Morning Links - (2/3)
by JuliaM on Feb 3, 2012 10:00 AM CST
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PrintBlackhawks news and hockey notables.
- Recaps. [nhl.com] [Tribune] [ESPN] [CSN] [Cheer the Anthem] [Hockeenight]
- BMo's looking forward to a Cup run. [Tribune]
- There must be a renewed focus on defense. [ESPN]
- Counting on Keith and Seabrook isn't going to be enough. [ESPN]
- A new episode of Third Man In Radio should sufficiently distract. [Third Man In]
- Several Blackhawks players and concepts finished high in the hockey superlative rankings of The Hockey News. [Tribune]
- Cimaglia brings the reality check. [MyFoxChicago]
- Hawks/Flames preview. [Tribune] [nhl.com]
- The clock error controversy of the recent Kings/Blue Jackets game might be a bigger deal than previously thought. [GlobeSports] [SI.com]
- Brian Burke thinks the wind has changed and an openly gay NHLer wouldn't have as tough a time of it. [CBC]
- Some things you do for money, and some you do for fun, but the things you do for love... E's old and yet always timely piece on stats, love, and the different ways to be a hockey fan. [Theory of Ice]
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“In Crawford’s younger days he was guilty of overplaying the puck and losing his net. Thursday night the same was true.” Not much more to add to that.
while I know you're just joking
I should clarify that the links issue yesterday was our (Hack +TOS) fault, and not Julia’s.
If you guys haven’t figured it out yet, SCS and Julia rotate their links posts, and Thursday would have been SCS’s turn.
We’re currently working on finding a replacement for SCS, and hopefully we’ll be ready to go for next week.
This is Hack in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.
There were links in yesterdays post
I almost created a fan post but then I got lazy…
I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
you did a good job of that too, Jrs!
/nudges job application across desk
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Giving up on even-handedness & politeness. Going for open contempt & disdain.
your gif in the post game thread got me in trouble at work
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
sorry...
why?
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Giving up on even-handedness & politeness. Going for open contempt & disdain.
someone saw it
OBVIOUSLY not work related, even though Im done with actual work for today
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
alt+tab, man!
alt+tab!
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Giving up on even-handedness & politeness. Going for open contempt & disdain.
I always keep my internet surfing on half screen at work.
now it probably does nothing but make me look suspicious when I quickly click away but whatever
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
Last night was the last straw for me
regarding Foley and Edzo at least when they are together. Listening to them has gotten just embarrassing except when it’s actively irritating. Separately they’re each now sometimes good and sometimes bad, but when paired up — no, no more.
I’ll look into rigging up the radio feed or something else on the TV, but failing that, silence will be an upgrade. I can follow the action better on my own than while being distracted by their idiocy anyway.
by Paul the Fossil on Feb 3, 2012 10:15 AM CST reply actions
I really wish the radio/tv feeds were synched so I could listen to John and Troy
Olczyk was a complete embarrassment last night.
From Jesse Rogers' Twitter feed:
@youngtinman: @ESPNChiHawks did the hawks give the belt to gagner last night?
Might as well have. Sigh.
I feel like
the hawks, post cup win, lost the need to prove themselves. They don’t come into each game with a ‘fuck you’ attitude.
The ability to play to Vancouver’s level, then get trounced by EDM, then take it to SJS (circus trip)…. there are preparation errors here. It isn’t as if the skill level of the team is fluctuating.
Certainly, there are netminder issues. I’m as big a fan of Craw as anyone, but holy shit some of his play is ugly. However, there are just as many issues in front of the net as in the net.
And i don’t want to make veiled tilts at calling on the coaching. I feel like it is the coach’s fault. Poor PP with all-star talent? For years? I watch the Penguin’s PP and wish we looked like that.
I certainly called out the coaching when the lineups were announced
You are playing one of the fastest teams in the NHL and you dress Bickell and Scott?
I'll learn ya right now.
Scott has a ‘presence’ out there. Has a long reach, is good in the puck area and makes ‘direct plays.’
Don’t question.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
Yes you can't question a future hall of fame coach
Still pisses me off that he said that. I’m just pissed off in general today. I need a fucking drink since 0, yes i said that 0 last night
I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
Oh that John Scott
Had a mind numbing discussion with a Scott loving meatball on Twitter yesterday. He adds “toughness” and is there to make sure the other team doesn’t take any liberties with our stars.
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Feb 3, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
even a rational person can see that Jammer has that role taken care of
and is damn good at hockey. or at least his role in hockey.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 3, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
I mentioned
Seabs, Jammer, Montador, hell even Bolland and asked if he didn’t think they were tough. His response? “those guys aren’t scrappers. Love mayer’s but he takes a couple games off here and there and obviously isn’t as feared as Scott.”
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Feb 3, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
mayers takes games off?
i suppose playing 50 games out of the year for 2 minutes each is better than. god damnit
by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 3, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
who said that?
Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^
by TazerNation19 on Feb 3, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Read above
Scott loving meatball on Twitter
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Feb 3, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Technically he's right about Scott being feared.
