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Already deep in the midst of a candy stupor....

Stop it right there! (previews) [Hawks] [CSN] [On the Forecheck]

Haugh puts it on Stan [Trib]

Hoss is slumping and Emery gets the nod tonight [Daily Herald]

Rogers thinks the Q talk could spark the team. [ESPN]

The boys have his back [Trib]

Sam Joined Laurence Holmes last night [WSCR]

Jones and Milbury talk Hawks [Pro Hockey Talk]

This may quiet the Tuomo Ruutu talk. [NHL.com]

NBC Sports Network is awesome! [Helene Elliott]

Nash moving to the Big Apple? [Puck Daddy]

Mike Comrie retires to his 100s of millions and to tend to the Duff children [TSN]

And finally help is truly on the way! [#99]

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If anyone was lost on the Mike Comire thing….His family owns The Brick, which is a huge furniture store in Canada and is worth about 400 million dollars.

THAT"S A F**KING GOAL!!!~ ME 6/9/10 @Joe_DeTolve

by chelischili7 on Feb 14, 2012 9:14 AM CST reply actions  

Just so everyone knows

If you have DirecTV, they are running a free Center Ice preview until Sunday. Unfortunately, this doesn’t include games that are on NHLN (like Thursday’s) or not!Versus. Tonight’s game will work though. I get to watch a Hawks game on tv without Pierre. Yay!

by girlphoenix on Feb 14, 2012 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

the Torres and Pierre ones were awesome

with a big runner – up to the Sedin thing.

by Waylon on Feb 14, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Hahaha

To this one and all of those other ones.

by RVW5000 on Feb 14, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

HA!

how could they forget that one?

by Waylon on Feb 14, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

that was fantastic

the toews/kane one cracked me up, along with the rest of them

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 14, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm excited!

Let’s DO THIS!!!

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 14, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm fully prepared

Picked up a large bottle of Grey Goose and a decent bottle of scotch. That should get me through.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 14, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not watching tonight

I may catch a few but it’s that “night” so the Wife and kid are going out to eat and probably hitting up a movie. Hope I score tonight the hawks get a win on the scoreboard tonight

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 14, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

That Haugh piece made my eyes bleed
Consider overpaying in a trade for Hurricanes forward Tuomo Ruutu. Help Chicago forget how much they still miss goaltender Antti Niemi by making the Sabres an offer they can’t refuse for Olympic goalie Ryan Miller. If that doesn’t work, go after more-attainable Hurricanes goalie Cam Ward. Enter trade talks aggressively, willing to deal anybody not named Jonathan Toews or Patrick Kane. Change a chemistry that badly needs to be altered.

Haugh, like a lot of reporters/broadcasters who came up covering the Bears, should have stuck to football. When it comes to other sports, especially hockey, I think I’d rather read something from Bleacher Report than his ignorant drivel. He knows nothing about the sport, instead just tossing meatballs like he’s a Cubs reliever. He claims that firing Q is an overreaction, then goes on to advocate for making ridiculously short-sighted trades, even if we have to significantly overpay.

by TKHO on Feb 14, 2012 9:36 AM CST reply actions  

reminds you of Luongo

how so? Their numbers are not similar this year.

Lead writer of nothing, commenter on everything.

by westy99 on Feb 14, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

even overlooking the fact that a miller/kane trade is ridiculous

why do all the meatheads automatically assume that he’s even available? I realize that the Chicago way (not the one where you put a guy in the morgue if he puts one of yours in the hospital, the other one) is to immediately trade players in the midst of a down year, so is the assumption that all other franchises/fanbases are that short-sighted?

by Code Name Duchess on Feb 14, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

both over rated and too big of contracts.

lets face it, Lu has let you guys down in the playoffs. Was it all his fault – no. Just pointing out that if you think a high priced goalie is going to solve your problems your sadly mistaken. I would take Lu over Miller.

by wardrums on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

For every person who says Lu let us down

I point to the 28 other starting goalies who let their team down by not getting their team to the final. Lu’s contract does not become an albatross until he only starts 40 games a year. ( $5.3 million hit for a goalie with his stats seems pretty good.)

Miller on the other hand has done shit so far in his career when it comes to playoffs. Keep Crawford and let him work it out this year.

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by westy99 on Feb 14, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Issue number one with Rogers article
Rogers thinks

This statement immediatley makes the entire article suspect. The reading it, yeah we know that presumption is toast.

So maybe the Hawks finally have some emotional motivation… now they need a strategic fix.

