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A State That's Untouchable Like Elliot Ness: Ducks 3 - Hawks 1

"The Jimmy wishes he could get in on the PDA."

My wrap of the Dallas game on Thursday was a bit scathing in nature, but that was mostly due to my fear that a loss like that could get this team going in the wrong direction just when we thought they might have righted the ship. Unfortunately for us, it's very much a possibility that I was correct in that assessment. I'll hit on many of the lowlights in the bullets, so let's just get this over with.

  • Well, at least the powerplay ended its mind numbing streak of infertility with Kane's tally in the first. The goal midway through the period might be fools gold however; the two powerplays following that didn't much hint at sustained productivity, and the man advantage midway through the third was a complete disaster. The Ducks don't have all that great a powerplay (17th in the league), but it was at least interesting to watch their scheme when up a man. I'll probably describe this like a simpleton, but Anaheim was running an odd high weave near the blue line (right out of the draw) and the Ducks movement without the puck is something to behold. Unlike the hawks who dick around near the half wall/goal line and wait for an opening to materialize out of thin air, the Ducks attempt to open up passing and shooting lanes with constant motion. Again, this strategy hasn't produced great results, but at least it's a different look, and with the dynamic forwards that the Hawks have, it'd be interesting to see something like that in place here. Don't hold your breath though, Q and Crew think mixing it up means switching to the umbrella and swapping out forwards on the point. I probably shouldn't bitch too much about the powerplay, but I'm projecting much of my angst from last night's game onto this wrap. The last thing I'll say on the subject, having point men play on their off side (righty shots on the left, lefty shots on the right), especially in a non-umbrella setup, shouldn't be reserved for the 5 on 3. If you go back and watch last night's game, (and who would want to do that?) you'll see three of our 4 point men on their strong side with closed off shooting lanes and no option but to make the easy and predictable pass. Yes, Keep-ins and D to D passes are considerably easier if you have two guys on their strong side, but point shots (especially of the one-timer variety) are few and far between. Just one issue of many though.........
  • I get that this was the team's 5th game in 8 days, but there's no room for excuses for a team that should be playing desperate hockey right now. Tired or not, 9 shots in the final 40 minutes is a joke for a team with this much talent. Jonathan Toews is obviously important to this team, but someone has to step up while the captain is down, and nobody seems all that excited to be the guy. When you're team is having trouble generating offense on the forecheck, why do you have two offensive minded guys like Stalberg and Hayes getting just 11 minutes of ice time?
  • Brendan Morrison is still searching for that elusive first point as a Blackhawk. Forget point production, I'd settle for his first noticeable moment as a Blackhawk. Not stickhandling his teammates offside would be a baby step in the right direction.
  • Emery has to have that third goal, and it was a much needed insurance tally for Anaheim. For a team missing its collective pulse and its number one center, they can't afford to give up insurance tallies.
  • When you're not scoring, the missed opportunities are all that much more frustrating. Hossa had an opportunity to make a pass that probably would've led to a tap in goal, and Kruger got a gorgeous redirect pass from Kane that he wasn't ready to tip home.
  • Let's hope the honeymoon period isn't over for Dylan Olsen. Olsen had a so-so game, but he made a couple more squirrely plays tonight that were noteworthy despite the fact that they didn't end up as goals against.
  • Don't look now kids, but the 9th seeded LA Kings are just 5 points behind the Hawks and have 2 games in hand. Sleep tight.

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A California Love reference on SCH?

Did not see that one coming.

Never Die Easy.

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by DMelt36 on Feb 26, 2012 10:44 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not sure if I'm more offended

that he picked the worst Dre song or the worst Tupac song, but either way I’m sad, just like the Blackhawks.

by Scott13 on Feb 27, 2012 12:24 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

it certainly couldn't have been more shocking than

the Jason Aldean one in one of my nashville previews

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by Hack on Feb 27, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

meh

Brutal game. Hope for the best. I believe in these guys.

Call me Marlon Brando.

by derlemke on Feb 26, 2012 10:57 PM CST reply actions  

wasnt the third goal off of keiths leg?

i mean yea, I would have liked razor to stop that one but damn it wasn’t a gimmie by any means. He was already moving with the puck and it decided to go five hole after bouncing off keith who was pretty close to him.

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 26, 2012 11:03 PM CST reply actions  

Keith on Powerplay

Worthless on the point so put him in front of their goal. Hell, he tips in a bunch on us and maybe we can get a few back that way.

by Old Hockey Dog on Feb 27, 2012 7:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I enjoyed the wrap-up despite the outcome.

The Chicago Blackhawks - Unsafe At Any Speed

by K_Dog on Feb 26, 2012 11:04 PM CST reply actions  

Hopefully this doesn't develop into a streak

And we turn in another all green third period. In all seriousness, though, I thought after our first real DLR we’d have turned the corner. Maybe after our first shut out?

by BodomSlayer on Feb 26, 2012 11:07 PM CST reply actions  

I was going to say the same thing about the first PP goal

It feels like this team is running out of things to make them turn the corner.

Never Die Easy.

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by DMelt36 on Feb 26, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yea no shit.

They do need a serious wake up call though. In all seriousness you’re not going to ‘healthy scratch’ a star. Haven’t we done bag skates already? What more is there?

by BodomSlayer on Feb 26, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

A trade is the only thing I can think of

But a trade for the sake of a trade always seemed like a bad idea to me. Usually you end up losing on the deal.

Never Die Easy.

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by DMelt36 on Feb 26, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

True.

But then what does that say to the locker room? It can play out both ways.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 26, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Change in coaches would work.

Whatever it is, I’m worried it may be too little too late.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 27, 2012 6:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Eyes...bleeding

Comments on Yahoo are making me cry.

Ladd, Versteeg, and Brouwer are all top 6 forwards on their new teams. Buff and Campbell are all top 4 D-men on their new teams.

I’ll give you Campbell. The rest? Ha! Brouwer mostly treated to the Top 6 here…except when he was in the dog house. Ladd? Winnipeg, really? Versteeg? Ok.