In the sense that nobody in their right mind will fight him. A handful of superheavies and the odd shmuck that gets caught in his cross hairs.
In a sense, he’s too feared to be an actual on ice deterrent.
You are next.
by M7 on Feb 3, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
This seems like overanalysis
The Hawks were comfortably in control until Taylor Hall’s goal. It was a 3-3 game heading into the third. It was 5-4 with 14 minutes left. Where have I heard this before: If you don’t have goaltending, you got no shot.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
So, is time to start worrying about Crow?
Doh!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
I'm kind of torn about who to "blame" for the PP
Yes, the coaches design the plays or whatever they do and determine the personnel. But I just don’t understand how 4 or 5 of the most talented players on our team – and some of them, in the league – can’t make the plays work.
by Katherine215 on Feb 3, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
RIGHT?!
Why is this so difficult for them? I feel like talent alone should make it not so ugly looking.
by Katherine215 on Feb 3, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Not that easy
When Crosby was healthy, Penguins had a very average power play routinely finishing in the bottom half of the league.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
I was watching a penguins game recently
their powerplay looked threatening, and structured. They got it in the zone, and they were moving the puck and looking for an opportunity.
we can’t even get it set up. It appears to me that there is just no structure at all.
Notice I said when Crosby was healthy
i.e. a couple years ago.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Why does that happen though?
Too much talent all wanting the puck? Different scheme or whatever?
by Katherine215 on Feb 3, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
They use a flawed strategy (or two)
and keep running it out there hoping for a different result.
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Albert Einstein: "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"
Critical juncture
The 2011-12 Blachawks are at a critical juncture.
1. Keith, Seabrook and Hjalmarsson are not enough on defense. Regardless what Foley wants to say, the bottom line is Leddy is in over his head and needs to be moved down to a 3rd pairing. Montador is a bucket of shit. And yes, Campbell is severely missed. Meaning Bowman get off his ass and acquire a legitimate top 4 d-man. Regardless if he needs to give up a king’s ransom to acquire the right guy. This team goes NOWHERE without a major piece added on defense.
2. The powerplay is awful. It just is. Again, the loss of Campbell has been a big blow in this regard. But bottom line the PP is abysmal despite the multiple attempts at re-working.
3. The PK is awful. It is the stuff you’d expect to see in Columbus or Winnipeg.
4. A complementary forward group that is awful on defense. Get beyond the core of Hossa, Toews, Bolland, Kane and Sharp then you expect the other 7 guys to be consistently reliable in two-way play. Other than Frolik, the group left is NOT. And problems are magnfied by the fact that Kane is liability on defense while Sharp a non-factor. This team doesn’t get remotely enough backcheck and two-way play out of the mix of Bickell, Shaw, Brunette, Morrison (ugh in this regard) and especially Stalberg. Frolik is okay and Mayers important in other ways. It’s a big problem when you are too thin on defense and not strong enough in goal.
5. Crawford is an okay goalie. Not a good goalie. Not a goalie who can stand on his head and carry a team. And unless team defense and the PK significantly improves in front of him, then this team ain’t going anywhere with Crawford as the backstop.
===
So what to do?
1. Bowman needs to get a deal done quickly. Overpay to get what you need on defense. The organizational depth is there and the cap flexibility decent enough.
2. Dump Bickell on anybody who will take him.
3. Call back Jimmy Hayes and let him learn how to play two-way hockey on the fly. He can’t be worse than what is being delivered by the aforementioned in this regard.
4. Tell Foley and Edzo to stuff the non-stop Stephan Waite fallatio. Crawford is NOT technically sound to the degree the announcer crew keeps telling us that Waite tells them.
5. Bench Crawford the rest the trip and reevaluate in 14 days.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Uhh, yeah.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
by HjammerTime on Feb 3, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
.......it's 27th in the league.
bottom 5 is pretty much the definition of awful.
by Katherine215 on Feb 3, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
and the PP is 18th
one went 6/7 the other night (against a 21% PP) and the other 0-fer
by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 3, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
the PK got buried statistically in the first month or two during that rough stretch
its been much better recently
by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 3, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Still maddening to watch
They never clear out any screeners in front of the net and it feels like, compared to opponents’ PK, there is a lot more space in the zone.
by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Feb 3, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Good God
The PK is greatly inferior to what shall be required for final 20 game sprint and playoffs. It is wretched to be more precise.
Also, Duncan Keith cannot POSSIBLY continue to log the ridiculous number of shifts and minutes that accumulates. This team is playing with 3 real defenseman. Leddy is not prepared to be a top 4 contributor and is being brutalized way too much on the ice. Montador is a bucket of shit. O’Donnell an old man who maybe can give you 10 minutes for 2 out of 3 games.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Your comments are like a giant black cloud
Just jump already.
by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 3, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
I cant believe Im saying this
but he is kinda right on some of that stuff. I think Leddy is fine, but theres a depth issue at D. The Kill does indeed need to be better (remember when Van just completely plowed through our Kill and it won the game for them)? Some of that stuff needs to be addressed by the suits before the playoffs roll around. I think this team can still kick some ass in a series as it stands, but I think it would be easier if there are improvements to those areas.