Um, Hello. This should have been done January 20th not February 13th! So you have no issue with “no motivation” being addressed up until now, you think now is the time to do it!!!! Sure why not, lose 8 straight then decide to motivate your team to win right?

"He’s been taking this whole thing really well," Patrick Kane said…..And you get the feeling Kane isn’t just saying that because Quenneville gives the players a lot of days off or something else as simple as that.

I don’t know about you, but I do not want to be seeing a coach taking an 8 game losing streak well, when it started you were leading the NHL and now you are standings watching on how far ahead you are of the 9th place team. I would want to see NOT handling it well and going on a tear (see above comment on when it should have started). But to his credit some what, Kaner did mention Q has blown his stack a couple of times.

"The coaches are doing everything possible to get us ready, to get us prepared," Kane said

Obviously this is true, no reason to question this right?

Look, I’m glad the Hawks respect Q and listen to him, but RIGHT NOW the Hawks need a coach who will bring them out of this slide, not just one they like.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully. ΙΧΘΥΣ
Director of Public Humiliation

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 14, 2012 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

Issue number one with Rogers article
Rogers thinks

This statement immediatley makes the entire article suspect. The reading it, yeah we know that presumption is toast.

So maybe the Hawks finally have some emotional motivation… now they need a strategic fix.

Um, Hello. This should have been done January 20th not February 13th! So you have no issue with “no motivation” being addressed up until now, you think now is the time to do it!!!! Sure why not, lose 8 straight then decide to motivate your team to win right?

"He’s been taking this whole thing really well," Patrick Kane said…..And you get the feeling Kane isn’t just saying that because Quenneville gives the players a lot of days off or something else as simple as that.

I don’t know about you, but I do not want to be seeing a coach taking an 8 game losing streak well, when it started you were leading the NHL and now you are standings watching on how far ahead you are of the 9th place team. I would want to see NOT handling it well and going on a tear (see above comment on when it should have started). But to his credit some what, Kaner did mention Q has blown his stack a couple of times.

"The coaches are doing everything possible to get us ready, to get us prepared," Kane said

Obviously this is true, no reason to question this right?

Look, I’m glad the Hawks respect Q and listen to him, but RIGHT NOW the Hawks need a coach who will bring them out of this slide, not just one they like.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully. ΙΧΘΥΣ
Director of Public Humiliation

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 14, 2012 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

I have no idea how that happened?

I know or a fact I did not write it twice or copy it!

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully. ΙΧΘΥΣ
Director of Public Humiliation

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 14, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I've had some double posting issues lately as well.

is there a treatment for it?

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 14, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I looked at the picture of Q in Sam's post yesterday, (is Sam our Forest Gump)...

and thought, we need to smile more. I was hoping he didn’t run practices and mmetings with that utter look of disdain on his puss.

Then I read Boden’s piece on having some fun.

I am now sky high about the outcome of this foregone conclusion tonight.

by wardrums on Feb 14, 2012 9:47 AM CST reply actions  

Is SBN broken for anyone else?

it just went and marked all of my unread comments as read. And gave me grief trying to post my other comments.

by Katherine215 on Feb 14, 2012 9:56 AM CST reply actions  

Meatball parade on ESPN 1000

Now I know why they don’t cover the sport. The callers are just atrocious. Bowman ruined the team, shouldn’t have traded Campbell, Niemi was a “franchise goalie” etc.

Also, Rogers is the worst radio host in this city. Never lets anyone else talk.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 14, 2012 10:03 AM CST reply actions  

"Wisconsin is right over the border basically."

“As we all know, Christmas fell on the 25th this year” (to be fair, Jesse is Jewish, but c’mon)

“And that’s when the snowball begins to roll down the toilet”

“Have you ever heard the expression ‘The grass is always greener ’til you get there’?”

Second City Hockey
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame

by McClure on Feb 14, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

holy crap

Atrocious. Please tell me these are a “best of”, and not from one single broadcast.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 14, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Best of

Second City Hockey
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame

by McClure on Feb 14, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

The funniest (saddest?) thing about the people who say Bownman shouldn't have traded

Campbell are the exact same people who were bitching and moaning about how overpaid he was and how we had to get rid of him… I wish we still had Soupy but in my alternate universe his contract would expire at the end of next year. I understand why we traded him and I don’t fault Bowman for the move but I still miss him!

by Speed3 on Feb 14, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

This is what baffles me, too.