Ugh…fucking torture.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 26, 2012 11:15 PM CST reply actions  

Because I enjoy making my eyes bleed too

I checked out what people on Twitter were suggesting to Rogers. No joke, there was a guy that was advocating Kane for Buff + prospects.

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by DMelt36 on Feb 26, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

if i could reach through my computer to give people swirlies, i would totally do it

Optimistic beyond all reason.

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by justforkicks on Feb 26, 2012 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

You're being nice

I would punch them in the face…RE-peatedly

by BodomSlayer on Feb 26, 2012 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Ugh, the way you wrote RE-peatedly reminded me of Edzo.

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 26, 2012 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh man

Just re-read his comment that way. Now I want to punch myself.

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by DMelt36 on Feb 26, 2012 11:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Apologies for pointing it out.

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 26, 2012 11:28 PM CST up reply actions  

wait, what's wrong with that statement?

Maybe they wouldn’t be top6/top4 guys here, but they are on their current teams (not sure about Brouwer, though). That said, I get really annoyed when I hear people say things like “man, they should have kept the team together after the Cup…dumb trades”.

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by LanceFister3 on Feb 26, 2012 11:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Considering who's been in the top 6 this year

I’d beg to differ. You might be right that these guys might not have prevented the slump, but I wouldn’t mind getting any of those guys back if it wasn’t for the salary cap.

by VerStig on Feb 27, 2012 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Understandable

I’m having a miserable time expressing myself tonight. I think I’m going to just lurk rather than comment, lol. As I stated I miss Ladd, and I did like Versteeg. I guess I just get upset whenever people mention ‘bringing the band back together’. It’s just not gonna happen and it makes no sense to worry about it.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 27, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn't mean to jump on you there

I guess I have a little Jesse-like defensiveness of some of our guys from that Cup team… but you are right that it does no good to pine for them since we are not getting them back (and they certainly aren’t the best options out there!). They seem to be doing pretty well with their new teams though, so there’s that.

by VerStig on Feb 27, 2012 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I didn't feel like you did

I’ve just poorly expressed myself all night, no worries. That they do, however, seem to be doing well on their new teams. I was really hoping there would have been some way for us to get Ladd back last summer. Oh well.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 27, 2012 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't sleep on Andrew Ladd

He’d almost certainly be 2nd line LW on this team, or would anchor the 3rd line (like he did in 2010). Plus, I’d say the fact he was named captain of the Thrash less than 2 weeks into his tenure speaks to how he’s viewed in the locker room. We’d be lucky as shit to get him back.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 26, 2012 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Still love Andrew Ladd

And probably always will. Big fan of his.

Never Die Easy.

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by DMelt36 on Feb 26, 2012 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't really mean anything negative on Ladd

Just that if he were on a deeper team he may not be top 6. Of the cup team he is the one I miss the most.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 26, 2012 11:32 PM CST up reply actions  

San Jose Sharks having an equally rough time, apparently.

Just finished a road trip 2-6-1. And now their plane is having technical issues and the team is currently grounded in St. Paul. Ouch.

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by DMelt36 on Feb 26, 2012 11:28 PM CST reply actions  

and their coach got high-sticked and knocked out

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by LanceFister3 on Feb 26, 2012 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

UBI??

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 26, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

he's progressing

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by LanceFister3 on Feb 26, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Same injury as before?

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 26, 2012 11:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if Stan's going to make any move by deadline...

Saw on Twitter that he’s interested in Visnovsky, and honestly, with the way the Leafs season is going, I’d maybe even overpay at this point to get Grabovski to be 2C, unless Stan really thinks they can get something better in the off-season (he’s UFA next season anyways I think) or unless he thinks this season is already toast.

Some change may be all they need to get going. With Toews seemingly gone for at least another game, they need something to kick them into gear.

by ~big_T on Feb 26, 2012 11:45 PM CST reply actions  

I would give up picks for Grabovski. I guess the problem is he’s a UFA and I hear tell he wants over 5mil/yr. Tempting…..

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 26, 2012 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Rumour was Leafs offered 5mil/yr

But not sure how much more he wants except for it’s more than what Kessel’s contract is worth (which is 5.4mil/yr according to capgeek). He’d be a pretty good fit though… not sure of any other decent centre that would be available…

by ~big_T on Feb 26, 2012 11:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard John Scott is versatile

And he’s UFA at the end of this season. And he is big.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 26, 2012 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Q should have showcased his talents at Centre tonight, you know test the market.

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 27, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe he would have played well

And tricked Anaheim into sending is one of their R-P-G members for him? I’d love to see Stan fleece a team with a trade that involves John Scott.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 27, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

any team that gets Scott in a trade

has already been fleeced regardless of what they send back

by pang off the post on Feb 27, 2012 8:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Perhaps he could include a couple ice girls in the deal? Better yet Stan could include himself in the deal.

That would really be fleecing the opposing team.

Stan’s bumbling poor personnel decisions are a reason this team has no depth and also why the Ice Hogs are poor as well.

LOL at Leddy being -14…dragging down whomever Q decides to put out there with him. Maybe we could get a real defenseman if we packaged him in a trade.

Sickening to see Fro’s stats..what a disappointment..20 goals in each of his first two seasons in Florida and useless here and also -10.

Stan sucks.

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

nothing bumbling at all about them

yes he’s misfired (so far) on some of the FA signings during the summer, but let’s take your opinions as gospel – now put on your GM hat and tell us in specific detail what players Stan should’ve acquired by now. And no fantasy league stuff, please – real world scenarios only.

by Waylon on Feb 27, 2012 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I’d have taken the 4.5 million I had in cap space to start this season and started this season with another top 4 D-man.

Tallon made a fool out of him giving up Olesz for Campbell… Bowman should be better than to be raped that badly in a salary dump move.

OK fortunate for Panthers that a healthy Campbell is having a fine season and unfortunate for us that we have two D-men hurt.

Seriously where’s our depth and what has happened to Rockford which used to be a good team?

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

ugh, lets not used rapeas a descriptor plz

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Which top 4 dman?