Oh, and score on the powerplay more. Thats why its there.
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist
by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
He has a few valid points
It’s the manner in which their brought about that drives me crazy.
by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 3, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
The authority with which they are pronounced is what pisses people off, I think.
Also, benching Crawford for 14 days is fucking stupid.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
work on ignoring the manner
and focusing on the content. discuss the content, not the manner.
it takes practice, but it helps with sanity.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Giving up on even-handedness & politeness. Going for open contempt & disdain.
I drink to help with sanity
though…I did do an Eddie Belfour on the railing of my porch with a broom last night while I was drinking….
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
I'm trying to figure out what an Eddie Belfour on your porch railing would be...
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Giving up on even-handedness & politeness. Going for open contempt & disdain.
Eddie went batshit on his net once with his stick
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Once?
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 3, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
im thinking of the famous one that shows up in highlight vids
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
That's one of the things I loved about that guy.
He played angry every game.
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 3, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
We allow the most shots against in the league on the PK
Seeing as our goaltending is [pick your own word] it’s probably not good that we allow a ton of shots to get to the cage.
by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 3, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, that's not good but...
This season on PK, 56 ShotsAgainst/60
Last season, 54 ShotsAgainst/60
Not much of a difference between 54 and 56 when the best team only allows 39. The problem was there last season too. And Leddy didn’t play on the PK last year. Keith’s GA/60 on the PK is just as high as Leddy’s.
“Leddy” is too easy of an answer (I know you didn’t say it, I’m just making a general statement). Although I agree he shouldn’t on the PK, is it more a problem with personnel or is it the system?
The fact that Keith’s numbers are just as bad suggests the problem is much larger. One player should not, and does not, have that kind of effect on the dismal numbers. And the top forwards have been pretty much the same as they were in 2010. Toews, Bolland, Hossa, Sharp. Kruger and Mayers get PK time, but they’ve done well.
I guess if they bring in a PK D-man, we’ll have our answer?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Hal Gill, baby
Less shots on net is still a good thing. No matter what. Can’t score if it doesn’t get there.
Even strength is a whole other story of course. Gill would at least be better than Odie.
by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 3, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
A systems problem
on the hawks special teams?
no fucking way!
CNS's "No Commenter Left Behind" program...
- Campbell barely played on the PP last year.
- Kane was a MONSTER defensively last night. The little crack head was stealing pucks like nose candy from a baby. At that rate, he’ll be dead by 40.
- Yeah, have Hayes “learn” how to play defense on the fly. I’m on it. Memo to Stan sent, along with a post script to trade Kane.
- The PK was great last night. They could have just as easily scored 3 shorties. Crow gave up a softie. The Hawks were net 0 for the night even though they were shorthanded 7 times.
- Bickell. Bickell. Bickell.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Bickell Bickell Bickell
is actually kind of fun to say
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like the start of the Dreidel song
Is Bickell made out of clay too?
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."
by CementHeadStu on Feb 3, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Crow gave up... a couple softies.
Pretty much at this point, if you go in wide against Craw and circle the net, you’ll have yourself a wide open goal to shoot at. He’s like a magnet getting pulled behind the net only to get hung up on the pipe and unable to get back.
Even if Emery’s hip is 1/4 as bad as they say it is, being positionally sound with limited mobility has to trump being totally out of position. Donnit?
surprise surprise guess what i'm commenting on
but its funny (but not surprising) that you call out Kane on being a liability on the ice after a game when he was a monster defensively and also the best player on the ice for the hawks.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
Anybody remember when were were on the bubble last year
How many lost points to Edmonton did we have?
Two home losses to Edmonton
The Oilers have kicked the living piss out of the Hawks two seasons straight.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
its a weird phenomenon
of all teams, why is it them that owns us and not Detroit, or Van, or SJ.
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
I guess it's better
But I’d feel better if looking at the GAA against the Oilers for the year wasn’t like reading my golf handicap.
I agree.
The defense was horrible last night but the only goalie who has given me any ounce of confidence this year has been emery.
Clearly the defense didn’t do enough to stop the flip shots from Barker and Hall. Nor did they do enough to make sure Crawford could stay on his feet. Or to make sure Crawford didn’t try to pile drive Hall with his blocker and forgetting about the puck.
Yup, defense was horrible.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
Umm, did you watch the game?
The oilers danced around the hawks like no tomorrow. Crawford was weak and let in softies (as I am admitting) but if you don’t think that was some bad defense I urge you to watch any other team play the oilers.
Nope didn't watch
That’s why I didn’t see the Hawks completely dominate the first and opening half of the second only to see Crawford let the Oil back in, then battle back to tie it only to see two more awful goals in, then make it 5-4 with 14 minutes left only to see that rally snuffed out.
Even with the defense the Hawks played last night which you claim to be horrible, it should’ve been 3-0 heading into the third. I’m not sure what else can realistically be expected of them with the quality of goals Crawford allowed last night.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
Corey is the number one point of blame, I totally agree there.
You don’t think the total lack of awareness while taylor hall sneaks behind the defense has anything to do with the players in front of crawford?
how about giving the oilers a 2 on 1 when it was a 3 on 2?
