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That they have to steal WiFi from Windsor.

THAT"S A F**KING GOAL!!!~ ME 6/9/10 @Joe_DeTolve

by chelischili7 on Feb 9, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Also, you live in Ohio

Things from that place up north don’t often get past the border.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

The Bad News

The Hawks are in their worst rut I can remember for a long long while, they are fading if have not faded from the Central Division race, have dropped from top 5 to mid 10, their Goal Tending and Defense have been non-existant and can’t score goals for crap.

The Good News

Even in the midst (hopefully end) of their worst rut I can remember in a long long time, the Hawks are still 6th in the Conference with plenty of breathing room, Have more points then 2 Division leaders, only 8 teams have more points then them, are only 4 points out of the 4th-5th seed and 2nd-3rd in the Division, still 1 of 12 teams with positive Goal diff, are 4th in the NHL for Goals For, and only a move maybe two from still being a very strong SC Contender.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
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Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 8:49 AM CST reply actions  

Quote of the Day by our friend HjammerTime
Whoever sucks less come playoff time will be in net.

Too true but it cracks me up reading it.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 8:59 AM CST reply actions  

Thank you sir.

The depressing truth.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

in the future

all such comments should also be provided with French translations.

thank you.

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by cliffkoroll on Feb 9, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I should know better
Celui qui aspire temps des séries moins arrivé sera devant le filet.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

So... Huet is coming back?

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 9, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

between that and the fifth feather, yeah i'm pretty angry/upset also

and that is why i do put blame on Q – its his responsibility to manage his roster, utilize his players effectively, and put them in the best position to succeed (both individually and as a team). its frustrating.

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by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Jesus! Are you kidding me?

This roster, as it is currently configured, might not be a Stanley Cup worthy roster, but it sure as hell is NHL caliber.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

You can't honestly believe the tripe you're typing

Now you are comparing the talent on the Hawks roster to that of the BJs?

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

yes I do

are they what we need to win the cup – maybe not. do i think its the responsibility of the coach to utilize players effectively so they can be successful and help the team succeed – yes. Do i think Q has been doing that – not always. do i think a great coach should be able to – yup.

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by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

No

Bring back Arneson-Bell-Calder!

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by cliffkoroll on Feb 9, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

that's the six-game skid talking

a less charitable interpretation is that your view is practically the definition of “spoiled.”

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by cliffkoroll on Feb 9, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

It just makes one wonder, What did Lepisto do?

Given all the changes and shuffling Q IS willing to make, why not try Lepisto? Does the guy dog it in practice? Is he a bad teammate? Did he do someone’s wife? Did he make fun of Q’s stache?

What IS the deal Q?!? Why not at least give him a try?

Do you ever have dejavu?
Didn't you just ask me that?

by Preacher000 on Feb 9, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

same reason (fifth feather riffed on this)

that monty doesn’t get PK time. And Scott gets 5 min a night, and …

yeah.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

to be honest though, if he does dog it in practice (and i at least haven't heard anyone say that)

at this point is it any wonder? he probably feels like nothing he do is going to get him on the ice. SCOTT has played more games then him. And when Q didn’t want to play Scott or OD, he brought in a rookie. If I was Lepisto I’d be so fucking depressed and angry and asking my agent to get me the hell out of chicago.

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by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I will have to use my go-to line on this one.

Q is acting like Lepisto fucked his favorite chickens.

"Knowledge is Good."

by SECORD3 on Feb 9, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

It's a good line.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you.

Although proper credit does go to Super Troopers.

"Knowledge is Good."

by SECORD3 on Feb 9, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree he should get a shot

But using an 11 game sample size to prove much of anything is an exercise in futility. Team win stats are probably not indicative of much either when we’re talking about a 6th defenceman skating 11-13 minutes a game. It’s like pitcher wins in baseball. And I think my thoughts on the +/- stat are well known around here.

Do you sacrifice potential wins in order to bolster your struggling PK? If the defense quality is better, and your team takes less penalties, then it should theoretically lessen the need for a “PK specialist”, versus a blue liner who’s better at 5-on-5.

Unless you’re a team with a struggling set of goaltenders who happens to allow the most shots per 60 minutes in the entire NHL.

The argument for Lepisto is more reliant on the status of Steve Montador than anything else.

Remember the infamous November 16th blowout loss against the Vancouver Canucks? Lepistö was a +2, and wasn’t on the ice for any of the goals against.

I do remember that game and it’s very difficult to accrue a minus when 5 of the 6 goals given up were on the powerplay.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

This part, however, we can all agree on.
In short: no matter how much Coach Quenneville or his teammates like him or “feel reassured” when he is on the ice, John Scott should never be dressed for a game over Sami Lepistö again

/raises glass

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

The argument for Lepisto is actually quite simple:

Forget all the stats and numbers—the fact remains that the personnel Q has on the ice are not getting the job done. Putting Lepisto out there is nothing more than “give this guy a shot, he can’t be any worse, can he?” Given how much Q has tried jostling his roster it’s rather surprising that he hasn’t put Sami out there just to “shake things up.”

Though one stat does jump out, and that’s his minutes when he’s actually played vs. Scott’s. The 5 to 7 minutes Scott contributes forces Keith and others to get too many minutes. Lepisto is at least out there for 10 minutes or more.

And all this Lepisto stuff shouldn’t be construed as thinking Sami is a savior. It’s just another item on the list of “What is Q thinking?” when trying to figure out what has happened to what seemed like an intelligent coach.

Do you ever have dejavu?
Didn't you just ask me that?

by Preacher000 on Feb 9, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

This
And all this Lepisto stuff shouldn’t be construed as thinking Sami is a savior. It’s just another item on the list of "What is Q thinking?" when trying to figure out what has happened to what seemed like an intelligent coach.

Yep

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I think the “seemed intelligent coach” is being exposed as a very bad manager with a pre-lockout vision where bigger meant better in terms of defensive defencemen.

Do the ’Hawks need a change? Yes. Will Q change his ways to counteract this? No.

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by hawks61 on Feb 9, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking the exact opposite.

Our GM seems to be of the mind that, following the post lock-out rule changes, hockey would become a small man’s game. Yet, reality has not borne that out.

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Lepisto explained

not defending Q, just a theory as to his thought process:

This is a small team- prone to getting pushed around.

Q needs size in certain roster spots. He can’t afford a small guy as the #6 defenseman on this roster for the marginal benefit the #6 defenseman will provide the team in other ways.

This theory seems plausible to me. If this is what Q thinks, I disagree, but I’m not under any illusion that playing Lepisto will really move the needle here.

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by cliffkoroll on Feb 9, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

"I’m not under any illusion that playing Lepisto will really move the needle here."

Nor I. But again, it can’t be much worse, can it?

(But it could get better if he’s decent on D and takes some minutes from our top guys which means they may not get gassed which they may not give up several goals in the third period which means they may actually win a few games which means…
Hmmm, maybe the needle might move a bit….)

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Didn't you just ask me that?

by Preacher000 on Feb 9, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

to be clear

by all means, let’s discuss the merits of Lepisto playing, although I think the number of pixels devoted to the subject of a #6 d-man may already exceed the quota by a goodish bit.

The main point of my comment was to supply a response to the widespread and oft-repeated view that: “Q not playing Lepisto defies explanation.”

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by cliffkoroll on Feb 9, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

One idea I haven't seen discussed

Perhaps Q needs to give Leddy a seat for a couple of games?

Earlier this season this might have seemed implausible, but Q’s already halfway there. Leddy’s been dropped to the 3rd line and paired with Monty, which in turn has forced Monty to skate on his off-side. Montador hasn’t looked good there. Nothing like taking a defenseman who is “struggling” (at least in Q’s eyes) and then putting him in an even more difficult position to succeed.

Lepisto isn’t a puck rusher, but he is a two-way defender. Monty is supposed to be one too. Lepisto is a lefty, Monty is a righty. Seems like peas and carrots to me, and worth a look if Monty is healthy.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 9, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

The way we treat Lepisto

Does that say anything about how the Blackhawks organization treats FA’s?

Call me Marlon Brando.

by derlemke on Feb 9, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

No.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember an old debate on this site

Some people were worried the FA’s wouldn’t want to come after the Brain Campbell situation.

Call me Marlon Brando.

by derlemke on Feb 9, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Makes zero sense to me.

So, because the Blackhawks sign you, it makes you impossible to bench?

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by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

meh

Just a question.

Call me Marlon Brando.

by derlemke on Feb 9, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

On the nose right there....
(But it could get better if he’s decent on D and takes some minutes from our top guys which means they may not get gassed which they may not give up several goals in the third period which means they may actually win a few games which means…
Hmmm, maybe the needle might move a bit….)

I mean, really, what an odd idea – playing the guy who previously in his career ate up an average 18 min/game while playing against 2nd & 3rd liners and doing pretty well at it …. versus putting in the guy who can barely contain 4th liners and is only putting in 5 minutes a game, thus leaving the rest of the D corps to suck up the remaining TOI.

Crazy, right?

Q needs size in certain roster spots. He can’t afford a small guy as the #6 defenseman on this roster for the marginal benefit the #6 defenseman will provide the team in other ways.

Just as a side note, but Lepisto is taller than both Leddy and Montador and heavier than Leddy. Granted, not by much, but it’s not like the Hawks have any 5’10" d-men.

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by HockeyBroad on Feb 9, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Scott or Lepisto?

Which one will eat more ice time and give you a better chance of stopping the bad guys? If your theory is right I still think Q is a whack job in playing Scott ahead of Lepisto.

(we’re on the same page.)

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Easily the biggest mystery of the Bowman/Q era.

Both deserve blame here. Bowman not only acquiesces and signs him, but gives him 2 years. Then when Q takes his love of Scott to the extreme, Bowman refuses to outright waive him.