I can do that too…. I’d have traded campoli for suter. Yay saying things.

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by DesertHawk on Feb 27, 2012 9:24 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Maybe that's why the Hawks lost

Should have dressed Scott!

(I would really like to know what the Hawks’ record is with and without him)

by ~big_T on Feb 27, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

15-12-2 with
18-12-5 without

Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.

by Brion on Feb 27, 2012 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Wednesday is Feb.29. A day that comes around once every four years.

Hawks next game is Wednesday.
Trying to come up with something witty regarding this.
I need help because I’m terribly exposed out here on the ledge and confused too.

Dammit! What am I thinking? That there might be an alignment of the spheres or something to propel the Hawks on a winning streak? That’s vanity desperation.

"It's the Chicago Blackhawks!"

by Hokie Hawk on Feb 26, 2012 11:59 PM CST reply actions  

Nothing that happens on that day counts…..

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 27, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

It is inducing an end life crisis.

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 27, 2012 12:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Not sure I'm buying

the ‘team with this much talent’ mantra any longer. I think we’re seeing the effects of a team with zero depth on either side of the blueline. A concussion outbreak hit the locker room and is piling on top of the hard minutes the core has eaten all season. The ‘stache doesn’t trust any of the depth players.

Teams are rolling 4 lines against this team at will. Today was a little eye-opening. The Ducks, of “Getzlaf line plus Teemu and a bunch of bums” fame were pinning the hawks down consistently up and down the lineup. Can’t remember the last time the Hawks fourth line owned anybody. Probably because it hasn’t had one for much of the season, dressing Scott and double-shifting tired core players to skate with them.

by StretchingTwine on Feb 27, 2012 12:02 AM CST reply actions  

This team has depth and talent.

Third line scoring needs to pick up like it did at the end of last year. I think Bolland, if he’s resigned, will find himself with all new line mates next year. If Frolik doesn’t pick it up I see him being dropped to the forth line, or traded. These guys need to just give some extra effort. Concussions are a problem right now, league wide.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 27, 2012 12:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Bolland is signed for a couple more yrs, I believe

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 27, 2012 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Indeed

I thought he was only given a three year extension like the other RFAs at the time.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 27, 2012 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, and Hjammer sucks right?

I have to agree that we’re getting exposed, very similarly to last year in that we’re just not getting enough from beyond the core (whether by ability or by Q’s treatment, I don’t know). All of our scoring’s been concentrated in our top guys.

CNS brought up a good point yesterday, that Q seemed willing to play the likes of Boynton, Cullimore, Hendry, etc. and for some reason won’t do the same for guys who are better this year (Monty, Lepisto). I really have to wonder what happened.

But I really hope Hjammer comes back soon, I think the D misses him (full disclosure: I missed tonight’s game).

by VerStig on Feb 27, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

This is all very good.

I understand the importance of our big guns but they can’t be relied on all nights and that is where secondary scoring comes in. I’d like to see them fire separately, so to speak, then together all the time. It seems like they score together in bunches…rise and fall together…never able to break out. Does that make any sense?

by BodomSlayer on Feb 27, 2012 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

With the exception of Frolik, I don't really think you can really blame Q's treatment.

Stalberg has been given regular time for several months now and Bickell is back in regular rotation as well.

The guy I want unchained is Jimmy Hayes. No he won’t save our season all by himself – but you can hide his defensive flaws on a line with Sharp and Hossa while he provides the big body those shooters need out front.

by HjammerTime on Feb 27, 2012 12:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I am assuming you are referring to Lepisto. I still think Q has not given him a fair chance. Oh he did play him when 2-3 D went down, but come on to play Scott over Lepisto, makes no logical sense.

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 27, 2012 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure about Lepisto

just based on the eye test,Campoli was better.

anyone besides me get upset with the call on Bolland that gave the Ducks a two man advantage?

by wardrums on Feb 27, 2012 7:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I liked Campoli

and he ate a lot of minutes, which I liked. Lepisto doesn’t pinch as aggressively as Campoli but this team doesn’t necessarily need more defensemen who pinch IMO.

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

yea campoli was better

there is a reason lepisto signed for $775k, but he is pretty good for that price.

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 27, 2012 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Lepisto is fine for that price and I hope he gets some more ice time.

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

disagree

We’re getting enough of scoring from secondary guys. Haven’t looked in the past month, but we were in the top 5 teams in the NHL for secondary scoring and that was at a time when everyone on these boards was complaining about a lack of scoring depth. Since then, our depth has gotten white-hot before cooling off considerably for the big losing streak.

In any regard, the Hawks still have more scoring production across their entire line-up than the Rangers, Pittsburgh or S.J.while having to dress a total of 8 rookies this season.

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

This, by all means, was a brutal game

Hawks were outmuscled, outshot, outplayed in nearly all aspects of the game. And frankly, it just confuses me how this team can go from absolute brillance, to complete rubbish just like that. At the rate we’re going, and with the Avs and Stars fighting their way into contention, we almost don’t even deserve to make the playoffs, and if we do make it and get caught playing Vancouver or Detroit, there’s a good chance its going to be a complete embarrassment.

There’s a couple days left, hopefully we get the help we need right now, or at least start clicking back on all cylinders again. We’ve got the Leafs at home in a couple of days, so I can take some solace in that, hopefully…

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by bmasson11 on Feb 27, 2012 12:06 AM CST reply actions  

Im not going to claim to be an X's and O's guy

but when you explain the power play point men being on their weak sides, thus making D to D passes and keep ins easier, this to me is a bit silly. The hawks power play, as it is built (at least to me) seems to thrive on a few things:

1. The pass down low to whomever is beside the goal looking to pass to the backdoor play if it is open or take the puck strong to the net.

2. Kane on the half wall doing that little curl to face the net and A. pass to an open man or B. shoot as he did tonight.