Again, Taylor Hall snuck behind
and Seabrook still caught him and held him to a harmless shot that went in. They can play that aggressive style of defense when their goalie is pulling his weight. But if they’re going to get ECHL-type goaltending, they might as well only forecheck two guys and keep three guys at the red line.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
It has nothing to do with an aggressive forecheck.
And everything to do with bad defensive decisions in and around their own end.
I mean the oilers have a good pp but just look at the way they worked the puck through the hawks box at will. It was a total joke.
It has to do with how aggressive their d can play in the offensive zone
and in the neutral zone. When they’re too concerned about flying around their own crease to protect any kind of shot, it affects everything. And all of that type of play started after Hall’s goal.
Hawks PK went 6 for 7 against one of the best PP’s in the league. That was probably the least of their problems last night.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
speaking of that
how the hell is their PP so good?
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Not letting the d off the hook.
Halls goal should have been stopped but that is not weak enough where the blackhawks should be that mentally affected. If that was the case the hawks really need to get some mental issues straightened up.
That pp created momentum that led to the hawks demise.
So it was the mystical momentum that did them in
The Boston Bruins defense wouldn’t have fared any better last night with that type of goaltending. It’s not being mentally affected by a soft goal; it’s having to completely change your style of play mid-stream because you don’t want to give up any kind of shot on goal.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
I just feel like that is letting the team off the hook.
Crawford is the guy that I am primarily pointing at but 8 goals and 41 shots, I have to look at the defense a bit too (despite the amount of powerplays the oilers had).
Some nights it probably is
but last night was not one of them. It’s ok to pin the blame solely on the goalie sometimes. That was a Steve Passmore-like performance for Crawford last night, totally unacceptable.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
God I remember passmore.
Okay, I’ll concede to you here. Maybe since toskala left the leafs I forget how much goaltending can impact a team negatively.
Good news is I think the team is confident in emery (at least they should be).
didnt one of those PPs register like 7 shots too?
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
oh the D was bad
I actually think the inconsistency at the blue line is a bigger concern than Corey Crawford down the stretch. But, truth be told, Crow is not that great. I defended him a lot, but I thought he would improve his positioning, and he hasnt really. He lets a lot past him, and hes bailed out by one of forward corps in the league on the scoreboard. That kind of goaltending in a place like columbus, and his record would not be so pretty, and they’d probably be calling him “Mason 2.0”.
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist
by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
How many people were concerned with the D last night when it was 2-0?
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
until Hall scored
fixed.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Crow was beyond not great, he was horrid.
But come on, the defense was bad too.
im not just talking last night, I think after a while their "give-a-fuckitude" went to zero
we’ve seen them be a brick wall one night then be nonexistent the next. I think thats a lack of depth at D. We dont need a superstar, but someone serviceable back there who can log some minutes and move the puck well would be nice to have.
I guess what I’m saying is I kind of miss having Brian Campbell.
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
That's two different debates
I agree there’s a lack of depth on the season. But last night was not the d’s fault, nor were they playing poorly until the Hall goal.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 3, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
It's funny because one of Sam's phrase's went through my head
“Corsi looked like porn” I think it was a game against… aww heck I can’t remember. But last night, before the Hall goal, I was thinking that if this kept up, we’d have more Corsi pr0n. Then Hall scored a goal that the Hawks themselves almost never, ever score. And the bed was shat.
I believe the Hawks were +23 as a team last night
Now keep your hands where we can see em.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
one of the best*
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
or get Corey a a landing net for Muskie instead of a glove
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
It always comes back to fishing with you...
Crawford would miss the puck with that too I think.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
fishing net and a riot shield
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So the Hawks are trading Crow to Vancouver?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
do we get Schnieder?
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Schneider and Edler
For Crawford, Bickell, Montador and Mike Gillis’ sanity
Dats a good trade right der my frents
by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 3, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
You think that is funny.
Read the NM site awhile ago and they wouldn’t trade Edler for Toews. The four guys they wouldn’t trade for Toews were the twins, Kesler and Edler. Even reminding them the difference in ages wouldn’t get them to budge.
wouldnt trade Kesler to get Jonathan Toews?
the fuck are these people smoking…wait, its BC, nevermind, I know what they are smoking
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by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
That's why I can't go over there.
VCD and Missy and others seem like nice enough people. But holy crap. They’d pass on Edler for Toews? That’s just… wow.
Edler could be great
possibly 60+ point plus great. That is a hard thing to trade..even for a monster for Toews.
Lead writer of nothing, commenter on everything.
He could be
He could not be. All I’m saying is, Johnny T. is a proven commodity. He’s bred to win and has done it at every level, usually while being the best player on the ice. Great two way player, great captain, ridiculous hockey IQ. The only player I’d consider trading him for would be a healthy Crosby, and even then it’d be a tough choice (but that’s my bias speaking).
by Ban on Feb 3, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
It is so damn frustrating.
He was so good last year. I feel like a blue jackets fan.
waylon'd
I feel like he’ll be good again. He’s just run out of rope and points to be able to lose this season.