Both get the blame for that one.

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by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

What about Dylan Olsen?

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 9, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

no

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

What about Dylan Olsen?

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by cliffkoroll on Feb 9, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

? same here confused about Olsen

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by Jrs23 on Feb 9, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought Olsen Looked good when he was up here.

Keith & Seabs: Need less TOI – absolutely
Hjammer – has made some big plays in the middle of this mess
Leddy: Needs to reset… hope we haven’t ruined him.
OD: unspectacular, but solid
Monty: Move him to forward – make him Byfuglien lite.
Lepisto: Why not? (and just what the fuck did he do?
Scott: NO!!! – Now stop that, now!!!

Outside of the Luke Shenn rumor, please don’t bring in another steaming pile.

Unless we go off the reservation for help, and unless Lepisto has removed his kryptonite suppository, I think Dylan is our best available option.

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 9, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

What IS Q thinking?
And all this Lepisto stuff shouldn’t be construed as thinking Sami is a savior. It’s just another item on the list of "What is Q thinking?" when trying to figure out what has happened to what seemed like an intelligent coach.

Wasn’t suggesting when I wrote the article that he’d be a savior. There isn’t a player out there who’s going to magically salvage this season all by their lonesome if dropped into this roster, no matter what people want to think. (Also, the fan requests to acquire the likes of Miller, Thomas, Weber, etc. through trade are getting completely out of control. No, Chicago doesn’t need their huge salary caps nor are they going to “fix” what’s wrong.)

BUT… the TOI is the biggest thing of all. In Phoenix, he ate huge TOI playing probably 2nd-line D against 2nd/3rd line players and overall he did well enough. In Chicago, he’s gotten used more as a 13th forward than a 6th D-man, and just when he started to really gain ice time, his minutes suddenly waned off and then disappeared altogether.

Meanwhile, Scott continues to see game time, and very little TOI. I’ll readily admit Scott improved a great deal compared to himself last year, BUT…. his stats and CORSI say nothing that make me feel confident watching him on the ice. Scott is the nicest guy in the world off the ice, but if he can’t contribute 12-16 TOI every single game then he sure shouldn’t be playing.

If we need fists, that’s what Mayers is for: a smart, tough 4th liner.

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by HockeyBroad on Feb 9, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

/jumps up and down waiving arms in air

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 9, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

seriously

do you have some sort of filing system going on? maybe labelled “Stuff to be produced if Certain People Stick Their Heads Out?” (FlannO’Brien/d)..
you’re also (both) dead right…

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
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by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

who, me?

Ha, no, not at all. Sometimes I might be thinking about something a bit before writing (instead of just writing in reaction to a given day’s event). The Lepisto article took quite a few hours of research – I had to cull through several seasons of play time & CORSI, and analyze how he was getting used, and how successful he was (not just CORSI analysis but taking a broader picture look by looking at his win % etc). I enjoy being a stat nerd, although I’ll also say that I take CORSI more as a barometer than as an absolute. Players add stuff to games that doesn’t show up in stats charts. (“energy guys”). Like Moneyball but for hockey… moneypuck. ;)

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by HockeyBroad on Feb 9, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

no.not you..

that damn CNS…

but your last couple of posts have been excellent.. and I’m not surprised that it took some research.. well done!

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
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by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

agree with mmD

your article on your site plus your comments here have been great, very enlightening. and between that and CNS’s comment, make really excellant cases for playing with facts beyond my just wanting him out there.

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by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

his name is Mrs Montador..mmD

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by westy99 on Feb 9, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

how could i forget! =(

shame on me

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by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

oi!

that’s “Perfessser Mrs. Montador”… It makes me VERY angry when hockey IGNORAMUSES misuse my titles.. Sufferin’ Suckotash!

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks :)

To both you & mightymikeD, appreciate the compliments. :)

Think sometimes it’s too easy to point a finger at some players and say ‘he sucks, that guy sucks, and jfc, waive that guy.’ But it’s unfair to do that to players w/o taking a long look at the analytics. For example, I was surprised to see Hjammer turn out to look so solid on CORSI when it seems like every game he’s getting plastered into the glass over & over.

Lepisto being benched so much this season is just a huge mystery. Everything about his past stats/CORSI indicate he’s capable of carrying a solid 17-18 minutes a night against 2nd/3rd liners – and doing a good job at it.

As a friend discussed w/ me this evening, “If Tippett trusted Lepisto that much (on a team like Phoenix), why doesn’t Q?”

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by HockeyBroad on Feb 9, 2012 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

As I stated in my post, it's at best an indication of what Lepisto is capable of

For more accurate CORSI, ideally you want to have 20+ games to look at. So when we studied the CORSI charts, we had to allow a little more margin for error than a player (especially for example on QoT vs rel QoT) who has say, 37 games. Sean O’Donnell (that 37 game guy) has an overall below-0.500 record on the team — coincidence? At a sample size of 11, yes, easy to say coincidence the needle points to the right (ie. Lepisto’s win ), but at 68 of the games played (OD), much harder to ignore a trend.

I do remember that game and it’s very difficult to accrue a minus when 5 of the 6 goals given up were on the powerplay.

Very true, but the point was in a game where the score could have been far more lopsided, the 5v5 play was solid and not only that but he added to the offense in a game that for the most part looked really terrible.

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by HockeyBroad on Feb 9, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Looked up the PK stats for that game....

Lepistö had 1:33 of PK time. So roughly what, 2-3 shifts? Mmmm.

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by HockeyBroad on Feb 9, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

That article

just makes me mad. Everyone else has said pretty much everything else I was thinking, so I won’t beat a dead horse by repeating comments.

by AZHawksfan on Feb 9, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Great article - my brain is still swollen from trying to grasp everything in it...

but the eye test on Lepisto, and yes I do wear glasses, tell me he’s not going make a huge difference. Again, this could be because of a very small sample sice – but from what i’ve seen, Campoli was better.

Hope i’m wrong – and I’d like to see him get an audition.

by wardrums on Feb 9, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

he might make a huge difference just by playing 12 - 15 minutes a game not soiling himself

and letting Keith play only 26 – 28 minutes instead of over 30

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 9, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

The main point right there -
he might make a huge difference just by playing 12 – 15 minutes a game not soiling himself and letting Keith play only 26 – 28 minutes instead of over 30

Keith plays his best when he’s in the low 20s in terms of TOI. And the team seems to reflect how well Keith is doing.

So if some of the TOI can be alleviated from Keith’s shoulders with a D-man who’s more useful, particularly at even strength, then that helps the team.

Part of the problem is I think the Blackhawks seem to want all their D-men to make strong contributions offensively. After watching the team struggle so much this season and last, I’m happy just to see a D-man who’s not giving up goals consistently and/or leaving the goalie’s back door uncovered and/or hey look, it’s another breakaway towards our struggling goalies!

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by HockeyBroad on Feb 9, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Can we get this to Q and Stan?

It ain’t rocket science, play the guy will ya!

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by thepuckstopshere31 on Feb 9, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

The general sentiment today being what it is,

I can’t resist dredging up this chestnut

Hey! I take penumbrage at that!

by ratbite on Feb 9, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Q's plan is to make sure

the Hawks play Van in the first round again. Bastard.

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by westy99 on Feb 9, 2012 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

Hey maybe you are on to something here

Maybe the NHL is paying the Hawks to lose to set this up again. It’s Code Name Return of the Dragon, Dragon’s Revenge.

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by stacie7 on Feb 9, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Will you be wearing

your Burrows jersey again this year?

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by westy99 on Feb 9, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

ha

If I did have a Nucks jersey (which I don’t), it wouldn’t be him.

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by stacie7 on Feb 9, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

That's a relief...

:-)

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

She probably would buy

A Kesler or an Edler though

Secretly, its Lapierre that she really loves though!

;-)

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by vancitydan on Feb 9, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Lapierre?

LOL

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by stacie7 on Feb 9, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

It's good to know

he has any kind of a plan…

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Fifth Feather is usually awesome

“I see a head coach that is out to prove to the world just how smart he really is.”

Spot on – and I see a GM who’s either unwilling or unable to communicate/persuade Q to start using the players he acquired for this team’s specific needs over the summer – like, right farking now, if you please. I see no earthly reason why Bickell and Lepisto get continually shit on, and his attitude regarding Monty is truly insane. Why pay all that money for a player and then not use him appropriately? Is that not the coach’s job in the first place? Is it not his job to win, regardless of who sits when and who plays on which line? Can someone ask Scotty to have a little talk with Q and ask him just WTF is going on in his head right now?

by Waylon on Feb 9, 2012 10:13 AM CST reply actions  

Motion carries

Q needs to a whoopin’!

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

If you see no earthly reason

for Bickell to get shit on, you haven’t been paying enough attention.

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

there really isn't

Bickell performed far above any expectations last year, and this year seems to be about par. But if he sucks in your opinion, who is a better alternative right now?

by Waylon on Feb 9, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

frequently not in his Hawks tenure to date

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 10, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Monty!

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 9, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

What does this mean?
Tracey Myers @TramyersCSN
A closed-off organization suddenly airing issues at a public practice? Not buying it. He’s not the one on the hottest seat right now

If this is in reference to Stan Bowman having to worry, AT ALL, about a warm seat then I’m going to be pissed off.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

Excuse me?

What in the world is this quote about? In reference to whom? What is she responding to? (Inquiring minds want to know! Uh, I just dated myself there, didn’t I?)

Do you ever have dejavu?
Didn't you just ask me that?

by Preacher000 on Feb 9, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

The quote is in reference to this

http://300level.net/?p=3243

I don’t read that site so I have no knowledge of its credibility. However, Tracey responded to it when someone forwarded it to her. It appears she’s saying Q has nothing to worry about and that someone else’s seat might be getting warm.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for sharing.