3. Finally and Most important, getting point shots.

Analysing these things at the moment i get this:

1. The backdoor is closed unless you get lucky against an East team who hasnt seen you. Stop using it, or do one thing(which we saw used to great success against vancouver in 2010 and 2011 playoffs) Have Toews or Hossa or whoever is down their take the puck hard to the net and slam it against the goalies pads or score. This will do one of two things:

A. Force the Defense to collapse and make a play, opening passing lanes. Also there is the option of a well places low shot that finds the back of the net as Goalies usually hug the post with one leg down and one leg still up making it hard to cover the far side of the net.

B. Force the goalie to make a save, creating a scoring chance or a nice rebound, once again forcing the defense to collapse and forgetting about wandering forwards trying to poke a rebound home.

2. At the expense of the idiots who yell shoot, Kane really needs to shoot more. As i’ve seen numerous times this year, Kane has been in pass first mode and is part of the reason why his goal scoring is down and why the power play sucks. Kane has a wicked wrist shot and grade A accuracy, making it hard to stop his shots and give no rebounds. If i’m Sharp, i tell Kane to shoot and set myself up for a possible pass for a One timer, something that is very very lacking in my opinion on the PP.

3. Like i said above, it seems to me that most of the time this year has been watching our point men shoot pucks into legs of defenders. This is where the statement above gets me. A lot of our power play goals come from good point shots and rebounds created by them. Why would they make it harder for our D men to get shots off if it seems to be so important? Its just seems a bit mind boggling to me that they would allow this.

I’m getting kinda pissed at the amount of stupidity and failure of the power play this year. What was the one thing we heard over and over when they played the Flames and Nucks in 2009, and the Nucks again in 2010?

Laugh at them as they parade to the penalty box and watch them cry when we make them pay on the power play.
This is the philosophy of this team and it started when they put Skill ahead of braun. Its what the Redwings have done for the last 15 or so years(this years red wings PP is a bit of an anomaly IMO) and they constantly tell us that they want to model themselves after that organ- i -zation.

From what Ive seen, it seems to me after seeing the Bruins win last year they wanted to change the team to more resemble them, how we heard about more grit, more sandpaper, how to be harder to play against. hey Hawks, make up your mind, you cant have both. Its either Skill or Tomfoolery. If you choose Tomfoolery, you better damn well have Tim Thomas stopping pucks and Chara on the blueline.

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by Kissmyanthia on Feb 27, 2012 12:50 AM CST reply actions  

omg i hate myself i used a

“their” and it should have been “there”

fail

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by Kissmyanthia on Feb 27, 2012 12:51 AM CST up reply actions  

no shit...

I had to flag you for that ;)

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

silly that I brought it up, or silly that the coaches allow it to happen?
but when you explain the power play point men being on their weak sides, thus making D to D passes and keep ins easier, this to me is a bit silly. The hawks power play, as it is built (at least to me) seems to thrive on a few things:

This is the exact opposite of what I was saying. With two Dmen playing on their strong side, keep-ins and D to D passes are easier. But I think we’re in agreement that Dmen playing on their weak side would generate more shots on net from the point.

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by Hack on Feb 27, 2012 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Silly that its allowed to happen

I got the words mixed up a bit, like I said im not a x’s and o’s guy.

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by Kissmyanthia on Feb 27, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I really miss the Hawks that....

were too young to know when to quit. Now it seems that 1 and 2 goal deficits mountains to overcome. Even 1 goal leads there is no confidence, you can feel it at home. What happened mentally to these guys?

I also want to know why they don’t finish more checks. You don’t have to knock them into next week and you don’t have to be a big player to finish your check. I see a lot of playing the puck and not the body when it should be the other way around. There’s been instances when a neutral zone cross ice pass is made and the person making the pass is allowed to continue skating at the same speed meanwhile the defense is crossing over and boom its a 3-2 because the original passer was untouched.

And the final thought that burns my grits is seeing an opposing player in between our D and our goalie, Leddy and Keith are terrible at allowing this, and against the Kings I noticed Seabs on it. You must fight for that real estate. You also do not have to be a big guy to do this. Be pesky, throw as many bumps, pushes, whatever you need to do to make that guys life uncomfortable there and at all costs keep inside position. Too many times i’ll see two opposing players have inside position on our D, it’s unacceptable and somewhat disrespectful to whoever is in net.

Back to my original sentence. Why did in losing Ladd, Eager, Versteeg, Burish and Buff did we lose the ability to WANT IT, to have that hunger. I don’t want to believe that it has anything to do with losing those guys, but I’m starting to see a lot this year that we saw last season. I really hope it doesn’t come down to barely making the playoffs and not waking up until down 3-0 in the first round. There’s my two cents

by ieat_people on Feb 27, 2012 1:15 AM CST reply actions  

It sickens me to feel this way...

…but I think the best thing for the club would be to miss the playoffs.

The kind of colossal collapse from the top of the league just a few months ago to the outside looking in come April is possibly the only signal strong enough to make the kind drastic changes this team needs.

Our core is going nowhere. Our prospects are likely staying put as well. Aside from a revolving door of role-players that will have marginal impact, there is only one major overhaul that can provide the kind of sweeping change this team needs.

The coaching staff needs to be changed.

The PP is unacceptable.

The PK is unacceptable.

The defensive systems in place are either non-existant, or the coaching staff has lost the team to the point that the players simply aren’t performing it. Both possibilities are damning endictments of a coaching staff.

It was fun Q. It’s time to go. I hear Washington might be looking for another new coach come next season, and shiny Stanley Cup rings help ensure a coach is never out of work in the NHL for long.

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by The Antitype on Feb 27, 2012 2:10 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I somewhat agree, but

would like to see how the rest of the season plays out, as a fan I still have hope even though I don’t like what I see. It would absolutely kill me if we missed out on the playoffs.

Also it was mentioned last year by Sam and company how the Penguins were basically down to a minor league team with the injuries they had yet they had been winning 7/8 out of ten games for the last portion of the season. They still believed and had the will to win, the passion to win. We lose Toews and the wheels completely fall off. Aside from that what do we have like 1 road win in the last 2 months?

