will let up a bit thinking they’ll walk over a struggling team) and in Columbus. Come home, and shutout the Blues on NBC.

Why am I thinking this? I don’t know, why the fuck not? Just…please, let’s go Hawks.

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Feb 13, 2012 10:38 AM CST reply actions  

So, IF Roy were to be acquired

Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Sharp-Roy-Hossa

This would be the probable Top 6, yes?

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 13, 2012 10:40 AM CST reply actions  

would have to think so.

I wouldn’t mind seeing some combo of krugs/bicks/frofro/bolland on the third. Krugs/Bolly/Fro is a lot of defensive acumen.

but… there are bigger problems than where people slot in.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

That 3rd line needs help

I’m not sure who is available

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
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by Jrs23 on Feb 13, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

For the first two shifts ’til schitzo-Q changes lines again.

by slagwater on Feb 13, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Jesse Rogers preaching on ESPN 1000!

I actually agree with his reasoning and logic! DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER!

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 13, 2012 10:47 AM CST reply actions  

Said the powerplay and penalty kill is a direct reflection of bad coaching/strategy

Also said that this is the exact type of streak that gets coaches fired in this league.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 13, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

These comments would hold even the slightest bit of cache if Jesse weren’t piling on/windsocking right now and would have actually asked a real fucking question at some point in the last 3 and a half years.

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It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame

by McClure on Feb 13, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

If he's windsocking

We know that this whole “Fire Q” thing is gaining steam at least. Especially among his fellow beats.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 13, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

He's been reading SCH, obviously.

He had to find some credibility somewhere.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 13, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Thenhe went all Jesse Rogers on us

and brought up Niemi and his rebound control

Chicago Blackhawks: No Longer Rusted Steel on Slush!

by Roos-34 on Feb 13, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Stan has spoken.
@CSNBoden
Just intvwd. #Blackhawks’ Stan Bowman for tonite’s “SportsNet Central” at 630 & tomorrow’s pregame. Q is “absolutely” the guy moving fwd

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 13, 2012 10:48 AM CST reply actions  

Don't the GM's say that

before they fire someone?

Lead writer of nothing, commenter on everything.

by westy99 on Feb 13, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

only slightly better than the deathknell that is

“Of course we back (name of DMW here) 1,000%”

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 13, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

ugh... thanks for reminding me of that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lN7V4_Gx0
"I know, Chicago will be cold, tomorrow,
Let's cash in on our thin blood and have another one."

by Chels Dag on Feb 13, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I've always thought Q would coach out at least the rest of the season.

He has enough in the bank to cover this losing streak, but his capital is seriously depleted. I’d agree that if the Hawks miss the playoffs he is a goner.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 13, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

westy is sort of right

organizations, from small to large, colleges to the white house, ALWAYS say “they have our full support” regardless of what is about to go down.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

So Q

isn’t going anywhere….then who is….?Maybe a big deal will go down?Or lets just stand pat and hope John Scott turns into the #4 D man that Q and Stan think he is,hahahaha!sorry couldn’t help myself

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Feb 13, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

OK

So how much longer do we have to wait to hear what Q or Bowman thinks is a potential solution to the team not getting shit done in the last month?

by RVW5000 on Feb 13, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

oh wait I forgot Q told us already

before the last 3 losses

“tighten things up”

by RVW5000 on Feb 13, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

It's like the underpat Gnomes

First you tighten things up….then….?……and then you win….the formula for success!

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Feb 13, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Fuck

I’m gonna go broke buying enough liquor to keep me sane.

by Ban on Feb 13, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Per Boden

Bowman also says “we’re not focused on goaltending” before deadline & market remains quiet. More later on CSN & csnchicago.com #Blackhawks

by RVW5000 on Feb 13, 2012 10:58 AM CST reply actions  

a lot of teams

will be in the same boat

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by westy99 on Feb 13, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

If thats the case

Bartender, I’ll have a Xanaxcolada with a Valium kicker.

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by BigCSouthside on Feb 13, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

So Q is the guy

and they aren’t focused on Goaltending….

sorry, that sounds like a bunch of crap and smoke to me.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

sounds like a bunch of crap and smoke to me

It’s a StanBo stink bomb.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Stan Lies

Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?

by The Cup And Back Again on Feb 13, 2012 11:51 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe he's talking about some other team he works for?