Who’s seat? Kitch would be my first guess. It sure as heck isn’t Stan’s, is it? Or are we talking about a player?

Do you ever have dejavu?
Didn't you just ask me that?

by Preacher000 on Feb 9, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

So someone tweet her and ask who IS on the hottest seat?

That should make for some fun Twitter action!

Do you ever have dejavu?
Didn't you just ask me that?

by Preacher000 on Feb 9, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not surprised...

Do you ever have dejavu?
Didn't you just ask me that?

by Preacher000 on Feb 9, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

i am a bit for tracey

kuc, waste of oxygen. Tracey knows her shit.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't question her intelligence.

But I do think this whole bit about her being better at her job than the other beat writers is almost completely based on the fact that she is a semi-attractive female….she doesn’t give us anything that Sassone-Jahns and Kuc don’t. Also, now that she is in with Comcast, I expect her to become even worse.

/fire away

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I disagree... a bit.

I don’t get the feeling that she’s as much in the tank as the other beats are. No, she doesn’t ask the toughest questions either (none of them do, apparently) but she also doesn’t campaign for players like some do, and she seems to be a bit more intelligent in her assessment. In that, I think she gives us a bit more than Kuc and Jahns. (I still like Sassone even though he’s gotten a bit odd in some of his reporting.)

(And I’m waiting for you to get blasted for the “semi” part of your comment! :)

Do you ever have dejavu?
Didn't you just ask me that?

by Preacher000 on Feb 9, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

semi- 

a combining form borrowed from Latin, meaning "half," freely prefixed to English words of any origin, now sometimes with the senses "partially," "incompletely," "somewhat":

"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."

by thepuckstopshere31 on Feb 9, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Incompletely attractive?

That’ll win you friends!

Do you ever have dejavu?
Didn't you just ask me that?

by Preacher000 on Feb 9, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

To all my friends!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=QEtBNoUnGJs&NR=1

"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."

by thepuckstopshere31 on Feb 9, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

disagree with you calling her semi-attractive

Having her pop up on my screen is like watching the girl from the ring crawl out of my tv

Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^

by TazerNation19 on Feb 9, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

right - and all of the males talking heads on TV are Greek god level handsome

She isn’t a model turned announcer sort, but she is by no means bad looking…and she’s actually smart/good about the sport she’s covering.

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 9, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you telling me Chris Boden was never an underwear model?

I just think she gets a free pass when it comes to all the rage directed at the beats. I’ll also be clear that I never said she was bad looking, and in fact pointed out that she was semi-attractive, which was the whole point of my post.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I think she is a step (or more) above most of the beats

les rage might be associated with more competence

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 9, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Can you point out one thing she does better than any of the other beats?

Aside from not smoking Ben Smith’s pole?

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

its basically just that

she doesn’t go flying off into left field, or go out of her way to cover for the organization, and she doesn’t entertain wild flights of fancy that have little to do with reality.

breath of fresh air, when it comes to the beats.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Truth on almost all counts.

However I stick by my prediction that she will drift into 100% flak territory eventually.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Turning over a new leaf?

Sorry, sometimes ugly has to be greeted with the ugly truth.

Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^

by TazerNation19 on Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Sarah Kustok is hot

And I don’t care what y’all say. I’ll be her Huckleberry any time.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

you Hound you

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 9, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Only we old farts

will know that reference.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh my darlin'

Oh my darlin’ Clementine . . .

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Did this thread just get Kilmer'd?

Tombstone fucking rules… except for the river scene
“NO.”

by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Feb 9, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll be your huckleberry

Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^

by TazerNation19 on Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

And the hound deal was when

Doc catches Wyatt checking the actress out, no?

by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Feb 9, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

In vino veritas

Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^

by TazerNation19 on Feb 9, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

there's this school in Ireland

where they do EVERYTHING through Latin.. and tobacco products are very much forbidden
So, a Prefect is walking along the corridor and spots a schoolboy chewing something that may well be tobacco…
Prefect: “Quid est hoc?”
Schoolboy: “Hoc est quid”

did you all find that funny?

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Not half educated like me

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

eh

those Hellenic Types had it first..
Ἐν οἴνῳ ἀλήθεια"

At least, according to our ‘Man On The Spot’ Alcaeus.. and would you call followers of Alcaeus ‘Alcauestions’? and if so are they also representations of that classic MittelEuropean streotype, the Teutonic Pastor?

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

nah just resourceful

Tombstone is one of my favorite movies and imdb has some good quotes

Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^

by TazerNation19 on Feb 10, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

"Age quod agis."

"Make the bastard chase you, he will follow."

by RaoulDuke27 on Feb 10, 2012 1:28 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

I'm sure of it... I HATE HIM!!!

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 10, 2012 9:11 AM CST up reply actions  

What? Nickelodeon doesn't play that show?

is there something racist or non-PC in it that I never picked up on?

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 9, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL, no I wasn’t referring to General Hospital or Huckleberry Hound, but the way this thread is derailing into randomness is making me laugh.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 9, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

but there's not anything wrong with that anymore, right?

other than the not being able to tell anyone?

Nowadays, he could date Spongebob, right?

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 9, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

He can have Squidward

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

That's cruel

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

so days of our lives then

/still watches soaps
/will is adorable

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Will is a douche

He has become some emo little twerp.

And, yes, I’m forced to watch Days on the DVR with my wife being that the family room is also my office.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

lol, he is going through stuff, ok!?!

but i was literally referring to his face, i think he is a cutie.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

That's ok. I understand completely

I used to have the hots for Jennifer but now she’s starting to show her age.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I can understand that

I can’t get past Austin being the guy who broke up Zack and Kelly on Saved by the Bell either. Plus he did not age.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Did not age WELL.

because hell yes did he age.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Screech

Hot or no?

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 9, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

that you even thought this was a valid question

makes me worry for your sanity. by which i mean hell no

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

His good looks were ruined by his annoying personality? I hate when that happens.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 9, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

zoinks!

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

/doesn't

(sets fire to saskjet then drenches him from a bucket labelled ‘Water’ that actually contains Aviation Spirit)

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

The Goose?

???

"Knowledge is Good."

by SECORD3 on Feb 9, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions  

disagree

if anything, Tracy’s…looks…inspire in me the view that she is competent.

I know that’s wrong, but this is the world we live in.

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Feb 9, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

The queen of competency then must be


Helen Thomas

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank god for titles!

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I considered

not using a title and finding a larger picture. You know, just to torment everyone. But then I’d have been slapped up by Stacie, Ahn, or one of “the rest”…

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I think if you had used a larger picture

your monitor would have caught fire.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes fucking titles

I almost ran from my chair yelling “my eyes…my eyes, my poor fucking eyes”

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 9, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, that too.

Just not in this context

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

me too...

confused and scared…

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer?

“Your world frightens and confuses me’

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

damn!

and I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for you pesky Hjammertime etc etc

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh how I long for those old brick cell phones...

You were really someone if you had one of those!

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

My buddy's dad had a bag phone when we were in high school

He would occasionally let him use it on the weekends. Just not too much – I think it was like $1000/min back then. But we were cool driving around in my friends convertible Mustang talking on the bag phone.

It still didn’t help us get laid, though.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

I would have thought that would have done the trick. The CB radio in my parent’s station wagon back in the ‘70s didn’t work either. LOL

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

event horizon approaches..

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Breaker breaker...

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 9, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

So did I

Curator of Dark Side of the Five Hole
I like our guys, especially these guys.
Unapologetic apologist for hockey South of the Mason/Dixon

by DesertHawk on Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

saggy titles!

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 9, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

My apologies

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I only disagree with the semi attractive part

definitely a face for radio.

"Knowledge is Good."

by SECORD3 on Feb 9, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I meant, I'm not surprised she didn't answer

because she would be throwing more rumor/speculation out there, and she doesn’t strike me as one who does that irresponsibly. Still, she’s a reporter so she has to “report” a story (as in, make it interesting!) and leaving a bit of a teaser like “the one on the hottest seat right now” is part of the business.

Do you ever have dejavu?
Didn't you just ask me that?

by Preacher000 on Feb 9, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

One area where I don't agree with Q criticism is the claim that he is impatient with his goalies this year.

I thought there were times when he tried to let Crawford ride though slumps, which I backed 100%.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

yeah i thought Q gave crow a lot of opportunities to come out on the other end of the slump

a few games after when even i thought emery should get a shot.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow

I agree, the goal tenders are what they are. Not sure he’s really screwed up in how he plays them. It’s his D and F position decisions that I think he needs to examine more closely.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

It’s like Q is playing mind games with us!

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

meh

not enough care in the care-meter to argue about goaltending

with the state of team defense as it is.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Fifth Feather, as always, makes several great points...

…the most compelling of which is, to me anyway, that nothing takes the piss out of a team faster than soft goals. I’m not saying it’s all on Crawford either…I’m more pissed at the “experts” in our front office and coaching staff who decided to hand over the keys to the kingdom based on extremely small sample size and an undistinguished minor league career.

by bluekoolaide on Feb 9, 2012 10:55 AM CST reply actions  

You can see the life drain

from the team as soon as we give up a softie. Some games it even feels like they start off thinking they have to score three or four to win because they know their will be a couple of softies a game against us.

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

Somebody made the point the other day that, based on the way he deals with things, goalie is not a big priority for Stanbow. He got VERY lucky two years in a row but this year his miscalculation has the possibility to cost him the season. A good goalie could easily have meant at least five more wins at this point. Those wasted opportunities could loom large at the end of the season.