As for Q, since he still is the coach I’d like to see him show some passion and start yelling behind the bench, maybe light a fire under these guys’ ass instead of having that look on his face like he might be getting whacked after the game. Maybe if the players see more passion in their coaches eyes they will get some on their own.

by ieat_people on Feb 27, 2012 2:36 AM CST up reply actions  

BTW, do ALL the women in Malaysia look like that?

Cause damn. :P

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by The Antitype on Feb 27, 2012 3:48 AM CST up reply actions  

it has nothing to do with toews.

that is the most frustrating thing to hear for me. We were losing with him playing. we won a huge game without him. Is he a huge important piece of our team? yes. Do we win when he’s playing? sometimes. Did we go on a 9 game losing streak with him playing? YES.

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

You missed it that

The roster is unacceptable. Bowman the Younger keeps signing guys who bring their own walkers to practice. The only grit these borderline retirees bring is what they are under the real team’s skates.

by Old Hockey Dog on Feb 27, 2012 7:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Bowman needs to go !! Clueless pompous ass.

It’s not only the old farts he’s signed (Morrison utterly useless) it’s decisions like dumping Campbell (OK he’s overpaid by 1.5 mil or so) and thinking -14 Nick Leddy could replace him. Leddy is still defensively soft and muscled off the puck by big power forwards. He’s missplaced as a defenseman and should be a winger.

Lack of depth is really hurting the Hawks..and where to get players from since Rockford is a poor team as well.

.. slag..looking forward to saving $$$ on playoff tix if this keeps up

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

You like him on defense? OK it takes time to learn to be an NHL top 4 D-man…but this kid is on the ice so often when the puck is in the back of our net. And for Christ’s sake will he ever try to move someone who’s in front of our net.

-14 from a guy who is supposed to be a puck moving D-man which should contribute to our offense is just too much of a liability.

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I do like him on defense

he’s a 20 year old (or is he 21 now?). What do you expect from someone so young?

He was also very solid in the beginning stages of the season. Q skating him 22 minutes per night through December wasn’t going to do him any favors (since he had never played this extended a season, especially at an NHL level). In fact, I predicted back in early November that if Q kept running out the kid as often as he did, that Leddy would hit a massive wall before the ASG.

Leddy will eventually fill out and become a hell of a lot more effective in his own zone.

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

For the good of the team, I hope you’re right and a summer of high calories and protein and weight room work would help Leddy.

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Well...

Shit.

100% Blackhawks Blood.

by DaHawx on Feb 27, 2012 2:36 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Well, guess resting Toews for the playoffs isn't working!

By by season, 19 shots a game, no goalie, no defense, adds up to no hope! Trade’s wouldn’t help now, I hope the young kids can mature fast, for next year I mean.

We just don’t have it this year……… period!

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by John Maydo on Feb 27, 2012 3:49 AM CST reply actions  

as this effort has shown thru the season

I can’t help but think of that fuckin interview last yr where duncs said he didn’t care. I wonder if that’s his deal again this year and if he isn’t alone in the lockeroom. I watched the hawks deflate once again and that’s all I could think about. They don’t care, no desire…

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by DaHawx on Feb 27, 2012 4:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Not playing for Q

They are not playing for Q anymore, You can only scowel at players for so long before they block you out. Teams know our systems and Q hasn’t changed them? I see frustration in Kane and Toews nightly. Q has to go if not for any other reason then bringing in new systems. PK sucks because they sit in a 4 man tight box and watch the slappers come in full speed from the point

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by John Maydo on Feb 27, 2012 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Sad but true and along with Q…fire Kitch as well.

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Deserving has nothing to do w/ anything,

but the way the Hawks are playing noa and have been for over a moth “down the stretch,” they don’t deserve to be in the playoffs.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Feb 27, 2012 6:33 AM CST reply actions  

My concern now is

With today being deadline day, and the Hawks recent funk, that a trade is made more on the funk and a big player is moved out of Chicago for a short term fix.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 27, 2012 6:41 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah, get your point..

..but I’ll say this for Stan: he doesn’t seem like the sort to panic-buy. (crosses fingers, sacrifices neighbours chinchilla)

"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
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by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 6:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Got his father to bounce things off of.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Feb 27, 2012 6:58 AM CST up reply actions  

IMO, Sharp is the only player who is possible -

Kane, Toews, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook aren’t going anywhere.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Feb 27, 2012 6:57 AM CST up reply actions  

He was the player who I was actually thinking of...........

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 27, 2012 6:59 AM CST up reply actions  

sharpy goes and we may see another press conference with kaner in tears

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

as much as I love Kane

and I think he is an extremely unique and gifted player, I won’t look back if the Hawks traded him for the right pieces.

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

ugh can't go there

he has too much potential (still) and there aren’t many players who can do what he does. Only going to get better, hate to see him fulfill his level somewhere else.

by Waylon on Feb 27, 2012 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

btw I do understand those sentiments

if someone made Stan an offer he couldn’t refuse, then as a capable GM he’d have to consider it.

by Waylon on Feb 27, 2012 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

exactly

the team needs to think more 3 dimensionally about what it’ll take to get to the top again and those plans may include a different style of hockey. I’m certainly open to it. Hopefully we can do it with Kaner in the line-up but I’m not going to shut out any possibility of a revamped style of Hawks hockey.

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

i'm just going to go read

this article by sam a few times to clear my eyes.

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

eh for me you can replace miller with anyone and it'd still be silly

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

okay. Replace Miller for Lundqvist or Rinne. I’d make that trade and there’s nothing silly about it.

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Having said that...

I guess what could be construed as silly is thinking those other teams would trade those goalies for Kane.

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

i thought we were talking semi realistic.

chances of lundqvuist being moved are nil. i would trade toews for him to be honest as crazy as that may seem. lundqvuist could take a barrel of monkeysand make them look like a competent team.

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

semi realistic...

you said anyone, which was a bit shocking to me.

I feel that as much as this community wants to disparage others for even proposing a Miller for Kane trade, I don’t think it’s meatheaded at all. I for one wouldn’t make the trade, but it’s a move that could have the biggest payoff for the Hawks in the coming few years (especially if the team can unload Crawford).