I was driving home from a game earlier in the year and some guy called Judd and was complaining about how they shouldn’t have traded Soupy. I was so shocked, I almost drove off the road. Such a 180.

by Katherine215 on Feb 14, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep have to agree

I think I heard something like that as well. You were JUST BITCHING that he makes too much and now we should of kept him? I loved Soupy when he was here but in the long run, it was the best option for the hawks

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 14, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking the exact same thing...

as I was reading above. They are also the same people who still lament trading Byfuglien, Ladd, etc. They simply have no concept of what a salary cap is and that, in fact, one exists. There simply isn’t any reasoning with them.

More often than not, in my opinion, their belief that Campbell should have been traded seemed more related to principle than to the amount of cap space he occupied. Now, of course with the benefit of hindsight, they want him back, salary cap be damned!

For the record, I knew Campbell would be missed but understood the trade/thought that the team needed to get deeper. Relatively speaking, few players are actually worth his cap number, and it’s pretty tough to say he is (at least any more strongly than “arguably” so).

by sc33 on Feb 14, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

one more thing

The people who say things like “They shouldn’t have traded _” never seem to suggest how the situation could/should have been handled better/differently.

OK, you want Byfuglien and/or Campbell back? That means that somebody else you’d rather keep has to go, AND IT WON’T BE KANE.

(heads explode)

by sc33 on Feb 14, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I have a good feeling about tonight.

Hawks don’t fail me now!

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 14, 2012 10:08 AM CST reply actions  

close but no cigar

Fred Flinstone (aka McNeil) takes the cake.

by Waylon on Feb 14, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

if he really believed that

then he would learn to shut his ginormous piehole more often and allow others to finish a thought for once in his life. It’s funny when they rip apart the meatheads (who are naturally selected by their producer after weeding out the normal callers), but that false humility thing is utter bullshit, and he knows it.

by Waylon on Feb 14, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

this

and besides, the false humility is only there to balance out Bernstein. If he didn’t at least try to fake it, the FCC would have to shut the show down for emitting lethal levels of arrogance.

by Code Name Duchess on Feb 14, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a rec

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 14, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Please, baby, baby, baby, puhlease.

Please Hawks win. This will upset the wife to watch her team lose on home ice. But, it will make a very happy man. Just win to make up for the inevitable Carrie Underwood sighting tonight. Or just win because I’m 42, overweight, and have borderline high blood pressure. The other drivers on the road will appreciate me not stroking out on I-24 at 12a.m.

by neverhome30728 on Feb 14, 2012 10:12 AM CST reply actions  

Tone Loc reference?

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 14, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

too many things to list on Haugh's inanity

but it was so annoying I’ll repost my earlier comment:

"Consider overpaying in a trade for Hurricanes forward Tuomo Ruutu."

You mean give them a core player and two highly regarded prospects for a rental? OK.

“Help Chicago forget how much they still miss goaltender Antti Niemi by making the Sabres an offer they can’t refuse for Olympic goalie Ryan Miller.”

You mean effectively giving away most of your best minor league prospects for one goaltender? OK.

"If that doesn’t work, go after more-attainable Hurricanes goalie Cam Ward"

So now Ward is supposedly "more – attainable?" Really? Based on what sources, exactly? The sources you locate around your nether regions? Sheesh.

by Waylon on Feb 14, 2012 10:15 AM CST reply actions  

He just needs to stick to football

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 14, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

as always

the idiocy of hockey writing is astounding.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 14, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm continually amazed when no one brings up that little fax problem of his

I loved Uncle Dale (both while he was in the booth and up in the box), but that snafu really made a bad problem positively lethal once it was done.

by Waylon on Feb 14, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

That snafu all but guaranteed the Cup win.

In hindsight, the inflated contracts that resulted from that screw up kept together the team that won the Cup. And I’ll gladly take that goof up and our current dilemma in exchange for a Stanly Cup win any day.

"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter

by nextgame on Feb 14, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Not really

The players involved were RFAs and had no negotiating leverage. They were going to be on the 2010 team whether or not the fax snafu occurred.

by TKHO on Feb 14, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, JMH, but I kind of disagree with some of your points here.

The talk of a #2 center has been going on since before the Cup run. Rosie is right to criticize that a bit. I get there isn’t a lot available and we had no money for a time, but that was basically the justification for trading Campbell, the top 4 dman we’re now missing.

