Falling Farther From Just What We Are: Hawks @ Kings Preview/Pregame Thread/Segway Excursion
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Waitin' tables, just trying to catch their big break: Jewels from the Crown, Battle of California
Well, we've seen plenty of new coaches, why not be the first team to square off against the Kings in their first game since the Carter-Johnson deal? Most of us know the story with the LA Kings, and it's what forced them into a big move near the deadline, they are the league's worst goal scoring squad. LA's penchant for keeping the puck out of their own net and their opponent's net in some ways makes them the Bizzaro Hawks. Despite averaging only a shot and a half less (per game) than the Hawks, the Kings can't seem to solve opposing netminders, which is a trend that hasn't let up in the month of February. Losers of 4 in a row and 3-6-2 in the month of February, Los Angeles has averaged 1.63 G/game over their last 11.
For nearly every criticism that's thrown at their offense, they can be equally lauded in their ability to limit shots and goals against at 28.3 and 2.10, respectively. The Toews-less Hawks will mostly likely have trouble getting pucks past Jonathan Quick, who at 3rd in the league in both GAA and SV%, has cemented his status as one of the game premier netminders. The Kings won't suffer too much in the goals against department now that they've shipped Jack Johnson (and his career -90) to Columbus. Word on the street is that steady two-way rookie Dman, Slava Voynov, is poised bring much of what JJ brought to Hollywood, but with a bit less snarl and a bit more intelligent decision making. Voynov is one sixth of a very solid Dcorps that includes Drew Doughty, Willie Mitchell, Rob Scuderi, Matt Greene, and Alec Martinez. With Johnson out of the mix, the pairings may be shuffled around somewhat. I assume we'll see Mitchell, Scuderi, and Greene on separate pairings, and paired with some combination of Doughty, Voynov, and Martinez.
Is the greater Los Angeles area ready for the Night at the Roxbury act that will be the reunited philly duo of Richards and Carter? According to Rudy Kelly @ BOC, the Kings top 6 will look something like this:
-The top-six is as follows:
Brown-Kopitar-Williams
King-Richards-Carter
"Hey Darryl, who do you want on the draw? Him? Me? Me? Him? Him? Me?"
As many assumed when Carter was acquired, he'll be placed on a top 6 wing spot to generate as much offense as possible. The Roxbury guys will be joined by young power forward Dustin Penner (turd), Dwight King. LA will be well rested, and due to the recent trade, fired up to impress in their home building.
The Hawks will have their work cut out for them tonight, and considering the situation (on the road, datsyuk out vs. Det, 1st Carter game), this might be the toughest test for a team without its Captain, best center, and leading goal scorer, Jonathan Toews. As you've heard by now, Toews, Hammer, and Monty did not make the trip to California, which is more an issue for the forward corps than it is the D-corps. I haven't seen anything from the beats on lineup changes, but I assume crow will go tonight, with Emery getting a shot at his former squad tomorrow night. John Scott has gotten starts against the Kings in the past, let's hope that trend doesn't continue this evening.
With LA's top two centers being of the defensively responsible variety, Q needs to spread the wealth. Based on the way the Dallas game ended up, we might finally see Patrick Sharp start a game in the middle. I'm thinking Sharp at 1C, Kruger at 2, and Bolland at 3 with a pick your poison checking assignment between the Kopitar and Richards lines. Tonight would be as good a night as any for the powerplay to chip in (despite LA's 5th ranked kill), as goals at even strength will most likely be hard to come by.
Let's get things right in the white sweaters, boys. Let's go Hawks!
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I concur..
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"
by mightymike D on Feb 25, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Blackhawks trade rumors are flying.
Brassard to chicago? Erskine or shultz to chicago?
Source: John Jaeckel
Giving up very little for erskine I could live with, taking on the overpaid contract of shultz or the soft perimeter player in brassard.
It’s either Dustin Brown or nobody at this point.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
believe the gm said dustin brown wouldn't be traded
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by justforkicks on Feb 25, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
Think he's just trying to stop the bleeding.
It isn’t great when it looks like you are shopping your captain hard, as it did.
"Source: John Jaeckel"
There’s your first problem, right there
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by LanceFister3 on Feb 25, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Jaeckael is a douchewad, a pompous blowhard. You’re the messenger, I know, and we may indeed get one of these guys, but if we do, Jaeckel didn’t know it, he thought it.
ALso, I think that’s the first time I’ve ever typed a word with “douche” in it. I don’t like them usually.
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by ChicoMaki on Feb 25, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I got this from another person.
I had never even heard of jaeckel until somebody else was telling me about rumors from him and then I posted here.
duly noted
Generally I only trust the TSN insiders I was just intrigued by the brassard rumor.
No problem, I know you were just bashing him.
Just figured I would let it be known I am not a follower of his or really any of those trade rumor bloggers. Dreger and McKenzie are enough for me.
Ima rec this for Dale Halas
Cuz if he were here, he’d certainly be your biggest fan right now Chico.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 25, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
Jaeckel was . . .