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

i forget not everyone is not in my head

i meant anyone who is actually moveable. if we could get lundqvuist i would trade anyone. And for Miller, i don’t think he’s been that great since the olympics even if he’s gone on a short little run now. i don’t think trading a player that isn’t evne in its prime for that isn’t a good/smart move

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Miller has another 5 years of good hockey left...

his position allows for an extended batter life, but yea, he’s not young.

and Miller will be fine. He’s a heck of a goaltender. Battled some injuries early in the season but he looks healthy again.

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm sure but, for me, its still a case of hurting your future for the now. and he doesn't even help the now for us right now

in any case, agree to disagree, except that I would trade anything for lundqvuist in a hot second haha

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

its not even trading them for kane that's silly. its tradingthem period

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I will also be in tears….trading Sharp for anything less than Rick Nash would be a huge blunder.

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

A bit of a reach maybe but how often does lightning strike twice

After Kane scored the pp goal I saw kitchen yapping away in his ear and after that the game flow just wasn’t quite the same. I remember someone mentioning in the dallas wrap up a similar thing happening between kitchen and seabrook right before the first Dallas goal and then things went flying off the rails. I could just be making silly assumptions based on conversations that I’m not a part of hearing.

Now the late 1st period goal by cogliano didn’t help but come on. These guys are professionals and should be able to rebound from that kind of goal. For once this season I’d like to see some fire and brimstone for multiple periods and cover several games. The schedule doesn’t get any easier here on out

Where you goin? Nowhere!

by BlackhawksFan22 on Feb 27, 2012 7:39 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah laaarmer pointed that out

Anyone know how to bug the Blackhawks’ bench?

by VerStig on Feb 27, 2012 8:46 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Tradey stuff..

Caps just put Backstrom on LTIR.. at a stroke they’ve freed up $7.6m of Cap space..

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by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 8:16 AM CST reply actions  

Well, technically

It’s just they’re allowed to add salary equal to the time he missed, but yeah, that’s gotta be significant. They’ve got room to add.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 8:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Apologies

Don’t know what the internet did to my comment, but what I was trying to say was, it’s not exactly cap space, they just get to exceed the cap by the amount of time and salary Backstrom goes on LTIR. They can add this season, but they have to be careful or they could end up having to jettison salary next season.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 8:22 AM CST up reply actions  

yup.. they're still right against the Cap..

so a high value Rental Centre for Ovie or, if they manage to dump Semin’s salary, does this put them into, say AWT Nash territory? Don’t take any of this seriously

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by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Semin for Nash could be an interesting trade scenario

What else do we have to do but rosterbate at this point?

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

especially as SN are talking about Olli Jokinnen

and his $4 mill value

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by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

and good morning, Elvis!

what’s the scuttlebut around the Sharks and trades?

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by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

We've officially asked about James Van Riemsdyk

We offered Niemi, and the Flyers said no.

Real surprise both in terms of player asked for and player offered. But Doug Wilson is notoriously tight lipped about our moves. I suspect this was a feeler to find out who and what could be had for what price.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Tru dat..

strange sort of a deal, there.. what’s the feeling among the fans: are moves needed or ist he team just in a slump and has the pieces already?

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by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 8:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Injuries are killing us

At the moment, Douglas Murray is out with that throat injury, meaning Colin White has become a regular feature in the lineup. Let’s just say I’d consider trading for John Scott to get him back in the press box. Marty Havlat is still injured and grass is still green, meaning there’s a gaping hope in the top 6. We’ve had some of our AHLers come in and contribute up there, but that’s hardly a real solution.

Our third and fourth lines are a bit patchwork because of all the shuffling.

We traded a 2nd round pick for Dominic Moore who broke his foot in his 2nd game with us. What are you going to do?

The biggest issue with the team right now is goaltending. It hid a lot of problems early in the season, and it’s been very subpar as of late.

If we were healthy, I’d say we’d stand pat, but I think we’ll be looking for another D-man today, maybe another forward.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

this sounds...

..strangely familiar..

any targets in mind?

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"Hit it"

by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I really don't know

What with our cap situation, I don’t see how we can make any real impact moves. We can trade for depth, which is nice. I just don’t know if it’s enough.

At the end of the day, our season rests on whether Nemo can remember he doesn’t suck at goaltending, and if our team remembers that when you’re on defense, the goal is to stop goals. To do this, you can’t just back up.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Sportsnet are reporting

offer made by SJ & Toronto for Nash..

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by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Because they're not insane

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I know most people around here don't like basketball but...

The Rangers remind me of the Bulls. One of the most sound defensive teams in the league with excellent coaching but I’m not sure they’ve got the offense to get past the conference finals and then the SCF.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 27, 2012 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

They have Richards and Gaborik

And they’re getting contributions up and down the lineup.

Lundqvist finally has a competent D-corp in front of him.

All they have to do is get hot. They’re a pretty solid lock for home ice, and they’ve got pretty favorable matchups in round 1, probably even round 2. All they really have to do is stay healthy for round 3.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Like I said, like the Bulls

Who only need to concern themselves with the Miami Heat. We’ll see if they’ve got the firepower to get past that.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 27, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Very apt comparison

I just don’t see anyone in the East playing the role of Miami. It’s ultra competitive out there. And I think the Rangers have just as much offense as anyone else.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

As uninterested as I was in Pats-Giants

A Rangers-Bruins ECF would have me glued to the TV.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

rangers are helped

by the fact that Lundy is a hockey god and they have amazing coaches. Their line-up, while very good, isn’t as deep as one would think from a top 3 team.

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

i don't know, every game may be a ridiculous low scoring affair (though its kind of picked up) but

except for a handful of blips, rangers are a team that just won’t give up with a goalie that will keep them in even if they don’t deserve it. Also think they are a team that can rely on all 4 lines basically and their d is pretty great.