The stars are slumping. The team is built to depend very heavily on its core. When they all slump at about the same time, it looks a lot like what we’re seeing. And they are playing (or trying to play) a puck possession game – the other team can’t score if the Hawks have the puck and they’ve been throwing it away like dollar bills at a strip club lately.

I’m continually amazed that people actually think the GM of an NHL franchise is responsible for licking stamps. The contracts to Versteeg and the others were higher than they would have been as a result of that, and I just can’t fathom the GM was responsible for physically getting them in on time. Yes, he oversaw this, but how were contracts and paperwork not under the purview of the resident capologist?

I give Stan something of a pass for the structure of last year’s team, given he was hamstrung by the carryover bonuses, so I agree with you on that point. Not directed at you specifically, but I just think criticism of everything everyone is writing or the team is doing is getting a little out of hand lately, but an 8 game losing streak will do that.

by Katherine215 on Feb 14, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

re:
I’m continually amazed that people actually think the GM of an NHL franchise is responsible for licking stamps.

Brian Kelly gets blame for a kid dying in a scissor lift. Tallon oversaw the signing of players. He should have sent the RFA offers out on time. He didn’t. It was a monumental mistake that falls at his feet.

The talk of a #2 center has been going on since before the Cup run.

Patrick Sharp was a pretty good #2 center during the Cup run.

The stars are slumping.

Everyone is slumping. But to circle an argument back to the stars slumping and say this team needs offensive improvements is asinine. An 8 game losing streak doesn’t over ride the 50+ game sample of a team that has scored at a rapid pace.

Rosenbloom just wants to take a run at the stars. He does it for attention. Just like that Toews garbage I linked above. Steve Rosenbloom has become Rick Reilly without the previous good writing samples. It’s all “look at me” writing and when I look, I see little substance and lots of mud slinging & finger pointing at the highest ranks he can find.

The team that Stan Bowman constructed won plenty of games in 2011. In 2012, they haven’t. Personnel didn’t change. What did?

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 14, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Just curious...

How far back does one have to go to find “good” writing by Rick Reilly?

I’m 33 and I can’t remember him being anything but a douche, or, at the VERY least, a cornball.

by sc33 on Feb 14, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Sharp was a center by necessity, and did a damn good job.

But the organization does not appear to want him in that role. I’m pretty sure the majority of people on this site have been calling for a real 2C. It’s a legitimate criticism for a team with the cap space we have and a glaring hole that hasn’t been filled.

As for offensive improvements, they’ve averaged 2.125 goals over the losing streak. Improve the offense by improving the puck possession, which is part of his point, and the opposition has less opportunity to score. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable point, either. It’s pretty much the Hawks’ supposed game plan.

Also, I don’t see where he’s saying the last 8 games erase the previous 50, simply that the best players need to step up, and they do. I thought his column finished on a surprisingly positive note.

As for Tallon, I disagree, but there’s no real point in going down this road, so I’m just going to let it lie.

by Katherine215 on Feb 14, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Tangential to this discussion, I know,

but the 2C comment prompts me to wonder if the Morrison thing is a microcosm of the issues that we just don’t have the fly-on-the-wall view of. (I see he is not even dressing tonight.) Sure, it was a low-risk trade, but was he acquired with the expectation that he would play 2C? Was that Bowman’s expectation only, not shared by Q from the get-go? How much did they discuss it beforehand? Is Morrison another case (Bruno? Montador?) of good players who are not a fit for the Hawks’ style of play, or of Q not using them to their best advantage?

I withdraw my questions if the Hawks win tonight.

Hey! I take penumbrage at that!

by ratbite on Feb 14, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

If Morrison was a viable 2nd line centre it would have cost us more than an undersized AHL defensemen. Calgary knew who he was, and so did we. I think we signed him because we wanted some depth at centre, and maybe, in their wildest dreams, Stan and Q thought he could spell us off for a game or two as a 2C or 3C. I highly doubt they thought it was an answer to anything large.

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by ChicoMaki on Feb 14, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

My personal guess (similar to others I believe)

Is that Bowman viewed the Morrison acquisition as a low risk flyer. If he captures lightening-in-a-bottle for a stretch of games at 2C great, if he gives you injury depth at centre, that’s fine too. They moved a guy that was probably never going to get a look with the Hawks for a guy with some tangible experience that was easily affordable and wouldn’t really prevent them from exploring other trade options (read: his salary wasn’t going to tie up much cap space).