I can't really say much today
I feel let down. Was hoping that the opposite would of happened considering how hard they worked in Vancouver. Crawford and the D was dreadful but hopefully we can be thankful if we get a win tonight. I can’t imagine going 3 more days without another chance
Someone mentioned this before but why not try 2-4, 7-8? I hate breaking up Keith and Seabs but really why not try this?
I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
I'd put Leddy with Keith, but yeah, I'd be ok with that
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist
by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
No thanks.
Leddy and keith has been a proven disaster.
I guess I was thinking of Keith as leddy's on ice babysitter when I said that
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist
by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Really? When did that happen? Aside from the rhetoric from the masses opposed to it?
Hawks were 10-2-2 with 2-8 and 4-7 paired. Leddy was a Plus player and was scoring. They were getting offensive zone starts which took pressure off of Leddy. And Leddy’s speed helped him backstop Keith (who was the attacker, not Leddy) so Keith still was able to be aggressive.
4-7 had the lowest GA/60 when paired in the entire league. They got the defensive zone assignments against the top lines and shut them down quite effectively. With Seabs backing up Hjammer, Nik was much more aggressive on D.
Proven disaster?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
CNS with the assist
thank you. I dont think I would have looked that up. I didnt remember them being terrible, I suggested that from a strategy standpoint. Keith and Leddy’s style is kind of similar, and Keith is the more skilled defenseman, thus if Leddy dicks the dog, Keith has better tools to clean it up.
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist
by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Really, I hated keith and leddy together.
I think this blog sort of emulated that belief. Guess it is worth another shot though.
Reaganomics...
emulated created
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Ouch.
Pretty sure their whopping minuses created the belief.
??? They were both Pluses
A. Leddy was a +7 after 12 games paired with Keith. At that pace he would be a +30 right now.
B. Since then, Leddy is a -17 paired with Hjammer.
Now I’m no fucking rocket scientist, but I think A is good and B is fucking Hall shit.
But thanks for so effectively proving my original point.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
is fucking Hall shit?
and yes good point, i remember you bringing this up quite often when they were paired up earlier and everyone (myself included to be honest) thought they were stinking it up.
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
Furthermore, since everyone else's production matters too (net effect)...
Keith: +3 with Leddy, would be a +13 today at that pace.
Currently +12
Seabrook: Even with Hjammer
Currently +11
Hjammer: +4 with Seabs, would be a +19 today at that pace.
Currently +5
So the only player with an improved PlusMinus rate is Seabrook. Keith is about the same. Hjammer’s rate has dropped considerably. Leddy’s has fallen off a cliff.
Top 4, thru 12 games: +14
82 game pace: +96
Top 4, since (40 games): +4
82 game pace: +8
Can I get a “Holy fuck”??
It makes sense if you I think about it. Aside from players getting zone starts that better fit their role and style of play, it was also pairing a veteran with a younger/lesser player on each line. Now not only has coach Q moved Leddy from the childproof playroom to the kitchen with an open knife drawer, he has his 5 year old brother egging him on.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
LOLOL
Hilarious. About how I feel.
The trade deadline can’t come soon enough.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you for posting this CNS
I’ve definitely have grown tired that the Leddy-D2K defence pairing doesn’t work, because it does and it makes the most sense in the world with one vet with another young defenceman.
Now if only Q can get his head in gear and pair Lepisto with Montador everything will be fine back there.
Then again if the ‘Hawks continue to lose then this might be Haviland’s choice to make.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
Because then you have a guy on each pairing
playing on the opposite side than normal. Probably not a good idea to make them try to learn a new side, along with a new partner.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Was really interesting when Seabrook was sent to the box.
It looked like Keith and Hjammer took the first shift. Then Leddy and SCOTT took the next. So NOT only was Monty NOT moved up to replace Seabrook on the PK, Scott was ahead of him on the PK. Monty averaged almost 2 minutes of PK time per game last year and he is now behiind Scott on the PK? What happened to this guy?
If the Hawks are going to play left side and right side D-men then Monty has to hold up his side. A trade for a guy on the other side on 5on5 isn’t going to replace Leddy on the PK.
Yup, that's why I keep saying the defensive pairing solution is a jigsaw puzzle.
Hawks brought in the guy they thought was the best avaialbl for their “needs.” They probably should’ve put more consideration into getting a guy who could skate opposite Leddy if they were determined to live or die with Leddy as #3.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Something happened to this guy.
The Buf fans stated that Monty was a different player the second half of last year from the first. AND he has been that second half player here.
I personally don't see him being as "awful" on defense as Q does
but I definitely don’t see the gritty player I thought the Hawks were getting. IMO, he right there with Leddy in terms of physicality. The only time I see him clearing bodies from the crease (what was supposed to be one of his strong points) is AFTER the whistle or after a goal is scored.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
At least
we’ll always (not) have Paris Barker.