The key question though is will he learn from his mistakes?

by bluekoolaide on Feb 9, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

We're the only team in the league without a shutout

When we won the Cup in 2010 we had the most shutouts in the league during the season.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?fetchKey=20122ALLSAAAll&sort=shutOuts&viewName=goalGames

Sometimes too much to drink is barely enough.

by capra on Feb 9, 2012 11:35 AM CST reply actions  

The defensive problems on this team

are far more about our forwards than our defensemen.

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I completely agree with this

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Feb 9, 2012 12:03 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I say it especially after the Colorado game.

Blue line turn-overs galore. Forwards cheating up-ice before we get control in the D-zone. Inability to create a scrum and the inability to come out with the puck when a scrum happens accidentally. Anyone who blames the D-men for the bulk of our D-problem has, in my opinion, expections for D-men that are way too high. They cannot be expected to cover for a myriad of mistakes.

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

It appears oftentimes that the forwards are skating around the defensive zone with no real purpose, assignments be damned. Particularly against a team with good puck movement. They seem to get flustered if they can’t gain possession the first 10 seconds the puck is in their zone.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Someone can check me on this

but I think there have been only 4 or 5 times that they’ve actually gone into the 3rd period without giving up a goal.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Feb 9, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

are we worst again?

sighhhh.

There’s just no excuse for all of our talent to be that bad. I suppose the PK is dragging Craw’s play around, but still. Isn’t it low even in SA/60?

looked it up myself, yes. dead last in SA/60 4v5 from BTN. 58 SA / 60

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

interestingly

though i don’t know how much it means, the best aspect, statistically, of our PK is our goaltending. Our .868 team sv% 4v5 clocks us in at #20. Every other aspect (SA/60, GA/60, +/-) ranks lower.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I was going more by the eye test

than by stats. Over the past few games I have noticed how agressively our opponents PK attacks our PP and how passive our PK is. That seems to be the exact opposite of 2010.

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

well

stats back it up. the PK sucks.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

they werent more aggressive...

They just had catfish out there blocking everything.

by Dranearian on Feb 9, 2012 12:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

BTW,

who were the goalies for the two PPGs?

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Feb 9, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I was wondering that too.

They didn’t say. But, since both goals scored from the point, I assume it was Craw.

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

even last year

he seemed vulnerable to those.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

The dreaded shot from the defensive zone!

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 9, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok heres a story that got me thinking

PD has this with the 7 d-man that can be had.

Chris Campoli
Andy Sutton
Jaroslav Spacek
Kyle Quincey
Pavel Kubina
Bryan Allen
Hal Gill

While none are big names, any intrest. And please fuck off Sutton

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 9, 2012 12:17 PM CST reply actions  

I hate comparisons but Gills reminds me of

Taller Sopel?

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 9, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

if he was uglier

he might repel people from our D-zone based on that alone

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

don't know how true this is but

Al Cimaglia tweeted:

After his last suspension an ex-teammate said Sutton used to try to hurt players in practice. Sounds like a real gem…

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Forget Kubina...

He’d be in way to close a proximity to Bolland and that might not turn out to good. “Clarice”

not really doing cart wheels over this list.

by wardrums on Feb 9, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to keep going back and looking at that list

because the second I can’t see it I immediately forget who’s on it.

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Hal Gill

Just do it already. Fits the need on the PK, might be questionable at even strength. None of the other guys are going to blow the water out of even strength anyways and they’ll likely cost more.

Wouldn’t have an issue with Campoli but I fear the idiots might boo him in his return.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck the idiots, who cares

Of all of those I’d take Campoli back.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 9, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

This

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Campoli doesn't kill penalties, fellas

While Hal Gill leads the Habs in ice time for the team that allows the fewest shots on net in the NHL while shorthanded.

More detailed explanation here.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunately

the rest of the time Gill is just a wee bit faster than Scott. So you can forget having him in a high tempo offense. Hence why I wouldn’t want him in Van. But please…take him.

Lead writer of nothing, commenter on everything.

by westy99 on Feb 9, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

You seen Sean O'Donnell skate?

I shit faster than him after eating a block of sharp cheddar.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

that's painful

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Feb 9, 2012 2:24 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Yeah, much worse than blunt cheddar

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 9, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

The one thing that would worry me is if

the hawks did land Gill, and then Q decides to have Gill and Scott as your 3rd pair

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 9, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

can't imagine if they both fell down at the same time

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 9, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that tandem would not

even reach the blue line before the Sun goes Supernova…

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

they'd hold hands and reach their other hands out to the boards, and no one could get into the zone

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 9, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

and then they form a circle

and kill it with love…

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

if the team of

toews-hossa-seabs-keith

has trouble on the PK, i don’t see how addition or subtraction can help.

Its a systems problem

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Allowing less shots to reach your goaltender

Means less chances that one gets behind him. Come on guys, this isn’t hard.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

my point is,

we have 4 all stars on our pk, plus hjarms, mayers, etc….

hal gill, while a good addition, isn’t going to completely alter the pk performance on his own. there is a larger problem.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Because I was curious and had to check

Here’s what the GAs on the kill look like. Here’s the GA/60. Indeed, Toews, Keith and Hossa struggle a bit. Seabs not so much.

The fact still remains, and you can point to system if you want but I’ll refute it to the death, the Blackhawks allow the most shots on net while shorthanded in the entire league. More shots, more goals. Lower the shot total, the goals will follow.

I will admit I was surprised to see Toews topping the GA/60 on the kill. That’s surprising. Keith not as much. Seabrook is doing OK. O’Donnell is serving the purpose he was brought here for. Leddy is unfathomably BAD. Replace Leddy with Gill in just shorthanded situations and I guarantee our kill improves.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

a
hal gill, while a good addition, isn’t going to completely alter the pk performance on his own. there is a larger problem.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

While I agree you noted the correct problem SOG-wise,

why do you think the SOG total is due to individuals rather than the system? I think its the style we are playing. Our forwards lay back and look to jump a passing lane for a shortie opportunity. That’s a very bad bet because while they are playing coy, they are giving up an inordinate amount of shots.

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

That's not to say our system isn't flawed

Because our head coach is definitely making curious decisions at best these days.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Which makes me wonder,

since he is a veteran coach who has been basically playing the same style for a number of years, is the change due to early-stage Alzheimers or is it based on directions from above?

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with this.

And with JMH too. The problem is the system. We play a very passive PK and that allows way too many shots to reach the net.

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Playoff presence

The silver lining to Gill: He is a monster come playoff times. He’s like the Claude Lemieux of Defensive D. When Montreal is in the playoffs he becomes one of the more valuable guys, what with his shot blocking, strength in crease clearing and overall positioning. And he’s a really good guy for the locker room/mentoring. We could do a lot worse than Hal Gill on the 3rd D line. Think of him as just a much, much bigger Sopel.

by PDiggy on Feb 9, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Lets get both

Send them another Tall guy in Scott = for Hal Gill and then give them Lepisto for Campoli

Come on…

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 9, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly though

I’d take Gill. He may be slower than all hell but at least he does the job on the PK and can move people out of the crease and block shots. I’d take Campoli back. He was solid here and if we are not giving that job over to Lepisto why not see if we can get him.

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 9, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Campoli? Ugh.

Why? Lepisto never freaking plays!!!

This reminds of fishing.

As most fisherman can tell you, finding the bait can be a challenge at times. Especially when I’m musky fishing. Often times my boat looks like this.

Baits everywhere.

A few times, I’ve changed baits before a single cast. This is so Q.

I get the feeling that most people aren’t going to get this. heh. aaaa fuck it.

by Skags on Feb 9, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm sure BigC is nodding sagely...

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

in all fairness, Musky fishermen tend to drive themselves to insanity….Yep, that’s Q

Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist

by BigCSouthside on Feb 9, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Love this analogy

When in doubt, Q throws the Hi-fin (John Scott). Not very productive, but hilarious to watch.
ploop….ploop….ploop….ploop

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 9, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

aaaand BCS wins the Internet..AGAIN..

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Like an over-sized wooly booger? Nice.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 9, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Its a big red two hooked articulated monster

most of the time the only thing that will attack it are pissed off post spawn bass, but those fish are like dudes with Tapout and Affliction shirts at bars, they will attack anything.

Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist

by BigCSouthside on Feb 9, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

so basically what im saying, is that fly is productive like for a month

and only in certain situations. Otherwise its in the Fly (Press) Box where it belongs.

Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist

by BigCSouthside on Feb 9, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

By a large margin over everyone on that list

Guy can flat out play D. He gets all aspects of the game and goes for 2:30 on the PP and PK. Can move the puck, decent size (6-2, 210).

I actually don’t believe the Avs would move him.

You are next.

by M7 on Feb 9, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Another scary (possibly irrelevant) Q number

0-5 carrer in playoffs against Detroit as a Head Coach

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

Is that series or game?

Because we won a game in the WCF in 2009.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Series.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

His record in playoff games against Detroit is 6-20.

Went 6 games twice with St. Louis. 5 games once with StL and the Hawks and got swept with Colorado.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Q

must hate scum more than at least as much we do.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I was just thinking the exact same thing.

He has lost more playoff series to Scum than any other team.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Another interesting link

I stumbled across this radio segment in the car last night. Though the website synopsis doesn’t say so, a lot of it was actually about the whole fighting issue. Being from the purely Canadian point of view it was a fairly different perspective than we get here in the states.
CBC Radio

by Paul the Fossil on Feb 9, 2012 1:10 PM CST reply actions  

so, next outing is in the Shark Tank

Which is where, during the Circus Trip, after a decent showing in Vancouver and Not Going To Alberta the Hawks put in, IMO, one of our best performances of the year in a losing effort. Which kind of kickstarted a pretty good run (I know there were some bumps along the way) I’d take the same again. Even if it means a longer losing streak, anything like the level of effort seen on our last trip to San Jose will be very, very welcome.