You are next.

by M7 on Feb 14, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

good points guys

thanks

Hey! I take penumbrage at that!

by ratbite on Feb 14, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

amazing, though,

how quickly he is falling out of use

Hey! I take penumbrage at that!

by ratbite on Feb 14, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

From CtA:

“Niklas Hjalmarsson is experiencing "concussion-like symptoms,"”

Is there any confirmation of this? My understanding is that one of the beats, a week or so ago, said “it might be a concussion” and now it is getting repeated everywhere. Is there anything more to it than that?

by oregon_hawk on Feb 14, 2012 10:39 AM CST reply actions  

No idea.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 14, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Rick Nash

Nash does seem to be available. I’m not suggesting Chicago be the destination considering what it would take to get him, and that the BJs are in our division, but it’s an intersting development.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 14, 2012 10:56 AM CST reply actions  

Sounds like the Rangers are hot on that one

Not sure how they do it though since they just signed Richards and have a ton of contracts with big tickets.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 14, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

rangers can have him

we’ll take some players off their hands to clear space

by oregon_hawk on Feb 14, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I think I saw an "offer"

that would send Dubs 4.1 million to cbj and a prospect and a #1 overall.

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
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by Jrs23 on Feb 14, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Me wants Dubs

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 14, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

not a difference maker but i could see him being a piece for sure

he’s been pretty solid lately from what i can tell, plus his cap hit etc

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 14, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought listening to Jesse Rogers was bad enough with his two minute update snippets

But listening to him expound on all things sports for hours is making my ears bleed and compelling me to hurt something.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 14, 2012 11:24 AM CST reply actions  

I had to turn it off

Couldn’t take any more of Rogers’ blathering or Waddle’s non-existent hockey knowledge

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Feb 14, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

You can turn it back on

Giangrecco time. Even if they don’t talk hockey, he’s sure to say something that will make us all laugh.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 14, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know about you guys

But I am actually fairly optimistic about tonight’s game. I just have have that strange gut feeling the Hawks are going to just break out tonight in a way we have not seen all season.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 14, 2012 11:34 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed

Games against PHX have sucked for a while now too. Getting down 1-0 to those teams feels more like a soccer game than hockey.

But, hopefully they just say fuck it and go get ’em Animal House-style.

by sc33 on Feb 14, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I would settle for a victory of any knid

but a DLR sure would be nice

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 14, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I have no clue what we will see tonight

I’d love to see a total destruction of preds, but I’d definitely settle for a 1 goal win, anything but more of the same steaming shit pile

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Still nervous

I hate the fucking Preds

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 14, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

LET'S GO HAWKS!!!

Enough is fucking enough.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Feb 14, 2012 11:50 AM CST reply actions  

Read a Norman Vincent Peale book last night.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Feb 14, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Okay, that was funny … as long you weren’t serious.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 14, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Tonight's final score:

Hawks: 27
Preds: Negative tree.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 14, 2012 11:57 AM CST reply actions  

da Hawks offense has been strugglin’ a bit der lately.

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Feb 14, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Hawks:

tree * tree * tree.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Feb 14, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Preds: Negative tree.

Pat Foley’s head would explode.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 14, 2012 11:59 AM CST reply actions  

Waylon'd

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 14, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

OH FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK

“Marian Hossa playing matador on the penalty kill. Not even just Hossa, all the star forwards won’t block shots on the kill.” – Jesse Rogers 2/14/12

/gets in car
//remembers he doesn’t own a car
///commandeers car
////drives to Cadillac studios
/////lights building on fire

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 14, 2012 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

Did Saasket jump?

we could really use a good luck unicorn

by wardrums on Feb 14, 2012 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing...

Mike Martin’s got the hawks down for 27 tonight – hossa should have about 20 of them

These are all very good signs.

by wardrums on Feb 14, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

That's one bad-ass looking unicorn.

"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter

by nextgame on Feb 14, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

this is so much better than that slumpbuster pic.

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Giving up on even-handedness & politeness. Going for open contempt & disdain.

by ahnfire on Feb 14, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think you're single- handedly holding up the breaking of this slump...which coincided with your ban on that nice young lady's picture...

…a real slumpbuster she was

And if you give permission for her to be free, and cure the Hawks’s, so it shall be…

No Shagga, No Dagga

by Saskjet on Feb 14, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

your timing doesn't work, Sask.

answer is still no. :P

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Giving up on even-handedness & politeness. Going for open contempt & disdain.

by ahnfire on Feb 14, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

<=P

No Shagga, No Dagga

by Saskjet on Feb 14, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Forgiveness

Rather than permission?