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 11:42 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I definitely yelled
FUCK YOU BARKER when that happened
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist
by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
don't hold this against me
and it’s a real bad time to admit it while watching this picture, I sort of like Barker. on our 3rd pairing – I’m not completely nuts
SCH Street Hockey Club
Great video to remind everybody that it won’t be long now that you can see and experience this kind of backwards skating on a weekly basis (and also suffer numerous intrusive interruptions to your otherwise on-topic Blackhawks hockey threads).
Where's the gif of Barker blowing it by Crawford's glove?
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Last night
Actually it was more like Crawford just seemed to miss it.
Link
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
See my avatar
for the big empty space
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
That's a real scan of my head
I had a cerebral aneurysm that luckily for me was caught in time. I joke that the scan and my EEG records prove that at least I have a functioning brain.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Ooo. That gives me an idea.
Thanks czd
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
As long as the emphasis isn't on "blowing"
your welcome
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Good news for Central Division
Howard broken finger(s)
2 weeks?
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/7536518/detroit-red-wings-jimmy-howard-2-weeks-broken-finger
When I decide to change my personality I will let you know what I become.
by Blackhawks Transplant on Feb 3, 2012 12:08 PM CST reply actions
I saw that.
Hate to get happy over an injury but the hawks just went from 0% chance at winning the division to 15% chance.
Hawks picked the worst possible day to send out invoices regarding playoff tickets
by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 3, 2012 12:12 PM CST reply actions
Or the best day.
It is looking more and more like it will be a premiere matchup in round 1.
just as long as its not the fucking oilers
by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 3, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
BING!
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Feb 3, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Something i learned today
Even after one of the worst goalie performances for a blackhawk in the last decade, people will still blame the defense
by robondacob on Feb 3, 2012 12:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions
it was a combination of both
crawford was whistlin dixie outside the paint and the d just mailed it in halfway through the game.
mostly on crow though
by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 3, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
I thought it was more the 6th goal
where they started mailing it in. Things were shaky from goals 1-5, but after the 6th it seemed like there was a collective, fuck it. It was still a game when it was 5-4.
by Katherine215 on Feb 3, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Can't say I feel badly for Dan Cleary. HATE HATE HATE
http://redwings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=615079&cmpid=rss-roose
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
Yep, just like Howie's pinkies
it’s part of the game!
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Feb 3, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Jimmy Howard
Probably pulled a Tom Haverford Owwwwwww my fingieee
Hawks PP
Might have some of the best skilled players but I think their skills shin when they have space to move and create. Powerplays usually focused in a small space with limited ability to move and the PK collapses so fast that it cancels out speed.
Lead writer of nothing, commenter on everything.
Because of that typo
Duncan Keith just took a shot at your post
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist
by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Yup
Transition team forced to play half court. Still a lot of talent out there though.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yup times 2 for me.
I’d really like to see the Hawks do three different things on special teams:
On the PP the primary thing I would change (if blessed with the powers to make it so) is drop the insistence on having a man on, or behind, the goaline. I don’t want to get into too much PP theory (which I’ve done in past threads), but the reasoning is more than just "the back door attempt isn’t working. That much is obvious. The reason it’s not working is because teams have recognized that despite having two incredibly dangerous players (Toews/Kane) manning the goaline and the half-wall, they can both be covered with one defender in a standard box. Given their talents, it’s understandable that normal defensive instincts would draw a second defender thereby collapsing the box and opening either A; a backdoor seam (hello Sharp) or B; a lane for the point-man along the wall to creep in (wherein he will get a great opportunity) If B happens and one of the other two defenders collapse on him, two other seams open (C; goaline tap-in or D; easy one-timer for the other D-man) depending on which way the coverage breaks down. I’d be willing to bet that teams have broken down the video and realised that having Toews below the goaline is akin to him removing himself from the play. Motion behind the net along the goaline creates confusion with the goalies reads (he can’t see the positioning of shooters in front of him) but isolating yourself in a static position has a nullifying effect on that player. What the Hawks are doing is daring teams to try and cover their two most dangerous players 1-on-1 and nobody’s biting anymore. By returning to a more typical system with slot presence and wingers at the top-of-the-circles/hash-marks, then having players move dynamically through the seams, they would create more coverage confusion which should create unintended 1-on-1 coverage resulting in someone being open in a dangerous position.
Second, way more speed/depth at zone entry from the men without the puck. This can be on both the dump in and carried entries. The first guy should go to where the Hawks DON’T intend to place the puck (confusion) as this will draw a defender out of position allowing the Hawks to set-up where they want to control the play form. On dump-ins it kind of goes without saying that you’re just giving the puck away if you don’t chase with speed and puck support.
On the PK side, the killers look completely vexed when dealing with a precise ring dump and forward speed. I say this because nearly every time the ring-in beats the goalie (and the defenseman on the side that the puck is going to end up on) the Hawks forward along the wall will make the first contact with the puck but then proceed to get swallowed up by the forecheck. It’s unaceptable, for a couple of reasons. If the ring beats the goalie (and the d-man) behind the net, the d-man must hold his position below the goaline (or close to the corner but still below the goaline). He MUST NOT turn 180º and give chase to the puck. The reasoning for this is that by chasing the puck back up along the wall to the hashmarks he’s eliminating his own time and space and he’s placing himself (the forwards outlet) right on the forward. The net result is that his only play is to force the puck up the wall at three opposing players (1st forecheck, puck support and the d-man holding the blue). If he stops behind the goaline, the forward can reverse the puck back to him and he’s instantly bought himself about 20 feet of space to clear the puck (or he can swing it behind the net to his partner who should have more time). To me these seem like simple things that are not being preached, practiced, or played – and it’s killing them. The best PK is one that doesn’t even allow the other team to set-up.