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 1:57 PM CST reply actions  

Isn't sad that it has gotten so bad

that we are now resigned to hoping for “good” losses? But I agree. It would be nice to see how the Hawks AHL roster stacks up against an actual NHL roster.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

oh, don't get me wrong

I’m hoping we DLR those Folks in Far Cali-Forn-I-Ay… but I’d be pleased with the sort of balls we showed last time we were there..

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

heh

like the pic, BTW!

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

New Burzum in May :)

Yours makes me think of the final Boss from Marvel vs Capcom 3 when I see it small like that.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 9, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

sharks looked like shit vs calgary

very blackhawk like in defensive lapses and turnovers

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 9, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm still waiting for the game

Where the offense wakes up and tears through the opponent to the tune of 7-9 goals with a 5+ goal margin for win so we can have a true DLR game. This team is capable of it and deserves it…here’s to hoping we do that Friday.

by BodomSlayer on Feb 9, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

with you on that one. my friend

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah people always say to me

“Hey, you drink to run away from your problems..”

and I say

“I’m way too shitfaced to run anywhere right now”

Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist

by BigCSouthside on Feb 9, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

there's some mighty fine fishing to be done

in Ireland…. just sayin..

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

oh yeah, thats on my bucket list

hit Ireland and Scotland with the Spey Rod

Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist

by BigCSouthside on Feb 9, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

well, if you do..

make sure to pack a spare liver…

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

just to share a Tweet (well, a retweet)

that CTA just put up

I want the #Blackhawks to trade for Tim Thomas just to have Joey the Junior Reporter ask him political questions.

funny? yes, yes it is…

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:02 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

hah, that'd certainly be something.

i just want more Joey period. Him trolling fans (and Hartnell) at the ASGs was hilarious.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

OT... has anybody else see this shit?

Tazer Ball

Apparently these goons are trying to pass it off as a legit sport.

National Post

You are next.

by M7 on Feb 9, 2012 3:03 PM CST reply actions  

What the holy hell?

I wonder if DTM started up that league

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I forgot about that dude

where he been? We were primed for trolling the past few days

Nymphin' Ain't Easy Fly Fishing
Back off man, I'm a scientist

by BigCSouthside on Feb 9, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

He was Ban-TOFTBO'd

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

And we thought hockey had problems

Half that league would be dead of erotic asphyxiation – by 40!

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 9, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

YOU

have NO IDEA about what makes Professional Tazer-ball players tick. Ay Carumba. If you had a SEASON ticket like me and watched Tazer-Ball with REAL TB FANS you would realise, somewhere in your tiny, tiny brain that not only is it RIGHT that TB players die before 40 in situations that are really embarassing for the maid, but that , WIIIIIILLLLMAAAAAAA, League rules STIPULATE it.
fart
It’s so hard DEALING with the likes of you. Heavens to Murgatroyd.

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Bolland does NOT sport

Non-lethal weapons, especially during a game..

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

he's sharpened it some more since...

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

i didn't actually see it, but read about it here. i'm pissed he did that and glad it didn't connect

i like my bolland ratty but not dirty in the way that is dangerous.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah that was shitty

Luckily, it was a half-assed attempt with the knee. It was lazy.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

In the words of the ToS

No, no, no, no, no

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Bummed the Hawks not playing today

I am really in the need of some killer Hawks Hockey, the lack of it makes me more irritable then usual.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 3:18 PM CST reply actions  

hi TMFF..

would you like a cup of tea? No? Cool. How about another pillow? Is it warm enough in here for you? Enough light to read by? Everything OK? (walks on eggshells)

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Now that you made me make a cup of tea (Black, orange pekoe & pekoe)

Everything in Hockeyland is fine, except the fact the Hawks have not won since January 20. Been a stressful week at work and in my other interest.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

fuck

that’s really true.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

According to the beat today at practice

67-19-81, 10-16-88, 29-36-65, 15-17-25

I have no words.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 9, 2012 3:24 PM CST reply actions  

Well... they are losing.

I could be okay with trying this out so long as #25 and #65 switched places.

You are next.

by M7 on Feb 9, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

No Jamal in there is odd’ish. Perhaps they were just rolling the dice at practice with people stricken with the flu bug?

You are next.

by M7 on Feb 9, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Via Jahns

Here

Also 17 and 22 are rotating in out of that line. Looks like Morrison is the odd-man out, at least for today.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 9, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I really hope that's your numbers

in the Illinois Lottery rather than anything we’re going to see on the ice…

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I really only have one issue here

The fuck is Viktor Stalberg doing to get demoted to the 4th line? If anyone should be going to the big boys and throwing Q under the bus, it’s him. Dude has been playing his ass off for weeks and Q is dropping him to 3rd and 4th line duty.

Would not think twice about defending Vik if he told Q to fuck off.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That's my big problem

Even if you view lines without having numbers or ranks, Stalberg has proven he should be on a scoring line.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Feb 9, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

this. way to kill the kid's buzz..

also the Jammer thing.. although, as M7 pointed out, maybe he’s sick. Definitely doesn’t deserve demotion

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't it the same before the Avs game?

The lines looked all fucked the day before, then shortly after the game started Stalberg was back to the top line

by WhySoSeriousCaptain on Feb 9, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

In spite of the losses

it makes me happy that so many people are bothered by Stalberg being dropped from the scoring lines. And by so many, I mean more than just me. :)

But keep in mind, he trotted out crazy lines earlier in the week then went back to 25-19-88 when the game started.

by Katherine215 on Feb 9, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah.

i’m keeping the ‘practice’ thing in mind too..

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe just seeing if some line makes beautiful music in practice to try in a game?

Get them out of their comfort zones? At this point, does it really matter?

by Katherine215 on Feb 9, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Does it matter?

To me, yes, it really does.Because this is what Q has been doing all year and the thing that more and more people are getting bothered by. Practice is the time to figure your shit out and throwing out lines that you aren’t going to use in the games just because your lines aren’t gelling is the exact same thing that has happened all year. The Hawks need consistency, in their play, in their message, in their approach and in their lines.

Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^

by TazerNation19 on Feb 9, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

he's done it his entire career.

the line juggling is not responsible for the slump. If he wasn’t juggling, everyone would be bitching he needs to try something new. There’s no winning when you’re losing like this (that is not meant to be the silly statement it sounds like on first read).

by Katherine215 on Feb 9, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I know Q has been doing it forever

and I think it’s starting to take a toll on our players, it’s the only adjustment made by Q and staff, my point is that he has tried this throughout his career and I don’t think it has worked like he thinks it has or will. This throw whoever with whoever thing to see if it works for a little while doesn’t give our players a chance to understand their teammates play style which, imo, goes a long way towards building chemistry

Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^

by TazerNation19 on Feb 10, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I think the effect on the players

is a bit overstated. These guys are professionals and most have been playing together for going on two seasons, if not more. Q may juggle more than other coaches, but all coaches juggle their lines, especially during a 6 game losing streak.

by Katherine215 on Feb 10, 2012 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

totally agree

i got no problem with the line generator, or “empirical, optimal talent-matching heuristic” as I like to think of it.

It’s shit like special teams and team philosophy that bug me. If Hawk forwards are evacuating the zone early, is that by design? Someone mentioned this odd contradiction about Q: on one hand, he seems to prefer size, grit, and defensive responsibility. But, under his direction, the team has gone from allowing the fewest shots in the league to a team that has to outscore the opposition, without a significant turnover of key talent.

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Feb 10, 2012 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree on special teams and philosophy,

though I think I put more on the players not executing the philosophy rather than it not being coached. I kind of lean toward leaving the zone early being something the players themselves have gotten in the habit of, or the newer forwards haven’t accepted needs to be done night in, night out, shift after shift.

But let’s be honest: the talent level of guys like Versteeg and Ladd and even Buff hasn’t been replicated. I love me some Stalberg, but he and Frolik and Kruger aren’t as talented (yet?) as what we lost two years ago. Maybe the bottom guys just aren’t able to play the scheme the coaching staff wants them to play, and the coaches haven’t adapted to that yet or are still dedicated to teaching it. Special teams I agree is scheme, but you can’t say they haven’t tried to fix it.

by Katherine215 on Feb 10, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

fair points

although if, e.g., the forwards are leaving the zone too early on their own, shouldn’t the coach be able to identify and fix this?

So, I looked at the SF/G and SA/G numbers over the past three years. It’s not quite as bad as I was thinking:

SA/G SF/G Difference
25.1 34.1 9.0
28.7 32.2 3.5
29.5 32.2 2.7

At the risk of beating a dead horse, that 2009-10 team was pretty good: #1 in fewest shots allowed and #1 in most shots taken. Damn- the Hawks must have controlled the puck 40 minutes a night.

I say this year doesn’t look so bad because they’re still #11 in fewest shots allowed and #6 in shots taken.

Still, the trend is ominous, but you are correct that changing personnel explains at least part of this. maybe a lot.

I guess my main point is that I always thought of Q as a “defense first” coach, but that doesn’t seem to mesh with the reality.

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Feb 10, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

A slightly better 3rd d pairing

(6th dman?) that blocks a few more shots and I think the numbers are closer. I agree on your perception vs reality of Q, but I do think it’s possible he’s still teaching/correcting it and it just hasn’t translated in performance. If it was so easy to get players to fix problems and break bad habits, teams wouldn’t slump, right?

by Katherine215 on Feb 10, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe it's just my personal prejudice then

I have never really been a fan of it, and with the poor results, I like to think they are related. Like Cliff said, they have also started allowing more shots under Q, and as far as I can tell, he hasn’t changed in the last two years how the defensive system works. Just because it worked in ‘10 doesn’t mean it works for this team. I mean it’s largely not the same team besides the core

Chicago homer since conception in '87
The best and fastest way to learn a sport is to watch and imitate a champion.
-- Jean-Claude Killy
Cannots take note^

by TazerNation19 on Feb 10, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

We talkin about practice, man.