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Feb 14, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

ban Saskjet?

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Giving up on even-handedness & politeness. Going for open contempt & disdain.

by ahnfire on Feb 14, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

she's not stopping you from looking at the pics

just from posting them

SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)

by stacie7 on Feb 14, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Just what is it with you and unicorns anyway?? LOL

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 14, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

John Scott in tonight

per Kuc —

Defense should be tight!

by RVW5000 on Feb 14, 2012 12:31 PM CST reply actions  

Oh fuck just saw that...

See ya Lepisto, it was Nice seeing you

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 14, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

So Olsen got sent back to Rockford then?

Or for the love of god don’t tell me Scott is playing as forward.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 14, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

you might need to fix yourself a drink before reading any further..

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 14, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

haha exactly

Might need a couple before

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 14, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

He's been snooping around Q's desk looking photos

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 14, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

wait

John Scott is likely in at forward for #Blackhawks with Brendan Morrison and Michael Frolik the likely scratches.

by RVW5000 on Feb 14, 2012 12:35 PM CST reply actions  

Even Q’s own kids are baffled.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 14, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Q has figured out how to make the PP tick....

.. I can’t even finish that thought…

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 14, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

...well

there goes my good mood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lN7V4_Gx0
"I know, Chicago will be cold, tomorrow,
Let's cash in on our thin blood and have another one."

by Chels Dag on Feb 14, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

If your moods depend on a Chicago sports team

You’re seriously fucked.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 14, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

My mood was more dependent on the fact

that I was gonna get a chance to sit down and watch the game tonight (first time in a while) with some friends. Now they’re gonna be weirded out when I start screaming “PYLON” everytime he hops on the ice at forward.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lN7V4_Gx0
"I know, Chicago will be cold, tomorrow,
Let's cash in on our thin blood and have another one."

by Chels Dag on Feb 14, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd put him on a line, (occasionally), with Toews and Kane and dare one of the Preds to take a run at them.

Don’t ask me why, or remind me of my nonsensical statements tomorrow, but i was kind of hoping Scott would skate tonight.

by wardrums on Feb 14, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Well nevermind about Lepisto

but WHAT!! At forward….thankfully I’m not watching…This is the questions that have been raised about Q

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 14, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

c'mon now...

three intense minutes of kick ass hockey. i’m in.

by wardrums on Feb 14, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Q's pulling out all his security blankies tonight

Sharp + DDN
Scott in the lineup
I’m sure there’s a lucky tie waiting for him, too.

by Katherine215 on Feb 14, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

want to bet there's hand-made valentines in all their lockers right now, too?

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 14, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

ha! love it

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 14, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I laughed

but now I’m crying.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 14, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

John Scott.

… heh, and I’ve just been here looking at that, womdering what else to type, for about an entire minute. Something funny, something to show anger, or frustration. And I just couldn’t think of a thing, my mind was actually blank.

Fuck. Fuck me.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 14, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I am feeling a victory tonight boys!

Bolland’s line is going to light pekka up.

by lobster on Feb 14, 2012 12:52 PM CST reply actions  

got it

comprehension fail on my part.

It was, at least, in the context of the current team’s ills.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 14, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

what good does it do to reflect on what was?

We’ve been streaky all season – personally, I’m glad we didn’t peak to early.

by wardrums on Feb 14, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Love the contrarian folks on Twitter who get all annoyed by the people who hate Scott.

It’s come to the point where I simply don’t respect the hockey opinions of anyone who doesn’t see the problem with him being in the lineup.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 14, 2012 1:06 PM CST reply actions  

Even my wife

who is a homer, meathead, scott apologist…. even she says “if Q isn’t going to play him, he shouldn’t dress him”

by oregon_hawk on Feb 14, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

That is why I never watch that touchy feely Blackhawk TV fan crap.

I’d rather NOT have to take personality into consideration. When you do this, you can hate John Scott all you want and love Patrick Kane!

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 14, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Hah, I have no problem seperating the player from the person when it comes to John Scott.

Honestly, whenever I see posts about how he isn’t actively hurting the team, I want to break something. And when we win tonight, someone inevitably say it is because Scott played and I will have to reach through my laptop to slap them silly.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 14, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

just saw that reply from Myers on twerter...

ye gods..