You are next.
by M7 on Feb 3, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
can we Badgerdano M7
into the Hawks coaching team?
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
The Hawks PP unit knows this as FACT
The best PK is one that doesn’t even allow the other team to set-up.
Yet the PK has not picked up on it?
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 3, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks for the insights M7
as always AI is much appreciated.
SHOOT THE FUCKING PUCK!!!
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
So I just updated my daily Stats stuff
And after what ever happened yesterday, I now have the Hawks 10th in the NHL just a couple whiskers ahead of… wait for it………….. The Toronto Maples Leafs in my DRS.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 3, 2012 1:54 PM CST reply actions
So tonights line-up?
Crow works the gate!
Pressbox passes for:
Travis
Frolik
Scott
Dress:
Old Donald or Lepisto (in my dreams)
Is Hayes on this trip?
The glass remains half full!
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Feb 3, 2012 2:17 PM CST reply actions
is this what you want?
or what is happening
A fuckin guess,
Only Q knows!
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Feb 3, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
from chris kuc
#Blackhawks coach Joel Quenneville on whether personnel changes need to be made: “No, no, we have our team here.”
"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"
So, I think I'll go play
broomball tonight!
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."
by thepuckstopshere31 on Feb 3, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
I think I'll just pickle my liver tonight
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 3, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
I call bullshit, Q
Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist
by BigCSouthside on Feb 3, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Well what's he supposed to say?
It’s obvious he doesn’t feel that way based on how he manages his bench.
seriously
one of the twits was expressing his concern over the fact that Bowman said he was happy with the netminders and D-men.
…. why would bowman ever say anything else? There’s no upside to saying negative things to the press.
Lepisto is awful I'd rather have o'donnell
by robondacob on Feb 3, 2012 3:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Based on what?
All his ice time this season?
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 3, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
yes i based my opinion on his ice time
he adds nothing to the game at all. at least scott can rarely fight people, lepisto just turns over the puck and flutters around in the d zone
was thinking same thing
in the 10 games he has played, what exactly can you base this on?
I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
I could tell from this
SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 3, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
How can you tell?
This is Hack in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.
Game Day thread a bit delayed
should be up by 5 at the latest, hopefully earlier
This is Hack in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.
on B&B a little while ago
They called out the Hawks beat reporters for not going more in-depth with their questions to coach Q. Insinuating that the reporters are in lockstep with the team i.e. Q never lies and is never wrong. Interesting.
Also called Edzo “petty” for whining about the Oilers’ personnel decisions at the end of the game.
Let's Go Hawks!
They mention SCH alot and been talking a little more about things
but sounds like they have been reading…
I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
No link just discussion on 670 am radio
Boers and Bernstein (sp?)
I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
thought it may have been available to stream somewhere
always worth a try
by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 3, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
It might be on 670 the score.com
Google 670 the Score
The Score and Kuc
often snipe each other on the Twitter. Also, I’m convinced that listening to the score is a guaranteed method of lowering your IQ. If you feel like you’re too smart, listen to the Score for just 20 minutes and it will make you comfortably numb. I hear things said on the Score that have to be just to get people to listen to the show because otherwise they wouldn’t be said. I can’t give you an example because the last time I listened was 2008; however, it was awful.
I listen to the score daily
I dont listen to them for hockey information. Thats what I have this website for. However when they do mention hockey, your point is 100% accruate. I just listen because they can be funny. B&B most dont like but I find them entertaining.
I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
It's not just their hockey coverage
But yeah sometimes it feels like you’re talking to your friend or brother who is really passionate about sports but doesn’t know what he’s talking about but he’s cool because he’s funny at the same time.
Shut up Edzo
Gagner tied Gretzky and Coffey for Edmonton’s most points in a game. One more point and he would have stood alone in their record book. I’d don’t have the records in front of me but I’m pretty sure Gretzky and Coffey are at the top of most of those list. As a hockey fan and because the game was out of reach, I was hoping to see him get that 9th point.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
FYI
Gretzky got 8 points twice in his career (both in the same season) Coffey once. Mario has the most 8 point games with three (all in one season). It has only been done 16 times by 13 players, 13 of those occurred between 1976-1989. Only Wayne and Mario had multiple 8-point games. The 1989-2012 time between 8 point games was the longest ahead of going from 1954-1976 without an 8 point game. Petr and Anton St’astny both recorded an 8 point game in the same game for QUE on 2-22-81 vs WSH.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 3, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
and then there' Rick Vaive
with 10 points in a game. Too bad he was with Toronto and not the Hawks.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
?????