I mean, practice. Are we talking about practice? We are talking about practice.

by Skags on Feb 9, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

haha

Rec.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 9, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

A few games ago,

Frolik was on Toews’ line. Instead of improving his play, his ineptness on offense brought the line down. I thought it was a bad move then and even worse now.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Feb 9, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't like him there either. Kills our flow with wristers from the faceoff circle.

But I’m just trying to explain a possible scenario involving Q’s thought process and the thought originated with Frolik rather than Stalberg.

by SludgeFeast on Feb 9, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Abso-fuckin-lutely right J.M.H.

If Stalberg finds himself on the 3rd or 4th line than Q really has lost his fuckn’ mind. Q seems like a senior citizen punk holding grudges to actions that he has made up in his mind. Also, 22 better not be sitting.

"Knowledge is Good."

by SECORD3 on Feb 9, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

That's certainly

going to create plenty of GA opportunities.

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

No shit

Can’t wait to see Joe Thornton out there taking faceoffs against all 175 lbs of Marcus Kruger while Joe Pavelski throws Patrick Kane around like a rag doll and Desjardins is locking down Patrick Sharp.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

why in fuck

would you put “Mr. End Possession” with Toews and Hossa?

And Stally gets a demotion.

by oregon_hawk on Feb 9, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Last time I saw him with 19/81

He kept fucking up on great passes that were thrown at him :/

by tekeetakshak on Feb 9, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

i do not like this, sam i am

why is stals on the 4th. why is frolik on the 1st. if shaw often runs out of position to make a hit or whatever, is the checking line the best place for him? why would you sit mayers. why why why

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks.

so there’s a chance we’re already going to be sitting morrison though?

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

oh. I see.

You put the guy playing the best hockey on the team on the 4th line. That’s probably a good idea. You should limit his ice time to 8 – 10 minutes. Good thinking.

/clinches teeth.

by Skags on Feb 9, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

It's just a diversion.

His actual plane are much more diabolical.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

*plans

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I LOVE you, man

(Bro-hugs from 4,000 miles away)

and yer right, as usual

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy Shit

A greened comment! It has been a long while since I had one of those!!!!

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

It was well-deserved

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

WOW!

Maybe we can get Q to eat a thousand Crispy Cremes and pretend he’s Hitchcock!

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 9, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I know nobody wants to rehash this, but for the record...

David poile said “I know goaltending hasn’t been the most consistent position in the league”. That was exactly the point I was trying to make.

by lobster on Feb 9, 2012 3:59 PM CST reply actions  

Hey Lobster!

Let me pour you a drink! Hey, we’re done talking hockey for the day. The new topic is the pairing of Huckleberry Hound with SpongeBob.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

They can't mate

It’s biologically impossible. They can only be companions.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

They could adopt, right?

But would they adopt a dog, or a sponge?

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 9, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Try bringing yourself back to a little place I like to call reality.

There are no adoption agencies for sponges! Sheesh! Obviously they’d adopt a dog.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

of course.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Ya, I did get a little carried away there.

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 9, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

So has anyone heard about the supposed unrest in the locker room

among the players?

Supposedly, a current player vented to a former player about several current players being pissed off and very unhappy with the coaching staff’s defensive scheme. Which at that time was then leaked out to the media.

I’m not sure if anyone is unhappy or pissed for sure, but I do agree that the defensive scheme has sucked major ya yas!

No worries, this was the plan all along!
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by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:09 PM CST reply actions  

yeah..

I’ve seen a wee bit of that on the twittargh.. for the sake of my sanity I don’t follow the 300-Level.. so, I dunno?

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard it from a friend.

Wasn’t sure how much if any truth there was to it. Although I must say I wouldn’t be surprised to find out it was true.

No worries, this was the plan all along!
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by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Just going out on a limb here but...

allowing the other team to score too many goals?

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

The part where they let in too many goals.

Other than that I have no issues with it.

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

E3

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just yankin' your chain.

But my guess is that the source would be just as reputable.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't visit too many other Hawks sites

what is E3?

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Not a Hawks site

HockeyBuzz’s resident rumor mill douchewad, Ecklund. He rates the reliability ridiculousness of his rumors with his own system: E1, E2, etc.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Eklund*

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Eklund Ranging?

What does that have to do with hockey?

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

This is what I think

When I see Eklund (consequence of my current job)

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

that was f'n fascinating...

but Submarine Service is still terrifying to me (I’ve watched Das Boot) I’m also way too tall for it!

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I would rather be 400+ feet under water for 2-3 months at a shot, then being shot at

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

tru, dat

but when they get shot at it’s horrendous… maybe still working off a WWII perspective rather than the modern Fleet.. have you seen Das Boot BTW? There’s one scene in that movie that hills me to the bone (as someone from a Navy family)

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

*chills* duh

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes I have seen "Das Boot"

It is very much the same, but also very different. We have unlimited power (Nuclear) and therefore can go as fast as we can for as long as we want and also go much deeper, and our weapons have longer ranges. So in some aspects it still reflects how it is, but in others it (for me) is much different then how it is.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, yeah..

I know the modern Submarine Fleet is a very different kettle of fish.. but, just to refer to the movie, wasn’t that scene where they torpedoed a ship and then couldn’t pick up the sailors in the water horrible? It was beautifully done in the movie because it just went against the grain for sailors.. the No1 enemy is the Sea…

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

What can you do?

We can’t pick them up, for many reasons.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

and that was what made that scene so horrible/powerful..

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

but not 400+ feet under water AND being shot at

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 9, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

If that happens

That means I (and I mean me) royally fucked up!

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I blame you for the losing streak.

Since you called the nine goals in the first Oil game an anomaly and removed them from your stats, the universe was waiting to get back at you.

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

You have me mistaken for a meathead

I clearly argued you can’t remove it from the stats and though it was only one game and it really fucking sucked, the numbers had to be taken as they were and used as any other game.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

my nephew is 6'4"

and is on a sub as we speak. The commander of sub school was 6’10"

by pang off the post on Feb 9, 2012 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope he's minding his head

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Capt. McHale left last year.

What boat is he on, what is his rate?

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully. ΙΧΘΥΣ
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

uss oklahoma city

not sure about his rate. He joined out of HS 2 years ago

by pang off the post on Feb 9, 2012 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

OK City, out of Norfolk.

Good chance I ran into him a few times, I’m and Sonar Senior Chief instructor at SUBSCOL in CT(more advanced stuff then what he would have done though). Been here for over 2 years now as an instructor.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully. ΙΧΘΥΣ
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

imagine, if you dare...

Jaeckel and Eklund combining their powers to make a Megazord Of Meathead Masturbation….

JAECKLUND! Tremble before his ability to trade Kane for dat Brubglyunchgryylieyn Guy and Sopel!

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Able to leap common sense and actual knowledge

with a single keystroke!

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

is it a bird?

is it a plane? no.. it’s ‘The Man Of Shite!’

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

The band from my high school was in that movie.

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

In the parade? Cool

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, Lockport Township High School.

No worries, this was the plan all along!
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by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Lockport?

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a Porter in our midst!

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 9, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

That's right!

Maroon & Gold. All their glory in sports came either before or after I graduated though.

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

The only town in Illinois

that celebrates the historic significance of an over sized ditch with a 3 day drinking binge known as “Canal Days”

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait just one minute!

There’s a place celebrates a ditch with a 3 day drinking binge and nobody told me?

WHAT THE HELL???

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 9, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

And worse yet, only 5 minutes from my house!

When does this event take place?

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 9, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

ha! Nice. ( I loved that game)

Let's Go Hawks!

by K_Dog on Feb 9, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha!

funny

"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.

by Hawkynite! on Feb 9, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Gotta disagree

Anyone who faces six (!!!) 2 on 1 breaks is going to look a little shitty.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

But I’d argue the second Jones goal was savable and the long Landeskog goal wasn’t exactly unstoppable either.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Back to the quote of the day.
Whoever sucks less come playoff time will be in net.

How else will we know which one sucks less if we don’t play them each every other game?

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

also...

Crow is still our starter…

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

well, yes..

Crow is #1.. it would be unfair on Razor to expect him to be more than a backup.. it’s not like the previous years where #2 has been a ‘hot rookie’.. this time we have no other option than to back what we have.. and the Man From France…

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

You just never know

We may end up seeing both of our goalies in net tomorrow night

SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)

by stacie7 on Feb 9, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

At the same time?

And in my last hour, I'm a slave to the power of death.

by T-Bo on Feb 10, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

So sayeth the guy that Rebecca Romijn rebuffed
Jesse Rogers @ESPNChiHawks
Crawford in goal tomorrow

No idea what’s going on. None. I’m out of straws. Hurricane Joel is blowing my house of rationality and sense over. I’m not sure how much longer until I have to evacuate.

Someone pour me a drink. Stat. Gonna keel over here.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Here you go sir

best scotch in the house.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Please elaborate...

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 9, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Macallan 1926

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

nor in Lockport

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 9, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Found a place in Libertyville

That serves Highland Park 25yr. They might have this too.

The more you know!

by RVW5000 on Feb 10, 2012 8:29 AM CST up reply actions  

It's up to $75,000

and it ranks third on this list
Most Expensive Scotch

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Feb 10, 2012 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Please tell me you're fucking with me.

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Games on successive nights

My guess: caution about Emery’s hip etc is part of the calculation. Razer starts one game, Crow the other.