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by HawksCT429 on Feb 13, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I don’t know why this surprises people … despite the problems we’ve had in net. I mean, when you look at the available options, just who would people go after if they were Stan?

As well, I have serious reservations about the coaching, but I’ve also never thought Q was in danger of being replaced this season … again, it wasn’t that long ago that we were in first. I have tons of problems with Q, but he’s earned at least the chance to right his own ship.

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by ChicoMaki on Feb 13, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Coaching

When this year was our PP at it’s best?

by RVW5000 on Feb 13, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I know the problems. I’ve seen them, too. I just think Q has earned the right to try to fix things, and a dozen games isn’t enough to do that given how poorly we’ve played in conjunction with the problems. There’s no way any sane person can lay all this teams woes at the foot/feet of the coach/es. There’s way more wrong right now than coaching. I don’t care what system Q/Havi/Kitch are employing on the PP and PK … this team sucks far worse on special teams than just the system they’re playing indicates.

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by ChicoMaki on Feb 13, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

That deadspin goal was filthy, but...

I’m more impressed with the 5’ 10" 220 native american captain with surgical stick skills. He needs to wear the 4 feathers.

I wanted the Packers to win the Super Bowl, Megan!

by hairhelmet on Feb 13, 2012 11:37 AM CST reply actions  

220 lbs.

I wanted the Packers to win the Super Bowl, Megan!

by hairhelmet on Feb 13, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Jersey Foul

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by McClure on Feb 13, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Gretzky had to earn money for his wife's gambling problem legal defense.

So he went around to each team and let the think he’d play for them for $500k. It was the best $500k Dollar Bill ever spent.

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by hairhelmet on Feb 13, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

What day was that?

I’m totally confused here.

by TKHO on Feb 13, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Wayne Gretzky's fantasy camp in Vegas

Pics are on his facebook.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 13, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

It's a fantasy camp

They always fantasized about wearing the Indian Head. Could you imagine?

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 13, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Brett, please

Wear the proper helmet, try not to show up drunk, and for God’s sake switch to salad

More better Blackhawks, please.

by Flavius on Feb 13, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Barely missing the list:

six – wish on a shooting star or loose eyelash
seven – buy extra powerball tickets

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by hairhelmet on Feb 13, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I stopped reading when he said this...
On the power play, Hossa should be at the point with Brent Seabrook on the first unit with Duncan Keith and Patrick Sharp on the other. That gives each unit a pure shooter from the point.

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by Jrs23 on Feb 13, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually

I was also thinking we need to put Hossa at the point on the powerplay – or at least somebody who knows what they are supposed to be doing back there. I hate Keith there. Too many wasted opportunities with point shots being blocked.

by stanfordron on Feb 13, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

How about Leddy and Seabs at the points on the PP?

Yeah, yeah, his defense has been suspect, but this is the PP.

I’m not sure if anyone else noticed, but one of the few improvements I’ve seen over the past few games is Leddy FINALLY flipped over the left side. One, that gives Q more pairing options and Stan more trade options. And two, he’s FINALLY been very aggressive rushing the puck.

I mean it makes too much sense right? Let’s keep Leddy on the right side all season because that protects him from big hits, but nullifies his purpose for being on the roster.

Now on the left side, he’s able to protect the puck while using his speed to fly past forecheckers. He’s been getting great penetration in the offensive zone. He still looks a bit unsure of what to do once there, but not as much as when he had his back to the ice while keeping in pucks on his backhand.