The one and only game where a player scored more then 8 points was by Darryl Sittler on 2-7-1976 with 10 points (6G-4A) with the Leafs vs the Bruins.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 3, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
You are absolutely right
I don’t know why I thought Vaive although back in the day he’d kill the Hawks,
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Jeremy Roenick
presents this without comment.
…. i’m speechless.
Ditto on the speechless
but only because I’m smart enough to not make a joke about it.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Going to the game tonight in Calgary.
I’m afraid what to expect. Seems like I have been getting the crap games of the year.
It can’t get worse can it?
Or is Lee Stempniak and David Moss going to combine for 14 points?
by Jamie T Bone Cochrane on Feb 3, 2012 4:09 PM CST reply actions
Second game of a back to back
on the road where they are going to try to rebound from an embarrassing loss. I think it’s a coin flip between dog-ass tired or domination.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
That's a very good point.
It may be Calgary licking their chops in anticipation for a team whose top D men were worked to death the night before.
No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource
So earlier this week
I was thinking the Hawks had a real possiblity of trading for Sam Gagner….guess that isn’t hapening now…
Im too lazy to make a signature
Those tires have been kicked
for a while now in the rumors of the league. I would like to see him and Kaner reunited to see what would happen I’m just not sure another small forward is what the Hawks need. Either way, last night’s performance may actually get teams more interested in him and be willing to offer more in return. Then again interested teams may say “8 points WOW! Oh shit, it came against the Hawks defense”
No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource
trading gagner...
he’s young, obviously has upside, been in their org… why trade him? And if they did, why to us, for more prospects they’ll just have to wait longer on?
sooner or later, edmonton has to stop rebuilding and be good, right?
I agree. I was just saying that rumors
regarding the Hawks supposed interest in him have been circulating since as early as the end of October. From what I gather it was his lack of production that the Oil organization was unhappy with which led to his being scratched for a number of games early in the year. I haven’t seen his being mentioned in trade talks nearly as often as it had been in the past.
No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource
In an effort to maximize my sanity
and minimize my frustration; for the rest of this trip I am reverting to 2007 mind set and am not expecting great outcomes. With as many questions as there are surrounding this team I have come to the conclusion that the less I expect from them the less I will be frustrated if they do not deliver and the more I will be pleasantly surprised when the do perform in a winning fashion.
With that in mind, GO HAWKS!!!
No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource
good advice
note- this is not resignation or quitting on the team.
studies show that unrealistic expectations are the source of over 94% of the stupid comments on these boards.
We like our people!
so the 6% of acceptable anger was
from getting our asses handed to us by Edmonton, right? :D
Seriously though, I was so happy with the effort after Vancouver, it just hurt that much more.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Feb 3, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
That is the main focus of my frustration
For them to play very solid game with an above average defensive performance one night to come out a night or 2 later and just completely shit the bed is irritating beyond belief for me. I know not every game is gonna’ be great but some level of consistency would be greatly appreciated at this time.
No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource
And even then.
Bed-shitting happens from time to time. See the aforementioned Bluejackets game with Huet, or the Dec 2009 foray against the Preds where we lost 4-1.
When it happens a few times in a row to the same shitty team, is when it starts to get unacceptable.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Feb 3, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
I liked the Theory of Ice piece today
I recall sitting next to four fans of hispanic persausion when we played calgary in the playoffs. They didn’t speak real good English, didn’t know squat about hockey theory – they just like the guys in red skating around real fast and occasionally blasting somebody.
They really smiled when Bib Buff crunched someone. No in depth analysis or flipping to the back of the Committed Indian to check out someone’s Corsi or how we’ve faired against a certain ref. hell, I seriously doubt they knew we had a goaltending problem, or (fill in the blank)__________ sucks.
I envied their ignorant enjoyment of the game. It was the first game of the playoffs and I think it was Havlat who won it right after the opening faceoff in OT. As we filed out of the UC that night, there was no doubrt in my mind that 4 new fans were born.
Hopefully, they’re not checking the Qualcom before tonights game. Hopefully they’re just screaming, “Hit Someone!”
GAME DAY THRE3EEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAD
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Feb 3, 2012 5:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions
here you go, Bob
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Giving up on even-handedness & politeness. Going for open contempt & disdain.
Merose is giving Gagner credit
for scoring 8 points against Chicago and not Columbus. Yeah Barry, there doesn’t seem to be much of a difference in their defense at this time.
No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource
’Hawks defence needs tweaking, but is solid. The goaltending, on the other hand, is hideous.
Proud fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks and the 2010 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.
"You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself into one."
being generous to the defense.
they’re both bad.
better late than never
This is Hack in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.
Well... going to the game tonight.
I really hope they put in a complete effort on all fronts because I know I’ll be taking a major ribbing from Flames fans after last nights result.
You are next.
good luck, mate!
hopefully you’ll be drinking their tears at the end…
"Kevin, You can't play Doom Metal while wearing a scarf"
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- Rangers eliminated by Devils with crushing OT loss after another rally in Game 6 falls short
- Rangers season ends as another rally falls short
- Hard-skating Cataractes upset set defending champ Saint John 7-4 at Memorial Cup