. . . by far and without any question whatsoever . . . the biggest knob and thinnest-sklnned poster on Tim Sassone’s old Between the Circles blog, which I miss dearly since it was killed by the paywall.
King of the Run-Kane-Outta-Town Committee.
" . . . Just me and the skeleton crew."
Yeah
That jaeckel guy is a douchebag milkshake
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist
by BigCSouthside on Feb 25, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
A power-play goal for the ‘Hawks could kill all conversations about who, and what, this area needs in terms of improvement … but I don’t see that happening tonight.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
positive thoughts
hell yes we will get a pp goal tonight!
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by justforkicks on Feb 25, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with HT
A power-play goal for the ‘Hawks could kill all conversations about who, and what, this area needs in terms of improvement …
Huh? How does one goal change anything?
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
I thought "One Goal" won us the cup.
The Blackhawks’ Marketing Department lied to me…
I wanted the Packers to win the Super Bowl, Megan!
LOL
I would love to see a 1-0 Hawks win tonight off a Kaner top shelf power play goal.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
Let's go for some good west coast memories this season
Time for the PP to strike, PK to be solid and the team to get a good solid win.
Let’s go Hawks!
Where you goin? Nowhere!
by BlackhawksFan22 on Feb 25, 2012 4:13 PM CST reply actions
What kind of person does it make me
when I listen to the whole song and enjoy it.
at least
I am a meat popsicle
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by LanceFister3 on Feb 25, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
Some not bad news
Quenneville said Toews and Hjalmarsson could both possibly be in the lineup Wednesday vs. Toronto.
I am a meat popsicle
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and some bad-ish news
Quenneville said the #Blackhawks have not discussed putting Steve Montador on LTIR, but it “could be” an option come Monday.
The good the bad and the ugly
Meanwhile, Catfish is still uglier yet more attractive than Fluffy.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
if there is no change with him and they have implied his season is over
why bother waiting?
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by justforkicks on Feb 25, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
jebus, look at Phucking Phoenix..
all of a sudden they find themselves in 3rd in the West.. and a 5-game streak to boot..
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"
I think it's kinda bullshit that we have the same number of points as them
and would beat them in the tie-breaker but they’re ranked 3rd and we’re 6th
I've said it before
and doubtless I’ll say it again, but the Divisional Seeding has GOT to go.. this year being an extreme example
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"
by mightymike D on Feb 25, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
Ya, their February looks rather like ours, huh?
We did our part. Truly selfless players on this team.
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ya his puck playing works great with tippets system
but on the flipside, tippet goalies get a lot of help from the style he employs.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 25, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Was Paul Gaustad ever a Hawks trade option?
Because it seems he just hurt his hand fighting Brandon Prust just now.
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Coincidental that Hack mentioned Sharp at center
In my opinion, if no forward is coming, Q really has to try Sharp back at center again.
I’m working on a fanpost, which looks at projected season numbers for a potential Hawks lineup, in an attempt to see just how good of a team the Hawks could ice with the players they have now.
For example, Jimmy Hayes has played 19 games. Project over an 82 game season, he would have 43 points. By comparison, Stalberg would have 44 and Bolland 42. Jimmy likes these projections. So does CNS.
I’ve only just started working on the data, but here are the offensive projections for what I believe is pretty damned good lineup with the players the Hawks possess now. I sat Monty out due to the fact he may not be back.

This lineup averages 3.24 Goals per Game. That’s actual per game for the above lineup. Projected over a season, that’s 266 goals. Swap Monty for Olsen and that 274 goals.
By comparison, the best offensive team in the league last year, the Canucks, scored a total of 258 goals.
I put Olsen in red because IMO, all the Hawks really need to do is to find one defenseman to play on the top 4, which would move Olsen down into Lepisto’s spot. IMO the Hawks have an extremely deep defense, but they lack one more big name. That depth will come in handy come playoff time. The forward corps could use a depth forward, but that’s one effing good starting lineup. And that’s a $5M 4th line.
Thoughts?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 25, 2012 6:20 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I like..
are you going to be able to factor in the inevitable line-blending? Other than that, those lines look damn good to me.
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"
by mightymike D on Feb 25, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
you're a numbers guy CNS
So you should know that extrapolation is the most dangerous of statistical decisions. I’m fine with using Sharp at the 2C IF we get a 2 LW. The Hawks need a 2LW or a 2C. James Van Riemsdyk might be available What about a Hjammer + 1st for Carle and JVR?
carle wants to stay in philly
might be able to swing hammer for jvr though…maybe
by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 25, 2012 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
This lineup averages 3.24 Goals per Game. That’s actual per game for the above lineup.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 25, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
as separate entities right, not together? I understand where you’re trying to go, I just feel like it’s a round about way to get there. I would rather have a 2 LW (JVR) and get Carle but that’s a tough sell to Philly…
Not sure what would be a better method than actual production from each player?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 25, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
eep!
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"
by mightymike D on Feb 25, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions

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