Put him on the PP. One-timers might be more difficult, (maybe run the umbrella, since the angle is much easier for d-men when they aren’t on their off-sides?) but who really give a fuck about that at this point since the PP hasn’t even been able to set up in the offensive zone for weeks now. Maybe this will at least help with that. (then they can run the back door play. Doh!) Tell him to fucking take the shot and not pass it back to Seabs every. fucking. time.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

leddy's got a nice point shot as well.

would like to see him get a chance to use it more

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 13, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

never mind Leddy and Seabs

how about farking Monty for awhile? Of the many Q decisions that continue to flummox me, that one is one of the oddest.

by Waylon on Feb 13, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Considering Q's apparent disdain for Monty

I’d guess no, that doesn’t bother me as much as Monty’s continued absence on the PK

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Feb 13, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

it's not just Monty

and I won’t expound further on Lepisto, but his behavior regarding some of his players are dumbfounding. You use the resources that your GM gives you, and his refusal to even countenance some moves at this point is really annoying.

by Waylon on Feb 13, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Khabi is the last thing we need back here in net. Injury prone and erratic and way past his prime.

by slagwater on Feb 13, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree to this nomination

Consider him hired

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 13, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

So Q's job is secure...we have no goaltending issues...

…and I’d assume that the monumentally shitty PP is just a mass hysteria induced illusion too.

Okay, so apparently this is the hand we’ve been dealt and nothing is going to change. Nothing to do now but relax and hope for the best.

Wow. I feel bettter already.

by bluekoolaide on Feb 13, 2012 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

excuse me.

I have a ledge to leap off.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

okay.

A. Ever heard of the “vote of confidence” before someone is launched?

B. Why would Stan say publicly what they are thinking about tradewise?

by CjSax on Feb 13, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Just once I'd like to see a GM say

Yeah, he sucks right now. We’ll probably give him another week to right the ship and fire him if he doesn’t. Now, I hope no Chicago GM ever says this because it would be terrible management but it would be hilarious to see someone else say it.

by Speed3 on Feb 13, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

No gm would ever say that

because it would be incredibly stupid. May as well just fire him right away if you are going to say that.

by lobster on Feb 13, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

And, of course, the perfect thing to do would be to...

Mention specific players you want (tampering) or give other teams leverage in a trade by talking about specific wants or needs.

facepalm.

by CjSax on Feb 13, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

What did you expect?

“Joel Quenville is two games away from getting fired. We need a goalie and fast, crawford is pitiful. Wow that powerplay makes me think I am in columbus.”

by lobster on Feb 13, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

the last i would find absolutely hilarious to hear from someone in the blackhawks organization.

the rest… not

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Lose to Preds and get shut out in NYC, and then play sloppy in Columbus (worse yet lose) and then play badly vs Blues and Wings and Q doesn’t survive past the trade deadline.

If the players aren’t responding as a whole to the coach, it is time for a new coach.

Still he has a chance to right things…but I think this may not be an all season pass.

by slagwater on Feb 13, 2012 1:18 PM CST reply actions  

What if only 4 of these 5 things happen?

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by ChicoMaki on Feb 13, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I’ll shoot myself !!

by slagwater on Feb 13, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

rogers
10,19,88 back together..15,16,81…29,36,25…65,17,22. Those look like the lines.

another line jumble? say it aint so.

Overload the top line, patchwork second line, and stally on the third.

whatever

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

I also hear rumblings that Keith isn't practicing

which with Hjammer and Monty out already can only mean.. say it ain’t so!

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by mightymike D on Feb 13, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

could be maintence day

for Keith, especially since he has been playing 30 mins a night.

Call me Marlon Brando.

by derlemke on Feb 13, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

It means we put Andrew Shaw out there on D

equipped with a riot shield and a baseball bat covered in razor blades, then tell the kid “No one crosses that blue line under any circumstances.”

The subsequent murder trials would be better than watching John Scott trying to skate backwards.

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by BigCSouthside on Feb 13, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Did you say murder trials?

Your making Bolly jealous.

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by hairhelmet on Feb 13, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Wish we could try this once.

19-88-25
10-81-15
36-29-67
17-22-65

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by Jrs23 on Feb 13, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

http://youtu.be/Cx9n6P0cx1Y

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by McClure on Feb 13, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

win

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by mightymike D on Feb 13, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a recipe for disaster!