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

they look pretty dangerous to me

I’m no expert – but anyone with that kind of goaltending and D can go all the way this year – they could win a lot of 2 – 1 games in the playoffs.

by Waylon on Feb 27, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

from what i've heard they'd have to give up pieces they don't want to

at this point they’d prob be willing to drop dubi, but not dz or other members of their d

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

or actually i think they asked for one of their top prospects, which no

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by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

We've discussed Nash to death on FTF

I think the consensus is, he costs us Pavelski, therefore, no thank you. He’s a great player, but he has one of the worst contracts in the league. We traded Dany Heatley away because his contract was only slightly bad. Nash is basically the same player, slightly younger, with an even worse contract. The move makes no sense.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

In terms of physicality and pure goal scoring?

Sure, I’ll buy that. But at the end of the day, he’s a scoring winger. Heatley was a scoring winger (albeit very injured with us). Functionally, Heatley and Nash are the same player, with equally craptastic contracts. Heatley was traded for purely financial reasons, so I don’t see why we’d bring in Nash.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I see that too..

Or Nemo & another core player.. you have to look at what Columbus need (a lot) in return and also, of course, that hideous contract.

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by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Columbus needs about 5 amnesty clauses for current contracts

A new general manager and a real live NHL goaltender before we can even consider them anything but a steaming coil of dog shit.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 27, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

or a small tactical nuclear strike

"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"

by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Spot on !! LOL I have a friend who lives there and sometimes it is hard to give away tickets unless a really popular team is in town.

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Flyers need JVR lots more than another top goalie and I really don’t think Greiss can carry the load for the Sharks. If you want JVR, offer Havlat before he’s inhured again.

.. slag ..

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

If Philly was dumb enough to give us JVR for Havlat

I would eat cheese steaks everyday for the rest of my life.

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by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Stranger in a strange land...

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 27, 2012 8:20 AM CST reply actions  

Someone needs to handcuff Wysh

or reduce his caffeine intake. He’s going to take someone’s eye out.

"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"

by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 8:32 AM CST reply actions  

whoever it was here that said to try for nabby - no go
As per @DarrenDreger, NYI are now taking offers on P.A. Parenteau. But not goalie Evgeny Nabokov. #TradeCentre #tsn

Optimistic beyond all reason.

"Spend a few thousand million years in a job and eventually you get promoted, I have my own bucket now. Finally, I am somebody." - Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

I wonder what they could get for Nabakobv...

because the Islanders don’t really need more young talent at this point. They are extremely stacked with prospects at every position, including goalie. May not be a terrible idea to keep the veteran leadership he brings.

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Huet update

Fribourg made the playoffs as the 3rd seed, 2 pts out of first in the leauge, with the league’s most regulation wins. Read an article last night, apparently Huet is the most popular player on the team. He finished the season with a .931 Sv%. The series starts on 3/1 and the 7th game is scheduled for 3/15 if it goes that long.

I doubt Huet is an option now, if he ever was, especially if Fribourg goes on to the next round.

Hawks will likely need to make do with what they have. Even with other holes being filled, I doubt this team goes far without improved goaltending. In fact, I’m sure of it.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 27, 2012 8:50 AM CST reply actions  

that's awesome news for huet.

continues to be sucky news for us. do you think hutton (or salak) ever get called up?

Optimistic beyond all reason.

"Spend a few thousand million years in a job and eventually you get promoted, I have my own bucket now. Finally, I am somebody." - Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

all but assured

during the cup year when Huet and Niemi were taking turns crapping the bed they brought up crawford for a start. It seems like Hutton had a pretty decent run while Salak was hurt.

by pang off the post on Feb 27, 2012 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

past few years we've had our rookies come up and steal the show. never know what can happen.

if it follows history, he’ll come in this year and do stellar, and then crap the bed next season

Optimistic beyond all reason.

"Spend a few thousand million years in a job and eventually you get promoted, I have my own bucket now. Finally, I am somebody." - Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Crawford got brought up

because Huet caught a really horrendous flu bug in California.

by Katherine215 on Feb 27, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

flu bug or "flu bug"

Optimistic beyond all reason.

"Spend a few thousand million years in a job and eventually you get promoted, I have my own bucket now. Finally, I am somebody." - Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

No, an actual flu bug.

He was sick as a dog, I remember quotes from him that he was super weak and could barely get out of bed.

If I’m remembering correctly, Crawford got caught way out of net trying play the puck and gave up an empty net goal against. I think that was the Anaheim game Seabs got hurt Wiz’d too.

by Katherine215 on Feb 27, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

oh boy that's a bad run for everyone involved

Optimistic beyond all reason.

"Spend a few thousand million years in a job and eventually you get promoted, I have my own bucket now. Finally, I am somebody." - Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Yup. We're in pretty deep.

I didn’t see the 2nd and 3rd periods last night and I’m not about to watch them on my DVR at this point. Hopefully Quenneville rides Crawford mostly for the rest of the way so we can see what this full season entails for him. It’s looking pretty much like a sure thing that we’re a bottom 4 of the playoffs team in the West. We would need a run of about 13 of the next possible 16 points to even consider having a first round home ice advantage.

My primary concern at this point is that the team does not rush either Hjalmarsson or Toews (especially 19) back from their head injuries… if that’s what they are. Having to type that disclaimer pissed me off. Just don’t rush them back, please.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 27, 2012 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

did we ever hear more about this

3 year extension he’s apparently signed with Fribourg?

"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"

by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I only read that he wanted to stay there

and only wants to play hockey for a couple more years and then retire. Has no interest in playing any longer than that.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 27, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

"Ou est les Huet's d'antan?"

"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"

by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Really?

Rocky’s writing the checks. Fuck the puny Swiss league.

We like our people!
"fair" can eat shit.

by cliffkoroll on Feb 27, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

from bob mckenzie
Not confirmed, but hearing very strong rumors of Andrei Kostitsyn to NSH.

Optimistic beyond all reason.

"Spend a few thousand million years in a job and eventually you get promoted, I have my own bucket now. Finally, I am somebody." - Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

by justforkicks on Feb 27, 2012 9:09 AM CST reply actions  

Sounds like a done deal at this point

Just waiting on terms

GO SHARKS!

They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn

Changing signatures is for suckers.