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 14, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

i just can't even believe she said that

Yes Fro is snake bitten, but he brings a lot more to the table then 32.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 14, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

...
Bigger body and at this rate as good a chance 2 score. RT @CheerTheAnthem: @TramyersCSN What does Scott bring to 4th line that Fro doesn’t?
@CheerTheAnthem Probably. But considering what Frolik’s done this season, tough to argue, ain’t it :)

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 14, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm. I don’t understand the mess. I get why people would disagree, but I thought it was going to be something really controversial. It’s barely a thing. She’s saying one guy who’s been sucking is getting replaced by another guy who is probably going to suck. And I’m not saying that just because I have a helpless crush.

My thought, though, is that Scott will see 3 minutes, and Frolik would at least have seen 10.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 14, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

she's saying it like they are interchangeable. they are not imo.

and you just stated one of the reasons why

My thought, though, is that Scott will see 3 minutes, and Frolik would at least have seen 10.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 14, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

No, I don’t think they’re interchangeable either. My cynicism is maybe just a little more crippling than yours. Scott adds nothing. Frolik was adding nothing.

Although Frolik is a better player than Scott, on any day, right now I just see the debate more like, I don’t know, how much Nothing do you want in the line-up tonight? Take your pick.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 14, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup

Not happy about Scott, but zero tears shed for Frolik.

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Feb 14, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

eh I think we can still count on Fro defensively, and to play more minutes

I don’t think we can count on scott for anything.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 14, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

oh Myers.

You’re my favorite because you actually employ sarcasm. And know how to deal with twitter.

SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Giving up on even-handedness & politeness. Going for open contempt & disdain.

by ahnfire on Feb 14, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not that (most) people don't see the problem.

It’s that people are tired of reading complaints about him everywhere they look. It’s obvious he is a problem, there’s just no point in beating the poor damn horse into dog food about it.

by Katherine215 on Feb 14, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I understand the point you're making
It’s obvious he is a problem

But I don’t believe this is true in many cases. Talk to people at games or read Twitter – the guy has many defenders. DA HOCKS NEED A BRAWLA!

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 14, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

For the most part, I try to.

Some people want to complain about the complaining, which makes the original complainers complain about the people complaining about them. It’s a vicious, vicious cycle that only a win can distract from.

by Katherine215 on Feb 14, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

lets face it, a win won't stop it

when we win tonight, someone will inevitably say that it was because scott was in the lineup and this whole convo will start all over again.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 14, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

stop it, no.

distract from it, yes. Come on, two wins from now, the losing streak will be forgotten and we’ll be Cup bound again. People have short memories when winning, and Scott will be an afterthought.

And anyway, if he has to play, at least it’s at forward where he can’t hurt our defense’s TOI. Playing 5 mins at F isn’t much different than Bickell’s or Smith’s 6 or 7 minutes a few weeks ago.

by Katherine215 on Feb 14, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I have zero problem with Scott in the line up

As long as he plays more than 8 minutes, which I always (in vain) hold out hope for, or he pummels someone.

If you don’t like that opinion, shouldn’t follow me on the twitters (but I doubt you do anyway)

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 14, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

or he pummels someone

Except that usually leads to a penalty, which is particularly lethal with our PK unit.

by TKHO on Feb 14, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

If it's Jordin Tootoo he assaults

Or some shitbag who’s taking liberties with Toews/Kane/Sharp than it’s a penalty worth killing.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 14, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

When does that ever happen?

His role, if he has to have one, should be that of a deterrent. Seems now that other players are willing to make a big hit to draw the ensuing penalty on Scott, in spite of the potential beating.

by TKHO on Feb 14, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't happen nearly enough

And beatings are clearly not Westgarthian enough.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 14, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

..

No Shagga, No Dagga

by Saskjet on Feb 14, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

What. The. Hell?

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

No. Really. This would have taken HOURS.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 14, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

where's the "Buy It Now" button, dammit?

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 14, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I could forgive anyone, anything

if they have “Turning Tootoo into a Paste” on their resume.. but would Jordin be dumb enoug.. oh, of course he would. Look who I’m talking about.

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 14, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

See, this is the misconception about what I want

I don’t expect Jordin to be that dumb. I just want Big John to grab Jordin, say “I’m going to smash you now” and start punching. Jordin will probably try to fight back at some point.

Now, yes. This well lead to a penalty. But I’m pretty sure ever team in the league would play just a little bit harder to kill off a penalty for smashing Jordin Tootoo.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 14, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed (so long as the Smashing happens...)

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would you want to follow someone whose hockey opinion you don't respect?

To read all the times I tweet “SHOOOOOOOOOT”?