Great 10-19-88 are going to be like the Harlem freaking globetrotters, except they will be facing the opponents best FWD and D-men 100% of the time. They may get a few chances, but it is also VERY likely just as many will be against them. Kruger-Hossa this MIGHT cause a little trouble for the opponent, but with Bruno still in the Neutral zone before the play is effectivley killed by being outnumber 5-2 (well even 5-5 with Panda out there I guess), now we have Bruno and Kruger paired together on D-fense (Yippie! barf………)

I hope Rogers is just being a tard of the Re kind (well we know this as fact anyways) and Q had not done and gone and lost the rest of his marbles. If these lines last past 2 shifts a piece (like that would EVER happen), the Hawks WILL most likely find themselves trailing early on again, and with how screwed they already must be in the head, we know where that will go.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 13, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

dont worry

about 3 minutes in the lines will shuffle again

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by BigCSouthside on Feb 13, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

And yet, everyone loved when this line was reunited last season

and was tearing up the league. There is no denying they have magic when they’re together and get going, and this team needs a spark. So why the hell not?

I’m pretty sure there is no combination of lines that will satisfy everyone around here, anyway.

by Katherine215 on Feb 13, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Last season defensive liabilites was not the issue it is now

With the issue the Hawks are having keeping the puck out of the net, I am not sure if it is a good idea to have 10-88 and 15-16 both being out on the ice at the same time. With these lines it would be hard to avoid (with having 19 & 81 ties to them). They will draw the opponents best, to add to it. This is my issue, not so much in their ability to score, but can they outscore (enough) to counter the defensive issue they present? I says no.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 13, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck, 88's been one of the best defensive forwards as of late

And you’re worried about defense on a line with Hossa and Kruger? Not sure combo you have that’s significantly better?

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

what's this - a comment complimenting kane and on *defense no less? be still my heart.

I think Hossa and Kruger will do really well together. I also think Brunette’s speed isn’t necessarily the big factor its made out to be. Hossa can hold the puck the few seconds it’ll take Bruno to get to the net, and then let him do his thing.

*please don’t clarify this any further if its negative, let me have my moment.

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by justforkicks on Feb 13, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

if bruno can do well with anyone, it'd be hossa.

specifically because, as you mentioned, his innate ability to attach the puck to a fishing line without the refs noticing.

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 13, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha! No, truly positive

The kid’s been backchecking like a maniac.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It's still the same team

as 6 weeks ago, and very close to one year ago’s team, and everyone loved it. 16 and 81 are defensively responsible, and I think 10 and 88 being a disaster together tends to be overstated. Besides, if you ahve the puck like this line tends to, the opposition isn’t going to score.

This is a non-issue, imo.

by Katherine215 on Feb 13, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that basically,

people want to hear about targeted fixes as the hawk’s problems, rather than just another set of lines rolled out.

I.e. “totally new PP structure” or “new PK approach” like, actually on the ice.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

then why are they complaining about the specific lines?

that was the content of the comment I replied to, after all.

by Katherine215 on Feb 13, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

because it reads

as Q pulling a lever and hoping for the best

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

to you, perhaps.

to me, it reads as a coach going to the one line that has always played well together to get his 3 best players going when they’re all basically slumping at the same time. Anything to get a spark and get the confidence going again. Can’t fault that.

I don’t care much for the schemes on the PP/PK, so I’m not excusing Q there. But the uproar about jumbling the lines is pointless, imo.

by Katherine215 on Feb 13, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a rec

DOOM! DOOM! DOOM!

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Speaking of lines

Who wants to wager a bet that John Scott is on the top line with Toews when we play the Blues next? The LOLs we all will have!

by BodomSlayer on Feb 13, 2012 1:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I like 'em
  • Can’t complain about the top line. Duh. Wonder how many “wristers” we’ll be seeing from them though?
  • Sure, the 2nd line is patchwork, but although Bruno is an odd fit on this team, he ain’t no slouch. Kruger and Hoss’a defense should also make up for his defensive shortcomings. Plus, that’s a line where his speed shouldn’t be much of an issue. I’d expect them to play a lot below the goal line.
  • I’ve been lobbying for this 3rd line since the first week of January. Stalberg looked very good there before in his brief stint. Bick’s has looked good in his past couple of games. If Bolland shows up, this line should get on the scoreboard.
  • Shaw finally on the 4th line where he belongs. Mayers moved to wing where he belongs. BMO can win draws and the 4th line might be more his speed.

Nothing but pure WIN here. folks!

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm for it at this point

The equivalent of pulling the goalie to juice up the offense.

Hey! I take penumbrage at that!

by ratbite on Feb 13, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice and loud..