Hey! I take penumbrage at that!

by ratbite on Feb 9, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Also, Montador is doubtful

Looks like Sami Lepisto better get his skates buzzed.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 4:24 PM CST reply actions  

Scott, duh.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't know why

but that got a belly laugh from me

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

it’s funny because it’s true.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

If you can't laugh at it

you’ll wind up in a nut house or on death row, if we still had one of those…

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

No

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

sure

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

If it's Scott and O'Donnell

Count me out. Watching will just make me an enabler.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

i'll watch it while weeping.

i can’t not watch

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

As much as I'm hoping for a strong performance

leading to a win I’ll be expecting more of the same leading to…………well, more of the same.

All the same, GO HAWKS!

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm gonna stay positive

they’ve hit their rock bottom and now have to go up. they just have to

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope your right.

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SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

It's on WGN

So I’ll be watching it on a grainy peice of shit feed. With no DVR. Torture, I tell ya.

by Skags on Feb 9, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm hoping since Hjammer's been sick

they’ll actually dust Sami off since they might need someone to pick up extra minutes if Hjammer keels over from flu after effects during the game.

by Katherine215 on Feb 9, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel like people are expecting too much from lepisto now.

I am all for trying him out but I don’t expect much at all out of him.

by lobster on Feb 9, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it is natural to think he could be a savior though, and he just isn't going to be that.

I know this blog said he wasn’t going to be a savior but I still think the unknowns about his game (because he hasn’t played in so long and has played rarely when he has played) give us this hope that he could potentially be a bit of a savior, when realistically he cannot.

by lobster on Feb 9, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

truly, i really can't think of one person who thinks he will be a savior in any capacity

what i do think is that he is better then john scott, that his stats/play on other teams show he can play more minutes which lessens the load on our top guys, and that that he may actually be able to help us and probably won’t hurt us.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe it is just me then.

When it comes to the hawks I tend to think with wishful thinking and it gets me into trouble. Not that I would convince myself he would be a good top 4 or anything but I would convince myself a throw away for phoenix and columbus would be a solid, campoli-esque d man in chicago.

He is without question better than scott and certainly worth a chance given the way the defense has looked so far this year.

by lobster on Feb 9, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

^ This

Kind of see Lepisto at this point as : “If life hands you lemons… put them in your bra. Couldn’t hurt; might help!”

www.hockeybroad.com - Just because I'm female, doesn't mean I want my sports gear to be pink.

by HockeyBroad on Feb 9, 2012 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

when life hands me lemons, can I put them in your bra?

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 10, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

All he has to do is not suck.

That, and be more active than a pylon.

And playing more than 10 min TOI would be good too.

www.hockeybroad.com - Just because I'm female, doesn't mean I want my sports gear to be pink.

by HockeyBroad on Feb 9, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll be back around morning skate tomorrow

I can’t handle any more hockey today. Feel like I’m being mind-fucked over here.

by JesusMarianHossa on Feb 9, 2012 4:35 PM CST reply actions  

Hmmm

The Powerplay was the Blackhawks’ focus at Wednesday’s practice.

Who is that I see diagramming the backdoor play on the whiteboard? Oh hey it’s Kitchen.
/hang self

by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Feb 9, 2012 4:41 PM CST reply actions  

To be fair

We’re pretty good at letting goals get into our own net in actual games too.

by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Feb 9, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

It's foolproof!

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

But

I thought we were trading Pat

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

No not him

The other Pat! Pay attention!

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

So who fills in for Pat when Pat is gone?

Pat? Maybe John?

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Apparently

we can give both pats for Ryan Miller.

"There are rough players and there are dirty players. I'm rough and dirty."

by YouFeelShame II on Feb 9, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard that

And it was “stupid” of people to balk at the proposal of Kaner AND Stalz for Miller! IMO it sounds like a good trade……………………………………………..for BUF at least.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I read that they were

actually celebrating goals they scored in practice.

Probably in case they have forgotten how to.

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I read that too.

I was thinking, is scoring against our PK so difficult that it is worth celebrating?

by stanfordron on Feb 9, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I always wonder how they practice

either special team since most of the people who play on them play on both, not one or the other.

Anyway, pretty sure Havy had the PP earlier in the season, so why not have Kitchen work on it?

by Katherine215 on Feb 9, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel part of the problem is all the pressure they are now feeling from the fans and media

its like when you know there is a problem, but everyone constantly harping on it and pointing it out gets you all flustered and frustrated and impedes progress.

Not that it could be avoided, but it certainly exacerbates the issue.

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 9, 2012 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

i clearly said it wasnt avoidable

more stating its more of a natural reaction that happens before progress

by putmeinthemadhouse on Feb 9, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess my point is outside pressure should help also though.

Listening to the players in winnipeg talk about how much more accountable they feel in winnipeg as compared to atlanta because of the outside pressure exemplifies that as well.

by lobster on Feb 9, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

eh, not all players/teams react the same.

that was my whole point with mhsilver. they can say, hey we feel so much more accountable and end up playing tighter because of it. On the other side of it, some players really thrive in that situation. these things are not one size fits all situations or solutions.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup. Different at different times too.

While some players may like the accountability in the big scheme of things I can’t imagine anybody enjoys the heat in a 6 game losing streak.

That pressure could certainly add some heat to an unwanted fire.

by lobster on Feb 9, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly. some will thrive and some can slump even worse because it causes more stress

and just because one (ex) player felt like that, he doesn’t have the ability to speak for or read the mind of anyone else.

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

That is true.

It is so tough to statistically figure it out too because the teams without a lot of pressure are generally bad but they also don’t have anywhere near the same resources that the teams with media pressure do, for the most part.

by lobster on Feb 9, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah i don't see how it could be possible to be honest

too many factors to just attribute a win or a lost to the mental fortitude of multiple players

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 9, 2012 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

It's human nature

Just like the D’s erosion of confidence in Crawford and Crawford’s in the D’s. When you get hung out to dry as a goalie as often as Crow has it is gonna’ happen and when your goalie lets in soft goals and continues to not make key saves at key moments the same thing happens to an extent. All of a sudden there in the back of your mind is a little voice saying “Shit, he isn’t gonna make this save to keep us in the game I better go and help” or “Shit, they aren’t gonna clear this puck I’m gonna help out a bit”

No worries, this was the plan all along!
SCH resident medicinal resource

by Tuke on Feb 9, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

They are and have been

on the road.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Feb 9, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Uh-oh

Is this the kiss of death for CBJ?

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 5:57 PM CST reply actions  

Latest body count?

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Feb 9, 2012 6:02 PM CST reply actions  

still not enough..

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

NEW FLASH

According to NASA, NOAA and Bob down the street, the Sun will rise in the East in the morning. Though its view may be obscured by clouds, precipitation or some Jack Ass with a truck, fully educated experts and Bob have assured all, it will rise nonetheless, and it will still be hot!

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully.
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 6:06 PM CST reply actions  

say wha?

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Let me 'splain it

The Sun will Rise in the East = The World has not ended as we know it (i,e. the Hawks season is NOT over)

Because the Sun rises in the morning = It is a new day, yesterday is gone as with all the rest of the past. Look to today and now and take control of it and not live in the past (i,e. Hawks get over the loses, play for tonight on forward)

Because the sun is still hot = It is still full of fuel (i,e. Hawks your tanks are not empty, play like it!)

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully. ΙΧΘΥΣ
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope

The fall from grace of the Blackhawks is the last sign of the coming darkness. He who waits in Ryl’yeh dreaming shall wake and usher in an eternity of darkness and insanity. He who shall not be named will usher in madness by allowing Vancouver to win the chalice of Stanley, and his laughter will echo through Blackhawks fans skulls until all reason is lost.

by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Feb 9, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

You and your funny foreign speaking stuff

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully. ΙΧΘΥΣ
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

you know I know what you mean...

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

There are meatheads abound

It was for THEIR benefit.

Since I did not scream SHOOT, HIT HIM or TRADE SOMEONE, I figure they may have been lost in the parable.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully. ΙΧΘΥΣ
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

speaking of meatheads

one of the empty suits on Chicago Tribune Live suggested that one of the keys to our losing streak is the play of Marian Hossa and the lack of effort. Saying that he couldn’t replicate the play that Kris Versteeg use to bring to this team.

Head asplode!

"There are rough players and there are dirty players. I'm rough and dirty."

by YouFeelShame II on Feb 9, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

You...

I don’t…
But he’s Marian H….
….What?

by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Feb 9, 2012 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Exactly. I can understand people “having their own opinions” (pffft, overrated) and all that crap, but damn, has this guy even watched a Hawks game??

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

...

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Ummm....

Well I……….
Hmmmmmmmm…………
Huh??
What the Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll, lemming and bully. ΙΧΘΥΣ
Just F***ING WIN!!!

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 9, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I could almost start "speaking in tongues"

in fact..

is iad na bhfocail a labhartha innui comh bhroum an dreolin.. cad a tharla sibh? Gan aon fhios agam!

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

What the fuck kind of a moron could possibly say that with a straight face?

He needs his sports journalism card revoked, his man card revoked, and should be checked for brain damage post haste.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

basically...

this, by an excellent Chicago Musician : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxbTRh1o_RU

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 9, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Very nice

I likes me some Steve Albini guitar

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Bartl was on TV?

SCH, a softer, kinder place to comment on violent sports.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 9, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe it was

phil rogers of the trib

"There are rough players and there are dirty players. I'm rough and dirty."

by YouFeelShame II on Feb 9, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

yecchh!

washed up old hack

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

too bad I can't tweet him or something for that

comment that i am left with no words for

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 9, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Which one? Kaplan?