What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.

by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

btw surprised to hear you guys shopping Nemo

is he expendable because the back – up is considered to be starter – quality now, or are there prospects coming up that are highly regarded as well?

by Waylon on Feb 27, 2012 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm of the opinion

Thomas Greiss is never going to be a starter on a contender. I think shopping Nemo at this point is just trying to gague the market. Nemo’s been pretty bad this month, but before that, he was keeping us in games we shouldn’t have been in.

We have a frak-ton of goalie prospects, but none of them are ready yet.

GO SHARKS!

They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn

Changing signatures is for suckers.

What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.

by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

if they pulled that off they'd really be serious

have to give the Preds credit for going on all in – would love to see them make it all the way (but only if we don’t).

by Waylon on Feb 27, 2012 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

yea

Go Nashville (if we suck and lose)

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

ZOMG! HAWKS TALKING D TRADES WITH THE JETS!!!

…for Johnny Oduya

GO SHARKS!

They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn

Changing signatures is for suckers.

What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.

by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:28 AM CST reply actions  

sounds about right

the only rumours I see always involve some team willing to trade a rental like Ruutu for something like Saad and McNeil (top draft picks performing quite well already). Which is completely insane, if true.

by Waylon on Feb 27, 2012 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

well that's even worse then

no way we should take on a contract for a player like that – like him a lot still, but too much wear and tear. No thank you.

by Waylon on Feb 27, 2012 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Nashville now scarier

got themselves their very own pair of brothers…

"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"

by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 9:37 AM CST reply actions  

possibly for the rights to Radulov? oy vey!

Next time anyone feels bad about our GM, imagine being a Montreal fan

"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"

by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

imagine being a Montreal fan

I’m having a hard time being that entitled

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They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn

Changing signatures is for suckers.

What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.

by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

imagine it in French, that helps.

"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"

by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Being a Montreal fan could be the only thing worse than being a Hawks fan right now.

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

You could be a Sharks fan...

GO SHARKS!

They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn

Changing signatures is for suckers.

What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.

by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

It can’t be that bad..although ur team is slumping as well.

I was a Shark’s fan for one game last season watching game 7 win vs Detriot and trying to teach the section I was in to scream “Detriot Sucks!!” like we do at the UC.

.. slag ..

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

They are going to have to keep their eyes on organized crime in NSH with those two reunited.

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 27, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Should we anticipate a Montreal Fire-Sale?

I think Gauthier will be seking employment (as will Cunneyworth) after this season. So, do they strip it all down and start again (aside from the Price/Subbans) of this world? Abd does this mean we can expect Campoli back in Chicago?

"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"

by mightymike D on Feb 27, 2012 9:44 AM CST reply actions  

yeah

Malcom Subban

This is Hack in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.

Second City Hockey

by Hack on Feb 27, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Only if it was this Malcolm

GO SHARKS!

They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn

Changing signatures is for suckers.

What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.

by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Very wrong

But the dude can play. At least, he can play against the Sharks. I can’t stand his diving ass, but he always kills us.

GO SHARKS!

They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn

Changing signatures is for suckers.

What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.

by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

He always seems to annoy us too….I'm sensing a trend here.

I really don’t care if he is a major league asshole – this Hawks team could use a prick or two now that Burish and Versteeg are gone….Ott or Ribero would do nicely.

by HjammerTime on Feb 27, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

unless they (Dallas) covet Michael Frolik and Sami Lepisto

I can’t imagine that they’d deal us either of those two players while they are fighting with the Hawks for a playoff spot.

This is Hack in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.

Second City Hockey

by Hack on Feb 27, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree.

I’m daydreaming again… although I’d be willing to send a prospect like Morin or Pirri away if it was Ribero coming back our way.

by HjammerTime on Feb 27, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

We had a prick but he blew out his knee with a stupid boarding penalty.

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure it means nothing

As they’ll just put up different banners

GO SHARKS!

They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn

Changing signatures is for suckers.

What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.

by ElvisVF101 on Feb 27, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

It's that fucking Dallas game

That’s still stuck in my craw.

We like our people!
"fair" can eat shit.

by cliffkoroll on Feb 27, 2012 10:36 AM CST reply actions  

join the club

This is Hack in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.

Second City Hockey

by Hack on Feb 27, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe the worst loss of the year.

Started thinking maybe we’d see our first shutout. Didn’t say it out loud, just thought it. Whatever. My expectations are pretty low at this point.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 27, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

shutout jinx

I don’t do GDTs, but I’m guessing for the most part folks stay on the right side of the whole “shutout jinx” thingee.

What has it gotten us? I propose we reverse course and harp on the possibility of a shutout repeatedly every night until it is blown.

Thoughts?

I for one would love to see a leap day shutout of the Leafs Wednesday.

We like our people!
"fair" can eat shit.

by cliffkoroll on Feb 27, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I've said this several times before...

I’m not superstitious but I am a little stitious. The so-called shutout jinx is a joke at this point. I agree, it wouldn’t hurt to start talking about shutout at the beginning of every game. (I typically don’t do the GDT either but have jumped in a little lately just to help ease the stress.)

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 27, 2012 5:57 PM CST up reply actions  

yep

the final 15 minutes were jolt to my system.

by aeroplane on Feb 27, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Definitely hard to process the events that unfolded in that game.

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 27, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

What happened in that 3rd period vs Stars..well Hossa’s bad position meant that he got neither body no puck from a pinching D-man along the boards and once again the puck ended up in our net. Then, once again, the wheels came off.

Just when it seemed everyone was buying into playing team defense that disaster happened.

by slagwater on Feb 27, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Hossa made a bad play, but as usual the Hawks had multiple chances to clear that puck before that.
FUCK. It’s maddening.

Kill the body and the head will die.

by Where's my Javelina?! on Feb 27, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

didnt the same thing happen with Dallas last year?

seems like it did. We were up like 3 to 0 in the game then lost…

by Hawks Rasta on Feb 27, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

This is just a re-run of last season

The “give a crap meter” looks like at an all time low with our players.

by Hawks Rasta on Feb 27, 2012 12:40 PM CST reply actions  

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