Klicked it and just got the “look” from co-workers!

LET GO BLACKHAWKS!

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by thepuckstopshere31 on Feb 13, 2012 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

I know that the Brouwer thing has been discussed to most people sickness but

can anyone please give me an amen, just to make me feel better by agreeing that letting him go was a major fuck up. I’m absolutely guilty of getting attached to my favorite players and sticking up for them( such as Ladd, Brouwer and Stalberg) but I think in Brouwers case it is a no brainer.

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by SECORD3 on Feb 13, 2012 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

This

biggest shoulda coulda woulda. I think we got rid of Ladd to make room for Niemi, only to lose both.

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by hairhelmet on Feb 13, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Eddie O

said the same thing on CJH a little while ago. CJH asked Eddie who is the one player he wants back, without hesitation he said Ladd.

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by TazerNation19 on Feb 13, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Ladd is one of those versatile role players

that you dont realize how rare they are and how much they quietly contribute until you go out looking for someone like Ladd. Plus he fit nicely into our system.

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by BigCSouthside on Feb 13, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

it's a moot point anyway

I loved Ladd as much as anyone, but no way we could’ve afforded him.

by Waylon on Feb 13, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

Reminiscing about old players doesn’t do much in helping this current team either. Still thought it was an interesting point made by BigC and seconded by #16

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by TazerNation19 on Feb 13, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Ummm No

It was a good move at the time, and I have not seen any reason to think otherwise now.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 13, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Not trying to be a jerk face but who

is filling Brouwers shoes/skates? Especially as a big hitting foreward with good hands?

"Knowledge is Good."

by SECORD3 on Feb 13, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

brouwer

was a big hitting forward with good hands? I think i would characterize him as a hitting forward with hands.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 13, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

also not trying to be a jerkface

but what guarantee do we have that Q would properly utilize Brouwer if we still had him? Felt like our boy Yossarian was perpetually in Q’s doghouse and otherwise a key player in Q’s musical chairs.

by Code Name Duchess on Feb 13, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

true

true

"Knowledge is Good."

by SECORD3 on Feb 13, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

We got a great return for Brouwer, it’s insane that we got a first-rounder for him, truly unimaginable in my mind.

He’s on pace to match his career best of 40 points or thereabouts this year. I don’t see what we’re really missing. Good guy, I liked him on the team, but I don’t see him as even minutely close to being a problem solver for us.

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by ChicoMaki on Feb 13, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Top ten in hits last year and currently 9th this year.

Hawks need players that hit and stand up for their teamates.

"Knowledge is Good."

by SECORD3 on Feb 13, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

You mean like Scott?

Or how about Car-Bomb? Or Jamal?

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 13, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Um, I mean as in the entire NHL

I completely agree with you with Jamal, love em and he is a great pick up.

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by SECORD3 on Feb 13, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

well as much grief as bickell gets

he has been getting physical lately, but his M.O. seems to be get physical, than take a break for a few games. Hope he keeps it up.

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 13, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Bickell

simply does not understand the game of hockey. I do not know if it was discussed here, but the SJ play by play guy gave Bickell credit for the Sharks victory over us. We were flying around the ice. They looked dead. Then, while we had the mo, Bickell accepted McGinn’s challenge and SJ got the mo back.

How many times have we needed some game-changing momentum and the opposition player turned-down our request for fisticuffs? That would have been the smart hockey move for Bickell.

by stanfordron on Feb 13, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

mcginn should have gotten an instigator for that regardless

but it looked like he was pretty set on getting into it with bicks

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 13, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

dunno

they didn’t call the instigator in the first place, what makes you think they’d call it if bicks had tried to back out?

maybe roughing.

i just wouldn’t put that much clout into the incident

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 13, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

A dead SJ team

came to life. Clout? It was game-changing.

by stanfordron on Feb 13, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

sigh

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry

You have no clue how the game could have turned out. The travesty is that McGinn didn’t get an instigator doing the same thing that Monty and Jammer got nailed for against Columbus

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Feb 13, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Stand up for their teammates?

like when Toews got concussed by Mitchell? Yeah, Mayers just skated around like he couldn’t find anybody and did nothing. Wait, was that a different #22? Let’s see. Who wore #22 when that happened? Could it have been Brouwer? Just what we need to stop the Thorntons and Aucoins of the NHL.

by chijim on Feb 13, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I don’t disagree with your premise, secord, but I don’t think Brouwer would have the impact you’d think. One player who hits doesn’t change the complexion of a team that doesn’t. You want a team that hits, you need hitters on every line. I don’t know where that gets us in terms of solving the problems we have.