It’s HawksBearsCubs though.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 14, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

It would be so much easier

if SCHers had the same SBN and Twitter handles. It’s always awkward when people tweet at me like they internet know me and I have to ask them who they are on SCH.

by Katherine215 on Feb 14, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Have I been freebasing Play-Doh again

or was there once a list of SCHers and their Twitter handles?

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 14, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I think there was

but it’s hard to remember who’s who when you’re looking at a tweet and not able to see the list. :)

by Katherine215 on Feb 14, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I created a fanshot for it

SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)

by stacie7 on Feb 14, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean fanpost

SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)

by stacie7 on Feb 14, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I goofed on that one myself. You can follow me @ladygaga.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 14, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

hahaha

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 14, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I FOUND YOU

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 14, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

SMS = save my ship

Shaw-Mayers-Scott I love this line! Good old fashioned kick ass hockey. This line will score a goal tonight – gauranteed. Can you say, “Open up a can of whoopass?”

How sure am I of a victory tonight? I just switched Emery for Miller in my Fantasy league.

drop the puck -this is goint to be one we remember.

by wardrums on Feb 14, 2012 1:07 PM CST reply actions  

Are you drunk already?

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 14, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

MT band

“Got to get home before the sun goes down
gotta go listen to my favorite sound
it’s a hillbilly fiddle and old guitar
Cousin stanley on the corn liquor jar.”

by wardrums on Feb 14, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd call that a big yes..

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 14, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

just stomp you feet to a hill billy band

and then stomp the overachieving, conniving, relying on the freak show in the nets -Preds
Stompem good, stompem real goos Big bad John

Truthfully, until things head south, I’m really looking foward to the mayhem our fourth line causes tonight. Toews/Kane/Sharp = panty waist hockey

by wardrums on Feb 14, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I haven't passed out quite yet.

but man a cold Stella artois sounds good about right now

by wardrums on Feb 14, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't Scott have to skate up and down

the full rink if he plays forward or is he going to cherry pick when the puck is in his end?

Lead writer of nothing, commenter on everything.

by westy99 on Feb 14, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm considering watching the game with you guys tonight.

But the last time I watch an in-division game on Valentine’s Day while rooting for a slumping team that had just dropped at least 7 in a row due to dubious goaltending and under-preforming forwards, that team lost 9-1, swapped goalies TWICE, and saw their star player get injured. All this after one of the best players in that team’s history announced his completely unexpected retirement that morning.

I feel like watching any hockey tonight, especially for a team that’s trying to break a slump, would just bring bad luck.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 1:16 PM CST reply actions  

I was gonna reply

and say “how could it get any worse?”

Then I read the rest of your post. Hmm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lN7V4_Gx0
"I know, Chicago will be cold, tomorrow,
Let's cash in on our thin blood and have another one."

by Chels Dag on Feb 14, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

And the best part is that Peter Forsberg is my favorite player and that night was supposed to be his grand re-debut at the Pepsi Center (he had only played 2 away games prior to it in that comeback). I had also been up for the past 41 hours straight working on an architecture project that didn’t turn out like I wanted it to, and was really hoping for a good game as a pick-me-up.

Yeah, that didn’t happen. Luckily I was so tired that the exhaustion dulled the pain.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Eek.

But… maybe tonight will be… different?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lN7V4_Gx0
"I know, Chicago will be cold, tomorrow,
Let's cash in on our thin blood and have another one."

by Chels Dag on Feb 14, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Like you said, it can’t get much worse. But given your recent slump, Nashville’s insane defense, and my slight superstition that the ‘10-’11 Avs’ luck may have taken to following your team around, I don’t want to tempt fate.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

But I suppose the streak wasn’t all bad. I did get really good at photoshop during that time. A bit of advice – if you see any tanks hanging out anywhere near the Blackhawks, destroy them on sight.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

That’s the ‘10-’11 Avs for you. The loss a year ago was our #8. That streak continued to 10, then we beat the Blues, then dropped another 10 in a row.

So yeah, it could be worse for you guys. We went from top of the NW Division in December to the #2 overall pick. You guys have a ways to go before you hit the 5-26-2 in your last 33 games mark.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Well jahns Finally asked a smart question

“Any reason Sharp not used at Center”
Q-Good question, still an option"

But how about soon we try that option

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 14, 2012 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

Has Bowman signed a single player worth a shit.

by camelot555 on Feb 15, 2012 10:04 AM CST reply actions  

Sorry I forgot about Frolik

by camelot555 on Feb 15, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

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