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"

by Joe Banks on Feb 9, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually no - the sun doesn't rise at all

It is an illusion created by our fixed place on the surface of a rotating planet circling the sun.
The sun is (effectively, for the purposes of this discussion) standing still. *

*Yes, in actuality, the sun is moving as a part of the rotation of the galaxy….oh, fuck it, never mind

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 10, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

but

at least the galaxy is standing still, right?

and what about the turtles?

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Feb 10, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

“It’s turtles all the way down.”

!

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 10, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly!

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 10, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Just Watched the Low Lights...

I was out of country and missed the Colorado game. Just watched the low lights. Emery has to stop goals #3 and #4. Has to. Keith was a disaster and Seabs was always 5 seconds too late helping him out. How far away has 2 moved from Norris trophy material?

The two Patricks… these two are our Marketing Genius’ most popular kids, and neither of them are playing hard for 60 minutes night in and night out. Kaner had a pretty good game, but shooter was a disinterested mess. Zero effort on multiple occasions in our own end. Even after a 4 game losing streak. Hear’s an idea… why not only reward effort with a chance to play on the PP? It couldn’t get worse than 0-17. And it might WAKE SOMEONE UP!

I am not interested in trading anybody, but it might be interesting to take an A off of someone’s sweater if the effort doesn’t improve. I would be happy right now with those two letters going to #81 and #22. Anyone that doesn’t see the effort from those two every night isn’t watching hockey.

by NiemiNation on Feb 9, 2012 6:51 PM CST reply actions  

I just watched the new Spiderman trailor

And read your post like they were scripted parts and with the same background music… well, it was very entertaining.

EMERY HAS TO STOP GOALS #3 and #4. He has to. Or we lose the city.

by Skags on Feb 9, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I look at the "kanes not scoring" thing

and then think of Gomez and that usually made me feel better. Over a year with out a goal

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 9, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

at $7 mil a year, no?

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 10, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Good objective hockey discussion has gone out the window

This blog is devolved into something juvenile. There are sacred cows for some of you, and if anyone dare state objective things then the anoymous Internet toughies get their dander up and the conversation gets gobbled up with that. Either that or a bunch of macho men tell us how drunk they are getting because they found the keys to mom’s booze cabinet.

Sigh. It would be nice if this blog returned to is roots of being a decent venue for unvarnished discussion of the NHL and Blackhawks. And I get it that so many of you have wondrous photoshop capabilities. Like that adds to the discussion.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Feb 9, 2012 8:56 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

If it's so miserable here, why do you keep coming back?

Would you repeatedly slam your dick in a car door?

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Not repeatedly, no, of course. Duh. But me, hell, I’d try anything once.

P.S. I used to like Tim Thomas, just a few short months ago I liked him. Now, he and his facebook page can go fuck themselves.

(Neither of these 2 comments is directed at you, IndianHead.)

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Feb 9, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Is that physically possible for the average male?

Just saying

If you must scream to get noticed, maybe you should whisper instead

by Z-man24 on Feb 9, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

The repeatedly part?

No, not for the average male. But for the masochist, I guess so.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

or a Mini Cooper

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Minis are damned solid little cars - they'll mess you up big time

not like those recyled Bud cans…like a Smart or a Yaris

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 10, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I love sacred cows

if you maranade them just right and grill them to perfection

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 10, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

So you're pissed because CNS

pointed out that you just spout shit off with no regard for what you’ve said in the past, and that you’re not some fucking future-seeing guru? Chill out.

by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Feb 9, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I blame all the Nuck fans

who lurk at this blog. Those bastards are all smug and its bound to infect others.

Lead writer of nothing, commenter on everything.

by westy99 on Feb 9, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 9, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I am telling Stacie you said that

Lead writer of nothing, commenter on everything.

by westy99 on Feb 9, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I can read you know

and I’m not one of those 50% he means. At least I better not be >={

SCH moderator. I'm the nice one. Really, I am. (you can quit laughing now)

by stacie7 on Feb 9, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely right!

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: A riot ist an ugly ting und I tink it is chust about time ve had vun! Get those Nuck fans!

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Feb 9, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah!

wait…um…

Lead writer of nothing, commenter on everything.

by westy99 on Feb 9, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike Martin - hear! hear!

the early days were raucous grand – and very diffusely focused – good fun

We’ve settled down quite a lot here since then

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 10, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I blame only myself

…….and Tallon’s fax machine

Ver™

by ccm on Feb 10, 2012 7:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I blame only myself

…….and Tallon’s fax machine

Ver™

by ccm on Feb 10, 2012 7:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Well said...

Flec’d

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 10, 2012 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I have learned more about the game on this site, and gotten better insight on the game here than anywhere else, even with all the porn jokes and photoshops.

Amen.

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Feb 10, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

it is doubly wonderful for that

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 10, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Hear! hear!

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 10, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Whoop!

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 10, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I have had it with the lazyass media going full-on Meatball

Besides the garbage spouted on Comcrap this evening, the person responsible for the back page of today’s Sun-Times should never EVER have anything to do with sports in ANY city; that was a fucking disgrace along with all the eulogies in the pages after. I am ready for someone in this organization to go “Lee Elia” on this pathetic press corps and you can start with Rogers who really seems to be enjoying talking about losing.

by CjSax on Feb 9, 2012 10:17 PM CST reply actions  

100% agreed.

There is a reason the Sun Times will always be a second rate newspaper.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 9, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

The Indianhead with a tear on it's cheek?

What was so heinous about that? A hell of a lot more clever than Chris “Chrissy” Pronger in a skirt. I didn’t read Telander’s article, but Jahns’ basically said they needed to go after a forward rather than a Dman, since the D market is so thin. That’s a eulogy?

by Katherine215 on Feb 10, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Forget the eulogy part.

It’s just a little pathetic that a team within 6 points of home ice advantage is supposedly laying in a smokin ruins.

Also, Rick Telender is an evil human being – see the Probert book.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 10, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

What was the Telander story again?

something about Probert’s drug use, I know, but I can’t remember the details.

by Katherine215 on Feb 10, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't have the book in front of me.

But I recall it being something like Probert had just gotten out of rehab and was getting ready to join the Blackhawks. The Hawks asked him to do some PR for the team so Telender arranges to meet Probert at a restaurant.

Probert gets there and Telender puts a shot in front of him and tells him to go ahead – basically daring him to take the drink. He then told Probert he had some nose candy and that Probert could have it right there and then if he wanted it – he was testing Probert’s commitment to sobriety – which I think is incredibly fucked up to do to a guy just days out of rehab.

I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem

by HjammerTime on Feb 10, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

That was Telander writing that steaming pile of excrement.

Typical meathead bullshit from someone who doesn’t know the game, doesn’t follow the game, never writes about the game and seemingly wrote that article just to meet a deadline and grabbed at the lowest hanging fruit.
Apparently Mr. Telander feels that the opportunity for the Hawks to have a period of sustained greatness has been flushed down the commode because they didn’t win the cup again last year, this season is a complete washout because of the current losing streak and the prospect of any future success with their core of young talent has been squandered because Stan’s fucked the roster completely to hell and they’ll never recover from it.
Maybe he should just stick to writing what he knows about, like his glory days on the NorthWestern football team.

"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter

by nextgame on Feb 10, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

with the Capocalypse, last year was inevitably going to be retrograde from the Cup year

the genius of the StanBo (and DaddyBO, I suspect) gameplan for weathering the Capocalypse was positioning the team to bounce back well somewhere in Years 2-4 Post Cup

Preseason, it looked like they might be thee or near-there this year….now, there’s reasonable doubt (not not certainty of missing).

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Feb 10, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

...
Maybe he should just stick to writing what he knows about, like his glory days on the NorthWestern football team.

See if you can guess what I am now.

by IndianHeadCrest on Feb 10, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I have just recently started reading Bleacher Report

And with every article I start viewing it more as fan fiction than any sort of reliable media content.

by PatricktheGreat88 on Feb 9, 2012 11:15 PM CST reply actions  

your first problem
I have just recently started reading Bleacher Report

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 9, 2012 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

You have to forgive me...

I’ve been in the process of medical retirement from the Army the last 12 months, and my job has been to sit at a desk for 8 hours a day supervising two people answering one phone. I was running out of things to read, I swear! Haha

BUT! I get on a plane back to sweet home Chicago next Friday! I have tix to see the Hawks play the Wild April 1st!

by PatricktheGreat88 on Feb 10, 2012 12:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Welcome back PG88

Thank you for your service.

Hey! I take penumbrage at that!

by ratbite on Feb 10, 2012 1:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Welcome back!

Good to hear your heading to a game soon!

At least now you know, that website will cause you headaches that you dont want, my suggestion is stay away, far far away!

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 10, 2012 8:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Move aside Gomez

For it is Blackhawks Game Day!! Friday February 10

Go Hawks!!

Hey! I take penumbrage at that!

by ratbite on Feb 10, 2012 12:56 AM CST reply actions  

wearily raises thumb

"It could be worse: there could be blood squirtin' out of your nose"
"And that's 'Perfessr Mrs. Montador' to you...

by mightymike D on Feb 10, 2012 6:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I am nervously excited, happily afraid

I just dont know what to feel..

I like my Sausage, mmmmm Sausage! What did you think I was talking about.
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."

by Jrs23 on Feb 10, 2012 8:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I am still looking for the return of Hayes

….the defense on this team has dropped off since he was sent down………….yep

Ver™

by ccm on Feb 10, 2012 7:07 AM CST reply actions  

uhhhhh....

"Orange Mocha Frappuccino!"

by justforkicks on Feb 10, 2012 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Her hair of floating sky is shimmering, glimmering In the sun

But where is she?

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Feb 10, 2012 9:46 AM CST reply actions  

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