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by ChicoMaki on Feb 13, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Watched Caps/Rags yesterday

And Brouwer had a patented OHFUCKOHFUCKOHFUCK moment when he biffed on a wide open net from about 3 feet out.

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by HungryHungryPanda on Feb 13, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup.

i was screaming at my tv when that didn’t go in, because i wanted it to (always want our guys to do well when they aren’t playing us), even though i’m a rangers fan.

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by justforkicks on Feb 13, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I built a time machine

So I can go back to 2010, hold my big panda bear and feel all warm and fuzzy inside

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Feb 13, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

The powerplay is still clownshoes

36-19-88-10-8
15-16-81-7-34

Oh look. Our best shooter is still 60 feet away from the net. There’s also one of our centers playing wing.

/violently throws everything off desk

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 13, 2012 2:27 PM CST reply actions  

It's rather hysterical (or hysterically depressing)

The thinking here is to get the forwards off the point. Q’s thinking is apparently to get the d-men completely off the points.

Joel Quenneville. He trolls us.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I used to not care (didn't think it was the main issue)

I’m still not 100% either way, but the best the PP looked IMO was indeed with 2 d-men at the points.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 13, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Bolland works well below the net

so I’m ok with him getting a look in that type of role. It’s not like faceoffs is a major factor in favor of him being on the 2nd unit. I’m on the fence about Sharp at the point, but if they’re using the umbrella scheme, he’s not really up there anyway. There’s two Dmen on the 2nd unit points, and Kruger deserves PP time, so I’m not seeing what is so awful about this.

by Katherine215 on Feb 13, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

olsen on the PP?

dude is not known to be an offensive player…guess will see though.

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 13, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

When struggling isn't it acceptable to go back

and do what you were doing before the struggles?

This might not be popular here, but why not go back to how we started the season. Mainly, Kane back at center, Keith and Leddy (don’t shoot) and a goalie in the net?

"There are rough players and there are dirty players. I'm rough and dirty."

by YouFeelShame II on Feb 13, 2012 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

From the twitters

Emery in net tomorrow, Keith just had a maintenance day, and Hjammer + Monty will still be out. And:

From Tim Sassone

#Blackhawks say no way Q has lost the room.“If something would happen here there would be a lot of unhappy people in this room,” Sharp said.

but what are the chances a player would actually come out and say he did, 0%?

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by justforkicks on Feb 13, 2012 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

my opinion

if there were an inkling of him losing the room, the players wouldn’t say anything. And that includes saying anything of the opposite.

The fact sharp came out and said something might give clout that he is telling the truth.

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 13, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

well then something is seriously wrong

either the players still listen to Q and are currently shatting the bed, or Q has lost them and they’re still crapping their pants. Can’t have it both ways now, can they?

by Waylon on Feb 13, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Q has Captain

therefore he has the room. But, I also suspect there are some of guys who really do not like playing for him.

by stanfordron on Feb 13, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Stals

but possibly Bickell, Bruno, Monte, OD.

by stanfordron on Feb 13, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

He's probably frustrated Stalberg at times

but I think Vik is smart enough to understand the why’s behind most of Q’s treatment of him.

by Katherine215 on Feb 13, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Most

But that % of the time when even we scratch our heads at certain benchings must get to him.

"There are rough players and there are dirty players. I'm rough and dirty."

by YouFeelShame II on Feb 13, 2012 4:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

well, sure

but doesn’t your boss get to you at times, too? Mine does and we get along very well, so I think it’s natural. And he gets more direct feedback about benchings/treatments than we hear about, I’m sure.

by Katherine215 on Feb 13, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Self employed :)

But I know what you mean.

"There are rough players and there are dirty players. I'm rough and dirty."

by YouFeelShame II on Feb 13, 2012 4:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

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